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Reread and did another editing pass on everything I had marked as part of Chapter 3 of Beware the Spirits Lurking Within (aka Hosie Halloween Horror), and I think it��s in good shape. Rearranged scenes per notes to end the chapter on a fun cliffhanger. 5880 words. Too late tonight for me to go ahead and publish, but maybe tomorrow/this weekend?
I sorta glanced over what’s set to be Chapter 4, and it’s also in pretty good shape, although I need to see where it really should end and rearrange at least one, if not more, scenes. The main issue there is that it is the lead into Chapter 5, where all the disparate threads finally come together, and I have all of 2 paragraphs of the first scene of Chapter 5…so I’ll want to have much more/almost all of Chapter 5 written before I publish Chapter 4.
I know it’s been a long wait on this as I’ve been stalled in that same spot and chased some ideas that were working front-of-mind…but I haven’t forgotten about this (for all one of you out there who’ve read it so far 😂).
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facing darkness is kinda my thing // everything that can be lost may also be found
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Tonight’s shower idea, brought to you in part by Important Recap Information from our friend @encircledbythorns:
Sometime in the future, Josie’s off somewhere (let’s say she never came home after leaving in 4x09…insane, I know…but if the writers can do insane nonsense like Season 3, then I can have Josie never come home, too 😂). She’s living her good, quiet life in a small town somewhere, raising plants—hey, could even be a flower shop AU 😂
But to a select few in the know, she’s the go-to person for all the magical supplies you need, not just plants and potions and crystals, but also, in extreme cases,…dark objects! She spends her evenings making them after she’s done tending the plants.
My headcanon here is that, because they have no magic of their own, siphon witches are drawn to the world of dark objects, things-with-magic they can use even when they don’t have any magic reserves. And they have a particular skill at making them (which we’ve kinda seen with VardeClarke having Josie make the trident)…
Dunno how Hope might come into this scenario, though…
#ideas#josie saltzman#Parker’s Plants (and Dark Objects)#hosie#this is the way my mind works#dark objects#siphon witches
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Saw someone say that Hope would be the more jealous one in the relationship (over Josie) and to that I raise them two things:
-Hope was actually pretty understanding when she was jealous of Josie and Landon. She was able to push everything down and force herself to try and move on. I don’t think she’s a very jealous partner overall. Even with H*ndon, Landon was the one who was more jealous (with Roman) and Hope was kind of down to earth about it all. To the point he even got angry with her when he got his memories back and thought she was a little too okay with him being with someone else
-I know this one is partly dark magic’s fault, but Josie was extremely jealous in a relationship with Landon. And that was our first example of her in a relationship, since with Penelope we didn’t get to see their dating life. I feel like Josie was also more unhinged about Landon because she could subconsciously feel his relevance to Hope. She wasn’t jealous when we saw her with Finch later, but that whole relationship lacked any buzz or fire
So yeah, I just think Josie would be the more jealous one if they dated
#reblog#encircledbythorns#nodding along#saltzman twins#josie saltzman#lizzie saltzman#penelope park#hope mikaelson
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“You are responsible for the minors in your fandom!!!”
No, I’m fucking not. I’m not your parent. My past-times do not automatically sign me up to act in loco parentis. If you need someone else to monitor your own content consumption online, go get mommy and/or daddy to set up a content blocker on your computer.
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Agreed.
I’d also add, though I don’t know how relevant it is, that Josie has grown up around Lizzie, so she has that entire history of Lizzie taking who Josie wanted (whether jealousy motivated Lizzie or not, I don’t know, but I kinda feel it’s part of her personality). Which, along with the black magic influence, probably explains a lot of Josie’s jealousy issues when she was with Landon (she set that one girl’s books/notes on fire in class after the girl flirted with Landon, too).
(And Landon was actively “searching” for Hope, first by killing himself over and over at the dock to get glimpses of her, and then being drawn to her when she reappeared; he was “that boyfriend” on their dates…I don’t think Josie even needed her subconscious here to feel herself losing her boyfriend to another girl…)
Saw someone say that Hope would be the more jealous one in the relationship (over Josie) and to that I raise them two things:
-Hope was actually pretty understanding when she was jealous of Josie and Landon. She was able to push everything down and force herself to try and move on. I don’t think she’s a very jealous partner overall. Even with H*ndon, Landon was the one who was more jealous (with Roman) and Hope was kind of down to earth about it all. To the point he even got angry with her when he got his memories back and thought she was a little too okay with him being with someone else
-I know this one is partly dark magic’s fault, but Josie was extremely jealous in a relationship with Landon. And that was our first example of her in a relationship, since with Penelope we didn’t get to see their dating life. I feel like Josie was also more unhinged about Landon because she could subconsciously feel his relevance to Hope. She wasn’t jealous when we saw her with Finch later, but that whole relationship lacked any buzz or fire
So yeah, I just think Josie would be the more jealous one if they dated
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The (canon) timeline once again is giving me nightmares.
We saw Lizzie and Hope “fully” on the outs at the twins’ 11th birthday in the 4x05 flashback (which also seems to come around the same time as the Lizzie’s diary stuff in the other—3x15—flashback with Summer Fontana, though I don’t remember if we got a year/ages in that one).
So, given that, it’s fascinating to me that 2-3 years later when Josie does the note and then the fire, she’s still worried about Lizzie stealing Hope like she claims in 1x12…obviously Lizzie has done the “theft of my crush” a lot to Josie, but…Lizzie stealing someone she actively hates?
I think, for the purposes of this story, I’m going to make it the twins’ 12th birthday party [March] that Hope and Lizzie ruined by attacking each other with magic, and then that spring break [April] being ruined with the fire/note, and Josie being afraid not that Lizzie will steal Hope from her, but that Lizzie will react very badly to the idea that her twin was not just “obsessed” with Hope, but in love with her…
…And that’s basically all I’ve done tonight, get tangled in the timeline 😭
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If i can't cause psychic/psychological damage to my readers, what even is the point of writing xD — @evilpenguinrika in a reply to me on AO3
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The fact I routinely see Hayley and think she’s Hope for a second is proof of good casting. Also now that Danielle is blonde, she looks even more like Riley
#reblog#hope mikaelson#hayley marshall#freya mikaelson#danielle rose russell#phoebe tonkin#riley voelkel#casting jackpot
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The tag: #Josie looks at the moon and daydreams about Hope in her wolf form
New headcanon. 🙏
When I say Hosie
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Oooh, two posts chock full of good food! 🙏 @deafangel2019 @encircledbythorns
The thing that’s most interesting to me at the moment is the idea that the appearance of siphon witches (only) in the Gemini Coven is somehow a product of Nature’s attempt to balance the power-linking/-consolidating feature of the coven…by periodically giving them magic-less witches. Or, looking at it another way, it’s a gene mutation-style thing, where, as a consequence of all that power consolidation, you sometimes end up with witches who can suck all that power up…
This is probably a question I shouldn't ask: Would the dying Gemini coven still bothered saving Lizzie and Josie in the womb if they had - somehow, theoretically - discovered they could both be siphoners?
The thought came to me in the midst of fanfiction planning (and one of my OCs having beef with the twins before their relationship gets better) and it dawned on me that while most can agree the Saltzmans easily took things for granted, considering how Alaric and Jo planned to run and hide from the coven during her pregnancy, I felt that maybe the Geminis overall deaths might have been an unexpected boon. Like fine, everyone loves Kai as a great Villain, but I never forget that he didn't get to that point alone. The Geminis had a history of discriminating against the Siphoners born into their community and the Heretics pretty much confirmed that running away and hiding was necessary because torture and death (and death threats) was all that waited them once their Siphoner statuses were discovered. Why Kai was kept around growing up, only the untold past of the Gemini Coven knows, but if Siphoners and turned Siphoner/vampire hybrids were big No No's to the coven, imagine what would have happened if they knew "the future of the coven" were born the very things they hated?
Don't get me wrong, I wanna have good faith in Josette that her trauma with her twin wouldn't affect her ability to raise the girls...but given TVD's track record, I have to get on the realistic side that having children with the same ability as the twin that tormented you and following the order of canon that they might end up over-siphoning & almost killing you - so the band of hybrid Siphoners have to use their power to save you?
(Alright, that last bit might be the thing to heal her trauma with siphoners, but you never know! Plus if you follow the narrative, outside of Tyler Lockwood, notice how Caroline never bothered with werewolves willingly yet lets them come into Salvatore, where she had better relationships with the vampire and witch species throughout the entire show? Food for thought in that.)
So, back to topic: Think the Geminis would have saved the twins if they knew they were Siphoners beforehand?
#reblog#gemini coven#gemini twins#siphon witches#josie saltzman#lizzie saltzman#joshua parker#kai parker#jo laughlin
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So we know that Bonnie was able to overcome her trauma from siphoning enough to treat the twins with love and care, even to the point of teaching them that siphoning isn’t a bad thing. Which is a huge amount of growth and shows just how much love and compassion her character is capable of
But I often wonder if Jo would’ve immediately been the same. I think she would’ve been eventually, just based on how insanely loving her interactions with Josie and Lizzie are, but I also think she might’ve struggled more than Bonnie to overcome that siphon based trauma just because Kai was her twin and she was raised on the anti-siphon beliefs the Gemini coven held. Like she was probably taught the lore of the curse just as a way of life, and even if the Gemini coven no longer hangs siphons in slaughterhouses, they still have clear prejudice against them. She would have to work harder to unlearn all of that wiring that was only ‘reinforced’ by what Kai did to their siblings. She loves her babies enough that I think she would, but if the coven was hypothetically still alive I think she would’ve had stand offs with them over their attitude towards Josie and Lizzie. It would be a lot to unlearn, but luckily Jo had also already fled the coven and abandoned it partially because she knew how fucked up it was. So I think she’d already started the work of unlearning things. I’m sure she talked about a lot of this with Sheila, too
And we’re never gonna see any of this, which is my roman empire
#reblog#encircledbythorns#gemini twins#gemini coven#bonnie bennett#jo laughlin#kai parker#josie saltzman#lizzie saltzman#siphon witches
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Liking Rika’s tags, too:
#that user defending AI clearly didn't understand the assignment #personally using ai to write your shit for you (or draw your shit for you) takes away the heart and soul of the creator's intention #saying “not everhone has the time or energy to” doesn't understand that to some/most ppl #creating is fun for them #i have days where i have no spoons to create #and that's fine #what matters is that what i'm doing is coming from my heart #in wanting to create things to share
just saw a fanfic on ao3 have a dedication for chatgpt... that section is meant for your horny perverted mutual who proofread your work, you violated sacred law and you will be torn apart and laid bare btw
#reblog#a fundamental misunderstanding of the purposes and joys of writing#ai#ai is theft#ai is not human
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