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whcrror · 7 months ago

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no wonder. anarchy is also the one who encouraged the untrue rhetoric of cartaxus being a racist, and was a known associate of djaq. It seems their behavior is very, very similar to one another, seeing as this is the sort of behavior Djaq engaged in with blogs like horrorempathy and nova / her close associates. I would not be surprised if anarchy was also perpetuating the same behavior with Djaq as well, leaving during her downfall when convenient.

this stalking seems to be a recurring behavior with people in these circles.

Anarchy made this post:

we're not entirely surprised and we stand by you. I agree this is manipulative behavior, and everyone should be aware.

here anarchy is pushing the stalking allegations onto nova when i think it's been sufficiently proven that nova was trying to keep herself safe from years of harassment ANARCHY KNEW ABOUT, as Djaq had been stalking her and publicly shouting about her to whoever would listen for years.

This is clearly all a game for Anarchy. I appreciate you for coming out with this, and I hope this corroborates your claims.

this post is addressing stalking, enablement, potential endangerment as well as petty grudges held against me seemingly since i was a child & late teen within the rpc. regarding users @/nezemny ( zirka ) and @/pseudolife ( anarchy. ) both individuals mentioned in this post are older than me and it's extremely important to point out i've never spoken to them ( save for one, recently ), i've never crossed paths with them / interacted with them and didn't know of them until the end of last year. they know of their behaviour, and think they've done nothing wrong / that nothing in this post is problematic and that it's me who has misinterpreted. so i guess we'll see.

due to blocking preventing me from reaching out to zirka, reached out to anarchy in the early hours on the 10th to address this issue privately prior to this. prior to may 2024, i'd never spoken to anarchy. i can't say for sure whether anarchy did tell zirka i had extended a branch to him to communicate this privately, or whether he was just unwilling to. either way, as you will see i explicitly told anarchy i hoped she'd pass the information on to zirka. i'm not about to list all of their blogs, they're all more than accessible / available.

i do not condone harm or hate towards these individuals. i don't tolerate bullying, stalking, or harassment. don't be pathetic. if you do this, you aren't welcome around me. that being said, i fully understand the risks that come with callouts. since these two gladly stood by and said nothing when one or more individuals showed a disturbing interest in me and my friend, i don't have sympathy for them.

what is this post addressing? anarchy / pseudolife personally admitting that i have been stalked by potentially more than one individual for 7 months, if not longer, and that said stalker(s) have been reporting to zirka / nezemny about me numerous times within this frame of time ( specifically re: blog movements. ) anarchy admitting that not only did she know about this, but that she was complicit. i also know this, because she's blocked blogs that were highly private, too. anarchy speaking on zirka's behalf, despite saying she can't, to admit that zirka had been indulging, enabling and encouraging ( by not outright discouraging ) this / these stalker(s).

over a 7 month period, 4 new blogs of mine have been reported to nezemny to be blocked. i have no doubt it'd be 5, had i not used an old blog he already had blocked for a new muse. all 4 of these, at the time of said blocking, were highly private and only locatable through my blogs that nezemny had blocked, friends that nezemny had blocked, or mutuals that weren't mutuals of his. together, they enabled and encouraged a stalker(s) to watch my blogs and the blogs of my friend over a 7 month period, benefitting off of the obsessive and unhealthy behaviour, by not moving on, not telling them to stop, never once approaching or warning me that someone was paying excessive attention to me or said friend, and instead indulged them by actively blocking the urls fed to them.

when did this start? october - november of 2023. why? in oct, i approached a now-former mutual re: a graphic rework that looked like it'd been lifted from or inspired by my own. it was handled, the graphics were taken down, we moved on.

how are zirka and anarchy involved? mutuals / friends of the aforementioned former mutual. they were told about it, with anarchy even admitting to me she was the one to tell this individual to block me - which led to a large portion of the confrontation that took place prior to the resolution. a confrontation she is still holding against me, despite causing it. then, what initially started off with a mix of concerning behaviours became my friend and i noticing a series of blockings that couldn't be explained. at this point, i should specify that anarchy started to seemingly move on. she blocked the majority of my blogs and left me alone, but she will come up again.

blockings? nezemny had gone through my entire blog roll and blocked every single one, even the inactive ones. these were accessible through my rules page, for mutuals. through blocking him on my blogs, i noticed this. shortly after, i went onto an inactive blog - debating to shut it down, and out of curiosity looked to see if nezemny had blocked me. he had, and i thought this was bizarre given i hadn't touched this blog in maybe half a year if not more. i had joked to my friend who he'd blocked for associating with me, not realising the severity at the time, whether their inactive blogs were also blocked - which would've been more difficult to locate. they were. nezemny, who neither of us had ever spoken to nor interacted with, went this far to keep me and my friend 'out of his space.'

a series of odd behaviours followed as previously mentioned. i won't be going into detail about these here to keep it as brief as i can, but have evidence if needed. these behaviours quickly escalated into suspected stalking. note: i use stalking because it was repeated, obsessive ( 7 months ) and unwanted. i believed nezemny was stalking me because, on top of the behaviours ( that implied he'd been viewing my main blog despite having me blocked and vice versa ), any new blog i subtly promoted on my main blog was blocked by him within a matter of days if not hours. this, to my knowledge so far, adds up to four blogs. blogs that should've been largely inaccessible to him.

i couldn't wrap my head around how he'd located my new blog and blocked it, despite the blog being brand new. to the point where even my closest friend hadn't seen it yet. below is a convo with said friend, pointing it out. i am "ninja" in all of these. anything blacked out is to protect identity or because it's unrelated / irrelevant to this.

the second blog, which was really crossing a line, was a non-rp blog related to mental health education and support. was that of any threat? since anarchy herself had stressed this was all because of "safety" precautions. it's a platform i'd been hoping to push off of to pursue a future career, and now i know i'm being watched there / someone who wants to cause me trouble knows of it, i'm having to reconsider. this was promoted to a resource blog i have, which nezemny was blocked on, and by a close friend who was blocked by him and vice versa, and by a mutual who i believe wasn't mutuals with him ( i can't confirm this. ) a handful of others did, however, reblog this - and i'm not able to tell whether nezemny found it through them.

i was in a predicament. i believed he was stalking me, with three ( the third below ) blogs quite difficult to find being blocked, and meaning my main blog would be having to be regularly checked if not watched like a hawk to obtain them, but i couldn't 100% prove it. below is me telling my friend this.

the third blog was a private multimuse i'd made in september 2023. this is when it really started to dawn on me something wasn't right. it survived 4 months without being blocked, largely because it was extremely private, unpromoted and there's a big gap in activity between september and february. conveniently, the moment i post it on my main blog, it gets blocked by nezemny. he'd also made a point of blocking close associates, which only added to my concern they were also being watched. it's since been specified by anarchy that this was done to block anyone who associated with me.

i felt frustrated and unable to do anything, having already moved blogs once, changed urls, completely removed myself from the rpc they both shared with me, removed my blog from being accessible via search until recently, blocking left right and centre in hopes of keeping him away, have had anon turned off on all blogs since the beginning so thankfully no outright harassment, kept my head down and generally did all the things tumblr tells you to do re: "block and ignore." without concrete proof, i decided to give up and try and forget about them. i anticipated being told to just ignore if i went to tumblr about it to any degree. below is proof i was feeling disheartened and stressed and that i was going to focus on ignoring.

i also have an interaction where a mutual inquired about the problem and i can be seen discouraging talking about it further.

since late february, i've kept my head down and tried to ignore them. i discouraged people coming to me with information. i tried to move on. then, in the middle of last month ( april ), my friend messaged me.

my friend had, without any announcement, moved blogs and changed url. no promoting, completely private. only i and a handful of their mutuals knew / found out through them following us. so explain how nezemny, who already had their old blog blocked and vice versa, located their new blog so quickly? in less than a week. i'll tell you. so because my friend had both nezemny and pseudolife blocked on their new blog first, any sifting through notes on the old blog for mutuals, to then sift through their notes for this new url - or sifting through my own notes, would've drawn a blank as they'd have shown as a ghost note. meaning - either they circumvented the block themselves, which would take a lot of effort, or someone else had done it for them and reported it back. which opened up the possibility of someone unknown being involved. still, it wasn't enough. someone had clearly gone to bizarre lengths to locate this private url, and there was nothing i could do. until now.

this month, may 2024, on the 9th in fact so very recent, i set up a new blog for a new muse. this blog was solely promoted initially as me posting on my main blog the word "peep" with a link to it. then, some hours later, a "find my x muse here" with a link. very subtle, very low-key. within 24 hours, nezemny had blocked this new blog. i fully believed i finally had proof. i should add that, because apparently pseudolife finds this confusing, i was checking because i really wanted to catch him out - and i knew that him blocking a new, very private blog meant he or someone connected to him had to be watching my blogs, and regularly. between believing i was being stalked and the initial behaviours ( copying, mimicking, vagueing ), i had been checking on other blogs for the same result. i consider this a valid reason. with this, and my friend's highly private blog being located, i couldn't let it go on.

after seven months of gaslighting myself and doubting, feeling extremely paranoid, struggling with my mental health over this ( i have c-ptsd relating to an incident that involved stalking and obsessive behaviour ), feeling unsafe and uncomfortable, having concerns for my friends, worrying about whether i'd be able to do anything with my non-rp blog now i knew someone with bad intentions was stalking it.... i finally had something to approach about. i reached out to anarchy / pseudolife, nezemny's close friend. i'd initially blocked her on my new blog, but upon noticing she had yet to block me there, i took the opportunity.

i'll include sections of what was said. it's important to notice her wording, the manipulation, the blatant gaslighting or most tremendous case of denial - i can't decide, and the nonchalant attitude she has towards accusations of stalking.

before i do - what did i learn from speaking to anarchy? she told me that nezemny hadn't been stalking me, but rather that he was being approached by some mysterious individual(s) ( as she'd implied there are more than one, with different intentions ) who were reporting my movements back to him. every time i made a new blog, this / these individual(s) saw and reported back. now, anarchy made it clear that at no point, despite them apparently wanting this all to be over, did nezemny outright ask or tell this individual(s) to stop. to stop bringing me to him, to leave well enough alone, to move on.

he did not try to discourage them, and in fact, took the urls given to him and blocked them. i, in turn, feeling paranoid and watched, would react, at one point even pleading to be left alone on my blog hoping they'd see and do exactly that. i support curating your space, and removing yourself from harmful individuals / circles - but save for one blog ( when i didn't realise the severity ), i've always been the one to block him first. this is two lots of proof.

i have never been a risk or threat to him, i have never interacted with him or given him reason to think i'd potentially cross into his space. we don't share mutuals, and i've left my entire rpc behind to create space between us. as aforementioned, i moved blogs, changed urls. and yet, nezemny just can't stop thinking i'm a threat to him.

realistically, had he made a point of avoiding me outside of blocking, and not blocked blogs he had no possible way of knowing about save for by stalking me or my friends, none of this would've happened. instead, for his own "curation of space", he opted to enable, condone, encourage and not actively discourage one or more stalkers - if he and anarchy aren't directly responsible themselves. anarchy admitted to me that she has stood by and watched nezemny enable this / these stalker(s) for seven months. again, she too had some of these blogs blocked despite me having her blocked. and we all should know by now with stalkers, it never stops at something so small. this is a small case, and i don't appear to be in direct danger currently, but i don't think i need to stress that if this did get worse and started to impact me outside of tumblr or online generally, it would one hundred percent be a crime.

now for the conversation. anarchy starts off strong, stating she can't really speak for zirka, or on his behalf. and then proceeds to do exactly that, even going as far as to put all responsibility on him later on. sorry zirka, i have to take her word at face value since you couldn't or wouldn't communicate with me yourself. she also deflects from the get go, asking why my friends and / or mutuals are uncomfortable ( re: him suspected of stalking them also ) instead of addressing why i am, and suggests it's weird these people have come to me to inform me of their concerns... when i was actively building evidence on him at the time. because i believed he was stalking me and rp friends.... i clearly state i don't expect her to speak for him, and that i'm reaching out because i can't connect with nezemny due to the blocks. i had anticipated her to create a group, or pass the message on so we could unblock and communicate. nezemny has remained silent this entire time, i should add; i still have not been able to speak to him myself.

she goes on to refer to me accusing her and her friend of stalking as a "good ol' chat." and if you read the chat below, you will see that she effectively says "my friend hasn't been stalking you, i don't know where you got that from despite him mysteriously gaining access to and blocking four of your private blogs that he only could've located through stalking your blog as well as the same with one of your friend's blogs. but also, you're absolutely right for being concerned because it turns out - there are people who "love a good drama saga" who have been obsessively watching you and your friends for 7 months, reporting your movements back. but also... i don't get why that's a problem for you? so long as nezemny is safe, what's the issue?"

this is literally anarchy admitting to not only knowing about this all along, but that nezemny enabled stalkers to stalk me, by not outright discouraging it or even informing me people were trying to stir shit up and cause trouble for me. maybe i'm wrong and it's just me, but even if i didn't like someone or had issues with them - i'd let them know if someone was paying excessive attention to them. but then again, anarchy and nezemny ( since she's speaking on his behalf as you can see ), don't see this as stalking so they likely wouldn't have even thought about anyone but themselves.

anarchy goes on to express that she's "not entirely too sure how that's problematic," and that she doesn't even know how i came to the conclusion of stalking in the first place. while admitting she's known the whole time of someone or multiple people, who she continues to conceal the identities of, going to nezemny to report on my movements. in fact, as you'll see above, she refers to it as "drama." i believe in blocking who you need to, to create a curated space for yourself. but as aforementioned, i always block nezemny first, save for the first blog as i didn't know he could be an issue at the time, and the mental health blog because... it's a fucking personal / non-rp blog.

but it means there's no chance i would've crossed into his inner circle / space on tumblr anyway. him blocking me is ineffective, when i already have him blocked, which is why in my opinion the "curating his space" is bullshit. he has also never spoken to me, interacted with me or crossed paths with me... or so i thought.

cryptically, anarchy goes on to imply both she and zirka know me from other fandoms - even going as far as to name fandoms i've been in when i couldn't even tell you the muses currently on anarchy's muse list. take note of what she'd said in the chat above, re: people coming to yammer at those who have had an issue with you in the past. suggesting nezemny has, despite me having never spoken to him and never had an issue with him prior to the end of last year. we have no "past."

she's confused why i was checking to see if the person i believed to be stalking me had blocked me on a blog that would've enabled me to show irrefutable proof that, at the very least, someone was watching me. alludes to some sort of former beef between us, or with someone i used to associate with, back when i was between 14-16 years old and late teens, and that regardless of what'd happened with their friend from the beginning ( style-lifting ), they would've blocked me anyway regarding some really ancient, 6-10 year old beef i never knew of, because i have literally no clue who these people are.

this tells me nothing other than they are clearly petty enough to be doing the stalking themselves, if it isn't someone unknown. i can't fathom how this helps their case against me accusing them of stalking, by confessing to having a long-winded beef against me, who has no clue who they are save for the issues they've caused me in the last 7 months.

i've been stalked before, more than once, and suffered the consequences of obsessional behaviour. i know the signs. i know it can go from 0 to 100, and i know people tend to keep their heads down / ignore it or remain in denial until something genuinely life-altering happens. if you're reading this like 'what's the big deal? they're not doing any harm / are only giving your urls to someone who doesn't want to see you around?' remember that whoever has been watching me has been doing it for seven months now, after the initial problem was solved within a week, two at most.

how much longer am i expected to deal with being stalked? am i supposed to just hope it won't become a bigger problem for me? how much longer do nezemny and pseudolife intend to enable and encourage this behaviour?

this next part is integral to this post. anarchy has stated that she'd "love for this to be over." another confession that there was something to begin with. she has "so many other things on her plate." which is wild, given this has taken no time from her until just the other day when i reached out. i've never been a problem for either of them, never caused them any grief. at the most, i've requested mutuals not to follow me whilst following them. anarchy is acting like she's been troubled by any of this, which is ironic, given she'd initially referred to this heated conversation and accusations as "a good ol' chat." not to mention her saying the situation has gotten "a little crazy." understatement of the bloody century.

read this below and tell me the bottom section doesn't essentially read like a cease and desist.

it might as well say: remove all signs of us from your blog, don't ever talk about it again, you did this to yourself because you dared to call someone out for lifting from your graphic style and it made you look bad, other people have suffered from all of this too not just you, oh and also, don't listen to any of your friends or mutuals anymore - keep them out of the loop and isolate yourself.

briefly re: the blocking part. brief, as i don't have proof, save for a portion of the rpc i was in blocking me out of the blue, all of which are good mutuals with them both. i had concerns they'd spread negativity about me. anarchy herself had vagued me previously saying she'd like to "murder someone's entire career." aka me: i know because this was in the tags of her reblog of the re-designed promo of the one who'd lifted my style. other friends of theirs had commented similar things, implying that individual had gone to them about it - which anarchy confirms by saying she told them to block me herself. again, i have no proof, i'm just covering what it says in her message. the most recent case of this was no more than 2 weeks ago when the confrontation she refers to happened at the end of last year, and most of these individuals have no connection to the former mutual i'd had an issue with.

how have i had to explain to someone why enabling and encouraging someone ( if it wasn't one or both of them in the first place ) to obsessively watch my movements and report on them over a 7 month period is a problem. anarchy's own response to this was "i see you, i feel you, no one likes to get stalked." so she's gone from not understanding how i arrived at stalking to agreeing it's stalking? not to mention it being nonchalant and insensitive given she stood and watched it all happen. they've both had every chance to reach out to me, to friends of mine. to outright tell this / these individual(s) to stop, move on, leave well enough alone. they never had to vague me, draw attention to themselves or make me suspicious of them. they've had every chance to not indulge this / these stalker(s).

the ball has been in their court since the fucking start. they want it over? they had every opportunity. now anarchy isn't responding to me, because i caught her in their web of lies. we're not going to talk about how "truce" means 'an agreement between enemies or opponents to stop fighting or arguing for a certain time.' suggesting either one or both view me as an enemy or opponent when i don't know them.

i might not be able to undo what happened, and what i've dealt with for the past 7 months of being here - thinking i and my friends are being stalked, which has been immensely triggering for me. but i can certainly inform people that nezemny ( zirka ) and pseudolife ( anarchy ) have been indulging, enabling and encouraging one or more individuals to stalk me and my friends for 7 months as of may 2024. be careful of them, because it appears they surround themselves with those who "love drama" and enjoy "shit stirring" and indulge them. rp is my safe space, or at least it used to be. but that's okay, as long as nezemny is safe and happy.

i have no way of knowing how much this could've / still could escalate from passing my url around. i don't know if it's solely my url that's being passed around. i know that they are both in the possession of my friend's ip address through the use of hidden statcounters, who solely was looking out for me during periods of vagueing and copying, and i know it's made said friend cautious about speaking up because they believe these two to be capable of doxxing - given they're seemingly capable of holding a grudge for approx. a bloody decade.

i am fucking sick to death of having both my rp and now non-rp experience tampered with by people who have full control of stopping this shit in its tracks or at the very least, warning me about it. to the point where i've had to consider leaving tumblr altogether, which is unfair given writing is all i currently have to distract myself from my private life's challenges. this crossed a line when it involved my personal / non-rp blog and i wasn't warned someone was paying excessive attention to me, or was trying to cause a problem - that is if these two weren't responsible for it the entire time. given anarchy has failed to give me the urls of said stalkers, it only makes them look more suspicious.

to zirka and anarchy if you made it this far. the only way you can improve this situation is by giving me the urls of the stalkers. and if they were anonymous, that's your own fault for continuing to indulge them. especially considering you can block an ip. in anarchy's own words, if anyone comes to you with weird shit, tell them off or ignore it! including my url.

zirka, i have never been a threat to you and since day one have wanted fucking nothing to do with you. i've never been at risk of crossing into your space, and if anything you've continuously found a way to invade mine for over half a year now. what threat was my personal blog to you? or my private multimuse i only write with close partners on, associates you insisted on blocking and thus would never cross paths with? was leaving my rpc behind not enough? i don't know you, i don't know what petty grudge you have against me nor do i care. if you want to fix this, stop blocking blogs of mine that you have no way of knowing exist save for through stalking or it being reported to you.

stop indulging shit stirrers. you'll stop looking like a stalker, and in turn, the stalker(s) won't get what they want. it's a shame, because this could've been resolved privately. i don't know whether anarchy even told you we were talking, but your friend has well and truly thrown you under the bus, here. not that she needed to, you already looked suspicious as fuck. if you did know, then you've been speaking through her as a proxy which says a lot. either way, maybe this will get you to leave me, my friends and our blogs that have nothing to do with you nor will ever cross your path alone. how ironic that you went to all this effort for seven months for safety, only to make your own space unsafe. consider this me curating my space.

#whorrcr #djaq #callout #pseudolife #nezemny

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whcrror · 1 year ago

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TOPIC: ALLEGED TRANSPHOBIC BEHAVIOR. PART ONE

INTRO: This is the big topic we wanted to speak about, because it has hurt real people in the community, and while we will not be taking a direct stance ourselves on the nature of this behavior, we do want to warn people who may be hurt by this in the future. In the grand scheme of things, the response to such behavior on Djaq's part has not been quite satisfactory despite her being upfront about the issues she's gone through regarding this topic in the past. However we also have monitored the situation as it unfolded, and do not believe she's being 100% transparent about the entire thing.

PREFACE: we know there are people who would like to call these allegations ridiculous in defense of Djaq. These people claim that the individuals hurt by this ,or the people who find Djaq's behavior offensive are invalid. The main reason these allegations are being swept under the rug, are because 'being sex positive about trans muses is not fetishizing' which we agree with wholeheartedly. we'll continue below.

While we agree, being sex positive of trans and cis muses alike isn't fetishizing, that's not the issues being raised with Djaq anyway. However, again, we understand if trans or non-binary people DO NOT have an issue with Djaq's actions. However that DOES NOT and WILL NEVER diminish the feelings of those people who are trans or non binary, WHO HAVE BEEN HURT BY HER BEHAVIOR.

So before going on, we'd like to say that the issue here is not regarding the idea of 'Djaq being "not allowed" to smut with, smut against, or write smut for muses that are trans'. We do not believe that has anything to do with it.

We believe the issue raised initially was regarding putting too much emphasis on genitalia in general, when it is in relation to gender. Cisgender, or transgender muses alike. (There's also another issue we'll discuss when we review the post, having to do with mutation)

To be transparent as well, we'd like to tag @whorrcr, @nintcnhoe , @whorrcr-moved , and @thewhorrcrs despite our respecting her decision not to engage. That is not the point of this point.

Now that we have that out of the way..

THE BEGINNING / INITIAL ANONS/SITUATION REGARDING SOMEONE FINDING DJAQ'S BEHAVIOR OFFENSIVE: The issues raised had been so on a now deleted blog. The URL of this blog was chryscs/laetuus (same blog, the url was just changed), and it was deleted as a direct result of the situation we'll go on to detail. Unfortunately we do not have screenshots of the original posts, however while we do not expect anyone to take our word for it: we have seen the post that originated the initial complaint regarding her behavior.

What we do have are the screenshots of the catalyst to the blog: chryscs/laetuus, being deleted. These include anons Djaq was sent by a concerned party, who is non-binary, that had been hurt or otherwise exhausted by her behavior. This individual saw it as a genuine issue. We will include those below and talk about it.

First we'd like to say that it seems Djaq was, and is open to the criticism. We're not trying to say otherwise. We've kept the URL private whom sent the ask, however you can read the screenshots above regarding the issues raised by this individual.

FETISHIZATION: We would like to say that while we do not know whether or not this was the opinion shared by the individual who sent the ask, we can understand that the issue of fetishizing is likely more-so in relation to the amount of smut that is featured on Djaq's blog. Smut is at the forefront, self admittedly, of Djaq's blogs and always has been. The amount of smut featured these days (and for the tenure of the recent URL whorrcr) is more-less the entirety of it, which supports the fetishization claims. If smut is the only thing a character is being used for, it could be seen as fetishization. Especially when putting such a heavy emphasis on this.

Like we said, the issues raised above in the ask (while Djaq hasn't been transparent about everything) can be read and digested at your own leisure, and we do not wish to make a direct statement either way. Other than perhaps an attempt to explain the overall point that was trying to be made, we can trust you to formulate your own opinions. I'm not sure which of Djaq's friends or defenders have seen this due to it having appeared on a deleted blog.

DISCUSSING A POST MADE BY DJAQ REGARDING THE SITUATION: This post, which is the pinned post on Djaq's callout blog (thewhorrcrs), She addresses these allegations. This is because we've brought them up in our first post. We'd like to break down some of the things we find upsetting in this post.

This was directly referencing the ask. While we would argue the ask certainly wasn't taken well, that's for you to decide as well, as an adult individual ingesting this information. However, the post Djaq made about wanting to have equal amounts of ftm/mtf muses was taken poorly when in direct relation to her previous behavior, which began with this specific incident.

WHAT INCITED THIS ASK BEING SENT TO DJAQ: If we recall, the POSTS specifying genitalia that prompted the asks shown above, were either small bios or starter calls (made by Djaq). These bios specifically mention the specific genitalia of each muse. We'll speak more about the post she's referring on her 'old blog' later , or in a separate post -- as I do think this might warrant two parts. However I don't want to get too off-topic.

DELETED BLOG: Djaq mentions she wasn't sure if she deleted the blog chryscs/laetuus, but we find that hard to believe based on the two post that Djaq had made directly FOLLOWING the posting of the asks she received (again, shown above).

Here's the claim made on thewhorrcrs:

Here are the posts that came before the deletion of chryscs/laetuus:

DISCLAIMER/REMINDER: We would like to make sure that everything is addressed here, considering the seriousness of the allegations raised in all of these screenshots. We apologize if we bounce around a little in terms of topics, however we are trying to organize all of the information in relation to the screenshots. We appreciate your understanding.

POTENTIAL BI-PHOBIA/ERASURE AND HOMOPHOBIA: Now, let us go on. It is referenced in this post that even after making changes, she's been labelled as bi-phobic, homophobic, and a terf. We have some potential reasons of why that might be, other than the fact that as far as we are aware, two of the three people she's attacked in the past have been bisexual, or lesbian.

POTENTIAL BI-PHOBIA / CHANGING GAEA'S SEXUALITY: Djaq's main original character Gaea's sexuality has been notably changed on more than one occasion. Mostly from pansexual to heterosexual. We could see how this could be described as erasure. We do have evidence of this, we'll include it below (first two being same character sheet with different sexuality - first from glysimachia-blog, the second from herbtm):

The idea of 'sticking to what I (Djaq) know' has also been said in relation to her changing the sexuality, as well.

DEHUMANIZING TRANS PEOPLE: Now I'd like to specifically discuss the 'portraying trans muses through the lens of being mutants or unnatural'. (issue raised in ask). I'll allow Djaq to explain:

I'd like to bring up that Djaq did mention that 'someone else' (aka the person whom sent the ask displayed above) had brought this up, and it had not been taken well.

Either way, there is not much responsibility taken, or understanding shown on Djaq's part. Especially regarding why this specific portrayal (or any of the issues raised back then, or now) could have offended trans, or non-binary people. It seemed to be all about Djaq defending herself instead of empathizing with others. We think this point is adequately raised by the non-binary person who sent in the initial complaint, so I'll let them explain below with an excerpt:

DEHUMANIZING/OFFENDED INDIVIDUALS: I'd also like to bring to light another trans individual who has raised their discomfort about the same behavior, and this is only relevant because people who defend Djaq are sweeping this behavior under the rug as something that does not effect trans people:

It doesn't matter if her friends that are trans don't have an issue with it. That is their human right. However, multiple people DO have an issue with it, and it's not fair people who are being hurt by this are being diminished and it is being reduced to not a big deal:

This was done to this character specifically for fetish purposes, and is fetishization. Period. This is admitted by Djaq to have happened, which is why we are treating this current topic as fact.

Here's another post below that backs up claims about the initial complaint being about heavy emphasis (unneeded emphasis) on genitalia, and the Lady D situation:

Djaq has said multiple times that she wants to learn from this behavior, which is much appreciated. However the tone we find she (Djaq) uses is very accusatory and not encompassing of the entire situation. It also includes language that may diminish the problem at large, and it will come into play while discussing the more recent attacks launched on cartaxus, Djaq's more recent inclusion on DNI's, and how this prior situation and how it was handled by Djaq played a role in people becoming uncomfortable with her more recent posts and behavior. (Reminder that the situation lead to the harassment of another individual on behalf of Djaq's friends, and arguably more than one individual which have been discussed prior).

Below i'm including a post we'll revisit in part two because it is relevant, but it is just another example of a trans person indicating the issues with Djaq's behavior (both in the past, and in relation to what she has posted more recently), and how they were effected by it. This screenshot was taken from a publicly available DNI before it was removed, and any identity has been left out for privacy (click for better quality):

The post above also validates the idea of the issue being far from the portrayal of different walks of life.

This is all for part one: as in part two we would like to get more in-depth on what has happened more recently -- all which lead to the DNI made by cartaxus, and the subsequent false smear campaign that followed )by those associated with Djaq). It goes over some additional behavior that could be identified as unsavory, in relation to this initial conversation. I believe it will be more beneficial to go over this in a separate post so that nothing is confused.

Thank you for reading and have a lovely night. Please remember do not harass anyone, including Djaq. See you soon.

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MORE DEBUNKING

Hello again! (Screenshot from this post on @thewhorrcrs)

This post will be specifically referencing the ellipsis part, which has been referenced before in other posts. We hadn't intended to make a post like this but we noticed (only just today mind you) three instances outside of the obvious, of people using the ellipsis. I wonder if these people are copying Djaq and her 'original formatting', or if it's just an ellipses. We'll let you decide, I suppose. @whorrcr

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Re: Djaq denying knowing that people were bringing up race/racism:

So apologies for re-hashing this, but another example has come to our attention. We're bringing this to your attention, and also to Djaq's, in-case Djaq ( @whorrcr ) wants to block this person or otherwise cut ties. Something she claims that she would like to do, on a post we've linked on previous posts. But, we will include a screenshot of it for your reference here:

Here is the example below, and I'd just like to mention that again: if you're a trans person, or just a person in general, who does not find Djaq's actions transphobic? That's perfectly okay, valid and fine. However, it has undoubtedly hurt trans people as per actual anons received by Djaq (not to mention others), and those opinions should not be invalidated either. We find this post invalidates the experiences of trans people who may have, or continue to be hurt by her behavior. We also believe that the post below (posted by someone who sent some of the anon hate earlier in this post) is in-line with the other nasty claims citing that people who don't like Djaq, or pose an issue with her, are inherently racist. Nobody was accusing the poster of being transphobic either, and the individual referenced in this post should be able to gather whatever they want from the public information provided. @thewhorrcrs

SHOWCASE OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO AGAINST/CROSS DJAQ AND THE PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH HER: WOULD YOU WANT TO STAND UP TO A PERSON LIKE THIS?

While we work on some more serious topics regarding Djaq, we're just interested in taking a look at her claims that she did not, or has not attacked anyone for someone being put on a DNI. Additionally we simply wish to bring to light what happens when you upset Djaq, or try to stand up to her in any capacity.

This also brings her credibility into question.

A source claims Djaq's friend had sent them guilt-trippy messages. (Again, keeping anonymous due to privacy, unless you come to us in DM's or IM's asking for more details as we do have them) When Djaq was placed on a DNI with valid reasoning, stated by a trans person at the time who was uncomfortable with the continued way in which she was discussing having an equal amount of MTF and FTM muses. Especially given her behavior in the past. However, again, we will go through that as well in a later post. (We also have a screenshot of the DNI in question, while it was still up. That can also be asked for in private if needed).

Alright, so see below:

taken from this post on @thewhorrcrs

taken from this post:

We discussed her being perfectly aware that this was all happening in the post prior. However, let us go through some more things for you.

'i'm not the type of person to send anon hate."

We cannot actually prove you've sent anon hate however in a certain situation involving the discussion in this post we took screenshots of above, when the individual who placed Djaq on a DNI had their anon on, they received this: which we THEORIZE to be Djaq but you can be the judge, based on the details and how the message was typed. (Also considering once anon was off, a onslaught of her friends began attacking this individual). Here is the anon, below.

but whether or not that is Djaq or not, the abuse continued from other parties (urls to remain nameless, but again we have them if @whorrcr wants to reach out). Mind you this is all over adding someone to a DNI, over something that undeniably happened. Admitted by Djaq, that it happened.

The irony of saying that someone just blindly following something is a coward aside, not a very good look in our opinion. However again that is our opinion. Here's another. We think we should all agree adding someone to a DNI is not a witch hunt, opinions on posting the URL on the dash aside. Although consider Djaq has now made an entire callout blog, now that she's been added to an DNI without either recent party publicly posting the URL. Moving on. While we agree, being sex positive of trans and cis muses alike isn't fetishizing, that's not the issues being raised with Djaq anyway. However, again, we understand if trans people DON'T have an issue with Djaq's actions, but that DOES NOT and WILL NEVER diminish the feelings of those people who are trans, WHO HAVE BEEN HURT BY HER BEHAVIOR. we will be going over that still, in another post. So I digress. These two, while we're on the subject, are more attacks based on RACISM which DOES NOT support the claim made here: and here: regarding Djaq not being aware of the constant harassment of people whom oppose her, especially with those people having been called racists. However this does support the claims made by this person, below:

NOW, we're going to address a post previously left private (though the URL will remain as such for the person's privacy, however djaq also addressed it here, and we'll post a screenshot below)

here is that post, below:

above displays a burn blog that was made specifically to harass someone and call them racist on Djaq's behalf.

We find it hard to believe that with all of these instances of racism being brought into things, which again: is simply someone putting a mun on their DNI, there's a slim chance Djaq did not know that people were supporting her. Especially when we have the screenshot below, it seems quite... Interesting, to say the least. Also the RPR claims were false, as well.

We'd also like to address the post above regarding the harassment of people (of which was claimed by the individual in question), as we believe it is relevant here. The post above and the situation through Djaq's POV can be viewed on Sagaiisms: https://www.tumblr.com/sagaiisms, if you would like to view the record. Including Djaq acknowledging that the individual felt harassed though falling back on intentions. Something some of the people above have deemed not justifiable. However, TLDR: Djaq jumped into this situation unprompted, harassing a lesbian to defend an abusive organization. All of this was done as a cis woman with no idea what it is like to be a lesbian/homosexual in a religious environment. It's also clear she's not aware of the cultist agenda of the specific religion in question. This individual she harassed left tumblr for an entire year, and Djaq also encouraged people to add them to their DNI (will be gone over in a separate post)

In conclusion, would you reading this want to stand up to Djaq or her behavior? Would you wish to negate claims she's making against you? For you to be drug through the mud like this? We personally are, and would be afraid. This behavior is harmful to many people and should not be tolerated.

Would you allow hatefulness like this to be spread on your behalf? Be wary, and stay safe.

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DJAQ LYING ABOUT CLAIMING SHE DOES NOT ENGAGE IN DRAMA / CALLOUTS / ENGAGING IN DRAMA THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE HER + ISSUES WITH BEING INSENSITIVE REGARDING RELIGIOUS HOMOPHOBIA/ATTACKING AND HARASSING A GAY PERSON

Djaq has claimed many times that she does not get involved in drama, so when she does engage in it, you basically have to listen to her, because it must be so important. You can find some examples of her saying this in posts on this blog, but we'll include one below. Basically, she mentions that she doesn't reblog call-outs or get in the middle of things. we have more than one example of the contrary.

Before we proceed, we would like to make it clear that this post does not mean that we are condoning the actions of Lovett / Marnie, or quite frankly Lor, or speaking on whether the drama was worth getting into or not. It does not matter in this scenario. Nobody should be 'shit on', though Djaq certainly enjoys shitting on people quite a lot. However when the Lovett situation was going on, she was certainly getting involved: to the degree where she was harassing someone in turn, that was apparently close to Lovett. Weird, when she's upset that people were shitting on her own friend.

Enough to where Djaq URL-dropped this person by linking their blog directly, similarly to how she calls out others, and wants them to personally see her derogatory claims under the guise of being transparent. Below is an IMGUR file, name-dropping people regarding the situation above here: https://imgur.com/a/VxjD6We This page has so many gathered screenshots, and involves a lot of correspondence between Lor and Marnie, and even Djaq. However, I'm not sure why they released this. Neither Djaq or Lor come off in a very pleasant light, and furthermore Lor's URL is one of the URL's who sent one of the nasty anonymous messages in our last post. If she doesn't condone anon hate, why is she interacting with so many people who engage in that behavior? Below is the post we mentioned, where Djaq URL drops Marnie: (which by the way, were such horrible offence when done to HER, but she's 100% justified to do it to Nova, Spectre, and countless others. The first two mentioned DEFINITELY didn't deserve that, either. we understand confronting someone who does something bad, however publicly shaming people is never a good look. Even tagging her in anons SHE took about the entire situation, which why was she getting anons about the situation? Seems weird if you weren't the one directly involved. There are plenty ways behind the scenes to handle things like an adult, no matter what the accusations are, and there's no use arguing with people who's minds cannot be changed. But she needed to be involved. Not to mention the ugliness of how it was handled behind closed doors as well. Here's the same screenshot as was in another post of ours, with the URL (pcrfectstorms) included, below.

Also, only going 4 months without making a drama tag/needing a drama tag is a little bit suspect, for someone who 'doesn't get involved in drama'. However, we have to link some of the drama tags from her last few blogs which no doubt have more than one post. If you wanted you could look at her other former blogs and take a look for yourself. Keep in mind, the tumblr search function sucks so you might have to finagle the URL a bit.

^^ this is the drama tag from her old blog

This is the large point we'd like to bring up. She claims not to reblog callouts, which seems to be true. Perhaps she doesn't care about other people's problems as much as she cares about her own. However, Djaq has indeed MADE and POSTED callouts for three different people. I'm not sure how many separate callouts she's made about Nova herself, but it's more than two. Not to mention an entire callout blog now, on @thewhorrcrs Again, i'd like to say that this is REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT WAS NEEDED, which in any case was NOT needed by her. There's entire docs made about Marnie's behavior and she did not have to take this on. We would like to say that the Marnie situation is the ONLY one where a case could be made that a callout or DNI was warranted. The Caspar situation we believe Djaq was entirely in the wrong for. At least when it comes to intention, and treatment. We understand arguments are arguments and there were certainly bad things side on both sides, but Djaq even getting involved was WAY out of line. Below is the Marnie post. This is from this year, by the way.

There's also AN ADDITIONAL post here, that is addressing the Marnie situation. It's the full post below of the screenshot we included, of the anon Djaq received.

Here is some additional proof of her involving herself in drama that doesn't concern her. She says she lives by Ao3 rules (more-less so she can write / write with people who do 'dead dove don't eat' shit) which, okay: but don't say that you don't say anything to the creator, or should live by ao3 rules, while trying to spread around URLS about a situation that has NOTHING do to with you. Adults can make their own decisions about the content they're taking in. (We're not making any claims about the ethics of the drama involving the ST fandom, because we don't know what it is) However, it seems pretty hypocritical to offer information like that with the kind of content she condones and the values of which she speaks of in this post. She should have told her friends privately if they asked her, and let the drama play out if she were so against getting involved in drama. See below:

In the situation we'll be speaking about below, Caspar (old alias) was just talking about things she had an issue with. Something Djaq said is apparently okay. However, she involved herself anyway. See her claims below: The most interesting being, that you should ask yourself how you would feel if someone sent something like this to you:

In the post below she's encouraging people to put horrorempathy on their DNI's, for sticking up for themselves as a lesbian person being discriminated against, and being told (by Djaq) how she should feel about Jehova's Witnesses as a gay person. ( We're going to make a post researching the harmful religion of JW, to prove that Casper was indeed correct to make this generalization to begin with).

We still would like to make a separate post about the Caspar situation, however, this is the callout being spoken of in the screenshot above. There's a link and screenshots below. It is yet another example of a callout post made by Djaq about someone. This one resulting in still speaking about the drama more than a month after the fact, and in the mun under attack taking a year long hiatus from tumblr and needing to change their alias to feel safe coming back to the platform. The screenshot above literally says she's been checking on horror empathy every day, which supports the stalking claims. Why not move on? It's also something she's been doing to Nova for years, under the guise of checking for 'copying'.

Intentions don't matter. Someone claimed she harassed them, which supports other claims made about Djaq as well. also the way she treated this individual was not right, no matter what might have been said on the other side. Djaq should undoubtedly know how it feels to face discrimination, and the treatment of the other mun in this situation was inexcusable. She has written 3 callout posts on her own, not to mention the others about Nova that had come out since. That alone is unnerving. Also, not having Marnie on her CURRENT DNI who is still in the RPC, but having the two individuals that ARE there in her place, is laughable. It's your right to put whoever you want on your DNI but to indicate they've done something wrong and that it is not for personal reasons is not okay either. Casper was hounded and hounded and hounded by Djaq over and over and over again, when she DID NOT have to get involved or say ANYTHING.

Now, regarding the other religions (Other than JW, who are undoubtedly known for SHUNNING gay people from their community and taking them away / separating them from their families similar to scientology: i personally recommend Leah Remini's special episode exposing JW if you'd like a good look from former members of the cult themselves)

generalising an entire religion as cruel is a double edge sword. yes there can be some bad apples and some good apples. so understanding the annoyance behind that is reasonable however the entire approach to the topic ( coming out to a religious family being difficult ) and actively ignoring the human feelings is NOT the way to go. if you ( djaq ) were raised by JW's to be loving, kind and understanding, why instantly jump on the attack and defensive over someone generalising rather than see the human emotions? it is incredibly disheartening. there will always be good and bad in religion but also social groups, class, communities, and cultures. historically, i've been taught to put aside my own feelings and contemporary thoughts. to look at the subject/topic/culture with an open mind to understand how and why something or someone did/feels/reacts this way.

djaq is emotional and let personal thought take over rather than understand casper's position. additionally ( as proven ) djaq is heteromantic/heterosexual which in today's society and by JWs social understanding, is accepted openly and without question. throughout history members of the LGBTQ+ have been ostracised, targeted and even killed because of identity or sexuality. that fear, that hatred, is subconsciously taught in some cases, especially in a familial dynamic. casper's case and feelings about coming out to a religious family is justified.

djaq reacting in a defensive nature, through a psychological point of view, indicates that she is either lacking an understanding or awareness to the LGBTQ+ backlash from societies globally, or knows of what JWs have done and continue to do to them. she used defensive words and phrases, many cases of 'i', 'me' and 'my' which indicates the latter of the two statements. in this case of religious generalising: ive also met some horrible religious people and lovely religious people.

@whorrcr

WE HAVE MORE IN-DEPTH SCREENSHOTS OF THE HARRASSMENT WE'LL KEEP PRIVATE UNLESS ASKED FOR IN PRIVATE/DM'S OR ASK (WE'LL REACH OUT WITH THE PROOF). This is for Casper's safety moving forward. We apologize on Djaq's behalf and also would like to wish you the best moving forward.

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RE: SOMNOPHILIA ISSUE

We're here to address the claims Djaq made in her current pinned post, that we have not addressed yet.

She mentioned consent here, which is the main thing we'd like to address. Please note we are not saying that if you write this, you need to stop to stop. In the original post we are just warning people. However we consider this kink to be pretty much non-con or at worst dub-con, which again, if you choose to write that sort of content fine: However please do not try and defend the missing definition as making something unproblematic inherently. We certainly admit to not adding that definition, however we hardly think this matters to the point we intended to make.

Coming from someone who has had a violating experience with Somnophilia: "While not remembering whether or not I gave consent, it lead to to self victim blaming Personally, I believe it brings too much issues with consent into play, and runs too close to entirely not being able to give consent. It leans on victims minimizing their own trauma, and it is very VERY awful to not know or remember what had happened, especially when you're waking up during the abuse and having to be silenced by an easy claim for abusers. Especially when it's done by your partner, as it was in my case. It leads to being afraid of them and not knowing if you can trust the ones you love most. In my personal opinion if this is the kind of content you want to write, fine. Especially as the same could be and has been said for being under the influence of alcohol. (However being under the influence and somnophilia SHOULD NEVER GO TOGETHER)"

Thank you to the survivor above for their brave statement, and have a good day to all. @whorrcr @thewhorrcrs

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SHOWCASE OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO AGAINST/CROSS DJAQ AND THE PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH HER: WOULD YOU WANT TO STAND UP TO A PERSON LIKE THIS?

This also brings her credibility into question.

Alright, so see below:

taken from this post on @thewhorrcrs

taken from this post:

We discussed her being perfectly aware that this was all happening in the post prior. However, let us go through some more things for you.

'i'm not the type of person to send anon hate."

NOW, we're going to address a post previously left private (though the URL will remain as such for the person's privacy, however djaq also addressed it here, and we'll post a screenshot below)

here is that post, below:

above displays a burn blog that was made specifically to harass someone and call them racist on Djaq's behalf.

Would you allow hatefulness like this to be spread on your behalf? Be wary, and stay safe.

#whorrcr #whorror #djaq

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HYPOCRISY OF DJAQ:

this will be a short post. however, we wanted to bring attention to these posts:

https://www.tumblr.com/whorrcr/724290273664008192/hey-guys-hate-to-bring-this-stuff-back-onto-my?source=share

It seemed at the time that Djaq was very happy with people going ahead and coming to her defense.

interesting. also @whorrcr if you really want to disconnect from all of the people who harassed that person, or block them: we have all of the urls, we'd be happy to give them to you if you reach out to us. we'd advocate helping to make your dashboard a safer space for you! @thewhorrcrs

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HYPOCRISY IN THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING DJAQ (SCREENSHOTS KEPT ANONYMOUS)

IF YOU HAVE IN YOUR RULES THAT YOU DO NOT CONDONE 'CALLOUT POSTS/CONTINUOUS CALLOUTS OVER PETTY DRAMA' IN YOUR RULES, YOU SHOULD NOT BE FOLLOWING DJAQ. Period.

either way, we have some things we'd like to discuss around the people whom Djaq associates with. names and urls will remain out of it, however we'd like to bring some attention to some things.

alright, so first of all: this post was made by someone who steadfastly wants to defend Djaq and also blasts someone on their DNI of which they have reportedly never approached for any comment regarding the situation. let me start with the fact that we believe everything in this post. we're not going to defend what we're doing here other than bringing to light many years of falsifying a narrative and other considerably harmful behavior (which i do understand certain people not having a problem with, however that doesn't negate the people who have been hurt by her actions. who undoubtedly exist: which we also feel has been negated by certain individuals, regarding the talk around trans fetishizing). first, how jobless do you have to be to create a whole blog to compile callouts? as jobless as Djaq apparently @thewhorrcrs lots of callouts have really inane shit that isn't even callout material. for example, someone being upset that someone is reblogging the same musings posts as them (some almost a month later, from VERY POPULAR BLOGS) which is apparently 'copying' due to the two having the same face-claim. inane shit like that, you mean? i don't think that constitutes being a predator, does it? no. it doesn't. as far as we know, djaq is not a 'circle of people' she's one person with an opinion you can share, or not share. judging by this post it seems this individual does not share, though it appears as though they've been passionate in this endeavor to defend her and make their own dni about it. doesn't think it has precedence if this is something the person has done years back, or has grown from: has this individual ever reached out to the other side for their side of the story? no. have they ever considered the friendship between Djaq and Nova as over four to five years ago, and changed her face-claim in 2019? we're not sure, however we'd like to personally let them know now. you admit people are not going to be consistent in bettering themselves all the time in this post, though that's not seeming to be extended is it? no. also, i'd like to highlight the idea that you can make an argument for Nova still engaging in this behavior, despite Djaq engaging in it as well. however again, no alternate side of the story was ever reached out for. also it's come to my attention this person has interaction with someone accused of something similar. interesting.

i could also make some of the same points to the individual below. it seems like you may empathize with the other party in this situation, seeing as you have gone through something similar in the past. also from someone who has interacted with several of djaq's post regarding this individual/callout behavior.

here are some other posts / snippets from rues from known associates of djaq which do not seem to condone her behavior:

(have you, the people in the screenshots above, ever asked anyone besides Djaq? or are you just defending her because you're friend? which, i can certainly understand. however just say that).

if this is you, i hope you can see the hypocrisy in your behavior. @whorrcr

#whorrcr #djaq #whorror

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MORE OF DEBUNKING / ADDRESSING CLAIMS MADE BY DJAQ:

just to further call ridiculousness to the entire situation, we already pointed out that Djaq also copied Nova's aesthetic and it was also glossed over. to use the exact word DJAQ used. Djaq also called attention to this, here:

although that changing of aesthetics never happened did it? not that we remember, anyway. but let us bring attention back to the point at hand. Djaq knew that Nova was using church aesthetics, and yet changed all of her aesthetics to religious aesthetic as-well. which in Djaq's logic (i'm only using her own logic here, as far as she's making clear) is especially bad because she used Gaea when the Church Girl aesthetic was applied to Temperance. She could have used any muse, but of course Gaea is her favorite. but what do we know, right? Djaq is conveniently not going to take responsibility for any of her actions anyway.

Regarding the post above, I think it's safe to say Nova has retracted that statement. If you know the characters aren't too similar why does it bother you so much? why keep bringing it up, time and time again? It feels vindictive, and your behavior in the past very much highlights this. (in a situation with another mun who i will not speak about without permission, but everything is still up for you to look at on the blog: sagaiisms). in-fact regarding the aforementioned situation, Djaq was still talking about this particular situation a month after it occurred, and seemed very happy to compile everything into a neat little bow for everyone to read in warning about this individual. and the mun in question took a year long hiatus after this all went down. we do have receipts of all of this in-case the posts are deleted. We also find this situation problematic in regards to Djaq, but we do not wish to put any additional stress on the mun in question so we will not, until further notice. But again, it's all still public record you can research if you'd like. Djaq also went out of her way to tag Nova in a callout post referenced in a receipt we've already posted, and went through enough blogs to find ONE Nova might have forgotten to block.

Besides this not being on Nova's blog, let's just say that they were for a moment. we thought Nova was already called out by Djaq for 'copying' you or reblogging 'similar aesthetics'. If Djaq accusing Nova of copying over, and over - for years - why wouldn't she take some of the fear out of it, if it's going to keep happening anyway? regardless of the quote Nova gave us as a comment on this, where she'd like to prove Djaq is looking in on her, and in fact 'stalking' -- we empathize with the idea of just leaning into it, if it's going to be brought up again, and again, and again. Before I go on a petty example: if Djaq feels as though this is 'stalking' and has wanted to defend herself against the stalking allegations against her (something she's brought up several times) during this debate:

well, just wednesday this happened: does this mean Djaq is 'stalking' Nova?

or do you see how fucking silly this all is? but since it's not silly to Djaq we're going to continue to document. we also have these from the previous post:

we won't talk about the claim of not giving something 'fanfare' while also making an 'entire ass callout blog' (i'm sorry that Djaq has been labelled a danger, however she has literally tried, and in one case, succeeded for a while, to run people off the site. and she makes a big fanfare out of their cancellation because they did something SHE PERSONALLY didn't appreciate.

admittedly, yes. by a year. because you made her in 2018.

no they haven't and neither have the debunking we've done of your own claims.

but Djaq also felt that way. It's again been addressed but we'll crop the screenshot for reference below: so when Nova says it it's wrong, however it seems fine that Djaq seemed to say the same thing. so did she lie about them being similar, or did she just say it as well?

and just going back to this screenshot for a different point: those in the heading are both the same thing. the italics does not change the definition.

doesn't muutos also use that ellipses? wouldn't it make more sense for nova to get that from her fiancé?

just one more point to make. Temperance is a baker, and Djaq wants to say that their two characters aesthetics are 'too similar'. however, has written this in a thread before:

we hate to make such childish points however based on what we're dealing with, we merely wish to point out the hypocrisy of the entire situation. more to come. @whorrcr @thewhorrcrs

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whcrror · 1 year ago

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hello! despite claiming to be giving this 'no further attention' there was an update to Djaq's DNI linking to a reddit post. this was made 4 years ago by Talia or Eurus. I was going to keep the name out of it, but whatever at this point. there's no screenshots, or proof to these allegations made in the post: those of which are being pushed by someone who clearly twists narratives (Djaq): as displayed with the post below this one, and so on. I have some relevant screenshots to add to the narrative. so it's not so one sided. @whorrcr @thewhorrcrs

(interesting Djaq also accuses us of wanting to 'push our own narrative' - when i very much encourage people to look at djaq's own blog (thewhorrcrs), and freely post and speak on the url / posts made at length with proof. She has not posted a single thing from our blog, and in-fact has vowed to ignore everything else. this is within Djaq's right.)

'Not a Good Look' to post something that was supposed to be anonymous. Also not a good look to lie about easily fact checked things, such as the issue in the post underneath this one. this showing Djaq's ability to twist a narrative. Also, why update a DNI if you don't plan to follow more people? anyway..

Interesting this Talia is having a similar issue in the WOW (world of warcraft) community, dating back seven months or so. it shows that she's in situations like this quite often, perhaps - certainly more than the person in question (Nova). the url is : https://himbonoir.tumblr.com

I'm not sure if the two of these people are the best source of information regarding a situation involving accusations, as it seems like they are involved in drama consistently even now. below is one of the first moments that Talia began talking to Nova again, discussing how to move forward. discourse in mutual friends aside, the two seemed to be friends but there was some discomfort there. that's fine on all sides, seems like a healthy interaction to me. nova owns up to things and apologizes and gives Talia space to process.

The claim about the tickets: the reddit post left out a part. It's also come to my attention she changed her flight and saw another friend instead. 'that's not the way that works' is a fair statement about a non-refundable ticket. it is in fact the case.

i'm not saying believe one side or the other, however there was some additional info we had that we wanted to bring to light in light of the new addition, in order to give people a more rounded view of the story. however while you can draw your own conclusions, you cannot know for sure what someone's intentions were unless you wish to ask them about it yourselves to do your own research. on our side it seems like the history of narrative twisting and drama has been on the Talia/Djaq side of things.

Talia mentioned guilt tripping in the post, however. again, if we aren't involved we can't say what the intentions were. however it seemed short and sweet. here's a screenshot illustrating the picture a bit more clearly. Nova mentions that Talia's comfort comes first, and says that she can do what she needs to do for her own comfort. also that she wishes nothing but the best for Talia.

but again, draw your own conclusions! have a good day.

although please know we are dedicated to fact-checking, as with the post below.

#whorrcr #whorror #djaq

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whcrror · 1 year ago

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Because I got added to her fiance's DNI & nothing came of it. And I added them to mine & got a whole ass call-out blog from it, with ongoing posts.

nice try, the pinned post was made the day the blog was made, july 12th. you can check above, at the pinned.

the adding of Djaq to the dni in question was made:

also edit, didn't Djaq make the callout blog this was in reference to AFTER july 27th?

but Djaq says nothing came of it. Djaq says that SHE had a whole callout blog made about HER, because she was added to a DNI. not true.

Djaq made a whole callout blog, the day after being added to a DNI.

The last time she was added to a DNI, this happened to someone: https://www.tumblr.com/thewhorrcrs/724289805739032576/yeah-this-isnt-cool-for-one-thing-pretty?source=share

not to mention the post that was sent to Djaq, which is referenced here:

which we also have, but will remain anonymous for the person's privacy. @whorrcr

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whcrror · 1 year ago

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FOLLOW UP:

we don't care if Djaq cares. This post is not for Djaq, but for anyone who doesn't know either side of the story. we believe the side of the story needed to be told. for years Djaq controlled the narrative, and if there was anything left unturned it's her own fault it had been left unturned. the narrative her friends have received has been one sided, and as far as i know nobody has made any attempts to reach out and receive any comment from Nova.

however with permission of the concerned party, and anyone who actually cares enough to know the entire story: we'd like to address that.

Djaq mentioned Nova having reblogged the same photos, and I had gotten a statement from Nova regarding this: https://www.tumblr.com/thewhorrcrs/724514081814560768/because-i-got-added-to-her-fiances-dni?source=share

'me reblogging the same posts? that she keeps bringing up? i wanted to prove she was stalking me, yeah. i don't actually care about what it is she's doing on her blog. i don't care about gaea, i don't care about the content she's doing. in fact, revisiting all of this, has made me kind of sad this is where we've ended up. i just want people to see that she is in fact stalking me and it is unfair that i have to live in fear on my blog. i just want to live in peace.'

when members of the community who add Djaq to their dni are attacked by Djaq's friends (we have specific urls of those individuals who sent asks by the way, as well as the screenshots you've addressed here) - who are spewing hurtful things at them, whether Djaq knew about it or not... why would Nova wish to speak out against Djaq? why would she believe anyone would care about what she has to say? especially when nobody has even bothered to ask from Djaq's side. Believe us if you want, don't if you don't. we don't think Djaq will lose any friends over this, or expect to change anyone's mind. that's never the issue. we just don't think this has been a fair thing that's gone on.

Here are some facts:

Free templates are not copying. Having the same FC is not copying. Reblogging the same posts as someone else, musings or of a FC, is not copying. Sharing aesthetics is not copying. ESPECIALLY not when the characters are absolutely nothing alike. Plagiarism is copying. Directly knocking off / copying graphics is copying. Stealing a bio to a reasonable degree is copying.

Djaq lives by AO3 rules, she should probably know that.

Nova's tiredness is not something we can't empathize with if that is indeed the case behind it. Petty, sure. However is all of this not petty?

we hope this clears anything up for any interested parties! @whorrcr

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whcrror · 1 year ago

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PART II / DEBUNKING COPYING CLAIMS AGAINST NOVA: SIDE BY SIDE BIO COMPARISON. (might have to be three parts due to photo limit).

to preface this, we reached out to Djaq to see if she wanted to engage, and give us Gaea's bio. not to mention, whether Djaq was open to addressing the information we have gained.

we have tried asking the relevant question that should have been asked a long time ago: are Temperance and Gaea even similar?

Djaq has always claimed that if she has an issue, she would always voice it and respond to genuine inquiries. Djaq also stated that she has nothing to hide. however, we were blocked after making the inquiries mentioned above.

the inquiries you are about to see were never answered publicly by Djaq, unless directly stated otherwise.

let's start from the beginning.

in our research for the post we have made before (part i), we had noticed that she had changed her face claim for her oc Aramis. This change was from Keanu Reeves to Idris Elba. now, to prefix this - doing this is totally okay. It is 100 percent okay to change a white face-claim to a POC face-claim, as representation is important. again, if everything is done respectfully - which in Djaq's case, it was - then all power to that decision. especially if you're a POC man who is fed-up with the lack of representation in the RPC, and wish to diversify their dashboards. (same with any underrepresented community).

however, where the problem does arise, is the blatant references Djaq has made to the changing of Temperance's face-claim. Djaq has also now claimed that she has an issue with Nova having changed her face claim. Nova had changed her face-claim (july 22nd 2019, a year after Gaea's existence/see reference in part i) from Jenna Coleman (a white face-claim) to Beyonce Knowles-Carter (a black face-claim). again, nothing wrong with that. although as we've said, Djaq has claimed to have an issue with this. i'll get to this in a moment.

with that out of the way: with this particular emphasis in mind, once I had seen that Aramis had been changed from Keanu to Idris -- I reached out to Djaq politely to hear her side of the story. she said this:

note, this ask was answered publicly: let us go through this a bit: however we won't be harping on this too much, as we went over the reason why Nova changed her face-claim to Beyonce in part i of this post. this should now be cleared up: at least if you care to listen to either side of the story. however, again, we have no problem with Djaq or Nova doing this. we just wanted to hear Djaq's side of the story regarding the issue present, and the emphasis on that particular fact. a fact which seems pretty irrelevant to the story (other than the fc change in general. the constant phrasing of white to black, Jenna to Bey: the specification never sat right with us). we also addressed the 'big deal about their fc's being too similar' in the part i post, below this one. what we do feel the need to address here is the idea that smut writing ticked up, after she made the change. now, i suppose the expectation would be that we would not do our research on this. regardless of the easy explanation that sometimes people simply wish to write smut more often once they become more confident in their smut writing: Temperance has always been a relatively smutty character, as we've noted going through old blogs (all links to previous blogs included in pt. i to peruse for yourself, if you don't believe us) with head-canons running from one face-claim to the next. we will post some examples, but won't go too hard on it, since this is a pretty silly thing anyway. especially considering that Djaq shouldn't have been able to tell a significant difference. especially if Djaq hadn't been keeping up with her.

not sure if this is enough for Djaq to remove this from her DNI/posts. However Djaq is always free to peruse Nova's blogs for more insight. anyway, this lead us to wish to inquire about what we've personally been wondering about, and waiting for. waiting for what we would argue, is a very long time. this is considering that it's been years since the callouts have begun coming out, from Djaq's side. no matter what the different claims over the years have been, (made by Djaq): the establishing claim that ties the entire basis of Djaq's arguments together, is the alleged fact of the obvious similarities between the two characters. the similarities between Temperance, and Gaea. our thoughts above on the situation will be made more clear in the ask we've tried to send. this ask will be included below. this ask was NOT answered publicly. we thought it was important to send the ask, as we feel like no real research has been put into this topic and everything has been word of mouth. where is the side-by-side comparison of bios? wouldn't this prove or disprove everything once and for all? we think it should, so why would Djaq not give that information if Djaq has evidence she hasn't posted about the alleged copying? see below: first, we asked politely if she had the screenshots of the biographies she could post, so that we could see whether the characters in question were at all similar. we got a response, however in private. here is the screenshot:

an odd thing considering Djaq has claimed to have nothing to hide. However, Djaq also claims to have evidence. Nova has never called Djaq a fetishizer as we know of - again, links provided for your perusing pleasure in part i, as well as the claims we mention in this paragraph. please reference this, if you're confused. anyway, now we need to clear up the obvious issue with all of this. please note, we did not receive ANY type of response to this ask, posted below:

we asked Djaq if she would be willing to go on record with the response to the above ask, and the one we received a private answer to. we gave Djaq two hours or so to respond, before sending this:

we tried to go about this as politely as possible, and definitely understand and will own up to the faults of the behavior displayed by us. however, we did want to give Djaq the opportunity to clear the record herself. we will not embellish to speak badly about Djaq, as this is not what we want to do. we don't know Djaq personally, and have no personal issues with Djaq. However, as we said we thought this was a VERY important point, and it was unfair to keep this out of the narrative when it seems like such an easy thing to prove or deny. shortly after sending this ask, we were blocked from this account by Djaq. this leads us to this post, where we will post the two bios of Temperance and Gaea below. (we will also be posting another version of temp's stats where the main verse changes from Temperance being a doctor to a baker, as well as a link to the google doc) The first bio of Temperance's is from before the face-claim change, and before the 'drama' began. The second bio is after Temperance's face was changed from Jenna to Beyonce. The third bio, is Gaea's. The bio for Gaea is taken from the blog unecrth. the link below contains the biography.

we won't say much about the bios as you can gather as an adult human being, whether the characters are as similar as everyone has thus-far been lead to believe. Jenna Coleman bio of Nova's:

Beyonce bio of Nova's:

main verse / link to google doc (Temperance/Nova) (we ran out of image space so reference as you wish)

again, you can do with this information what you want. we advocate asking us any questions and we'll try our best to answer them with the knowledge we have.

the last thing i'd like to mention is in reference to part i, as we'd like to make it clear that we do know of one single post of Nova's addressing the drama over the years, which can be found here: https://www.tumblr.com/khalaesi/722030543652388864/i-am-here-to-write-my-barbies-and-to-just-have?source=share

Djaq has directly addressed this post: https://www.tumblr.com/thewhorrcrs/724061589272133632/im-going-to-take-a-moment-to-address-something?source=share

nova's statement on this post:

'i really wrote this cause i'm tired. but it wasn't really directly at her either. i don't mention her and frankly wasn't vaguing. i was just venting, is what i was doing. i even put it under a read more because no one who didn't want to read it, would have. just airing out my thoughts, really for the first time publicly. i try to keep my following very separate from hers. i knew there was a possibility she could see it since she legitimately said she would be keeping an eye on me. but there are more serious issues on tumblr than just two people who enjoy an artist using the same faceclaim. that's what all that at the bottom was about. i've spent years bettering myself, and have tried to change for the better, so i was just finally tired because after years, even after a whole two year hiatus, nothing changed.'

other than that, you will not find one negative word about Djaq on a blog of Nova's. again, you can find the links to Nova's blogs in part i. we hope this helps broaden the story and thank you for reading. have a lovely day!

@whorrcr

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whcrror · 1 year ago

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TOPIC : DEBUNKING CHARACTER SIMILARITIES / COPYING CLAIMS AGAINST NOVA

(please note: we have spoken to nova, and some text included will be direct dm quotes / screenshots provided by her, as far as her explanation of the events. however some screenshots have been obtained by us. she was very happy to speak with us and provide her side of the story. which as of now, we've been told has never been asked from her in the few years of this issue being public. we tried to reach out to djaq for comment but instead were met with a block, and ignoring of our inquiries).

this debate has been going on for years with callout after callout made about NOVA by someone who claims that they do not like drama or calling people out. djaq is someone who is trying to ostracize nova, and drag someone's name through the mud with zero retaliation to any of this. for years. enough is enough. i would not be making this post if a defense was not in order, as this is petty high-school drama that has been blown to a proportion that is entering the territory of purposeful sabotage and harassment as well as stalking and obsessive behaviors. i believe an explanation is required on nova's behalf with her permission.

we do not have all of the screenshots of all the call-out post, as Djaq has deleted the blog where the first callout was made. (on laetuus, or previously chryscs when the callout was posted). the earliest screenshots of mention on record is:

(^ found on glysimachia-blog, and here is a link to the first screenshot here). Djaq states here, that Nova blocked her (Djaq) over the similarities of their two characters. (Temperance, being Nova's OC and Gaea being Djaq's). Nova does admit that she said those words, and that she told Djaq that their characters were too similar. she's never denied that, either. however the circumstances at the time were stressful. nova admits that she said that, due to other things going on in her life. as well as a falling out with a close friend. ( i will post Nova's comments below about this in particular, as well as relevant dm's). however as someone who writes with her, Djaq must have been familiar with temperance and her old bios. i find it hard to believe that she did not know that the characters were not actually similar. however, i also have screencaps of Djaq saying that she believes that temperance and gaea are too similar. see below. so clearly, this is not just an issue that only Nova had spoken of before. that fact i thought was important, due to the claims of Nova 'blocking her (Djaq)' over that specific reason. claims which are not true. Djaq actually endorsed the choice and chose to completely cut ties. Djaq also supported Temp, and wished her luck moving forward. you might expect at the time she would have been worried about copying, whether the face-claims were similar or not.

quote from nova about the severing of ties: "so she ended up cutting ties with me. that's fine. and we did talk a little bit after i made my change. but i feel like at the time, i couldn't properly explain why i changed my faceclaim. i want to emphasize that i did not intentionally change my faceclaim to hers. yes i had known that she used beyonce, but i didn't, go out of my way to change from jenna to beyonce. but like what's more important is why i did it in the first place. by this point i've had temperance for about 6-7 years i think and her faceclaim had become synonymous with her. but i was in an unhealthy friendship, partially maybe cause of me, but overall it was unhealthy and i made temperance revolve around this friend. made everything about her weave itself into this friend's original character. but much like djaq had cut ties, this friend did after, which is fine. but it left me floundering, looking to grasp the character i once knew. with me having weaved everything that she was into this other character that i now had nothing with, i felt like i needed to reclaim her in some way, and because i didn't want to just drop her, i changed her faceclaim and worked the new au that i had been working on into her backstory and basically revamped her that way."

relevant dm's below

that fact aside, i have screenshots of a dm between Nova, and a mutual friend of she and Djaq. this implies that Djaq has indicated that there were prior issues in her and Nova's relationship. Nova had been under the impression that everything was okay. also, the screenshot above proves that as well. Nova had been blindsided, but she was respectful - and they seemed to part ways peacefully. "similarities" aside. don't worry, i will be posting side-by-side bios of temp's before and after the fc change, along with gaea's bio. i will be doing this in a separate post. this could be multiple parts. below you'll find the screen caps of the dm's with the mutual friend, which Nova referenced above.

MOVING ON FOR NOW: Djaq has recently claimed that Nova has been obsessive, and is only 'checking in on her blog in order to keep herself safe from obsessive behavior' (i will post the screen-cap of this below. for the sake of transparency, to this day i do not know who had sent Djaq this ask). however it was somewhat after the more recent callout, five months ago, which i will also include below. Djaq's response to prove the obsessive behavior on nova's part (and i will provide all of Nova's former url's that still exist. this being if you wish to check/comb through them for any posts even so much as MENTIONING Djaq or the drama), Djaq only has cited some coincidental 'isms' posting (which i'll get to later in depth), and the failsafe of their characters being 'too similar'.

you can find the post above, still up on Djaq's blog. It's even linked in her CARRD. the accusations about public templates aside, it's interesting that Djaq has been so adamant about the copying of aesthetics. especially when shortly AFTER Nova changed her aesthetic and url to chrchgrl, and started (understandably) using church aesthetics (timestamps on screenshots below) -- Djaq also began to use church aesthetics. and it is clear at this time she was checking Nova's blog regularly and knew this. (also i know how petty it is to mention this, however, if this is Djaq's main argument at this point, i am simply attempting to point out the inherent hypocrisy here. normally, we as people would not care, nor consider this copying. however since Djaq apparently does consider it copying, it is relevant here. especially since said aesthetics include Gaea and the church girl aesthetic was Temperance's aesthetic)

alright, so with those comparisons made, we'd like to direct everyone to the part of the asks i included above:

since this post, there has been no more evidence posted regarding the subject on Djaq's part. however, we did give Djaq the opportunity to provide it to no avail. also, as far as reblogging the same things (face claim related), below are some screenshots for your consideration as well.

next, i'd like to call attention to the fact that TEMPERANCE SHAW IS ROUGHLY FIVE YEARS OLDER AS A MUSE THAN GAEA IS. Temp's bio has changed in certain ways over the years, as all oc's adapt and change. however i'll have Nova's statement regarding the major character changes as well. below you'll find a dated screenshot on the oldest post archived for TEMPERANCE'S first blog, dated 2013:

next, below you have the fauna shine url, and you'll find a dated screenshot on the oldest post archived for GAEA'S first blog:

we in collaboration here, would be happy to receive comment from Djaq regarding any character changes Gaea has been through since 2018. However this proves that Temperance has been around for quite some time, and much longer than Gaea. quote from Nova, herself : "honestly the biggest change that came with temperance from all of this was the fact that i felt like with the revamp, i couldn't just have her be a doctor anymore to be honest. before i was cut off by both djaq and that friend ( who really doesn't need to be involved so i don't want to mention ) it just felt wrong to keep going as though nothing had happened. before the cut, i fell in love with the idea of an au of temperance never having been a doctor at all and instead owning a bakery. so what i did was take that au and find out just how seamlessly i could put it in her story. so instead of her successfully finishing medical school, i changed it so she dropped out within the first year and instead ran off to open sweet temptations, her bakery. and that's where i've been writing her ever since."

to bring up the point below about 'dodging asks' or trying to cover things up:

i do understand not wishing to let things slide under the rug. which we believe Djaq is now doing - but again, this will be referenced later in part ii. however, there have been private conversations since the accusations, of which nova has been more than cordial. there's also an apology djaq has sent her, all of which are included below for you to see. after this apology however she continues to be aggressive in public, as is clear by now.

also, regarding the above claims regarding the commissions, i have the caps of the conversations between nova and jayne to prove this was not a lie.

NOVA'S PAST URL'S FEATURING TEMP AS PROMISED.

ferocitersubtilis-archive, ferocitersubtilis, opportuniists-blog, falsiifiedmemoriesarchive-blog, falsiifiedmemories-v2, falsiifiedmemories-blog, doctcraa, doctcra-a-blog, mysericordia-a, mysericordia-arc, conmiseracionn, myseracion, chrchgrl-arc, chrchgrl, khalaesi, coilicah, coilicaha, defiantdelicacy

stay tuned for part ii. @whorrcr

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