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Ok I found some undead books, I might make an undead Tumblr too (different from the Tzeentch one)

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More Flamers.

I'm going to make some champions for them too.

I'd wanted more of these 3rd generation flamers, as I think they're the nicest sculpts, and preferably finecast as the metal ones have heavy bodies.

Also, all now on 32mm base

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Getting there ☺️

(sculpted from green stuff, now getting painted)

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I thought it would be fun to make a fimo terminator 😂

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"If you've ever left the cinema or turned from the TV screen, wishing that you could invent your own death-stars, storm-troopers, whirling ornithopters and wild-eyed heroes then this is for you. Warhammer 40,000 is the game that lets you create all kinds of exciting, futuristic adventures on the tabletop. You will need a few models, a little scenery, and the odd accessory such as dice and a ruler - but most importantly you will need a smattering of creative genius. The fact you are reading this is a sure indication you are eminently qualified on that score."

Rogue Trader 1987

(1st edition 40k)

Personal creativity use to be the centre of this hobby.

Once a long time ago, special characters represented examples of how someone could use the army lists and magic items to create their own hero, with some fun background writing - now they are 'super' characters that dominate the battlefield and background alike, crushing any semblance of personal creativity out the hobby, almost punishing players for not using the studios named characters in their armies.

I miss the old world where no-one has a complete map, nor timeline. Where Athel Loren and the realm of chaos were specifically un-mappable. Where we were given short poetic pieces that set a tone and created an atmosphere without limiting the possibilities.

Replacing them with filled out time lines and maps, was what players were meant to do at home, not what studio people should publish. The studio was meant to encourage you, the player, to write and create.

These days it's easy to feel like a passive spectator to someone else's world, playing games with someone elses characters, rather than an active participant in creating your own world and characters.

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The undead horsemen from citadel miniatures from the early 1980s set-C21

These are 1st edition undead, I've subtly put them on 40mm round bases (there sunk into a hole in the middle of the base and sealed with green stuff so as not to damage the originals)

May they be heralds of some of my next posts - classic undead.

Aside Tzeentch and the chaos gods, my greatest long lasting love in Warhammer was the classic undead, pre-aos nagash, and Arkhan the Black- the last surviving true lich in all Warhammer after nagash, the other, became a god- leading their old world, gothic armies of skeletons ARCHERS (...) and a mix of zombies, skeletons, ghosts and ghouls.

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I guess this ad is out of date now 😂

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This post is just a sculpting reference for myself as Tumblr is easier to look up than books or old posts.

It'd be nice to make a little Daemon prince which looked like this.

This will take some time 😵‍💫

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Ok, so still some way to go, but getting there...

He's still half painted, & still a few alterations I might make to bits of him.

He's getting a new shoulder pad now.

My painting still needs improving.

Enough for one day though

Fyi I sculpted him by hand using green stuff, he is 100% just a lump of floppy green stuff.

I guess technically he's a 'proxy' 😂. This lump of green stuff represents this mini... 😃

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In an earlier post I said, 'wouldn't this artwork of a flamer of Tzeentch make a good mini'

Well I'm now a little closer to finding out.

It's not finished. Definitely still needs cleaning up and polishing, a few tweaks here & there

So, blender...that was awkward. But I guess it's whatever for my first ever attempt at using the program😳.

One day I'll try find a printer and print one off just to see how it looks and feels next to other minis, and to find out the horrors of how awkward a 3d printer really is to use.

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Aside from Tzeentch, my next favourite chaos god is Slaanesh.

Given how Slaanesh is struggling in the Age of Sigmar lore, it's nice to give them this little tribute from the Realm of Chaos book 1988, a little love for the Dark Prince 😘.

Here's what Slaanesh looks like, and how they're described, and a rather lovely version of their mark.

A wonderful artifact of Slaanesh.

Two pieces of poetry and art describing Slaanesh's realm.

And some classic daemons, champions and renegades.

P.s. noise marines are the best marines 😋 and I love this new mini of them. Definitely on my buy list.

My main army will be of Tzeentch, but I plan to get a second force of Slaanesh.

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To celebrate our era I reckon (with all daemonic facetiousness that one should expect from a chaos daemon...) I should make a special Keeper of Secrets armed with the 'woke-hammer' which only appears for the month of pride.

Every time it hits a character they roll up a new pronoun on the pronoun chart, and the Keeper of Secrets has a unique psychic power which lets them switch a random nearby basic space marine mini for the corresponding sister of battle mini 😁

My Tzeentchian daemons will happily ally with some Slaanesh daemons to make this possible 😝 and have a squad of noise marines to cheerlead them on 🌈

Lastly my chaos spawns now have D6 genders rolled for each time they appear, that way I feel a greater kinship with them. 😋

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Horrors of Tzeentch, Lesser Daemons of Tzeentch.

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I will rewrite this to fill out more about the evolution of Tzeentch's lesser daemons

Pink and blue horrors exist since first mention in realm of chaos 1990, where the idea is that a pink horror splits into two blue horrors when killed (the blue horrors simply being attached to the unit)

1st & 2nd edition minis have both pink and blue horrors.

The 1st edition of horrors have an extra section to their arms, having effectively two elbows per arm, and also have two feet per leg. The pink horrors come in two halves; a top half including the face & arms, and a bottom half with the legs and waist. Once assembled they are tough minis, whose only potential weakness would be breaking their arms.

Both first and second edition sets of horrors have a large face in the centre of their body, long arms, big hands and small legs.

This is a 2nd edition pink horror.

The 2nd edition minis did away with this having somewhat more regular arms and legs without the extra section of feet. The 2nd edition pink horrors have a separate tail, which can be knocked off given it's angle and thinness of where it joins, otherwise they are very sturdy minis albeit quite heavy due to being metal.

The 2nd edition horrors had the first standard bearer, musician & champion. The standard bearer having big sweeping horns, and the musician is shaped as a drum beating itself. I'll try get pictures of these at some point.

3rd edition minis have only pink horrors. They didn't split. They had a significant redesign where they are much more delicate, with thinner smaller arms, may have three or four arms, some may have horns, and their feet have a different structure. their face in particular is no longer a human like face, but an alien one incapable of expressing anything. This set includes the horrors which are mid-splitting. I think it's perhaps the most aesthetically pleasing set to look at, though the minis are quite delicate with lots of separate horns and arms which can easily be knocked off if not pinned.

Above are some 1st edition horrors on the left next to some 3rd edition horrors on the right. Though yet unpainted, they show the relative size of each.

4th edition minis have pink, blue & brimstone horrors; thus being the edition in which brimstone horrors were introduced. This is the first time horrors were made in plastic. They seam cumbersome and awkward as minis, similar in concept, in some respects, to the 2nd edition minis except with often three or four arms. Whilst the faces sometimes imitate a few of the earlier faces, they still retain the emotionless alienness of 3rd edition minis. I'd have to comment that the standard bearer and musician are easily off balanced and require weighted bases, and many of the pink horrors and heralds barely fit on their base.

John Blanche's inspiration art for the current horrors.

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Flamers of Tzeentch

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Creatures of Tzeentch, Fire Daemons, burning horrors.

I will progressively re-write this post to explore the evolution of Flamers of Tzeentch

Realm of chaos '1st edition' flamers 1990. Their first appearance.

The first edition minis come in two parts; a head with arms; and a bottom half. Once assembled they're tough as the arms are thick though also heavy as their solid lead. They have a simple face, often just an eye or a couple eyes.

Warhammer armies 1994, (4th edition Warhammer fantasy, but 2nd edition of Flamer minis. These continue in a vaguely related vein to the first edition minis, but are smaller, all have a beak face, and are more contained, They lost their lapel but otherwise keep the 'upturned mushroom' like body. They are a solid one piece body with two thin arms which are a bit awkward to attach. Some of the arms feel like there's no good angle to attach them. Also the thinness of the arms makes them a little more delicate than their predecessors. Otherwise they are convenient minis.

The third edition flamers are a redesign, changing almost all the details of Flamers, perhaps moreso than the 2nd edition flamers did. Their lower body is now 'floating' with mouths at the end, their face has changed into a mass of faces. They have thin arms, and come in both metal and finecast. The metal ones are quite heavy, making the arms seam more delicate. I personally think like the horrors the aesthetic of the third edition minis is nicest.

Above are some 1st edition flamers on the left next to 3rd edition flamers on the right, it shows the relative sizes of them.

The fourth edition minis (plastic set) are superficially similar to the third edition minis but more detailed, and with more fire protruding making them more awkward to handle and use. Personally I'm unsure about the aesthetic direction they're taking Flamers in.

John Blanche's inspiration art for the current 3rd & 4th edition of flamer minis

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From codex chaos daemons 2018

This would make a cool t-shirt print. Warhammer merch should get onto it 😂

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Modern Daemons of Tzeentch from the Disciples of Tzeentch 2022 (3rd edition AOS?)

The lord of Change is definitely much bigger than the earlier editions, he had the most scale creep for sure 😂

I kinda prefer the previous horrors (3rd version: last ones to get metal minis, I'll grab picture of some in a few days). I found the new plastic horrors and flamers to be unwieldy and awkward to handle. (In fairness all flamer minis are awkward to handle from every edition's range)

Sometimes I think that GW designers forget that they're not just making artwork, but making wargaming minis that have to handled, transported, and positioned on complex 3d terrain (including hills) next to other minis where the direction their facing may matter. I don't like it when they become easily off balanced (like the standard bearer horror minis) or protrude to far off their base making it impossible for them to be adjacent to another mini on that side, as some of the horrors and heralds do.

I hope this range gets redone with this in mind.

Until then I will slowly sculpt my own personal ones.

I still like the artwork and see much potential in it to make great minis, and it's my opinion that as far the current Tzeentch daemons go, only the screamers and the Lord of Change are truly wonderful minis, maybe the blue scribes too. The rest I think could do a better job, with more love, and more consideration towards the experience of players using the minis.

More so I still love the personality of the 1st edition (1990) blue horrors (specifically the blue ones). They're humourous, and I feel like the current range has forgotten how to be cheeky and facetious, which is an essential aspect of who Tzeentch is.