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Lin's Usnavi is bubbly struggles while Anthony's Usnavi is sad struggles and I identify with and love both
Usnavi, Nina, Benny, & Vanessa: Broadway ➞ Film
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I would never be ok with the fact that Steve, who has always been praised as the selfless one, had literally made no sacrifice except in TFA where he drove that plane into the water. It was more of an impulsive decision he made after losing his only family, his best friend, Bucky. Oh and sacrificed a relationship with a girl he'd known for a month.
And then he went and had this whole life while grieving for his past. And got Bucky back. In CW, while Tony was struggling with his relationship, his guilt for creating Ultron (which was why he signed the accords) and ultimately his parents' death (and their killer), all Steve did was throwing the shield in his face, throwing their friendship in his face. Steve got Bucky back at the cost of Tony.
Then in Endgame, he got his shield back, his friend back, he got to hold Mjolnir, and he got to go back to Peggy. He got to be portrayed as this worthy, selfless hero, who's all about principle and justice. Yet he's not proven it but once. He went back to Peggy despite her clearly saying that she had a great life, a love, a family.
Meanwhile, Tony's been anything but selfish. He found out his weapons were used to kill innocent people and shut it down. He almost died getting rid of Stane. He went into the wormhole knowing he might never see Pepper again. He made Ultron to protect everyone and paid dearly for it. He wanted to give his life in IW and failed. And Tony lived his next 5 years in guilt. Guilt of Strange giving up the Time Stone to save him. Guilt of surviving and having Pepper and Morgan while people lost their loved ones. Guilt of not being able to protect Peter. You can't convince me that Tony's got his happy ending with 5 guilt-ridden years. His whole character arc was him struggling and suffering and dealing with all that was thrown at him. Maybe that's why his death was such a hard hit for stans. Because we just wanted him to be happy.
I love Steve Rogers dearly. But I hate the way he's portrayed. And how his arc played out. After years of looking for Bucky and protecting him, I refuse to believe Steve would've make the decision to go back to his fling. Steve Rogers is selfless enough to let go of Peggy and his past to stay and help Bucky who's gonna have a hard time adapting, to overlook things the way Nat used to. For Steve stans to say that he deserves to be selfish, I agree. He does. But he wouldn't. The man Steve Rogers was, is, would never choose to leave knowing there's much left to be done. He would never be able to live peacefully knowing there's injustice in the world. I would have been content with him going back and watching Peggy knowing she's moved on and that he should do the same. I would've been ok with him sacrificing his life in Endgame. It would hurt, but I would agree with the way it plays out for him, as it suits his character. Because how it played out in Endgame just showed me another soldier who fought and went home. And what's so special about that?
#natasha romanoff#natasha romanov#bruce banner#the incredible hulk#hulk#tony stark#tony stark should have lived#pepper potts#morgan stark#clint barton#clint got his happy ending#avengers endgame#steve rogers#steve rogers should have sacrificed himself#not my steve rogers#iron man#iron dad#captain america
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we’ve really been calling tony stark, who was in the longest and healthiest committed relationship in the mcu for 10 years, a thot while steve rogers has kissed a different girl in all of his solo movies and literally went back in time solely to become a homewrecker
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Peter struggles a lot with his memories of Tony’s death. He’s a little ashamed of how much it bothers him. He’s an Avenger, after all. Death shouldn’t leave these kinds of scars.
But it did. It had. The images of Tony slipping away, the smell of his charred skin, the way his breaths had wheezed in, out, then shuddered to a halt, arc reactor flickering into nothingness…
The memory of Tony’s hand falling limply away from Pepper’s was always playing in the back of his mind.
But most of all, he couldn’t stop replaying the fact that Tony hadn’t said anything to him. He’d just laid there, still and silent. Peter hadn’t gotten any last words, final comforts. All he’d gotten was hazy eyes and a bucketful of trauma.
There was no escaping the memories, no running from the horror that bubbled in his throat whenever they resurfaced. And he knew he couldn’t survive like this. Maybe even more so, he knew that Tony would never want him to.
So, he goes to Pepper.
There were only two people on Earth who truly understood. Sure, Steve and the others had watched from afar, but Rhodey, Peter, and Pepper had been on the frontlines. They’d been close enough to hear his last breaths, to see the life dwindle out of Iron Man’s eyes.
He could’ve gone to either Rhodey or Pepper, of course, but he chose her because the memory of Tony’s death wasn’t the only one that he could recall with frightening clarity.
In the settling moments, the ones that came in the shockwaves of that final breath, Pepper had kissed Tony’s cheek. Peter had felt like throwing up. Rhodey had held him back, steel arms around his stomach.
“Rhodey,” Pepper had gasped, “Rhodey, let him come, now. Let him… Just let him come.”
He’d been released, and he would’ve face-planted if Pepper hadn’t twisted around to grab his arm, steadying him as he sunk to his knees in front of Tony’s body.
“Mister Stark?” He whimpered. He’d reached for Tony like a child, hands grasping helplessly just inches from his motionless chest. It was a physical call for action, a plea to be held.
Tony hadn’t answered it, was far past that, now, but Pepper had.
She had pulled him into her chest, chin resting on the crown of his head. “Shh, sweetheart. It’s alright now. It’s over. It’s… It’s all over.”
“Tony?” At any other time, he would’ve been ashamed of how cracked and desperate his voice was, of his entire reaction in general. But then, he’d been strangely detached, out of control. “Tony.”
Pepper had been the one to guide him as he tucked himself against Tony’s chest, had been the one to rub his back as he sobbed. Eventually, she’d been the one who’d rocked him while Rhodey scooped Tony into his arms, to carry him back. To carry him home.
Although the memories were hazy, he knew that she’d stayed with him once he slipped into shock, too. She’d filled the role of May, of Tony, without missing a step. And she’d done it all while struggling under the weight of a loss that even Peter couldn’t begin to comprehend.
And, sure, Pepper had always been kind to him, but she’d taken more of an interest in him after… well, after. He knew it was probably only out of a lingering need to protect whatever Tony loved, but he clung to that connection all the same.
So he skips school, comes to the cabin when Morgan’s at playgroup. The conversation he needed to have wouldn’t feel right with her in the house. It would feel wrong.
As soon as the door opens, he can see Pepper’s surprise, see the reprimand on her lips, but then she takes in the look on his face, the bags underneath his eyes, and she ushers him in.
She makes him sit on the couch, offers him tea. He shakes his head, just curls into himself until she finally sits beside him.
“What do you need, Peter?” She asks, voice soft. Peter wonders if that’s why Tony fell in love with her: because her ability to gentle was good for his rough edges.
“I… I keep thinking about it.”
Pepper didn’t need clarification to at least understand the ballpark of his meaning. “Oh, Peter. It’s normal to feel the… the loss of presence in your life-”
He shakes his head. “No, no. I mean I keep thinking about it. About the.. the moment. It won’t stop playing in my head.”
“That moment that he…?”
“Yeah.”
The moment that he died.
“What bothers you about it?”
It feels like a ridiculous question at first. What bothers him about it? Well, the fact that Tony died, for one. The fact that he was just sixteen and confused and watching something horrific happen without the gravity of the moment really registering until after, until it was too late to really process it at all.
But then… but then he realizes that there was a reason behind why it bothered him so much. That despite the generic awfulness of the whole experience, there was one aspect that stung above everything else. One fact that he was constantly tangling himself up in.
“He didn’t say anything to me,” he whispers, voice breaking. “He… I don’t even think he knew that I was there.”
He would’ve comforted me. He would’ve said something stupid, smiled, cracked a joke. If he’d known I was there, he wouldn’t have acted the way he did.
He wouldn’t have just laid there.
“He knew,” Pepper murmured, and she said it like she never once doubted that it was true.
He wanted to believe it. God, he really, really wanted to believe it.
“How do you know?”
“Because I saw him recognize you, Peter. He… He wasn’t at peace until he saw your face. Didn’t you notice him look at you?”
“I… I don’t know.”
If he was being honest, he hadn’t been seeing much of anything at the time, besides the blur-wobble of unshed tears.
“He did.” Pepper tilts his chin up, the same way Tony used to, when he refused to look at him after a rough day at school or on patrol. “He looked at you like he’d be alright if that was the last thing he’d ever see. And I don’t think… I don’t think he could talk, sweetheart.”
“He talked to you.”
He hated how petulant it sounded, how childish and resentful. Of course Pepper deserved those final words. She was Tony’s wife, the mother of his child, the love of his life. What right did Peter have to resent Tony’s last gift to her?
But Pepper didn’t seem upset. She just smiled, genuine and sad. “And you heard how it sounded, didn’t you? He was trying not to scare you, Peter. At least, not anymore than he already had. You were so frightened. I think he knew that if he said anything, it would just make it harder for you to accept.”
He felt a sob threaten to crawl up his throat. When he spoke, his voice was strained with it. “He just… he used to talk so much.”
“I know. But, honey,” Pepper’s thumb swiped under cheek, caught a tear he hadn’t even known had fallen, “sometimes we don’t need to say anything to tell someone we love them.”
“Did he… Do you really think he…?”
“Loved you?” At his reluctant nod, Pepper laughed. “Peter, look outside. Half the birds, half the children, half of everyone: they’re all there because of you. Tony stitched the universe back together just so that you could live in it. If that isn’t love, what is?”
And for once, Peter didn’t really know what to say, either.
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If you told me ten years ago that we weren’t alone, let alone, you know, to this extent, I mean, I wouldn’t have been surprised. But come on, who knew? That epic forces of darkness and light that have come into play. And, for better or worse, that’s the reality Morgan’s going to have to find a way to grow up in.
- Tony Stark, Avengers: Endgame (2019) requested by anon
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Joe and Anthony Russo, the sibling directors who have worked with Downey on “Captain America: Civil War,” “Avengers: Infinity War” and the new “Avengers: Endgame,” say the Academy should finally recognize Downey for his Marvel Studios work — even if it means overcoming apparent bias against actors in superhero movies. (The late Heath Ledger is the only actor to ever win an Oscar for a superhero role, for 2008’s “The Dark Knight.”)
“His cumulative body of work from these movies is staggering,” said Joe Russo, while promoting the record-breaking “Endgame” this week in Washington. “If you look at the work over just even the last four [Marvel] films he’s done, it’s phenomenal. . . . He deserves an Oscar perhaps more than anyone in the last 40 years because of the way that he is motivated.”
The early “Iron Man” movies relied heavily on Downey’s quick-tongued charisma. But one benefit of “Endgame” running over three hours is that the directors are able to let scenes of emotional dialogue breathe between the battles. And because Downey’s character is given a textured arc involving multiple generations of family, the actor reminds viewers of his seemingly effortless range.
With some of his scenes, “it’s heartbreaking,” Joe Russo said. “He has the world in tears right now.”
A decade ago, I sat with Downey at Comic-Con International in San Diego, as he and director Jon Favreau were riding the high of “Iron Man” and making its first sequel. Downey can be a deceptively complicated performer, and you could sense he was still sculpting just what he wanted his Tony Stark to be.“I’m really strong at coming in and saying: ‘There’s something behind that wall [creatively], so let’s knock it down and be bold there . . .’ ” Downey said. “I know it sounds weird, but I have equations in my head, and those equations apply to where people should be and [what] the frequency of the interactions should be — and the words and the dialogue and the props come in later.”
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“He has a very involved process — a more involved process than any actor we’ve ever worked with,” Anthony Russo said Tuesday. “He digs deeper, and he works harder than anybody. . . . Downey really just goes the extra mile for everything — it’s like everything he’s doing is something to his core.
”The actor is so kinetic in his on-set approach, in fact, that it can be a challenge for the directors. “He’s one of the hardest actors to stage a scene for,” Anthony Russo said, “because he loves to move so much.”
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Joe and Anthony Russo, the sibling directors who have worked with Downey on “Captain America: Civil War,” “Avengers: Infinity War” and the new “Avengers: Endgame,” say the Academy should finally recognize Downey for his Marvel Studios work — even if it means overcoming apparent bias against actors in superhero movies. (The late Heath Ledger is the only actor to ever win an Oscar for a superhero role, for 2008’s “The Dark Knight.”)
“His cumulative body of work from these movies is staggering,” said Joe Russo, while promoting the record-breaking “Endgame” this week in Washington. “If you look at the work over just even the last four [Marvel] films he’s done, it’s phenomenal. . . . He deserves an Oscar perhaps more than anyone in the last 40 years because of the way that he is motivated.”
The early “Iron Man” movies relied heavily on Downey’s quick-tongued charisma. But one benefit of “Endgame” running over three hours is that the directors are able to let scenes of emotional dialogue breathe between the battles. And because Downey’s character is given a textured arc involving multiple generations of family, the actor reminds viewers of his seemingly effortless range.
With some of his scenes, “it’s heartbreaking,” Joe Russo said. “He has the world in tears right now.”
A decade ago, I sat with Downey at Comic-Con International in San Diego, as he and director Jon Favreau were riding the high of “Iron Man” and making its first sequel. Downey can be a deceptively complicated performer, and you could sense he was still sculpting just what he wanted his Tony Stark to be.“I’m really strong at coming in and saying: ‘There’s something behind that wall [creatively], so let’s knock it down and be bold there . . .’ ” Downey said. “I know it sounds weird, but I have equations in my head, and those equations apply to where people should be and [what] the frequency of the interactions should be — and the words and the dialogue and the props come in later.”
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“He has a very involved process — a more involved process than any actor we’ve ever worked with,” Anthony Russo said Tuesday. “He digs deeper, and he works harder than anybody. . . . Downey really just goes the extra mile for everything — it’s like everything he’s doing is something to his core.
”The actor is so kinetic in his on-set approach, in fact, that it can be a challenge for the directors. “He’s one of the hardest actors to stage a scene for,” Anthony Russo said, “because he loves to move so much.”
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WOW, the fact that the Russo brothers HATE how taika watiti developed thor’s character in ragnarok really really fucking jumps out in avengers 4!!!
in ragnarok, taika:
cut Thor’s hair
took away his hammer, signifying that Thor was indeed a character beyond the hammer
took out his eye, signifying that Thor was powerful beyond his physical attributes and ready to take on the responsibility as king
put Thor as the underdog in the situation, reminding the audience that Thor is clever and intelligent, not only optimistic and cheerful, and purely brawn
had him meet Valkyrie and earn her loyalty, showing him as a leader ready to right the wrongs of Asgard’s past and encourage his people to a better path
developed his relationship with Loki, reminding the audience that they were still brothers and Thor had great capacity for forgiveness, but wasn’t stupid enough to blindly trust Loki
destroyed Asgard, showing that Thor is ready to take, make, and recover from the big sacrifices and do whatever it takes to keep, care, and protect his people
in avengers 3 and 4, the Russo brothers:
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WOW, the fact that the Russo brothers HATE how taika watiti developed thor’s character in ragnarok really really fucking jumps out in avengers 4!!!
in ragnarok, taika:
cut Thor’s hair
took away his hammer, signifying that Thor was indeed a character beyond the hammer
took out his eye, signifying that Thor was powerful beyond his physical attributes and ready to take on the responsibility as king
put Thor as the underdog in the situation, reminding the audience that Thor is clever and intelligent, not only optimistic and cheerful, and purely brawn
had him meet Valkyrie and earn her loyalty, showing him as a leader ready to right the wrongs of Asgard’s past and encourage his people to a better path
developed his relationship with Loki, reminding the audience that they were still brothers and Thor had great capacity for forgiveness, but wasn’t stupid enough to blindly trust Loki
destroyed Asgard, showing that Thor is ready to take, make, and recover from the big sacrifices and do whatever it takes to keep, care, and protect his people
in avengers 3 and 4, the Russo brothers:
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Excerpts about Pepper and Tony from the Avengers Infinity War: Destiny Arrives novelization by Liza Palmer.
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daniel sousa in the season finale
i just love the fact that literally everybody started explaining dramatically why they should be the ones to sacrifice themselves and disabled daniel sousa with a crutch didn’t even listen and just did what had to be done without making a fuss and i think that’s one of the reasons why peggy loves him so much
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You know darn well I didn’t do this, which means the SSR is looking for the wrong guy. I want to find the right guy. But I’m gonna need someone on the inside, someone I can trust. And, Peg, there’s no one I trust more than you.
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I don’t want to forget Tony Stark
We got through Peter getting dusted because we knew Spiderman-2 was shooting and he was coming back.
But Tony is not coming back.
This isn’t like Pietro, Yondu, Gamora or Vision.
I miss Tony Stark like someone in my family has died.
I’m scared a day will come when all artists, fanfiction writers etc. forget him. No more Irondad. No more Pepperony.
I don’t want to move on. Seeing old movies, like Iron Man (2008) makes me cry after endgame because there is just no more Tony Stark, no snarky comments, cheesy one liners, clever tricks, brilliant tech aesthetic.
Maybe one day I will. I don’t look forward to it.
I want to show my children these films, I want them to feel the human emotions. I don’t know what is going to happen to marvel, but the Tony Stark cinematic universe just ended. I would’ve been better if Iron Man was dead, but not Tony Stark.
He finally got everything he wanted, and also Peter..He carried the weight of the world on his back, and now he can finally rest.
Perhaps no movie ever will live up to the high expectations like Avengers: Endgame, so it makes more sense that the grandest cinematic event of this centuary was Tony Stark’s swan song.
These 11 years with RDJ as Tony Stark have been a blessing.
Everyone loved Tony Stark. A part of love is loss.
He has taken us on this incredible journey, that built a universe from a single movie, but a part of that journey is the end. And we just reached it.
He showed us that heroes are built, everyone can redeem themselves and the past doesn’t define your future.
His last words were the same as those in his first movie, “I am Iron Man”
Tony Stark is a hero, an emotion that touched the hearts of millions.
May Your Soul Rest In Peace.
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I’m frustrated with how endgame tried to make steggy the great love story of the mcu, when clearly that title belongs to pepperony
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https://www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/avengers-endgame-captain-americas-ending-ruins-the/1100-6466487/?__twitter_impression=true
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