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odysseus: whaT DO YOU MEAN MOVE THE BED????
penelope: oh sorry i thought we were playing the ask stupid questions game
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I love how good the ithaca saga characterizes Penelope. And I'm not talking about her being super smart and disgusting loyal, I'm talking about her being so clearly SPARTAN.
Like this saga was so wild and Penelope the whole time was just like, "Oh.. anyways-". I genuinely never seen a character so unbothered by pure insanity in every song they are in (which was only two馃槶)
Penelope in the challenge: "A supernatural storm just appeared dangerously close to our kingdom in an instant and left just as fast.... My husband must be here!"
Odysseus in the final song: "I treated people as subhuman and murdered hundreds."
Penelope: "Can you pick up our wedding bed?"
Odysseus: "... did you not hea-"
Penelope: "No, I heard. Now pick up the bed."
Odysseus: "No! I worked so hard on that bed!"
Penelope: "Perfect! I still love you."
Odysseus: "I'm a mass murdere-"
Penelope: "And I breathe air. Who cares?"
(Bonus: Penelope was in her room listening to the dying screams of the suitors and was probably like, "Sounds like the boys are having fun馃槉.")
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So normal about how the ENTIRE MUSICAL they are saying that Odysseus will be a different person when he goes home. That he and the monster are separate. That he won't be him anymore. That he died and was replaced by the monster.
AND HOW IN ONE SONG PENELOPE TELLS ODYSSEUS THAT NONE OF THAT IS TRUE, AND WE BELIEVE HER. BECAUSE SHE'S RIGHT.
BECAUSE DESPITE EVERYTHING, IT'S STILL HIM. AND OF COURSE THE ONE WHO LOVES HIM THE MOST KNOWS THAT.
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now that the ithaca saga is out i'd like to just put it out there that, in the original text, after they reunite odysseus and penelope immediately run off to fuck - obviously (20 years at sea away from your wife call that the wettest dry spell mankind's ever seen). BUT while they're getting all hot and heavy, athena decides to put her owl motif to good use and wingman for odysseus by quite literally holding off the dawn until they're fully satisfied (od. 23.345-248). which is just. what a way to end off one of the greatest pieces of storytelling in human history
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Me and my fianc茅
Odysseus: Penelope I am not the same person you fell in love with, I have done terrible things to get home. I understand if you can鈥檛 accept the monstrous things I have done-
Penelope: cool, could you please move this wedding bed
Odysseus: what, no!
Penelope: that鈥檚 my husband
Odysseus: Penelope I have killed so many
Penelope: I don鈥檛 give a shit
Odysseus: I sacrificed my crew-
Penelope: And I would鈥檝e done the same
Odysseus: I am covered in the blood of the suitors
Penelope: and you look fantastic
Odysseus: I TORTURED A GOD ON HIS OWN WEAPON
Penelope: and that was incredibly sexy of you
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BEWARE OF @captain-kopy765
This post is to document and warn those around this user of their toxicity and how they have tried to work someone, who they believed to be a hacker, to delete the socials of @sm-baby and their side blogs. It also appears that they have an obsession with this user as they wanted all the persons socials removed. They have also harassed users for simply disagree with them. I believe that they should be avoided and pushed out of the TADC community and that all admins should kick them from their community. To not clutter anyones desktop all information will be below the cut.
It all started with this post that Kopy has covertly removed from their blog but has been archived here is you need proof of it being real. [https://www.tumblr.com/hushhushyou/770780622075609088/lol-whats-the-tea-for-this?source=share]
Now is the conversation that was had between the user @hushhushyou and Kopy. The first image is to highlight that username and image are the same and give concrete evidence that these messages are real.
From here the images will be cropped for easier reading.
To clarify the user Hush did not hack into any accounts owned by the user SM. Now that is the main point of the beware. The next part will be talking about the toxicity and entitlement of the user Kopy. Starting with a community that Kopy runs. There was this post made -
A hot take but honestly not a big of a deal. Everyone has opinions.
The issue happens after when a user posted this message - this is a screenshot of from the messages we see later but the user claims that they copy and pasted their original response from their reply to this post.
Click to read for better quality.
If you notice the name of the user who posted is named donquixote-dolflamingo this username is Kopy's old user name as show below with a new screenshot that the user took, when I was double checking.
Unlike Hush this user asks to remain anonymous so the name and profile image will be hidden.
Now onto the messages - click for easer readingK
The user has claimed that this interaction has pushed them away from interacting with the community because they fear the rest of thee fandom is more toxic then Kopy. Now I want to share how the user Kopy interacts with their community highlighting how they interact with the community in a way that can be said as rude and toxic. On their own it can be seen as playful. But added to everything here I feel that it adds another insight to their character. Below is the main communities that they are admin to. Incase anyone wants to avoid them.
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I 100% agree with this statement tbh
The shows have always sucked in my opinion and Vivziepop is absolutely the one to blame.
If we put aside all the racism and harmful stereotypes in the shows and behind the scenes, we can see Viv just..plainly sucks at writing??
I mean, how many times does Adam say "fuck". There's gotta be a counter.
Viv has been known to hire problematic people to work on the shows, and it does show; The imagery between Val and Angel is a big one.
So when it comes to people calling Viv and the team out for the shallow writing and the obvious plot twists and the racist stereotypes, they're automatically flamed bc the shows are MEANT to be handling really serious topics. But unfortunately, Viv doesn't write those topics well.
For one, she absolutely SUCKS at writing women. Most of the fan base has an unhealthy obsession with the gay men because they somehow have more layers than the women, who are absolutely 1 layered characters with nothing else to them.
For two, I don't think Viv actually cares about the shows. It feels like AI generated gloop served hot and fresh on a plate of hog skin. There's no life, no humor, and the shows fall flat where other indie shows (TADC, Lackadaisy, etc) shine. Putting effort and inspiration into your work really shows through things like the quality of animation (Murder drones is the best example of this), writing, and even the voice acting! The crews feed off the energy of their director--so if the director is putting minimal effort into the project, everyone else follows suit.
That's why HH/HB are slop. It's minimal effort, corporate run, flat ass shit.
I find Sarcastic Chorus's video on why he's quitting Helluva Boss really interesting but I'm kind of baffled by the number of people straight up not understanding his reasoning for quitting. I think it's interesting how both his video and the online reaction to it is basically the consequences of modern fandoms treating art like its something to mindlessly consume and not worth analyzing and critiqing, or else you're consuming it "wrong".
Like his argument isn't that he hates the show or that he was forcing himself to criticize the show, in fact one of his main problems was that he couldn't be MORE honest in his reviews because of how fans would react to it. The problem was that when your job is to analyze a show, and it has way too many problems to ignore, and you're dealing with a hyper-sensitive fanbase that's hostile to criticism, you end up feeling exhausted or flat out disinterested in reviewing it.
I actually find it really concerning that fans are coping so hard with him quitting that they're framing it like its his problem because he was "looking for problems on purpose" when it was pretty obvious that it genuinely makes him kind of miserable trying to pick apart the show's issues. I remember when he was SO confident that Hazbin Hotel would be amazing and "prove the haters wrong" only for him to acknowledge that it was a complete mess. I'm honestly more confused by the fans who watch a reviewer and then get mad when he... reviews things. It's not even that they disagree with him, but the audacity to even point out very noticeable flaws in the product is enough to set them off and accuse him of being a clout chaser and a hater. Like do you want to see a review or did you just want to watch someone lie to you and blindly praise a series for 30 minutes, because i find it really odd that so many fans are insistent that he should've done the latter.
I also got pretty annoyed by this insistence that he wouldn't have turned on this show if he didnt criticize it and "turned his brain off" instead which is the same stupid excuse people gave for Hazbin's sloppy writing. and I just find that just... baffling? Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, as extremely flawed as they are, are clearly shows made with the clear intention of being taken seriously. Ffs the crew calls Helluva Boss "queer Bojack Horseman". Helluva Boss tackles topics like abuse, trauma, classism, racism, toxic relationships and redemption and Hazbin Hotel tackles themes like sexual trauma and abuse, redemption and religious oppression. But the problem is that both shows do it so poorly that people genuinely think that it's meant to be slop content that you're just supposed to turn your brain off and listen to.
I'm not going to forget when these fans were treating Helluva Boss's season 1 like peak queer representation and writing and insistent that Angel Dust was this amazingly well written gay male character that people only hated because he was messy and imperfect. Honestly kind of funny that I was chastised for saying that Angel Dust is just a sex joke only for the show, the crew, the merch, and even the damn playbill reduce him to just that. Slapping on trauma (especially knowing that its more of a fetish than a genuine exploration on male sexual abuse) doesn't really negate the fact that Angel Dust is poorly written. Side note: his fans are way too unhinged and aggressive, its getting very weird.
So its funny to me that now that Helluva Boss season 2 completely nose dived and Hazbin Hotel is a sloppy mess that feels more geared for children than adults, that now people are being told they're not allowed to analyze these shows or even pay attention to their problems, and are treated like idiots for doing so.
I think the problem is that I kind of think fans also notice the lowered quality of writing in both shows. because why aren't people actually defending the writing and character progression? instead of "Sarcastic Chorus is wrong because his criticism is incorrect and misses these points" its "Sarcastic Chorus is wrong because he should have shut his brain off and treated these shows like its cocomelon for adults"
#vivziepop hired a SA artist to storyboard valendust btw#also not to mention that rosie and mimzy are racial stereotypes of jewish people from WW2#ALSO also viv basically twinkifying every character she can get her hands on??? gross.#the plus sized characters are usually the villains or harmful stereotypes#anyone who actually enjoys the show needs to go watch actually good stuff like steven universe or the owl house
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sometimes you need dialogue tags and don't want to use the same four
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Honestly
Yea lmfao
Straight people are weird
#me n my husband went to the aquarium for christmas#we stared at every damn creature we could for like 5 minutes each#and we made out in front of the sharks
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I have had a vision and I need you all to wait where are you all going wait wait wait please guys hear me out for ONE second it won't take up too much of your time wait guys please don't leave me he
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was suddenly moved to draw a toony sort of character design .. but this is a bit too close to 2013 tumblr sexyman for my own comfort
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