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SR: [video clip, added later]
@ Rumbybagg this is a scene from a show I rlly like
Rumbybagg: i feel like im missing a lot of context
btw sr did you actually dislike interview with the vampire?
cuz you talk about lestat like you wanna see more of him
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs first msg] Uhhh, so kunou (the mc that’s talking) rode onto the wrong bus, and that bus got hijacked. It turns out one of the persons on the bus killed the hijacker’s sister. They were brought into a mansion. And to find out who killed the sister, the hijacker told them to confess the worst crime they’ve done. And awaji ippei talked about how he was bullied into stealing things from a shop multiple times when he was young.
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "btw sr did you .." msg] Uhh, I wouldn’t say dislike but I couldn’t get interested enough
Kunou just coincidentally rode onto the wrong bus and was mistaken as one of the suspects for the death of the hijacker’s sister
Rumbybagg: seems … kinda unrealistic
tbh
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] Why?
Rumbybagg: well, people can lie, tell the hijaker something insignificant
(me, i killed someone) no man i just stabbed someone with a fork once in a drunken rage
it was nonlethal man [edited]
at the club
SR: dYeah obv they’re not gonna tell the hijacker that they killed his sister
He looks at their reaction and stuff
And he plans to keep them there until they find the murderer [edited]
Rumbybagg: okay also unrealistic, cuz when you confine people being interrogated the last resort is to give in and tell whatever the interrogator wants to hear, and also, a hijaker cant keep people locked up in a bus forever, max an hour
SR: Anyways regardless of if it’s realistic or not
It’s a rlly good show
And it moved me a lot
Rumbybagg: whats it called
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "okay also unrealistic,..." msg] They’re in his mansion
The bus driver was an accomplice
Rumbybagg:
>lives in mansion (presumably rich)
>cannot hire a private investigator
???
SR: He did
And the private investigator shrunken the suspects to the people in the bus.
Because they all get off at the final stop where the sister last went off and was last seen
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "last msg"whats it called" msg] Don’t call it mystery
Rumbybagg: quick important question: what is the SHOWS opinion on the japanese police (presuming its set in japan)
a quick look at the wikipedia tells me its relativly neutral (doesnt portray them with the 90% conviction rate they have, doesnt critique them validly)
hm, police force might be a bit unrealistic too…
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "quick important question..." msg] They arrested one on the first ep
Rumbybagg: in reality, the japanese police might not even consider a case like this
SR: A case like what?
No police was involved in the scene
Rumbybagg: they wouldnt take a murder case with no clear evidence
not even bother with it
Val: [replying to SRs "Don't call it mystery" msg] i'm gonna call it mystery
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] There is no police in the scene
They hired a detective
Rumbybagg: didnt you say they arrested somebody?
Val: marK a yen… a buCK or a pound… a buCK or a pound…. a buCK? or a pound? is all that makes the world go around… thank clinky… clanky souuuuund….
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] In the first ep yes. But that’s the 2nd ep
Val:
tumblr
Rumbybagg: girl im talking about the show in general
not that one scene/ep
SR: Idk, there is police involved but it’s focused on the MC solving crimes
Rumbybagg: which crimes
what typa crimes
murders?
petty thefts?
SR: Murder, murder, planting bombs, arson, robbing
Rumbybagg: yah the police would not even fucking bother with that, they'd just blame it on some homeless guy and call it a day
theres a reason the japanese police force has been critiqued since at least the early 2000s
SR: Police is portrayed as impotent yes, but what media doesn’t?
Except MIU-404 which is another show I rlly like abt police solving crimes
Val: i think rumby is talking abt irl….
irl is where they don't do shite
SR: Anyways it’s a show
And if it’s 100% realistic then I don’t think anyone would watch it
And there is no way one person would get involved in like 20 crimes
And solve all of them
Rumbybagg: hey so if a show about police solving crimes i want it to be realistic yes
SR: But it’s a show
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] It’s not
So don’t expect it to be realistic
Rumbybagg: thats such a stupid sentiment im sorry
im GOING to have expectations for a show
like i dont care?
Val: not to put words in her mouth but she may or may not have been asking bc she doesn't wanna watch a show that's like "oh gee thanks mr coppa!! saved the day once again, as always [tts "proud" emoji]" idk u can speak for urself girl #feminism
SR: I expect a show to entertain me
Val: i'm like on the verge of passing out [00:39 AM]
SR: And it works
So
SR: [replying to Vals last msg] Sleep
Val: no cus this is funny
SR: Anyways it’s a show I rlly like. There are unrealistic aspects because, it’s a show. But the deductions are pretty on point and the characters are super well written
Rumbybagg: [replying to vals "not to put words..." msg] yeah cuz the japanese police force needs heavy critiquing, one of the many joys of deathnote is the critique of japanese police
SR: Yeah, why do you think the MC is the one solving all the crimes?
Val: because he isn't on anti depressants he's on speed
i think the mc was a guy o don't remember 5 mins ago
SR: He critiqued 3 polices in the first ep
SR: [replying to vals last msg] Yeah
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "Yeah, why do you..." msg] is …. what do you mean by this
Val: i'll critique….PENIS!!!
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] I mean the show is about the MC.
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "He critiqued..." msg] oh can you do like, a litte transcript? maybe a short paraphrase
SR: If the police is solving all the crimes then the show is about the police
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs second to last msg] the main character is the main character [tt "happy" emoji]
Val: amigo is good with chinese politics
wait i didn't read any of that
Val: [replying to SRs second to last msg] WHAAAAT
is the mc a coppa
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "oh can you do..." msg] Actually 2 because one is just judging the police as a bad husband
Lemme explain
Rumbybagg: NOT A PARAGRAPH
5 LINES TOPS
SR: 1. There’s a police officer years ago who went on the news for falsely accusing a man. Kunou criticized his way of thinking about the crime
Val: rewrite the bible sr
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs last msg] okay so ig the show knows like a little introspection? but a policer officer wouldnt be aired out on the news like that i think, unless they were a scape goat for a larger problem
Val: that clinky clanky SOOOOUUUUNNND…. can make the world go around!!!
clanka
SR: 2. The police who killed someone to avenge his wife and daughter and tried to frame it on kunou. He tried to frame it on kunou but ultimately got exposed. Kunou judged him for overall neglecting his son and ignoring his wife as he barely went home and never spent time with them. But the moment they died, he spent a lot of time to find the murderer.
Val: [gibbering voice msg]
SR: I can’t explain it well in my words but it’s super moving
Val: [replying to SRs "2...." msg] [voice msg transcript] ("well wouldn't he not be able to... wouldn't he n-not be able to spend time at home with his [inhale] family because japan overworks their citizens...but then he can spend time finding the murderer because he's a fucking policeman... and thats kinda his job?")
Rumbybagg: i like when my shows have woke opinions on topics, but i guess thats too difficult for the writers to pull off
Val: i'm lowk confused
SR: Because for me, it focuses on the psychology of the people, what their motive is, and emotional aspects
Rumbybagg: thats great and all
SR: It doesn’t have to be realistic, just moving
And I like it
Same with MIU-404 and Legal High.
Actually made me sob and cry [edited]
Rumbybagg: but if its coupled with some centrist bullshit then it throws me off soooo hard
Val: [10x cumsplash emojis]
SR: Does a show need to be involved in politics to be interesting?
Val: [cumsplash emoji] [tts "proud" emoji] [cumsplash emoji]
Val: [replying to SRs last msg] ………………..huh
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs last msg] politics are about ideals. if a show portrays shitty ideals i dont like, im thrown off guard [edited]
Val: it's all political in some sense?? no??
Rumbybagg: yeah
media is inherently political
Val: [replying to rumbybaggs "politics are about ideals..." msg] apostrophe missing
Rumbybagg: in MANY ways
SR: [replying to vals "it's all political..." msg] Yes but if it’s like 5% political and I choose to focus on that part then uhhh
It’s not gonna be enjoyable
Val: ??
??????
Rumbybagg: this show involves cops and murder….. VERY POLITICAL
SR: Because maybe the show wasn’t meant to talk abt politics
Well, ig it’s not your show then [edited]
Val: the what
Rumbybagg: did you read what i wrote sr
Val:
[rumbybagg reacted with 🍅]
DON'T TOMATO HIM
imma be honest i don't even know what rebornica did…. i think she did??? something??? but i deadass don't know
by bet is on either racism or it involves kids somehow
Rumbybagg: i think those r good guesses
SR: Who’s rebornica?
Hold on lemme google it
Rumbybagg: [replying to rumbybaggs "this show involves.." msg] hold on lemme make a list of everything political in this shows wikipedia
[val started playing blockbuster on the discord app]
SR. Ah fnaf
Val: i can still taste to burger i had
ffffffyum
Val: [replying to SRs last msg] YOUR JORDANS ARE FAKE!!!!
Rumbybagg: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] "university student" "detectives" "murder" "high school" "crime"
6 lines of text, 5 political topics
Val: [voice msg of gibberish]
that's my commentary
💖
Rumbybagg: woah
Val: [replying to rumbybaggs second to last msg] she 6 on my lines till i text
OH MY GOD DRIVER'S LICENSE THEORY TMRW LET'S GO I WILL BE CLOSEE TO DRIVING THE DAMN CAR
SR: Yes, the police systems are unrealistic. But I think the show focuses on portraying Totonou’s views and way of thinking rather than portraying the law enforcement system accurately
Val: [😹but in large picture format]
SR: The show is abt people basically.
And people feeling sad makes me feel sad
Rumbybagg: hey so you can do both in a show, actually
SR: I hope it’s the same for you
Rumbybagg: theyre not mutually exclusive
SR: But they don’t.
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs second to last msg] you want me to feel sad just because others feel sad?
Val: [replying to SRs "And people feeling..." msg] i'm such an empath 🥹 #shanedawson
SR: So it’s not your show ig
Val: sr dovu like shane dawson
cus i love him
🫃🫃🫃
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "But they don't." msg] why do you think they dont? they have ample oppertunity to
genuine question
Val: [another gibbering voice msg]
A MARK A YEN A BUCK OR POUNT TBAT CLINKY CLANKY SOUND IS ALL THAT MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND
[cuttlefish gif]
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs question] Because I think the show focuses most on people. It is a detective show yes. But it doesn’t spend most time talking abt the law enforcement system because it wants to make us feel what the characters feel, makes us feel sympathy and empathy. If it tries to tackle both then it might rob the show of its original intent and makes it harder to connect with the character.
Val: i'm a flambouant cuttlefish twin…. come swim with me twin…. let's camouflage twin…
SR: If you don’t like it then it’s completely fine!
But that’s just what I think
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "Because I think..." msg] hey so theres a show from 2006 that accomplishes what you described here, and also critiques the japanese police
Val: [replying to the same msg] that doesn't mean it can't do both tho
starts twerking
twerk with me twin
Rumbybagg: [tiny tiny tiny amongus gif]
me
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "hey so theres a show..." msg] Just because it’s possible, doesn’t mean it’s necessary for every story. I don’t personally know that story. Some focuses on the characters, some focuses on the Japanese police or politics or whatever. And some both. I personally feel like trying to force them both into the same mold makes it distinct and less meaningful
Rumbybagg: hey so i actually think you are familiar with the show from 2006 im talking abt
i think you just dont think that critically
about these shows
do you wanna know?
do you wanna know… about the show??
SR: You have to think critically abt shows?!
Rumbybagg: from 2006
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs question] Uhh sure?
Val: [replying to SRs "You have to think..." msg] …yes…
SR: Oh
I don’t
Val: we know
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "Uhh sure?" msg] its death note…. the manga was written even earlier
SR: Probably why we have different tastes
SR: [replying to vals last msg] Is that wrong?
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "I don't" msg] and god is it so fucking obvious
(degrading) (bad)
SR: It’s wrong to not think critically abt shows???
Rumbybagg: yes??
thats part of being media literate [edited]
think critically of what you consume
its like the first step
Val: [replying to SRs last msg] not "wrong" i guess, it doesn't make you an abhorrent person… but it's good to think critically about the media you consume, because it makes you more aware of…like…everything….
SR: Honestly, I wanna watch shows to relax. And most times to cry because of the characters. I don’t want to think abt all the bad parts and just ruin my experience
And I don’t think it’s wrong for that.
Val: that's why it's also good to consume a wide range of media…gives a broader outlook on life and whatnot
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "Honestly, I..." msg] i have a show recommendation if you just wanna be numb to all the political stuff
Val: stare into a white wall
SR: Rumby, it’s okay to have different opinions
Val: 🙏🙏🙏🙏
SR: I like shows for entertainment, you might want to focus on politics and stuff
Val:
?
fat question mark
anyway @ Rumbybagg driving tut??? 🥹
Rumbybagg: do you want me to explain to you in detail why its not good to consume media without thinking critically about what you consume
Rumbybagg: [replying to vals last msg] what
no
not in my moms car
Val: 😞
i tryed
so…HARD AND GOT SO FAR….
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "do you want me to explain..." msg] If I do that then it’s gonna limit a lot of shows. And I don’t like that.
Val: AND IN THE END…
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTERRRR
SR: I wanna turn off my brain
And laugh and cry
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "If i do that..." msg] so youre just straight fucking admiting that the shows you watch have bad ideals
SR: Because if I don’t do that then I feel like it’s worse for my mental health
Val: [replying to rumbybaggs "do you want me to explain..." msg] yeah what if they start beign nazis or some shit
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "I wanna turn off my brain" msg] i have a great show for u buddy
wanna know?
Val: GOING
OUT
SIDE
Rumbybagg: y?
oh
Val: 😛😛
Rumbybagg: thought u said you were taking a walk at this hour
1 AM WALK LETS GOO
Val: that'd be lit but i don't have pants rn
busy jorking it
show us
Val: 🤨
Rumbybagg: 😛
Val: i wear boxers with like that heart pattern trust
Rumbybagg: [replying to own "i have a great show..." msg] anyways, cocomelon doesnt have ANY politics and also turns off the brains of people
Rumbybagg: [replying to vals last msg] WHERE CAN I GET THOSE THOUGH
Val: IDK I WANT TOO
Rumbybagg: if any store started selling them i think they'd immidiatly sell out
Val: [replying to rumbybaggs "anyways, cocomelon..." msg] i wad also gonna say peppa pig but they have an epidode where the frighinh queen of england is yherr
rumbybagg: oh man
Val: not even peppa is safe from the politics 😞😞😞
Rumbybagg: gumball is political…. ADVENTURE TIME HAS PB….. what else is there
Val: boss baby
Rumbybagg: no no capitalism
Val: wait lemme find the clip
youtube
IT'S SO FUNNY
WHAT
Rumbybagg: NOT BOSS BABY TOO
Val: [voice msg reinacting the video]
Rumbybagg:
okay so i think we have concluded, there are only 2 medias you can watch unpolitically
cocomelon
that one movie that was just paint drying, its like 2 hours long
SR: Oof.
Val: yeah :/
Rumbybagg: sorry sr
wait lemme find the paint drying movie
SR: Anyways I like the shows I watch
Val: sorry /j /hj /s /srs /p /r /ly /t /nm
SR: And it’s okay if you don’t like them for any reason
Rumbybagg: nvm its 10 hours long, not 2
SR: And people watch shows for different reasons. If you’re arguing that watching shows uncritically is bad then maybe argue in twitter or smn
Rumbybagg: arguing on twitter is literally ur thing thouuughh (ur an avid twitter user)
SR: Because there’s a lot of people that do that and there’s a lot of ppl that want to argue in twitter
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] I have never seen a person arguing on twitter
Rumbybagg: being blind on the internet is a brave move, sr
SR: Are you just straight up denying my experiences with smn?
Rumbybagg: [moistcritical gif]
Val: imma open twitter rn see if there's an argument
Rumbybagg: first post on my tl
SR: Oof no wonder
Rumbybagg: twitter is like..THE cesspool of stupid people arguing [same gif as before]
SR: No wonder why you argue with my opinions sm
Rumbybagg: ARE YOU SAYING IM ON TWITTER A LOT???? girl a BARELY use it
SR: My point is that I like this show and I want to share a particularly interesting scene to me
Val: FUCK i can't send the vid
SR: That’s it
Rumbybagg: and im just not supposed to have opinions ever?
Val: i screen recorder my timeline
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] You can have opinions but you aren’t respecting mines
You can have different opinions
Val: took 1:23
SR: Just remember that other ppl may have different opinions
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "You can have..." msg]tell me how am i disrespecting your opinion? like yea im telling you youre wrong cuz, thats my opinion
SR: I feel like that’s more of you wanting to invalidate my opinion…
But welp.
Feel free to do that while I enjoy shows I like
Rumbybagg: how so? point it out to me so i can be more validating in the future
im trying to better myself as a human being ,for u sr
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "how so?..." msg] Maybe be like “I disagree with that but I accept that other people have different opinions.”
Val:
this show is good what's it abt [plot] that's unrealistic why? (an asking of opinion) [explains] [counter] still unrealistic, [counter-counter] ok well it's still good so
🥹🥹🥹 if anything ur the one not respect opinions
SR: Because opinions arent anchored onto one person
I was defending a show I like 🥺🥺🥺
Rumbybagg: [replying to vals last msg] yeah, like what am i supposed to do
Val: make out idk
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "I was defending..." msg] saying "the show is still good, and its not for you then" is not defending
SR: It’s my opinion + knowing the show is not for you
Not saying you have to watch it
Val: Maybe be like “I disagree with that but I accept that other people have different opinions.”
SR: Isn’t that what I did?
Val: no
❤
Rumbybagg: tag urself where u did it
SR: The show is good for me
Rumbybagg: okay anyways
Val: BAZINGA
😛😛😛
ba- bazinga
[gif of army of spartan warriors as cats clanking their shields]
Rumbybagg: critical analysis is imporant to acknowldege when watching a show because it makes you less suseptible to propaganda
THERE
SR: I’ve only been speaking abt the show from my standpoint
Rumbybagg: okay
SR: Anyways
Gn
I’m gonna talk abt another show focused on police tmr
Val: is it copaganda
[buenos noches Hasta mañana gif]
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs second to last msg] My viewpoint in politics is that no one is right. That’s why I don’t believe in any propaganda and I don’t support any sides in wars.
Val: bro why does english not use an english translation of hasta mañana often
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs last msg] … are you a centrist
[tts "cute" emoji]
SR: # General-chat
[basically a link showing us to the general chatroom to continue talking]
SR: [now in general chat] Anyways let’s talk abt what I believe abt politics
Rumbybagg: sure
SR: I believe no one is right.
I have been subjected to both
China
And the uk’s politics
Both sides
Say different things
So I’ve learnt to not trust anyb
My parents support Russia and my school supports Ukraine
I support neither because do I have to?
Val: that's very… black and white
SR: If you disagree with me then fly to England and punch my parents in the face
Because it’s not my fault for having this view
It’s my parents
Rumbybagg: hm, what you seem to be experiencing is the distrust in authoritarian figures (governments, parents)
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "Because it's not my fault..." msg] girl ur 17
get yourself together
by now you have to take responsibility [edited]
Val: "both sides" there are more than two sides when it comes to politics… it is not "either u believe what the UK does or u believe in what china does" wha
nuance????
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] On politics??? I’m having trouble with my daily life I don’t have time for politics
Val: ur daily life IS politics
Rumbybagg: YAH
Val: u go to school, no? [edited]
Rumbybagg: cant afford uni?
POC?
Val: that's….. political
immigrant family too
Rumbybagg: also, the government uses tactics to busy you with daily life to make you numb to politics, dont give in
SR: I struggle to talk to ppl irl, I try to be outgoing but I yap a lot. I try to focus on my studies and stuff but that’s fucked up my relationships with ppl. I speak 3 languages and that’s fucked up all three of them because my brain can’t process speaking 3 languages each day
Val: "i yap a lot" we kno 😂😂
SR: “Because the government” shut up I hate the government
Val: that's also political…….
dot dot dot
ellipsis
Rumbybagg: if you hate the government then do something about it, be an anarchist
SR: Like???
Val: she just said smthn u can do
what
SR: I don’t have the time for allat
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "I struggle..." msg] also, i dont wanna put words in vals mouth, but val can speak 4 languages (exc. german cus he's shit at that) and he seems to be balancing it well
SR: I feel like you’re speaking like parents
“That kid can do it so why can’t you”
That’s what I’m thinking myself
Why can’t I???
Val: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] bitte??? 🤨 ich sprecht sehr gut deutch
Rumbybagg: NO YOU DONT GET OFF MY LAWN
Val: jaaa
das essen
SR: Why can’t I be Val and speak 4 languages properly?
Val: let's merge twin
SR: Because I’m not Val.
Rumbybagg: i feel like we've moved on from politics a bit
Val: ja danke
Rumbybagg: i cant answr your question though, thats for you to decide, do you want to speak 3 languages? thats your decision, just chose right, i guess
Val: ich liebe schwanz… ohhh… groß schwanz…
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] I use all 3 languages
I never tried to learn any
It just naturally came to me
So forgive me for having grammar errors speaking English
I’m trying
Val: yk what else came
Rumbybagg: my peanits
Val: 😝
[tts "happy" emoji] [2x cumsplash]
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "I struggle..." msg] anyways, do you wanna rant or do you want me to actually give my opinion on these topics?
Val: [8x sickle and hammer symbols]
Rumbybagg: cuz we can just sit here and listen idle i gues
Val: [silly tortoise emoji]
gang i'? awake again
Rumbybagg: woah
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "anyways, do you..." msg] I want you to realize I am not you or Val or anyone else and it’s normal for me to have a different viewpoint to other people because that’s everyone.
Rumbybagg: sure, i accept that you're ur own person
SR: Everyone can have different opinions.
Rumbybagg: now do you want my opinion on the other topics
SR: No I wanna watch my shows and cry about them.
Rumbybagg: we're talking about politics now sr
not ur show
the politics
SR: I’m saying I wanna leave this convo now
And watch shows I like
Rumbybagg: you started it though
SR: And cry abt them
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] And can I not end it? [edited]
Rumbybagg: well thats the thing
youre not really ending it, are you?
youre just…. running away [edited]
SR: What counts as “ending it” then?
Do we all have to have one opinion on politics?
Or can we agree that politics is confusing
And you can take any sides you want
Rumbybagg: not having an opinion on politics is still an opinion
SR: Or no sides
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] Not believing in god is still a belief
Rumbybagg: see? you get it
Val: yeah
Rumbybagg: also politics arent really confusing when you get into it imo
to me, it feels like zodiac signs
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs second to last msg] No??? It’s not a belief!!!
Rumbybagg: what
SR: Because you don’t believe anything
Rumbybagg: thats a belie
belief
SR: And you don’t require any faith to
Rumbybagg: atheism is a belief in the absence of a god
Val: [replying to SRs second to last msg] you believe in no god
Rumbybagg: thats a belief
theres a choice in inaction too
SR: [replying to vals last msg] Yes.
Val: …which is a belief
Rumbybagg: so thats a belief then?
correct
Val: a belief that there isn't a god/higher power
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "theres a choice..." msg] You know a baby is an atheist too right? Does that mean that they choose to believe in not believing in A god?
Val: a baby doesn't choose anything what
Rumbybagg: a baby cant even consent
Val: baby believes in crying and eating
Rumbybagg: and farting
SR: YES! And I haven’t chosen anything too
Rumbybagg: so youre a baby
?
SR: Where did that come from?
You’re twisting my words.
My point is I’ve not thought abt these stuff
Rumbybagg: well babies dont have autonomy, you in contrast do, and by not chosing YOU are making a choice
SR: Hence my position
Val: a baby's lack of belief is not the same as an atheist what
because babies aren't aware
SR: Isn’t an atheist just someone that has no belief in a higher power?
Rumbybagg: correct, a belief
SR: …
Val: a belief in no higher power
SR: Someone that has no belief
Rumbybagg: someone that has no belief, has belief in nothing
when we dont make a choice, we make a choice
Val:
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs second to last msg] You’re sounding like I make a conscious decision to believe in nothing
Rumbybagg: you are though, clearly
Val:
thinking god is real -> a belief thinking god isn't real -> also a belief
they're both subjective attitudes towards the existence of a higher power
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] Oml
Val: sorry if those words r too big 😞
SR: We clearly have different opinions
Can we end it here?
Because this is getting nowhere and it will never get anywhere
Rumbybagg: you decided to not have a stance on politics as a reaction to your enviroment, you said so yourself
Val: i'm getting somewhere 🤤🤤🤤🤤
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] No. I lost an opinion on politics which is not my choice. I’m confused on which side to take and that’s the result. It’s not a conscious decision
“Because do I have to?” No i don’t have to have a belief or an opinion in anything controversial
End of convo
I’m running away
Rumbybagg: who took your opinion on politics?
SR: To end this
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] You
You talked abt a show being political or smn
While I was talking abt how I enjoy it because of the ppl
And I wanna run away now
Rumbybagg: i made you apolitical?
SR: Because this is getting out of hand
Val: ??
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] No. I was born apolitical and I’ve been apolitical because I’ve been subjected to confusing political beliefs
So let me run away now
Rumbybagg: mmmm a political stance i see
'

Val: subjective attitudes towards how the world functions
SR: I feel like this is less abt politics
Val: AMIGO STOP MEOWING
SR: And more abt how we have different opinions on anything
Rumbybagg: opinions ARE politics
all politicians simply have opinions
SR: So if I like chocolate and you like fruits that’s politics?
Val: i have an armpit fetish
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs last msg] watch me make it political
SR: [replying to vals last msg] Good. That’s a good fetish. I don’t understand it but enjoy it all you want.
Rumbybagg: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] CHOCOLATE IS MADE BY SLAVES
there
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "watch me.." msg] Are you trying to start a fight?
Rumbybagg: is that a threat
SR: Not my intention
Rumbybagg: then why'd you say it?
SR: Because you want to make it political
Val: [replying to SRs "So if I..." msg] both parties have enough freedom and/or privilege to have experienced these foods, that in some places are considered luxuries (especially chocolate)
Rumbybagg: true!
SR: Anyways are we done with politics?
Rumbybagg: chocolate is a very political food
Val: let's all just fist guys 🥹
(comma excluded on purpose)
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs last msg] you asked girl, and boy do we deliver
SR: So how do we end it?
Val: fight
!!!!
SR: Do I have to admit that it’s a belief or opinion or smn?
Val: bitchfighr
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs last msg] you can admit it but it seems like you dont rlly understand the fundementals
SR: Rumby
Val: Rumby
SR: Excluding everything we’ve said so far
Can I say smn
Val: Rumby
Rumbybagg: you can run away like you tried to before but thats just also admitting that you were wrong and is afraid of what me and Val have to say
SR: Yes I’m wrong and I’m afraid
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs second to last msg] sure, ill exclude all said before
SR: Good
Convo done
Rumbybagg: didnt you wanna say sum?
SR: No, I wanted it to end
Rumbybagg: so youre a liar too
SR: Either by me running away, or me admitting it’s wrong, or anything else
Val: [replying to SRs "Convo done" msg] i hate to be that guy (no i don't) but that doesn't exclude everything previously said ☝🤓
it includes it
🤓🤓🤓🤓
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "Either by running...." msg] girl imma be so fr with you, this is the internet. you can just…. walk away from the puter, go outside, go to bed
i do it all the time
SR: THANK YOU!
Val: you had to wait for permission or whay
Rumbybagg: YOU DONT NEED MY PERMISSION TO DO IT THOUGH
Val: acting like we were handcuffing u to the puter
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] You pressured me into thinking it’s wrong to do so by wording it like
“Running away”
Rumbybagg: …
Val: ellipsis
Rumbybagg: YOU worded it like running away
SR: No, I wanted to end the convo
And all you had to do was say “okay” or smn
Rumbybagg: that implies that you need my permission either way
you dont need me to say anything sr
SR: I needed it for myself
I see everything in an emotional way
Rumbybagg: learn to be autonomous, learn to not need others permission, learn to be enough for YOU
SR: If I can’t accept it then what’s the point
Val: replying to SRs "No, I wanted..." msg]
gaslight gatekeep
SR: Yes I wanna end the convo by running away
And frankly you’re not helping Val
Rumbybagg: SR JUST GO YOU DONT NEED TO KEEP RESPONDING
just close the puter
Val: then run away?? 😭 it just ALSO means ur a coward who can't face the slightest pushback
Rumbybagg: yah
i do it all the time
SR: [repluing to rumbybaggs "SR JUST..." msg] Yeah but yall are just gonna continue and that’s not gonna make me at peace
Val: nobody was being aggressive
if that helps
Rumbybagg: also we're not gonna continue
Val: at least there was no ill intent
SR: Thank you Rumby
Rumbybagg: [king baldwin aura hand gif]
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Val: amigo is good with chinese politics
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SR: I mean I’ve seen a video recorder and a police light get sexualized
It’s a bit hot I gotta admit
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Rumbybagg: since anime inspired the artstyles of so many artists, shouldnt american cartoons (family guy, rick and morty) also have inspired a fuckton of artists? the reason for this is that american cartoons are ugly SR: Ya it’s prolly cuz Japan or Asian countries drew figures that are more two dimensional and less complex features while European artworks focus on more three dimensional, detail oriented art styles eg: Michelangelo, da Vinci. Which makes them evolve a cartoon artstyle where character’s facial features are sometimes exaggerated a bit which could look ‘ugly’ sometimes.
Rumbybagg: girl i never said european
SR:
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] 331 million ppl are of european origin in America
I’m just saying European art influenced American cartoons some bit
Rumbybagg: ethnicity doesnt determine artstyle
SR: I’m not saying ethnicity determines artstyle, I’m saying artstyle are influenced by the kind of media they consumed. Im not saying anything about ethnicity, I’m saying the environment they grew up in could influence their artstyle. Hence why modern shows like invincible have a more anime like style. Because modern ppl are exposed and influenced by anime when ppl maybe from like a decade or two ago might not have that much exposure.
Anyways I wouldn’t say American art styles are ‘ugly’. I think it’s up to the people to decide and I wouldn’t necessarily call it ‘ugly’ too.
But artistic influence goes both ways. Hence why modern Japanese artstyle may start depicting more European features
It’s just human growth
And it’s amazing
That’s why I like art
Rumbybagg: i want you to explain why extreme realism in europeans causes an artstyle shift in americans 500 years later
"European artworks focus on more three dimensional, detail oriented art styles eg: Michelangelo, da Vinci. Which makes them evolve a cartoon artstyle where character’s facial features are sometimes exaggerated" why does that happen? whats the correlation?
also micheal angelo was a sculptor, not a painter
imo modern american animation is just an evolved version of rubberhose animation, which was the first complex animation in western history (to my memory)
Val: i'm sorry but european productions rarely have the family guy art style too 💔💔💔 in my experience
SR: [replying to Rumbybaggs "also micheal angelo was a sculptor, not a painter" msg] ??
Oh yeah the photos didn’t send uhhh
Hold on
Rumbybagg: Micheal Angelo famously HATED painting
SR:
Val: [replying to rumbybaggs "also micheal angelo was a sculptor, not a painter" msg]
SR: Yeah uhh
Val: but he still did it
SR: [replying to Vals picture] Thanks Val I love you sm
Let’s get married
Actually no I’m grossed out
Rumbybagg: he did it yeah, but he famously fucking hated doing it so i wouldnt call him a painter
Val: yeah but he still painted, so it isn't too much of a reach to call him a painter
Rumbybagg: if i hated my job i wouldnt want the title that the job would give me
Val: there's a difference between wanting that and observing that [edited]
Rumbybagg: anyways,
@ SR im still waiting for you to explain the connection you're making
Val: yeah doesn't make sense
also there was no mention of classical japanese art, it was anime
SR: [replying to Rumbybaggs david sculpure vs. family guy pic] Also I feel it’s a bit far fetched
Val: classical art is irrelevant here
Rumbybagg: [replying to SR's last msg] THATS WHAT IM SAYING
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "still waiting..." msg] Yeah hold on
Have you seen marvel comics?
Val: [replying to SR's "it's a bit far fetched" msg] you're the one making that point 💔💔
SR: I would say they are quite influenced by classical paintings
Val: MARVEL COMICS R IRRELEVANT??N?:!!'ND
irrelevant
Rumbybagg: [replying to SR's "have you seen..." msg] comics and animation are very different lol
irrelevant
SR: Yeah that’s why they developed a more simple style for animation. Styles have gotten simpler, and Japanese animation has gotten popular.
In conclusion, American cartoons have adapted simpler art styles
Val: ?????
lemme send the original msg hold on
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs FIRST msg] This?
Val: i feel we've strayed far from this
Rumbybagg:
SR: Ah right sorry I missed the point
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs delulu meme] Also I feel like that’s really unnecessary if you’re trying to be civil
If not then uhhhh
I can’t rlly do anything about it
Rumbybagg: do you have anything else to add to this conversation or are you done yapping about european art in an american art discussion
SR: Yeah no I don’t
Rumbybagg:
SR: I’m gonna go comment on a boykisser art my friend sent me
Anyways last thing I wanna says about this uhhhhhhhh
Rumbybagg:
Val: ugh rumby that's not civil
Rumbybagg: im a straight pred like dat, huh
Val: [voice msg voiceacting what rumbybagg said] [rumbybagg reacted with tt's "cute" emoji]
SR: Ykw nvm
Val: [voice msg voiceacting what SR said, except its just the letters not the words]
SR: Also after some googling I feel like it has influenced some
Just all American cartoons
Val: what has
Rumbybagg: show ur sourced sr
SR: These influenced eachother. If you have to ask where they come from then ig it’s a mix of art styles like scooby doo and Disney cartoon characters like Mickey Mouse. The rest is just a bunch of creative outbursts from artists
The boondocks is just heavily influenced by anime
Rumbybagg: hol on hold on, what makes an animation "anime" to you?
SR: Also could you stop posting memes next time if you’re trying to talk
Rumbybagg: oh sorry, i'll post them in the correct channel next time dw
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "hol on hold on,..." msg] Anime is just more commonly known as ‘Japanese animation’ but by definition it’s just a simplified way of saying animation
Rumbybagg: so why cant the boondocks be anime?
SR: It can
If enough ppl agree
Ppl even say avatar isnt an anime
Go argue with them
It’s not my opinion
Rumbybagg: but you're relaying and repeating that opinion
SR: Because that’s what I’m used to
Rumbybagg: if its not your opinion why repeat it like it is?
Rumbybagg: [replying to SR's last msg] get a backboneeee bro
Val: [replying to rumbybaggs "so why cant the boondocks be anime?" msg] idk i learned that whatever "anime" is is just completely up to personal interpretation, same reason why it isn't considered a "cartoon"… it's just because its NOT, even tho it fits the definition 💔💔💔
Rumbybagg: yah 🥀
SR: Also rumby
After just like 5 seconds of googling I found this.

Sure it originated as a simplified version of “animation”
But uhhhh
Val: then just say it's not anime bc it's not japanese 🥀🥀🥀 not bc "everyone else says so"
Rumbybagg:
Val: [voice msg] gang we strayed from the original conversation again... gang!
[now text] gang!!!
SR: A style of “Japanese film and television animation”
Val:
gna play mw 2009
Rumbybagg: [replying to vals last voice msg] this shyt keeps happening bro
Val:
okay topic
anime > influences many art styles, even in the western world american (often adult) cartoons > influence to a way lesser degree in the western world
conclusion: it's aesthetics
there
wow
so fast
Rumbybagg: waoh
Val: you're welcome ladies
[3x tt proud emojis]
Rumbybagg:
Val: get those yanks OUTTA HEREEE
SR: [replying to vals "okay topic" msg] So avatar is an anime?
Rumbybagg: i think so
SR: Anyways there is no fixed definition because
Human opinions
So just go by your own definitions
If you disagree with someone because different opinions, then just know it’s up to interpretation
Val: [replying to SR's "so avatar is an anime?" msg] i'd say anime is kind of a redundant label, like k-pop or j-pop, because what separates them from everything else (definitionally speaking) is geography
Rumbybagg: people think avatar and boondocks arent anime cuz they feature people of color [tt cute emoji]
Val: i love yanks
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] So Gantz isnt a manga because it has black ppl?!?!
Val: [replying to SRs "so avatar is an anime?" msg] also how the hell do u get that from what i wrote
SR: “It’s aesthetics”
Am I wrong?
Anyways Gantz is a manga
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "So Gantz ..." msg] me when i cant understand an argument stemming from a point of view neither of us agree with:
SR: And poc does not influence its media
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] It’s sarcasm
I agree with you
Val: [replying to SR reply "it's aesthetics" msg] many non japanese artists choose to go the anime route when drawing because it's more aesthetically pleasing than american cartoons, what does this have to do with avatar being an anime or not [edited]
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs lat msg] okay to have complete clarity, what part do you agree with?
SR: Everything
Rumbybagg: sure whatever
uhm
Val: sorry if that's too many words sr
SR: Anywyas
Val: i tried writing it simply with arrows but that also seemed to be too many [edited]
SR: Wanna see the
Rumbybagg: elaborate on this one, please?
SR: Boykisser my friend drew?
Rumbybagg: [replying to vals "sorry if thats too many .." msg] no sr thrives on too many words
Val: no
SR: It’s super good
Val: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] only if they're from her 🥀🥀🥀🥀
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "elaborate..." msg] What else do I have to elaborate?
Val: i love yanks i love yanks i love yanks i love yanks i love yanks i love yanks i love yanks i love yanks i love yanks i love yanks i love yanks
SR: What’s yanks?
Val: north americans
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "What else do I..." msg] sr… do you really think media isnt influenced by some characters being poc?
[old man dystopia emoji]
SR: Are you disagreeing? Because I’m saying if an anime has black ppl, it’s still an anime. If an American cartoon has all its characters as Japanese, it’s still an American cartoon.
Race doesn’t matter
Rumbybagg: oh, you just worded it poorly
SR: It’s a perfectly pacifistic thing to say
There is nothing wrong at all
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] Yes about that I’m sorry
And can you not post memes next time to belittle someone
It’s not really something a good person should do
Unless you’re not
Which if you are then stay like that
Or change
Rumbybagg: you dont get to decide whos a good person and who isnt
SR: Not something I can do
Rumbybagg: do you think you have the authority to determine who's good and who's bad?
SR: I can’t and I don’t but my inner morality can do it to a certain extent
Also who can?
Police and government and the justice system could be corrupted
Rumbybagg: sr discovers that the justice system is corrupt… more at 8
SR: I don’t need a license or any kind of authority to determine when someone is trying to belittle me when I see one. And is mocking and belittling someone not a bad thing?
I mean banter is a thing
Rumbybagg: sr this world isnt as black and white as you seem to want it to be atm
SR: But I don’t feel like it’s banter if it’s
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] Answer me.
Rumbybagg: which question?
SR: The last question I asked.
Rumbybagg: "And is mocking and belittling someone not a bad thing?" not necessarily, a large amount of comedy shows flurish on this kind of thing
SR: Even when the other person don’t like it? Sounds like bullying to me. If you don’t see the difference between fiction and real life, then I can’t help.
Rumbybagg: thats rich coming from you, bud
Val: is that why u like shotas [rumbybagg reacted with 🅱️🅰️🇸 🇪 🇩]
SB: [irrelevant drawing] Bod 😛
Rumbybagg: ooo hottie alert!
SR: [replying to vals "is that why u like shotas" msg] Yeah I’m a shitty person. But at least I’m not willing to hurt anyone
I won’t try to intentionally harm anyone or cause sadness
Rumbybagg: if you're not willing to hurt anyone then your inaction will cause pain. we didnt defeat nazi germany through peaceful protest
SR: You’re trying to compare morals to a literal war?
That’s a large gap in logic
Rumbybagg: [replying to SBs drawing] i like how you gave her (?) some pudge around the waist, more realistic that way!
SR: I’m trying to talk about human morals, and you’re talking about WW2 to justify being cruel to others.
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs second to last msg] if you seperate morals from war you will have fighting done by cowards and thinking done by fools
SR: [replying to SBs drawing] How did you use whiteboard fox? Last time I remember you needed to sign in or smn
Rumbybagg: [replying to Rumbybaggs last msg]
Val: [replying to SBs drawing] is this u sb
Val: [replying to SRs "yeah i'm a shitty person" msg] idk what ur talking abt that shit shit does hurt ppl
there's a reason it's considered cp here
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs second to last msg] Rumby, are you trying to justify literal bullying by talking about WW2?
Rumbybagg: the quote is from a greek man by the name of Thucidides "The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
Morals and war are inherently tied
WW2 is an extreme example i agree but you dont seem to understand either way
SR: Rumby, I need you to listen to me.
Mocking people
Is bad.
It’s a rlly simple thing
But it seems like you don’t understand it.
Rumbybagg: i understand i just dont care what you think
SR: So you don’t
Rumbybagg: i dont what?
SR: Understand.
Rumbybagg: i understand i just dont care what you think
simple
you could make the argument that mocking a person is bad, but you can just as easily make the argument that mocking a persin is justified
its situational
not black and white
SB: [replying to rumbybaggs "i like how..." msg] Exactly!! The moment i added it to the waist it made everything a thousand times better!
SB: [replying to SRs "how did you use ..." msg] Nah u don't have to
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] Yes. But refusing to have a civil conversation when you can and resorting to mocking isnt justified.
SB: [replying to Vals "is this u sb?" msg] Yes [tt cute emoji]
SR: [replying to SBs "nah you dont have to" msg] Imma try rn
Rumbybagg: [replying to SBs "exactly!!!..." msg] i love seing the way my body stores fat depicted in art ! teehee
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "Yes. But refusing..." msg] - in your opinion 🤷♂️
SB: [replying to rumbybaggs second to last msg] Proof that fat in the proper places makes everyone hotter [tt proud emoji]
Rumbybagg: fat makes everyone hotter
I LOVE FAT BITCHES
SB: HELLS YEAH
Make a Quote bot:
Rumbybagg: HELL YAH
Rumbybagg: [replying to own "in your opinion" msg] also i dont really gaf about my conversations being "civil", that kind of criteria will limit any conversation between any two people, because who really decided whats civil and what isnt? hm
Val: we're on discord bro 🥀🥀🥀🥀
Rumbybagg: yah lol
is my conversation with sb and his fat dick supposed to be civil? nah, imma ravage that shyt
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "even when the other person..." msg] is that why u like shotas?
SR: I’m a bad person for it.
Rumbybagg:
Val: that's crazy
what's the youngest u'll go @ SR
Rumbybagg: 3 billion years old but 4 ft 2
SR: Is that something appropriate for you to ask?
Val: i think so yeah
trying to bond here
SR: Thank you for that but I feel that it’s not appropriate to answer it.
May peace be with you
Val: can iguess
12
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs last msg] star wars refrence
Val: 10???
Rumbybagg: nono
3 billion years old but 4 ft 2
Val: appearance-wise
Rumbybagg: mm yes
Val: 8
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "star wars..." msg] Never watched it
Rumbybagg: neither did i bud
Val: sr beware it might be considered cp in the uk too
6
Rumbybagg: is it above or below 10 sr
Val: r they pubescent or is that too old
if they're like 16 it doesn't count brochacho that's just being attracted to ur age range
Rumbybagg: wait because sr is a bad person cuz of the shotacon stuff i can make a meme about it this time
yyyaayy
SR: how long are you going to drag this on?
Val: until u answer the question
is 6 too low
SR: Then never because it’s not appropriate.
Val: plz
Rumbybagg: girl nothing in this server is appropraite look at the name
stop censoring urself
Val: rumby i'm gonna unalive u
Rumbybagg: dont commit sewer slide
Val: 🙁🙁🙁🙁
Rumbybagg:
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs "girl nothing in this server..." msg] So you’re gonna make this place a lawless place where basic respect and safety is nonexistent?
Val: isn't that what it started out as
Rumbybagg: im not gonna do anything, cuz that was always how it was here
Val: WE LOST THE PLOT
🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀
sr let's switch roles plz i was way less annoying as a puritan
Rumbybagg: sr youre the only one trying to implement rules about respect and safety
Val: i think she likes 11
Rumbybagg: point to me where does it say respect and safety
Val: let's bring dæ back
trust he'll fix it
Rumbybagg: he blocked me so can someone else send him an invite
SR: After what happened? No
I think it’s healthier for him too
To be away from here
Val: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] NAHH imaginr he'll get vietnam ptsd [rumbybagg reacted with DÆ emoji, Val and Rumbybagg reacted with vietnam flag]
SR: New icon is his artwork
Or pfp
The friend that drew boykisser that I was talking about
Rumbybagg: conversation: SUCCESSFULLY DERAILED
Val: i lobe vietnam
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs "So you're gonna make..." msg] me when i make up rules and guidelines on the spot
SR: Rumby, is respecting another person just nonexistent for you?
Genuine question about you
Rumbybagg: respect needs to be earned, i dont give out respect freely
SR: [[irrelevant stuff]]
Rumbybagg: and respect needs to be kept alive, you can earn my respect but you also have to keep being eligible for my respect
obv i expect others to have the same mindset, but i know some people give out respect like whores
Val: [replying to SRs "The friend..." msg] does he like them young too
Val: [replying to SRs irrelevant stuff] spurgt
Rumbybagg: we actually did ask her once about it but it was under diff context, hm
Val: that what
her friend a boylover
SR: What’s wrong with that?
Val: wait hold on let me be a dick
SR: Also I get that respect should be earned, but basic kindness and not belittling or mocking others shouldn’t depend on how much you respect them. You can hold someone accountable and still treat them with a little bit of decency. Being rude just because you don’t respect someone feels more like wanting to hurt than setting boundaries. It just seems really unnecessary and has no merits.
Val: @ SR fiction and reality are different, but the way someone acts with fiction reflects on their character. if you're attracted to a drawing of a kid, you're attracted to the idea of a kid.
[irrelevant gif]
SR: Yes. I’m a bad person and deserves nothing.
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs second to last msg] it was you who brought up respect vro 💔
Val: lowest i'd go is 16 idk abt y'all
SR: [replying to rumbybaggs last msg] And what’s wrong with what I said there?
Val: kill everyone NOW!!!
SR: Please don’t
Val: too… LATE
i did it
mmmmm… hairdryer or no
yes
no
i'm lazy
Rumbybagg: [replying to SRs last msg] you're the one mistaking rude-ness and inappropriate-ness for lacking respect
not me
Val: [replying to SRs "Also i get that..." msg] i'm not gonna be kind to someone who jerks off to and/or tolerates others jerking off to anime kids 🥀🥀🥀
sorey brochacho
i have integrity
Rumbybagg: yah
Val: mmm… time to see daddy roach again
Rumbybagg: especially when, from your wording sr, it seems like youre still a shotacon
(not good)
heres an explanation
sr im going to make a small rant that you will surely hate
i feel that its rich of you to demand i stop doing something just because it hurts your feelings and that you yourself say is bad, and then turn around and admit that you are doing something bad, imo way worse, and not even attempt to stop yourself
its hypocritical
Val: also idk abt y'all but it makes me uncomfortable as hell as 1. a normal person and 2. someone who's gone thru csa [edited]
that that shit gets defended
Rumbybagg: yah, like its not really acceptable to be able to acknowledge how bad a thing you do is, and then keep doing it
Val: not rly a fan of such a deeply traumatizing experience fetishized and/or defended
Rumbybagg: yah, its insensitive, and really lacking respect from someone who preaches about respect and not hurting others
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SR: Uhh I don’t know if this is the right place to say this but let me clear up a misconceptions abt shotacon. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS A SHOTACON, DOESNT MEAN THEY NATURALLY WANT TO ATTACK EVERY SHOTA THEY SEE!! it’s just like other sexuality’s, being homosexual, pansexual, it doesn’t mean ppl want to attack every single men and women. Get that right. Idk abt lolicons but you gotta ask them that.
Okay, one thing off my chest, Merry Christmas NN: Just say u like em young looking 👨🦲 Rumbybagg: What even is a shotacon anyways?? And what do you mean by "attack"?
SR: Oh ya it’s just a more mild way of saying sa
Rumbybagg: Ohhhh
But whats a shotacon
Actually no wxplain shota @ SR explain the word "shota"
SR: Young boys, mostly in a Japanese Anime art style. Don’t judge plz
Rumbybagg: By young boys… do you mean underage boys?
Be honest…
Val: ewwww
Rumbybagg: SR DO YOU NOT REALIZE THAT ALL SEX ANY LEGAL PERSON IS HAVING WITH AN UNDERAGE BOY IS SA??? Or as you say "attack"
Val: SR……… if ur attracted to underage boys ur age (CUS UR UNDERAGEEEEE) then it's just being gay if they are or appear to be like 12, however…….
Rumbybagg: Shotacon is just another word for homosexual pedo at this point
Val: honest
Rumbybagg: Pedophilia isnt a sexulity
Val: nonono
Rumbybagg: ITS A CRIME
Val: wouldn't trust a kid near someone who likes those, fictional or not [edited]
it's gross
Rumbybagg: Yea….
SR: [replying to Rumbybaggs "SR DO YOU NOT REALIZE ..." msg] Did u not read anything I said
SR: [replying to Vals last msg] I mean ya reasonable
Val: the creepy teacher at my boarding school liked loli stuff 🦠🦠🦠
or likes
Rumbybagg: [replying to SR's "Did u not read anything I said"] You said that a shota is a "young boy" but you also said that a shotacon is a sexuality and that shotacons dont SA all the time
Val: he didn't exactly have a redemption arc from what i know
Rumbybagg: But those two are conflicting
Val: even if they don't SA them, still fucking gross to be attracted to the concept of kids
Rumbybagg: Yea, and sexuality implies sex, which cant happend if the other party is underage, cuz then it aint sex anymore because an underage person cant legally consent
SR: Ya which is why I will never have any kind of relationship with any living thing
Rumbybagg: Huhhhhh????
Val: sr WHAT
Rumbybagg: Sr… you will be legal ONE DAY
Val: u wanna fuck lil boys??????
Rumbybagg: And two underage parties can sometimes consent to eachother and it be legal
SR: [replying to Vals last msg] No
Val: then what??????is your point???(?
NN: Nonsexual attraction i think
👨🦲
SR: I find them cute, extremely cute, but not to the degree to see them sexually
More of a maternal thing
Val: THEN UR NOT A SHOTACON?????
Rumbybagg: Bro just feels a lot of brotherly/fatherly love
Val: sr…….. shotacon is NAWT a paternal thing……
😭😭😭😭😭
Rumbybagg: Val ia eight
Right
NN: Val is eight.
Val: i'm eight 😃
NN: Im reporting u to the discord authorities
Val: running away fro shotacons now
Rumbybagg: Shotacon victim
#at this time SR still went by he/him#tw shotacon#tw shota mention#shota#shotacon#this was the 25th of december 2024 btw
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Val:
DÆ: slay queen
Val: 🧍
SB: [replying to Vals first image]
Val: penis
DÆ: [replying to SB] yes
SB:
Val:
SB:
DÆ: [replying to SBs second to last msg] sure thing
Val: chicken
DÆ: B
Val: no
chicken
DÆ: no it's B
Val: no
chicken
nothing else
DÆ: no, B
Val: chicken
DÆ: B
Val: 🐣
DÆ: 🅱️
Val:🐤
DÆ: [replying to SBs last msg]
DÆ: [replying to Vals last msg] 🇧
Val: 🐔
DÆ: B
Val: 🐓
DÆ: IT'S LITTERALY B
Val: chicken better
DÆ: chicken is wrong
Val: chicken never wrong
DÆ: this time it is
Val: naw
DÆ: yah
Val: noh
🙄
DÆ: yoh
Val: naur
DÆ: yaur
Val: nej
DÆ: ja
Val: nei
DÆ: ja
Val: næ
DÆ: jæ
Val: nein
DÆ: ya
Val: no (but in spanish)
DÆ: si
Val: non
DÆ: oui
Val: nope
DÆ: yup
Val: no (but in italian)
DÆ: yes (but in italian)
Val: nie
DÆ: tak
Val: iie
DÆ: yes (but in whatever language that was)
Val: não
DÆ: yes
Val: nu
DÆ: yu
Val: nej (but swedish)
DÆ: ja
Val: Нет
DÆ: I will win because of facts
да
Val: óchi 😈
DÆ: i'm literally speaking facts
Val: mm
nee
😈⁉️
DÆ: yee
ur literally wrong, give up
Val: لا
DÆ: yes
Val: muahaha
না
DÆ: give tf up, you will not win
Val: A’a
this shit is mad funny
DÆ: i will win
Val: tidak
DÆ: i will win
Val: 不是
DÆ: yes
you can't argue
Val: होइन
DÆ: yes
Val: ਨਹੀ
DÆ: I win
Val: mana
DÆ: I win
Val: ఏ
DÆ: I win
Val: -. ---
DÆ: I win
Val:
heehe
DÆ: yes
if you don't want me to win, too bad
I will win no matter what
Val: bm8=
base64 my beloved ❤❤
DÆ: i will win
Val: 6e 6f
DÆ: yes
Val: xy
DÆ: yes
Val: 01110 01111
DÆ: yes
Val: 14 15
DÆ: yes
Val:
DÆ: you literraly want me to not use bigotry, and yet you leave me with no choices?
Val:
Val: [replying to DÆs last msg] wtf
DÆ: I say facts and lose, so wtf do I do
Val: ??
were we arguing?
like legit?
DÆ: yes
Val: i thought we were joking damn
DÆ: [replying to Vals OG "chicken" msg] this is the letter b, it's a pokemon known as unown b as it's a sentient letter of the latin alphabet, if you disagree, you're wrong, and I will use everything to make you agree
Val: jesus taking it lil seriously 🙏🙏
DÆ: lil
NN: [irrelevant tt] My humkr is broken
Wtf did u just argue about
DÆ: the fucking letter B
NN: Thats the dumbest thing ive seen in my life
DÆ: indeed
NN: you
You rlly need understand sarcasm
Argue with people that dont even know its an argument makes u look dumb af
Val: [replying to NNs "Wtf did u just argue about" msg] honestly
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As of 25th of july 2025
Rumbybagg: co-owner of the archive, known in screenshots as Grub Grimes (she/all), danish, 18, queer
Val: other co-owner of the archive, known in screenshots as semáforo or deleted user (he/they), faroe-columbian, 17, trans-queer
NN: co-owner of the server, known in screenshots as the color brown-bordeux (he/him),israelite [NOT zionist], 20, pansexual
SR: former co-owner of the server, known in screenshots as the color pink (she/her), brittish-chinese, 17, queer ambiguous trans
DÆ: former member of the server, known in screenshots as the color white (he/they), lithuanian, 20, bisexual
NE: member of the server, known in screenshots as the color yellow (he/him), unknown nationality, 18-19 ish, queer
SB: member of the server, known in screenshots as the color blue (he/him), iraqi, 20, mega faggot
Cock: member of the server, known in screenshots as red (she/her), danish, 17, lesbian
Server birth: 16/01/2022
#general info abt the members#before the edit SB was just described as a faggot#next tumblr sexyman will be SB trust
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DÆ:

SR: @DÆ ur pretty
DÆ: 😳
SR: yes [lipbite emoji]
DÆ: Me pretty?😳😳
SR: Yes 😋
DÆ: 😳😳😳
SR: 😍😍😍
DÆ: ???
SR: !!!
[irrelevant pic]
NN: Sometimes that amount of gayness gives me cancer
DÆ: What
SR: O-o
SR: Cansa
NN: Ball cansa
DÆ: [replying to NNs first msg] have you seen your own convos with NE?
NN: Our gayness isnt cringe 🥱
DÆ: dude, wtf
DÆ: wdym your gayness isnt cringe
NN: Exactly what i mean
DÆ: apply normal logic first [val reacts with 🤓☝️]
tf gayness = cringe
then ur gayness = cringe
NN: I didnt say gayness=cringe
DÆ: well then why your convos with NE not giving you 20 different kinds of cancer
NN: Cuz its not cringe 🙄
DÆ: dude
why
am I
the worst person alive
DÆ: [replying to NNs last msg] wdym
literally no logic
NN: No u
DÆ: i'm not your fucking toy
stop messing with my head
and making me look bad
NN: ???
DÆ: IF GAYNESS GIVES U CANCER THEN WHY ARENT YOUR EXTREME GAYNESS WITH NE NOT GIVING YOU CANCER
NN: Bcs theres ironical gayness and unironical
SR: Why argue over gayness
When we can all be gae
NN: idk
DÆ: i swear to the fucking big bang
NN: The big bang i did to ur mom 😩😩😩 [val reacted with 🦐]
DÆ: [replying to SR last msg] bcs he can't keep getting away with this
SR: O-O
DÆ: [replying to NNs last msg] ok
i'll fucking scorched earth myself
NN: No idea what that means but bon appettit?
DÆ: bcs ur a fucking hypocrite
NN: Well thats just rude
DÆ: facts aint rude
NN: Then how come i am rude if all i ever say is facts
DÆ: bcs this is physically impossible
NN: It is just not foe you
DÆ: yeah
Val: damn y'all arguing over gayness
DÆ: bcs i'm the only special snowlake in this world that doesn't get all the benefits of being a massive dick to everybody how convenient
NN: Real
Val: [replying to DÆs last msg] idk abt that my man
NN: But you are a massive dick to everyone
DÆ: withouth all the benefits
DÆ: like I want to be one anyways
SR: Damn, idk what to do to dis
NN: Then just dont
SR: How I stop it
NN: It'll stop on its own at some point
SR: Ok
NN: Or when i get tired of typing
SR: I'll just hope it will end peacefully
DÆ: [answers to NNs "then just dont"] no, you stop, stop telling me some bs, why can't you listen to me, i'm always the bad guy
stop making my life worse
stop taking everything away from me
NN: Ur doing it yourself dont blame it on me
DÆ: idc
i dont want to care
i should not care
bcs in the end nothing will change while im still breathing
ur the one messing with my head all the time
Rumbybagg: damn, things getting hot in the gay fandom
NN: No if you havent noticed all i say saracsm and facts
DÆ: [replying to Rumbybaggs last msg] ITS NOT ABOUT GAYNESS
NN: [replying to Rumbybaggs last msg] #radiotime
DÆ: [replying to NNs "No if you havent noticed all i say saracsm and facts"] I always the good person
I always was a good person
NN: Youre messing with your own head so please stop blaming me on your own problems
DÆ: then everyone has to come in and fuckign ruin everything
Val: [replying to Rumbybagg] i love the gay fandom
DÆ: no one wants to treat me seriously
nothing helps me
no amount of distractions help me
Val: skill issue
DÆ: FINE I LEAVE YOU HAPPY NOW
get it funny, i'm your fucking funny clown
it always has to end like this, it wouldn't be fair otherwise
i deserve all of this
Val: [irrelevant will wood video]
señor white
voy a poner musica
Rumbybagg: mr. white
DÆ: I deserve to loose everything again and again, no one will love me, therapy wight as well be a bunch of drugs, nothing will save me, and I can only break down to everyone's amusement. [edited]
Val: do drugs #luigigotbigtits
Rumbybagg: mr. white makes drug, i think
Val: i love mr white [walter white emoji]
DÆ: why is it so hard to just be alone again when I was happy being by myself before anyone noticed me
Val: ok anyways
can anybody recite the bible in japanese
Rumbybagg: no, can you?
Val: [bible in japanese]
Rumbybagg: holy shit
SR: BRUH DANNY LEFT
Rumbybagg: lmao?
SR: No
Rumbybagg: didnt actually expect it
SR: It's not funny [edited]
Rumbybagg: sorry
Val: [continues with japanese bible]
#the misspellings are to be accurate to source material#although i can see we by accident corrected some spelling mistakes mb gng
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As of 25th of july 2025
Rumbybagg: co-owner of the archive and server, known in screenshots as Grub Grimes (she/all), danish, 18, queer
Val: other co-owner of the archive, known in screenshots as semáforo or deleted user (he/they), faroe-columbian, 17, trans-queer
NN: co-owner of the server, known in screenshots as the color brown-bordeux (he/him),israelite [NOT zionist], 20, pansexual
SR: former co-owner of the server, known in screenshots as the color pink (she/her), brittish-chinese, 17, queer ambiguous trans
DÆ: former member of the server, known in screenshots as the color white (he/they), lithuanian, 20, bisexual
NE: member of the server, known in screenshots as the color yellow (he/him), unknown nationality, 18-19 ish, queer
SB: member of the server, known in screenshots as the color blue (he/him), iraqi, 20, mega faggot
Cock: member of the server, known in screenshots as red (she/her), danish, 17, lesbian
Server birth: 16/01/2022
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14/08/2022
DÆ:

SR: @DÆ ur pretty
DÆ: 😳
SR: yes [lipbite emoji]
DÆ: Me pretty?😳😳
SR: Yes 😋
DÆ: 😳😳😳
SR: 😍😍😍
DÆ: ???
SR: !!!
[irrelevant pic]
NN: Sometimes that amount of gayness gives me cancer
DÆ: What
SR: O-o
SR: Cansa
NN: Ball cansa
DÆ: [replying to NNs first msg] have you seen your own convos with NE?
NN: Our gayness isnt cringe 🥱
DÆ: dude, wtf
DÆ: wdym your gayness isnt cringe
NN: Exactly what i mean
DÆ: apply normal logic first [val reacts with 🤓☝️]
tf gayness = cringe
then ur gayness = cringe
NN: I didnt say gayness=cringe
DÆ: well then why your convos with NE not giving you 20 different kinds of cancer
NN: Cuz its not cringe 🙄
DÆ: dude
why
am I
the worst person alive
DÆ: [replying to NNs last msg] wdym
literally no logic
NN: No u
DÆ: i'm not your fucking toy
stop messing with my head
and making me look bad
NN: ???
DÆ: IF GAYNESS GIVES U CANCER THEN WHY ARENT YOUR EXTREME GAYNESS WITH NE NOT GIVING YOU CANCER
NN: Bcs theres ironical gayness and unironical
SR: Why argue over gayness
When we can all be gae
NN: idk
DÆ: i swear to the fucking big bang
NN: The big bang i did to ur mom 😩😩😩 [val reacted with 🦐]
DÆ: [replying to SR last msg] bcs he can't keep getting away with this
SR: O-O
DÆ: [replying to NNs last msg] ok
i'll fucking scorched earth myself
NN: No idea what that means but bon appettit?
DÆ: bcs ur a fucking hypocrite
NN: Well thats just rude
DÆ: facts aint rude
NN: Then how come i am rude if all i ever say is facts
DÆ: bcs this is physically impossible
NN: It is just not foe you
DÆ: yeah
Val: damn y'all arguing over gayness
DÆ: bcs i'm the only special snowlake in this world that doesn't get all the benefits of being a massive dick to everybody how convenient
NN: Real
Val: [replying to DÆs last msg] idk abt that my man
NN: But you are a massive dick to everyone
DÆ: withouth all the benefits
DÆ: like I want to be one anyways
SR: Damn, idk what to do to dis
NN: Then just dont
SR: How I stop it
NN: It'll stop on its own at some point
SR: Ok
NN: Or when i get tired of typing
SR: I'll just hope it will end peacefully
DÆ: [answers to NNs "then just dont"] no, you stop, stop telling me some bs, why can't you listen to me, i'm always the bad guy
stop making my life worse
stop taking everything away from me
NN: Ur doing it yourself dont blame it on me
DÆ: idc
i dont want to care
i should not care
bcs in the end nothing will change while im still breathing
ur the one messing with my head all the time
Rumbybagg: damn, things getting hot in the gay fandom
NN: No if you havent noticed all i say saracsm and facts
DÆ: [replying to Rumbybaggs last msg] ITS NOT ABOUT GAYNESS
NN: [replying to Rumbybaggs last msg] #radiotime
DÆ: [replying to NNs "No if you havent noticed all i say saracsm and facts"] I always the good person
I always was a good person
NN: Youre messing with your own head so please stop blaming me on your own problems
DÆ: then everyone has to come in and fuckign ruin everything
Val: [replying to Rumbybagg] i love the gay fandom
DÆ: no one wants to treat me seriously
nothing helps me
no amount of distractions help me
Val: skill issue
DÆ: FINE I LEAVE YOU HAPPY NOW
get it funny, i'm your fucking funny clown
it always has to end like this, it wouldn't be fair otherwise
i deserve all of this
Val: [irrelevant will wood video]
señor white
voy a poner musica
Rumbybagg: mr. white
DÆ: I deserve to loose everything again and again, no one will love me, therapy wight as well be a bunch of drugs, nothing will save me, and I can only break down to everyone's amusement. [edited]
Val: do drugs #luigigotbigtits
Rumbybagg: mr. white makes drug, i think
Val: i love mr white [walter white emoji]
DÆ: why is it so hard to just be alone again when I was happy being by myself before anyone noticed me
Val: ok anyways
can anybody recite the bible in japanese
Rumbybagg: no, can you?
Val: [bible in japanese]
Rumbybagg: holy shit
SR: BRUH DANNY LEFT
Rumbybagg: lmao?
SR: No
Rumbybagg: didnt actually expect it
SR: It's not funny [edited]
Rumbybagg: sorry
Val: [continues with japanese bible]
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