will byers supremacy; mike wheeler stan first, person second
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They're sharing clothes what if THAT prompts some of the bullying
#'...you know we wear matching watches right? are you willing to bet your life that we didnt just buy matching shoes?'#the bully is like uhhh and just walks away#and dustin is like 'those are will's shoes tho right?'#and mike is like 'yeah duh why would we buy matching shoes we would never be able to tell them apart'#not that i think intentionally matching wouldnt be bullyable just that it rlly throws him off bc he was ready to call them bfs for sharing#and kids who have known them forever were DEF jealous over those matching watches when they first got them lbr#'why doesnt anyone want matching watches with me 😫'
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VERY old beef, the peter Gabriel version of the David bowie song heroes would NEVER be played during a romantic moment because it's an intentionally depressing version of a happy song alluding to a happy ending of a depressing situation. Mike sees Will's body be pulled out of a lake and the song starts alluding to him being alive, why would they say they can be heroes for one day? They lost. They can't be heroes bc hes dead. But he's not. They play it when moving out of the Byers house right after they "put hopper to rest" . They can't be heroes bc hes dead. Bc Mike is losing his best friend forever right after figuring out he's qu- but he's alive. But they're reunited. It's a depressing sheet laying over the happy ending. If you want them playing heroes and actually kissing when they swore it would fall. It NEEDS to be David Bowie, their happy ending. Everyone's.
#stranger things#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#byeler#im sorry this just drives me nuts jdbzbs#ALSO will is a fan of david bowie 😭 why would they ever bring a cover of ANY bowie song when you could have BOWIE??#its a beautiful cover. and it fit those situations. but it doesnt fit the situation y'all want it to unless you really ONLY want them to be#heroes for ONE day#also listen to david bowies version right now WITH HEADPHONES and tell me to my face thats not an end song in stranger things#i literally dare you and if you can find it in your heart to say 'no it cant be that version it has to be the one they played twice already'#then alright ✋️ i tip my hat and we part as lost lovers
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this is so unbelievably stupid
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Still obsessed with Mike learning about the painting but not immediately telling Will he knows so they have at least one interaction where Mike knows but Will doesn't know he knows and so Will is totally normal but Mike is maybe looking at him/watching him a little differently but he doesn't notice which just puts even more viewer emphasis on Mike dealing with it (bonus points if he knows Will had feelings for him then but doesn't know if he still does)
Thanks for asking
#also what if they dont necessarily let the audience know will still has feelings either#like obviously he still loves him but theres so much plausible deniability that ppl can be like wait DOES HE REALLY NOT LIKE HIM ANYMORE??#like were in wills pov for his supernatural storyline and in mikes for His queer storyline so were back to seeing mike pining and not will#which is confusing for ppl just taking in what they see#most people with brains will know he didnt lose feelings tho jsbsbbd
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The REAL elephant in the room is the fact that I'm a Steve/Kali truther djdbdbdb
#its ridiculous theres no proof whatsoever. but i just am i really am#i personally cant believe in my heart that they wont bring her back for s5 bc it would genuinely be a waste narratively#and steve befriends more and more weirdos each season trying to break down the king steve mindset and being w ppl who make him happy-#instead of hanging around people who make him look cool. i think atp. after both eddie and robin. he needs to be the one to befriend her#bc he WANTS to (even though shes a weirdo). he was reluctant to hang around them both at first and him intentionally trying to bring down#kali's walls would show character development (and kali wouldnt like him at first. thats just a fact i mean its obvious kdbdbd)#idk obviously im not expecting this to happen but no part of me would be surprised if it did#id be screaming tho fs#i also just love being right thats actually why im posting this just so i can say i called it if it does happen xkzjbxx#stranger things#steve harrington#kali stranger things#kali prasad
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Something something S4 shows through Nancy how someone can be pressured into a relationship by well meaning people, how easy it is to project your significant other onto someone familiar when they're gone, something something Nancy only started giving Steve eyes during situations he reminded her of key moments in her relationship with Jonathan, how you could see all over her face that she was going to reject him, how the audiences emotions are lined up with Steve and not her and the fact that Steve wants a girlfriend so badly means the audience wants him to have a girlfriend too bc he deserves it ! He's grown so he can do better this time ! She CAN love him ! Look ! The people who just officially met them this week think they're true love ! But Nancy is in love with Jonathan. But Steve wants a white picket fence life at the end of a cul-de-sac with 6 children, which Nancy said herself is like her worst nightmare. But Steve was never the problem in their relationship. Nancy didn't love him. Nancy is not a prize. He doesn't deserve her for changing. And the people trying to matchmake them DO NOT KNOW BOTH PARTIES WELL. Robin JUST officially started talking to Nancy, all she really has to go off of is whatever Steve has told her and EDDIE met BOTH OF THEM officially like three days ago. All he knows is their reputations really, and that "act of true love" was entirely typical of Nancy's character and she would've done it for just about anyone she cares about, he doesn't know that though because he doesn't know her. And she ended the season in her bf's arms setting up their conflict in s5 while Steve ended the season alone but with his friends.
#ok draft go off#im actually reluctant to post this just bc now I'll only have 68 drafts#this post is about byler. plot twist !#i fear i have no more words. this doesnt usually happen to me#i am SO tired tho so cut me some slack i swear the next time i randomly post smthn the tags will go crazy 🤞 campers honor#stranger things#byler#jancy#nancy wheeler#jonathan byers#steve harrington#will byers#mike wheeler#✋️🙄 pls#ok its the next day and i can think again. this post is abt byler. djbsbd#in the sense that mike was pressured into a relationship by well meaning people who thought they liked each other-#and el was so similar to will that it was easy to project him onto her and when he thought she was gone his relationship w will developed#and when SHE came back he started to recreate what he had with will with her to make it easier to be w her in general#and as she is becoming her own person with her own wants and needs- their relationship suffers for it#also 'you could see it all over their faces' ily speech and he ended the season with will setting up their plot in s5#and el ended it alone (with her family)
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I don't want to be mean but you all sound batshit when you try to convince milkvans byler is real by talking about pure subtext and color theory and "Mike was checking Will out in this scene!!!" there's CLEAR plausible deniability in your own interpretation of someone's acting. The duffers intentionally kept it all vague enough that most people wouldn't figure it out until they get the chance to shove it into people's faces and if the majority of people look at the scene you're analyzing and go "aww they're finally friends again yay" and you go "Mike was blatantly checking wills ass out in the beginning" when...he was taking a breath to settle and prepare to reconcile with someone he's been "off" with for a year... you end up sounding a little insane. Those types of takes are subjective, and you can make a funny video with zooms implying that that's what he was doing but actively trying to convince someone your headcannon is canon will almost always make you sound deranged.
There's a reason you don't go up to milkvans and go "b-but blue meets yellow in the west" and start talking about the intricacies of making film and how everything is on purpose, that stuff isn't for normies. Analysts love that shit but to someone who just watches the show for fun they hear you say all that and go "you're reaching" because you took someone who is at a zero and shoved them into a thousand without showing them why you ACTUALLY ship byler and just tried to prove that it's real
#also milkvans arent even at zero theyre at -100 bc they actively ship mike with someone else#so trying to prove to someone who already doesnt like byler that its happening because of a couple colors? bc finn wolfhard fidgets a lot?#its not getting you anywhere.#if you actually want to try to make someone a byler i would start with a comp of all their scenes tg and then a comp of mike/el#as a start#anyway i really am not trying to be mean soldiers i just know ive talked to normies and they just brush off what u say if it doesnt#make sense to them immediately.#🙏 dont hate me i am an observer#byler#stranger things#will byers#mike wheeler#byeler#i once went 'i think mike is gay' after s3 during theory talk w my brother and he didnt even hear me out#he went “mmm as a straight man i dont agree.' and immediately dropped it#if it doesnt make sense immediately they wont listen to you.
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henry in st 5 when he tries to communicate smth to the hive mind but will can literally hear everything
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someone made a byler edit to good luck, babe by chappell roan so i’m bringing it from tiktok because everybody and their mother has to watch it.
lives were fucking changed oh my god
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“i love you on your bad days” you don’t. you don’t though
#truly itd be easier to compare his tempermant with her to his temperment w lucas and dustin#like when theyre annoying theyre annoying. not will tho. wonder why that would be 🤔#the only reason mike was picking a fight in the rollerrink is bc HE was also having a bad day & will didnt seem to notice the way mike does#like its his first day visiting and will is ignoring him to mope about some stupid crush he wont even TELL him about#not entertaining him at ALL almost looking through him like he isnt even there. of course hes mad#and even then. immediate apology after he thought about the situation for a second#he TRIES to understand will and his feelings and he cares so much he wants to help#he CANT understand El's actions towards angela even tho she did something extremely similar FOR MIKE once. And he doesnt really try either.#he just doesnt understand. explain it to him please. why cant you just explain it to him?#you know he gets bullied too? its not the same. i dont understand.#thats the thing. he DOES understand her. he just CANNOT imagine that she would EVER feel the way he does. shes a superhero. he's...mike.#“i DONT belong” “thats just bc ur so awesome and special. not like me.”#and he cant take her off that pedestal until they're not dating anymore and he can look at her the way he looks at his other friends#dustin is a superhero too. like mr fantastic. hes awesome too. believing in dustin isnt a problem tho. just el. wonder why.#dustin doesnt have collarbones. that does Not define him. but el's superpowers...they do. shes a superhero. shes his superhero girlfriend.#he can never live up to her expectations. (his own expectations he projected onto her)#n e ways
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Mike in his room, Mike at the school, Mike with the bullies, Mike with Dustin, Mike with the party, Mike in the field with El. Mike, Mike, Mike. Mike main character doubters will look very foolish after Stranger Things 5.
And everybody knows about the secret first two days of Byler filming that we will not get any pics from until after the season is out.
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There's something in Finn wolfhard being a breakout star in s1 and humongous names like Steven Spielberg saying that the kids changed the limitations of child acting bc they're so good. And then suddenly Finn wolfhard after S4 being known generally as the worst one, as the guy who can't act, just "not as good" as everyone else. Because of the monologue. The monologue the writers praised and hyped up as his best work, as something they didn't know if he could do bc he hadn't ever done it before, generally something they were really proud of.
So, if his supposed "best work" is something that people come away from feeling like it's his worst? That means there's a disconnect in the way the writers are looking at the scene vs the way the general audience sees it, which is funny bc if we look at that scene at face value, he's confessing his love. So if theres something deeper about the scene that changes the meaning, that changes that scene from bad acting to great acting, from a love confession to...
#byler#especially bc his s2 shed scene monologue is basically the exact same concept if you look at them at face value.#he HAS done an emotional speech before. why would they be unsure if he could do it again?#this has been in my drafts 4fuckingever so im letting it breach containment omg everyone look out its an old take !!!#stranger things#mike wheeler#finn wolfhard
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MIKE WHEELER + A MEDITATION ON BOUNDARIES
"Back when I thought I was straight I would go on dates with boys. The boys would usually want to kiss me. I disliked kissing, but I thought that their preferences deserved to count as much as mine, and I reasoned that they probably liked kissing more than I disliked kissing. So kissing was a morally good thing to do. I also reasoned that if I told them I disliked the kissing then they’d feel guilty and enjoy it less. So I did not tell them. I am certain I was making some kind of critical error but it has taken me a long time to figure out what it might be." (x)
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"did mike see it? then it doesn't count"
will tells mike about the seven. the demogorgon gets him
will tells mike about vecna/henry/one being alive. the ominous end of season sequence on the hill begins
i know mike hates not knowing things but STOP TELLING HIM THINGS
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el has known that mike is the source from the beginning and she still chooses to protect him at every turn. haters can try to make their friendship unimportant but they will never succeed
#that other persons tags abt how el talked to MAX about how mike sensed her in the upside down but not him#he doesnt even seem aware of it#vs el also knowing how people with powers are treated and doesnt want her friend under fire like that#it truly would be so frustrating to be mike oh my god#void*#i didnt mean the upside down whoops dkxnbd
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S2 shed scene -- Will/Vecna POV -- part 1 of 2.
[I bit off more than I could chew with this piece, so I had to split it up to get something done in time for @bylerween2023. Maybe if we're lucky I'll have part 2 done in time for bylerween2024. :p]
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