tonyyredgrave
tonyyredgrave
Dante Sparda
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⋆ ♱ ♧ ♱ ⋆"Ripped and irresistable dreamboat, I know." Dante \\ He/HimI'm the cooler son of sparda"You still can't just tear a guy's clothes off."⋆♱ ♤ ♱⋆ℑ 𝔰𝔥𝔬𝔲𝔩𝔡 𝔥𝔞𝔳𝔢 𝔟𝔢𝔢𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔬𝔫𝔢 𝔱𝔬 𝔣𝔦𝔩𝔩 𝔶𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔡𝔞𝔯𝔨 𝔰𝔬𝔲𝔩 𝔴𝔦𝔱𝔥 𝔩𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱.
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Fine SHYT
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Feel like getting stabbed again who wants to do it
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Devil May Cry HD Collection (2018) | Platform: PC
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Something fun! I think it's very amusing how he's just bad at DDR since he wants to do his own thing XD
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OP THIS IS SO GOOD
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Trish 💋
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Trish 💋
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HE IS SO SILLY IN THE GOOD WAY IN THE ANIME GOD IM CRYING
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nico❗️
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Trish x Lady and Dante x Lady shippers should stop beefing and agree that spardacest is worse
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"For Tony Redgrave" DEVIL MAY CRY - SEASON 2
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dmc x honkai star rail
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Created in 2023
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STOP CALLING ME THE NEW GOJO
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Really enjoying the show so far!
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So let's cover the bossfight itself before unpacking the cutscenes. The fight is basically a victory lap, it's practically impossible to lose on normal mode. Vergil has significantly less HP, and Nero is given infinitely replenishing devil trigger. The only struggle is making the fight last long enough to get the unique dialog lines to trigger. Vergil is obviously much weaker after his fight with Dante, but also Nero is fueled up by the shonen power of being morally correct. If you want a "real" fight between Nero and Vergil, that's what replaying the game on a higher difficulty is for lol. Nero's devil trigger functions the same way it did in DMC4 funnily enough, it adds additional hits to every attack. Just instead of being a Stand ghost slashing the yamato, it's the angel wings slicing and dicing. I didn't manage to pull it off, but there's also additional grapple animations for Nero grabbing onto two enemies at once and bashing them together which is pretty sick and something he's able to do now because both arms have the Bringer capabilities going for them instead of just having the one Devil Bringer.
So as we've established, nobody understands what's going on in Nero's head right now. Everyone's telling him "noooo we know you want to kill Vergil sooooo bad but we can't let you do that to yourself!" but that's the furthest thing from his mind. There's a whole of turmoil going on inside him right now, he's confused and mixed up inside. So when he sees the payphone, of course he calls Kyrie.
Again, Nero HAD an adoptive family growing up and he loved Kyrie and Credo from the bottom of his heart. But in DMC, blood relations matter. Nero is saying "all of a sudden I find out I have a family" because he's referring to his biological family members with whom he shares genetic material. In DMC blood is thicker than water, please leave your obsession with found family at the door lol. Remember the overarching theme of the entire franchise is family, legacy, the ties that bind, and familial love. Legacy in particular is the primary theme of Nero's story, because he's the most true to Sparda out of the entire cast. One could imagine Sparda going to Eva with his self doubts, just like Nero is calling Kyrie.
And Kyrie knows exactly what to say. Nero has no reason to doubt himself, he always knows what is right and what is wrong. What is at the core of Nero's feelings right now? Put aside the bullshit over "oh no my arm," put aside everyone elses drama over wanting to kill Vergil, put aside the angst over his dad apparently been alive all along and was simply a deadbeat. What is at Nero's core right now? He wants his family. He wants the family he never had. He wants to protect the people that are important to him. He wants to make up for his inability to protect Credo when it mattered most. Nero fights not for revenge or to improve himself, Nero fights to preserve.
And with his awareness and acceptance of his demonic heritage and his resolve being absolute, he awakens the devil inside and unleashes Sparda's true power. I find it very important to note that Nero's devil trigger looks ANGELIC. He looks like a demonic angel, with wings and his horns evocative of a halo. You might almost say he's an angel of the underground =P
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Also note how his arms look exactly like how the Devil Bringer did, proving the Devil Bringer was a permanent partial DT.
What I think is particularly interesting and lowkey funny about Nero confronting Dante and Vergil is there's kind of a mutual misunderstanding happening here. Nero's "there are other ways of resolving your differences" line in particular is hilarious given the context of Dante and Vergil's relationship. He doesn't really understand that fighting is their love language, Dante and Vergil's entire concept of brotherhood is founded on fighting each other. Look at the way Vergil laughs and says "you came all this way just for that?" Vergil thinks the idea of Nero trying to get them to stop fighting is silly, because of course they want to fight they're brothers don't you get that? Now I do think they were willing to kill each other during this fight, so Nero is right to stop them in that sense, but he's right for the wrong reasons.
And what Dante and Vergil don't understand is that to Nero, an orphan who grew up without a family, this entire conflict is FUCKING STUPID and he HATES it and wants the fighting to stop. You might say "oh well then why is he willing to fight Vergil then?" but you'd be being deliberately obtuse. He's not fighting to kill, he's knocking their heads together to get them to stop. And there's also a fair bit of "forcing the absentee father to acknowledge his son" involved. Nero is ANGRY at Vergil right now. Notice how much Nero is swearing up a cuss storm during this whole fight? Nero RARELY curses, and certainly never dropped F bombs before. But in this fight he's calling Vergil a fucking asshole. He is incensed, and as they say during the fight Nero wants Vergil to acknowledge him as a son. He's fighting to stop them from fighting, but he's also fighting because he wants a little bit of "Cat's In The Cradle" catharsis too let's be honest.
What's funny is narratively, the fights a formality. As Dante says "whatever, I don't really care." All the animosity has been sucked out of the room. If Dante and Vergil were struggling to think of an excuse for why they wanted to fight beyond their own personal baggage before, there's LITERALLY no rational reason for Nero and Vergil to fight. Nero already got what he wanted before the fight even started. Even Vergil is setting the terms that if he wins against Nero then it counts as a victory over Dante, meaning VERGIL DOESN'T EVEN CARE ABOUT PERSONALLY KILLING DANTE ANYMORE, he JUST wants the salty runback. In many ways Dante and Vergil have been cowed by Nero's mere presence, the overwhelming aura of his confidence and resolve. Whatever killer instinct they may have had towards each other has been permanently neutered. They're a family, whether they like it or not. And Nero is the living proof that they cannot ignore. Nero put a stop to their sibling rivalry, and the brothers heed to his superiority.
That brings up another thing which is the element of demonic culture being a factor in the fight. As Dante says "he won, so you have to do what he says." We've discussed in DMC3 how when Dante defeats a boss, they acknowledge his superiority and become a devil arm for him, and in the ending Vergil lost to Mundus and was forced to become his weapon in the form of Nelo Angelo. It is clearly a factor of the might makes right culture of demons that the loser must submit to the victor. In a sense, that's what Dante and Vergil are doing by setting their desire to kill each other aside.
They're still happy to fight, because fighting is their love language, but all the hatred and desire to maim and slaughter one another has been discarded basically because Nero told them to and Nero won so they HAVE to do what he says. Vergil insists "I can still fight.... but we should take care of the evil tree first" as a face saving way of ceding to Nero's will without having to stain his pride by admitting he lost. In a way, Dante and Vergil are running off to cut down the Qliphoth because they're acting as Nero's devil arms. And they won't try and kill each other anymore because as his devil arms they gotta do what he says, just like how Dante told Agni and Rudra they weren't allowed to talk anymore.
Vergil leaving Nero his book of poetry... remember the entry from the old library man in the games gallery. Vergil wrote his name in the book so that it would truly belong to him. Symbolically, Vergil is leaving Nero a piece of his soul as a way of accepting him as his son. And Nero seems to understand the importance, even if he can't possibly know the truth of why. Vergil is so repressed and shaken up by the revelation that Nero is his son that this is the best he can do lol.
In the end everything has been settled thanks to the power of family and this gun Nero made.
This also isn't the first time Dante drove into the depths of hell and then returned, so I wouldn't be too worried about it.
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