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"I hope that's what El's doing. Coming into her own."

El's Blossoming Independence (x) + Stranger Writer's Van Scene Script

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im tired of acting like this wasn’t her best outfit in the whole show idc

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Just Hopper and his kids<3

Best dad award goes to Jim Hopper

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people really see this poor sweet girl suffer every season and think her death would be in any way satisfying to her character arc

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I was rewatching s2 and I can’t believe it’s taken me this long to realise Jonathan and Will both lied to Nancy and Mike to save their relationships (with Steve and El.)

This scene opens with Nancy saying “Steve asked you to take me home?” (After the party) which I hadn’t noticed before but obviously Jonathan lied.

And here Will claims that El ASKED him to paint the dnd painting for Mike- again, a lie to save a relationship that Will and Jonathan both believed best for Nancy and Mike.

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I seriously think people need to understand the difference between Will being possessed and Will having True Sight.

In s2, Will's ability to see into the Upside Down is described as True Sight before he gets possessed by the Mind Flayer.

This conversation happens right before Dart escapes, before Will gets possessed on the field.

Part of this True Sight ends up being Will's ability to sense the Mind Flayer — again, something he is able to do before getting possessed on the field,

as well as something he is able to do when he is not possessed.

This is especially notable because he is the only person who has been possessed who had True Sight before ever being possessed, and is also seemingly the only person to experience it at all. Even when Billy is possessed, what seems to be a True Sight experience is actually more aligned to a Vecna Vision than Billy actually being able to see into the Upside Down, or perhaps a mixture of both.

Notably, during this scene (cold open of 3x02), we hear a clock chiming, lending more credence toward this being a Vecna Vision.

Even if this is a mixture of a Vecna Vision and True Sight, it still means that Billy was unable to experience True Sight until after he was possessed, unlike Will.

"Maybe Will has been possessed this entire time, ever since he was rescued from the Upside Down!" Incredibly unlikely, especially considering he had the Mind Flayer literally burned out of him in season 2. Also, why would they show us the whole ordeal of him getting possessed in s2 if he had actually secretly been possessed the entire time?

"Maybe Will was actually experiencing a Vecna Vision instead of True Sight in season 2!" This defies the physical logic established in the show. In order for the Mind Flayer to possess someone, we see that its particles need to physically enter the person. That is why even when the gate is opened in season 3, Billy still has to physically bring people to the Flayed Spider to get possessed.

This means that when Will experiences True Sight, he is phasing between both the Rightside Up and the Upside Down at the same time.

They even specifically have Dustin and Mike talk about True Sight and whether the Mind Flayer can hurt Will when he's in True Sight, and Mike shows doubt as to whether they can apply D&D logic to this.

And Mike's right to doubt, because this convo happens after we witness the Mind Flayer possess Will. We know that Dustin is wrong, and that the shadow can hurt Will. When Will is in True Sight, a being that is in the Upside Down can interact with Will, and likely vice versa.

Another point toward Will's True Sight not being a Vecna Vision is that on Halloween, when Will experiences True Sight, he hears the baby demoslugs, which helps them determine that Dart is from the Upside Down. Why would Vecna show him that? It's not necessary.

My last piece of evidence against it being a Vecna Vision is that when a person experiences a Vecna Vision, they're frozen in place, even when they move in their visions.

However, when Will experiences True Sight, when he moves in the Upside Down, he moves in the Rightside Up.

It's more likely that Will's extended time in the Upside Down, along with him dying in the Upside Down, either awakened latent abilities or germinated within him a psychic connection to the Upside Down that he is able to access without being possessed.

Fundamentally, what this means that for s5 is:

Will does not have to be possessed in order for him to have True Sight.

And since when Will is experiencing True Sight, he is seeing into the Upside Down,

Will can still be a Super Spy in season 5 by using his True Sight to see into the Upside Down, even if he isn't seeing via the Hive Mind.

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still rooting for the end of this trilogy: will saying to mike, "just hold on a little longer" while holding his hand

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What if, instead of Will sleeping with Mike in his room, they both sleep in the basement, like sleepover's. even though Mike can sleep in his room normally, he chooses to be next to Will. And everyone they talk about something while laying together, looking at the ceiling like there's something special there.

And when they go to sleep, Mike says good night with the same damn smile he makes at Will in the van scene

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People don't want to hear it but he was 100% correct here

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“byler isn’t gonna happen byler isn’t gonna happen” well here’s a quote from ross duffer’s wife, leigh janiak, about making the fear street trilogy into a queer love story.

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Did anyone else realize Mike is gay (or just a man liker depending on your headcanon, I think he’s gay) before Will? Like, when Will was confirmed gay, I was honestly more surprised than if Mike would’ve been. Will’s such a quiet, hidden character, I couldn’t really tell if he was just being stereotyped or if he was actually queer. Mike on the other hand? Since season one he was SCREAMING homosexuality to me. Idk, as a straight person maybe I’m not as observant? Lmk what yall think!

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Never forget this was mike wheelers reaction to will byers asking what about us?

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i’m already a firm believer in the theory that el somewhat knows mike and will have some weird shit going on but imagine if mike didn’t let his internalized homophobia get the best of him and hugged will and the airport. will probably would’ve given him the painting at some point that day and el would’ve been standing there like 🧍‍♀️

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if byler isn't endgame then why did they write mike as giving up dnd for his relationship with el? the duffers are major dnd nerds, if that was supposed to be a good thing that would be blasphemous. that would be like a book lover tearing out a whole page or an artist snapping their pencils or a gamer scratching their monitor or like putting pineapple on pizza...anyway there's no way in hell they would do that

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Thinking about the theoretical NYU acceptance letter Joyce was waiting for

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MOM AND DAD OF HAWKINS GONNA FUCK SHIT UP!!!!

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One thing I wanna see just as mush as Will with a gun? Is Lucas with a gun. He’s the party’s ranger. Even if it’s for a moment- because he’s mostly gonna be with max probably- I need to see it.