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thatdawgx · 20 days ago

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Holy shit, peak peak, you said stuff I was thinking abt when it comes to gysn but couldn't express it properly in my own words

Giyuu spend his whole life being protected, while Sanemi spend his whole life protecting.

(I'm sorry I have really bad grammar. I wish I wrote all that I had in my head but my stupid ass forgets and can't line them up😭)

They both hate to worry. Giyuu having to worry about people dying having to protect him, while Sanemi hating to worry about people dying in his protection.

Tsutako and Sabito dying to protect Giyuu, Giyu hates being protected, so he tries to not get too attached to people, and too scared to love because he fears they will die, one way or another.

Sanemi's whole family died, and he tried his best to protect his siblings but failed miserably. And him trying to protect Genya by trying to kick him out of the demon slayer corps so he doesn't die on mission. "I wanted you marry someone and have the family we never had." while Sanemi would protected them. Yet, Genya dies as well because he couldn't protect him. (Genya please marry me, I'd be an amazing wife. Sanemi, arrange us.) Sanemi also couldn't protect Masachila from lower moon one on their mission.

Another reason why SaneGiyu wouldn't work.

Giyuu wouldn't allow Sanemi to protect him, if he did, they would both worry their asses off, because they are back to square one, same shit again. It would have been really unhealthy for both. That's why, GiyuSane makes more sense. Trying something new is better then doing the process all over again, same burden, same struggles.

I can see Giyuu big spooning when they sleep together at night, because he worries. What if someone snuck in? What if they try to kill them? Giyuu would big spoon to protect Sanemi, by being the closer target. He'll be the one willing to die first for his loved ones. But Sanemi is like that too? He wouldn't allow it? Sanemi is stubborn, but so is Giyuu. It would be more comfortable AND healthier for Sanemi to be the little spoon then Giyuu. Sanemi experienceing protection is something he needs, and subconsciously wants, but hates to be vulnerable. To finally let his guard down and be vulnerable with someone he loves and trusts. So when Giyuu offers that protection and refuses Sanemi's protection, Sanemi won't have to do the same thing he did all his life, he will now receive something he never had growing up, till now.

In Sanemi's eyes, everyone he protects dies, and in Giyuu's eyes, everyone who protects him dies. They both fear getting too attached to people, so they become these personalities that use bad interactions to be distant, in self defense so they wont lose anyone else. So alike yet so different. So them, switching the roles which got them in this depressive state, is healthier for them.

Another reason why GiyuSane is more in character and healthier then SaneGiyu. Where in SaneGiyu, they won't move on from their trauma. Unhealthy, toxic, and horrible for the both of them.

#demon slayer #giyuu tomioka #sanemi shinazugawa #giyusane #giyuusane

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thatdawgx · 20 days ago

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If only giyuu knew how to communicate, they could have been an amazing duo

Giyuu vs Sanemi sparring thoughts...

The anime specifically made it obvious that Giyuu was fighting and keeping up with Sanemi with a chipped sword. I don't know what it says about Giyuu - whether he does a mediocre job protecting his sword right away (hehe Akaza fight), or that when he DOES fail to protect his sword, he comes out stronger on the other side, matching up with his opponent even with a chipped/broken sword.

But why do his swords get fucked in the first place??? (well TECHNICALLY, it's just foreshadowing-)

I guess it's to show that Giyuu is very, very flexible when it comes to using even a damn broken sword, water breathing and all. Like, hell, he somehow survived Akaza's strongest attack, with a broken sword, a dead calm, and a dream. He ALSO survived getting straight on whipped by Muzan with a broken sword, a dead calm, and a dream. Impressive as hell to me.

And compared to that, his fight against Sanemi wasn't an ALL OUT. He did manage to break Sanemi's sword, and his own half-broken sword held out until then. I think that takes some insane skill. Perhaps it's why Sanemi enjoyed sparring against Giyuu so much. He knew Giyuu would be able to stand any of his attacks, even with a barely usable sword.

To get into the relationship analysis of all that - he trusts Giyuu. He knows Giyuu is strong, and that makes Giyuu's demeanour even more infuriating. Someone as strong as Giyuu MUST have some superiority complex, right? Not like Giyuu does anything to fight the allegations either. I rarely use the anime for reference, but Sanemi was a little too angry at being interrupted by Tanjirou.. wasn't he? He absolutely was having fun against Giyuu. AND IT MAKES ME SAD THAT WE DID NOT GET MORE MOMENTS OF THEM FIGHTING TOGETHER OR AGAINST EACH OTHER.

It does make me wonder though, if Giyuu was a "use anything at your disposal" kind of fighter to the extent of Sanemi... how much stronger would he be? I don't think he needs the extra strength, considering he's already, y'know, a damn good fighter, but oh we'd see some crazy moments with him.

#demon slayer #sanemi shinazugawa #giyuu tomioka #sanegiyuu

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thatdawgx · 21 days ago

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Hehehe first time I've ever drawn sanegiyuu >:3

#demon slayer #sanemi shinazugawa #giyuu tomioka #sanegiyuu #art

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thatdawgx · 21 days ago

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Theyre on a date

#demon slayer #kimetsu no yaiba #sanemi shinazugawa #rengoku kyojuro #saneren

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thatdawgx · 23 days ago

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No one ever talks about the parallels between tsugikuni brothers with the shinazugawa brothers besides the most obvious stuff but I'm going to talk about some parallel that I'm posting now in case I forget later

The way each one of brothers remembers their respective brother's smile

Both Sanemi and Yoriichi were described as people who rarely or never smiled by their respective brothers

But while Michikatsu described Yoriichi's smile as something disturbing,

Genya described Sanemi's smile as kind and says how much he & his siblings loved it; also while in swordsmith village arc, when his life flashed before his eyes, one of the last things he saw was an image of Sanemi smiling

#demon slayer #sanemi shinazugawa #genya shinazugawa #yoriichi tsugikuni #michikatsu tsugikuni #kokushibo #shinazugawa brothers #tsugikuni twins #ramblings #kny analysis #I should have never picked up this series #these fuckers brought me so much pain and agony #I shed more tears on these rats than on deaths of my relatives

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thatdawgx · 23 days ago

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Sorry to break it to you but the part where giyuu cries over shinobu's death is not canon, and the scene where giyuu asks about shinobu is an anime only scene (same thing with the so called "confession scene"), you fell for their propaganda 😔😔

Does anyone else get pissed off when someone is naming all the dead people that sanemi considered important and they mention kanae for some reason???

"Poor sanemi he lost his mother, genya, his other siblings, masachika and kanae" what does kanae even contribute to his character at all??? I saw a person get jumped by ppl on twitter cuz they mentioned how she is not important to sanemi's character at all and shit I agree; she literally did nothing to be even considered important to him, sanemi doesn't even have some special dialogue abt her or anything

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thatdawgx · 30 days ago

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Sanegiyuu if it was peak

#demon slayer #sanemi shinazugawa #giyuu tomioka #muichiro tokito #giyuusane #sanegiyuu #I originally planned to draw genya there #and i thought #abt adding yuichiro w them but got lazy #so let's just say that he got aborted

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thatdawgx · 1 month ago

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Tengen would def post thirst-traps on tiktok But☝️ I believe with my whole heart Sanemi & Obanai would be making fun of him to hellll and back while Zenitsu comments “kys”

#demon slayer #sanemi shinazugawa #tengen uzui #obanai iguro #Zenitsu Agatsuma #so real

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thatdawgx · 1 month ago

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#sanemi shinazugawa #genya shinazugawa #demon slayer #signs of the wind #shinazugawa brothers #this series need to pay me a therapy #I hate these brothers

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thatdawgx · 1 month ago

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From that part "rubbed off her self-sacrificial nature" I knew it was something I said lol; I agree with everything you said, she wasn't neither and amazing mom or an bad mom but she tried her best she could with her circumstances, the part where I said abt her nature rubbing off sanemi & genya was never abt me blaming shizu, I was just pointing how she unintentionally rubbed off her nature onto them ya know cuz she was the only positive adult they could've looked up to and ironically they ended up picking up the worst parts of her nature, I know she would have never wanted them to go do the stuff they're doing rn (btw pls don't think I'm attacking you or anything, I'm just explaining why I even said that part)

Shizu Shinazugawa: What Makes a Good Mother?

We know very little about Shizu as a character; what little information we are given about her is through the lens of her children, who adore her. We are, however, able to infer a lot about how her life may have been based on time period and location and the few snippets from the light novels and show that we are given.

The question of what makes a good mother is a topic that's been debated both philosophically and scientifically. A good mother is wise and firm but soft; they are future-oriented, but they cannot prioritize the future over the now. They are present, but they are working; they must be in control without being controlling, and they must teach responsibility without putting pressure. It is a tightrope of expectations, a dichotomy, a job where the rules are changing constantly as society changes and we continue to evolve.

Everyone has a different answer when asked what makes a good mother. However, I feel that saying Shizu was a good or bad mother neglects the nuance of her situation. I have seen multiple people assert whether Shizu falls into the good mother or bad mother category, and I wanted to explore that topic in this essay and explain why the answer is much more complicated than "good" or "bad" or yes or no.

It is important to remember that, at the end of the day, our mothers are human and are prone to mistakes, and sometimes, circumstances can force our hands to make choices we otherwise wouldn't make.

One major circumstance would be her economic position in society; there is much evidence to suggest that the Shinazugawas were considered hinmin or, simply put, extremely poor. From the descriptions and depictions of their home to the light novels outright calling them poor to Genya's comment about sleeping when he gets hungry, Gotouge does not shy away from their economic situation.

Not only that, but as I've discussed before, she functioned as essentially a single mother. Kyogo is repeatedly referred to as "unreliable" and is described as "this man who walked around, breath stinking of alcohol from morning until night, who hit Mom whenever he got the chance." From that line, we can infer that he was also an alcoholic. Now, this is speculation, but it is unlikely he was able to hold down a job, and he probably blew through any money he did bring in on buying alcohol. The beatings, judging by what little we're shown, look to be particularly brutal.

Divorce wasn't entirely uncommon in the Meiji and Taisho eras of Japan however, it often was in the husband's favor. Shizu had few options for recourse that wouldn't completely abandon her children.

Now, we know that Kyogo was a contemptible man who beat his wife and children, hated not just by his family but the people around him. The wiki (I can't find the exact source) states he was stabbed to death in the street due to other people's resentment of him.

We also know that Kyogo died while Sanemi was very young, mid-teens at the latest. While this would bring relief from the beatings, Shizu would still have to face the challenges of being a single mother in Japan with seven children.

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The Meiji period is often considered the low point in Japan's history of women's rights. It saw the institutionalization of the patriarchal family system (ie seido) and a sharp uptick in the mistreatment of women.

In Japan (and indeed, in many nations), women are expected to manage the household. This is perhaps best exemplified by a common saying in post-World War I Japan: "Good wife; Wise mother." Many women of the time internalized this saying. With it came strict expectations of what defined womanhood for Meiji-era Japan and beyond.

This one phrase shifted the entire division of labor amongst the sexes: women became entirely responsible for domestic labor, and with it came societal expectations. It was the woman's job to uphold the household, please her husband, and raise the children. Thus, any failure of the above would mark her as a failure as a woman.

Single mothers are often viewed through this highly critical lens. Even if they are the ones to initiate the divorce, the blame for the marriage not working is often laid at their feet.

"But Shizu didn't divorce Kyogo!"

Setting aside the fact that society at large wouldn't have the full context of Shizu's situation, widows also did not receive much sympathy. The late Meiji saw the rise of the term Mibojin (Or "the not-yet-dead-one"). The intended connotation of this word is that the woman should have died with her husband and that it is somehow shameful that she didn't.

There was a high level of discrimination against widows and very little in the way of safety nets for them. While I'm unable to find the exact wage gap between women and men in Taisho Japan, the modern wage gap is about 30.2%, so for every 100 yen a man makes, women make about 70 yen.

Not only that, but single mothers are often forced to take part-time or low-paying jobs. The poverty rate of single-parent homes in Japan is 56%, which is staggering. (For reference, America, another country with poor social safety nets for struggling mothers, has a single-parent poverty rate of 33.5%.) Now, while these are modern statistics, it is important to note that many of the societal issues that caused these numbers arose during the Meiji and Taisho eras—when Shizu would have been alive.

This is to say that Shizu faced many societal pressures at the time, which led to her most likely having little to no support networks or reliable income. Genya himself says this: "My mother was always working, from morning until night. Not once did I ever see her sleeping."

One of the main criticisms I've seen of Shizu is that she is overly reliant on Sanemi (and, to some extent, Genya, but mostly Sanemi) to the point that he was parentified. Now, for those that may not have heard this term before, parentification is a term that was coined in 1967 and is used to describe a sort of role reversal where a child or adolescent (teen) is made to support the family in ways that are developmentally inappropriate.

Think of this example: Your mother asks you to help her cook and gives you small, age-appropriate tasks, versus you are expected to cook and provide a meal for the family by yourself. The second example is parentification.

There are two types of parentification: instrumental and emotional. Instrumental parentification encompasses the physical tasks of cleaning, cooking, and working, whereas emotional parentification occurs when a child is made to be a confidant or mediator.

For Sanemi (and, to a lesser extent, Genya), we can surmise that he was at least instrumentally parentified as he worked to put food on the table. It is highly likely he was emotionally parentified, as he was described as Shizu's 'right-hand' and as taking care of his siblings as well. This role would have been incredibly burdensome for a child.

However, it's unlikely that Shizu has any other choice.

On a personal note, Shizu's situation reminds me of my Abuelita. While obviously not an exact one-to-one, I will admit to feeling a bit of a connection with her. A single mother living in poverty with too many children to possibly keep them all fed.

She often relied on my dad and his older brother to care for their little sisters, but only because she had to. She had to work day and night so they would have a roof over their heads and some food—so they could survive, first and foremost. If she had had a choice, she would have never placed that burden on them, and I see that reflected in how I personally view Shizu. From what little we are shown from the boy's POV, it paints the picture of a kind and caring woman who would lay down her life for her children.

It doesn't necessarily make it right or fair that Sanemi had to take on those burdens at such a young age; breadwinner, child-rearer, confidant. But, to lay the blame entirely at Shizu's feet is to imply that she had control.

Another criticism I've seen is that she neglected Sanemi and Genya. This likely comes from Genya's line: "I was the second oldest after Sanemi, and Mom was always too busy taking care of our little brothers and sisters, so she never really babied me."

We can guess from this that if she didn't baby Genya as the second eldest, she was unlikely to baby Sanemi, especially since Genya himself asks, "Who on earth was there to baby him?"

As tragic as it is, this is relatively common for parentified older siblings in large families. They are overlooked in favor of the youngest, who can't care for themselves as well as the older children can.

However, from the way Genya and Sanemi talk about her, it is undeniable that they adored her. Something my dad told me about my grandmother stuck out to me: "In all the years she raised us, she never told us she loved us. But we knew because she worked day and night for us. We didn't need her to tell us constantly."

It is clear that Shizu loved her children in her actions—the way she throws herself between them and Kyogo, the way she works day and night, and the overflowing affection Sanemi describes feeling from her.

While this doesn't change that she didn't give them the attention they needed, it wasn't from a lack of caring.

A third criticism I've seen is that Shizu should not have had so many children if she couldn't support them. Putting aside that this lays all of the blame for conception at the woman's feet, it also ignores other factors, like the anti-abortion laws of the Meiji period and with the popularized fukoku kyohei slogan of the time, contraceptives were heavily discouraged. And considering Kyogo's controlling and abusive disposition, abstinence may not have been an option.

The final criticism I have seen is that Shizu allowed her self-sacrificial nature to rub off on her children. To this, I ask, what would you have her do? Yes, she sacrificed everything for her children out of love, however, giving anything less could have meant the difference between life and death for her children.

Based on what little we see of her, I think it can be concluded that Shizu did the best she could with the few resources and graces afforded to her. While she certainly made mistakes, I do not think this qualifies her as a good or bad mother.

TLDR: Shizu's situation is very complicated, and she did the best that she could. She was certainly a flawed mother, but not necessarily an outright bad mother. Societal and economic pressures forced her to be overly reliant on her eldest children, but there is evidence that she truly loved and cared for them. While there are certainly valid criticisms to be made, it is important to consider all the circumstances that led her to make those decisions in the first place.

And now for some sources I didn't link in the above analysis: Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here.

#demon slayer #kimetsu no yaiba #ramblies #kny analysis #sanemi shinazugawa #genya shinazugawa #shizu shinazugawa #shinazugawa brothers

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thatdawgx · 1 month ago

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If Sanemi and Genya had been able to grow up in a normal household, what about their characters would you think would be different? We know in Gakuen they don’t have their dad around since he died when they were young, so would you say that’s an accurate representation of how Sanemi particularly would still be without that aspect in their lives?

Thank you so much for the ask!! And definitely an interesting one, too!

So, for this question, I pose the question of what you consider to be a normal household. Many factors shape Sanemi into the character that we see, their father being only one factor. Two major formative contenders, I would argue, are poverty and the parentification of children.

There is, of course, a plethora of studies on how poverty can affect a child's developmental outcome (such as this one), including stunting of emotional growth, something we see in Sanemi that is worsened by his traumatic experiences. In canon, Shizu essentially functioned as a single mother as not only was Kyogo described as "good for nothing," but he also died early on in Sanemi's life in canon as well as in Kimegaku.

From what little we are shown of Sanemi's early life, we can infer a lot; he is described as Shizu's "right hand," and Genya says that he works even though he is a kid. Based on laws around this time, Sanemi would have been the head of the household. From a very young age, Sanemi has a lot of pressure on his shoulders to help his mother raise six other kids and make enough money to keep food on the table.

We know he took this very seriously and had to grow up fast, Genya notes that he acts and sounds like an adult. We know their family was looked down on and picked on by other kids in more fortunate positions, like the landlord's son. This is likely where he gets his inferiority issues.

While Kyogo's abuse certainly had an effect on Sanemi, I'd argue that his absence in caring for the family played the biggest part in shaping Sanemi in canon, as Sanemi had to step up and sort of fill in his role in the family.

Of course, things are a little different in modern times. For one, there are child labor laws in place, so Sanemi can't have been the family's breadwinner. However, as the responsibility to bring money and food to the table shifts more to be on Shizu's shoulders, I feel this places the responsibility of watching the children more on Sanemi.

In Kimegaku we have this: "He'd be going to her workplace to pick her up, or else he'd be at home babysitting his younger siblings. Shinazugawa's father had died when he was young, and his mother had sacrificed a lot to raise seven children on her own. Now that Shinazugawa was an adult himself, his heart and mind were focused on supporting her."

This seems to show that Shizu spent all her time working while Sanemi babysat his siblings, something he continues to do to this day. Sanemi is described as a family man first and foremost and a bit of a "homebody."

There's also the fact that while there's nothing to indicate that Kyogo abused them, there's nothing to indicate that he didn't. And it doesn't specify when Kyogo died, though Sanemi had to have been at least in his teens, judging by how young his youngest siblings still are.

That's not to say I think Kimegaku Sanemi and canon Sanemi are completely the same, but I do think the writers of Kimegaku were afraid to take artistic liberty with the characters, and by that, I mean they didn't want to deviate too much from the source material lest the character become unrecognizable on the surface level.

TLDR: While I do think Kyogo's abuse deeply affected Sanemi in canon, I think Kimegaku Sanemi is very similar to canon Sanemi because they still had similar experiences growing up: He was a parentified older sibling to six little siblings who grew up in likely impoverished conditions with a single mother.

#demon slayer #ramblies #shinazugawa brothers #kny analysis #sanemi shinazugawa #genya shinazugawa

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