#zionist antisemitism

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For the record Le Pen grew up calling Hitler “Uncle Dolfi” just leaving that here. She is from a party that was created by actual WW2 Nazis.

Fascists 🫱🏼‍🫲🏻 Zionists 🫱🏼‍🫲🏻 Nazis

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Being an antizionist Jew, very much not the only one around, and seeing goyim talk about how allegedly antizionists just mean “zionist” to say “Jew”, is sure fucking something.

Also, no matter if you’re a goy or if you’re Jewish, *this* is equating zionism and Judaism. Fuck you.

Zionist does not mean Jew and zionist is not a fucking “certain kind of Jew”. Zionism is an ideology that must have. no. place. No matter who carries it, and we very much do remember goyische zionists.

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Edit: tankies fuck off, you are not any better just because it’s different genocides and empires you support.

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Ron Dermer: “The lesson of the Holocaust is that the Jewish people need power”

Dermer said that his top two priorities as strategic affairs minister were ensuring that Iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon, and to “expand the circle of peace” between Israel and countries in the Arab world

Ambassador Ron and Rhoda Dermer (at left) are honored at the March of the Living's gala in Miami on Jan. 10, 2023.

By eJewishPhilanthropy staff ⋅ January 10, 2023

At the 35th anniversary gala of the March of the Living, Israeli Minister Ron Dermer said that the lesson of the Holocaust is that “the Jewish people need power.”

Dermer, who previously served as Israel’s ambassador to the United States and now serves as the Israeli minister of strategic affairs, was the main honoree of the gala alongside his wife, Rhoda. The event, which took place at the Beth Torah Benny Rok Campus, a Conservative synagogue in Miami, also included a tribute to Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau, the former Ashkenazi chief rabbi of Israel. 

“The Holocaust took everything away from the Jewish people. For the victims, it took away their property, it took away their dignity. It ultimately took away their lives,” Dermer said. “But it is very important not to take the Holocaust itself away from the Jewish people. Because there has been an attempt in recent years to universalize the Holocaust, to turn it into another genocide, another massacre that happened. And I understand why people want to do that, because they want it to resonate with people outside of the Jewish community. I understand that.”

He added, “What is the lesson of the Holocaust to the Jews? Is the lesson that we have to teach tolerance? Did we need six million to die to teach tolerance?… We didn’t need the Holocaust to teach tolerance. The lesson of the Holocaust is that the Jewish people need power. That’s the lesson of the Holocaust.”

“Jews are uniquely uncomfortable with the idea of power because there’s a price of power,” he said. “You know what that price is? It’s imperfection. When you are sovereign, you are imperfect. When you are a victim, you can be morally perfect. I would rather be sovereign and imperfect.”

Speaking at the gala, Dermer recounted an instance when, while serving as ambassador, he visited Majdanek, the Nazi death camp, which he called “the most surreal moment that I’ve had… in my entire life.” While outside the camp’s crematorium, he received a secure call from Israel’s and the United States’ national security advisers about an impending American airstrike in Syria and how Israel would be involved in the operation.

“While this call is happening, and while we were talking about who’s going to bomb what when, I had an image of a five-story chimney to my left and a three-story mound of human ash to my right—the ultimate symbol of Jewish powerlessness—and here I was, privileged to be the ambassador of the sovereign Jewish state of Israel, speaking to the most important ally that we have.”

Dermer—who has served for decades as a close adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu—said that his top two priorities as minister were ensuring that Iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon, and to “expand the circle of peace” between Israel and countries in the Arab world that grew through the 2020 Abraham Accords. He also hopes that Israel “will be the most important ally of the United States in the 21st century.”

“Prime Minister Netanyahu is determined to expand it and we hope to work very closely with the Biden administration,” Dermer said. “I think the policy towards Iran is a critical part of expanding that because I think it opens the space for Arab leaders to move into a public alliance with Israel as we face this common enemy together.”

Well, this is depressing.

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Zionists praising the Reconquista in an attempt to hate on Al Andalus and hate on Muslims is really something when you know that the Golden Age of Judaism in Spain was during Al Andalus and the first thing the Catholics did after the Reconquista was kicking out Jewish people (who were welcomed by Muslims North Africans)

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“Antizionists just mean Jew/disobedient Jew when they say ‘zionist’” = “anti-terfs just mean woman/lesbian/disobedient woman/disobedient lesbian when they say ‘terf’”

Signed, a Jew.

Edit because apparently that wasn’t clear enough: signed, an antizionist, anti-terf Jewish trans lesbian.

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It probably won't be long before YouTube tries to outright DELETE the song and/or ban Macklemore.

Youtube doing this while fully fucking enabling the alt right pipeline with dozens if not hundreds of racist/anti semitic grifters on their platform for decades at this point is an insane double standard.

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Despite Beck’s rejection of the critique, he also made other comments that can be labeled as antisemitic. Beck falsely claimed that Soros, as a boy, helped to “send the Jews to the death camps” and repeated the unsubstantiated conspiracy theory that Soros caused the 1997 Asian financial crisis, which raised ears of a worldwide economic meltdown due to financial contagion. During a discussion on his radio show about Soros and a group of progressive rabbis who had spoken out against Beck’s demonization of Soros, the radio host said that Reform rabbis are “generally political in nature. It’s almost like radicalized Islam in a way… radicalized Islam is less about religion than it is about politics… When you look at the Reform Judaism, it is more about politics.”

Those like Beck who are accused of reproducing antisemitic tropes often defend themselves with their support for the State of Israel. In Beck’s above-mentioned clip, he defended himself against the allegations by emphasizing his solidarity with Israel. Deborah Lipstadt noted that “[b]eing simultaneously anti-semitic and pro-Israel seems to be possible.” Lipstadt referred to white supremacist Richard Spencer, who depicted Israel as an example of the “ethno-state” he wanted to create in the United States, where non-whites, including Jews, would be ghettoized away from white people. Steve Bannon stated that “I’m proud to stand with the state of Israel. That’s why I’m proud to be a Christian Zionist. That is why I’m proud to be a partner of one of the greatest nations on earth and the foundation of the Judeo-Christian West.” In the same speech, Bannon called Trump “the strongest supporter of Israel, since Ronald Reagan.” Sebastian Gorka, a Hungarian-American military analyst and former advisor to Trump, ex-pressed his support for the antisemitic paramilitary group Hungarian Guard and is a member of another historic Hungarian far-right group that was aligned with the Nazis during the Second World War. Yet he denied accusations of his anti-semitism by claiming that “America is the greatest nation created by man, and Israel is the greatest nation created by God.” There are many other examples of ‘alliances’ between far-right antisemites and right-wing Israelis. For instance, in the European Parliament, members of the AfD, UKIP, and other nationalist and populist parties established the pro-settlement lobby group “Friends of Judea and Samaria in the European Parliament.”

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In France when the left made their union for this weekend’s election they negotiated while eating pizzas.

Delogu, the French Algerian* representative who pulled out the Palestinian flag at the National Assembly last month, posted a video for his campaign. In the video there’s a frozen pizza with the words “bake in oven”. Right after you see far right figures being defeated. It’s a reference to how the left negotiated around pizzas to defeat the far right nothing more. The pizza chosen is also the first image that appears when you google frozen pizza.

The Zionists are calling him antisemitic because there’s the word “oven”. One of the most violent Zionist in the country appears as one of the far right figures getting defeated and he is even TAKING DELOGU TO COURT for antisemitism over the frozen pizza…

I’m not kidding if you’re pro Palestine frozen pizza is antisemitic now. I don’t even know what to say at this point.

Note: Delogu is also Armenian, Spanish and Italian but when people hate on him and target him they mention the Palestinian flag and the fact that he kissed an Algerian flag or has the Algerian flag in his bio. It’s always about his Algerianness despite the fact that he also has the Armenian, Spanish and Italian flags in his bio.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/JewsOfConscience/comments/1aef2x5/comment/kk7prli

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Top Members of Far-right Swedish Party With neo-Nazi Roots Meet Israeli Minister in Knesset (Haaretz, January 29, 2024)

I’m reminded of a study that Peter Beinart wrote about on European antisemitism and how it is moderated by support for Israel.

Beinart explains, citing the findings of a study by Andras Kovacs, a sociologist and professor of Jewish Studies at the Central European University, and Gyorgy Fischer, the former research director for Gallup in Hungary:

In Europe, the story appears somewhat similar, but with a disturbing twist. This fall, Andras Kovacs, a sociologist and professor of Jewish Studies at the Central European University, and Gyorgy Fischer, the former research director for Gallup in Hungary, published a fascinating study entitled, “Antisemitic Prejudices in Europe.” To some degree, the evidence they find resembles evidence from the US. As a general rule, for instance, Western Europeans like Jews more but Israel less whereas Eastern Europeans like Jews less but Israel more. For instance, Romania, Poland and the Czech Republic exhibit some of the continent’s highest rates of both support for Israel and hostility to Jews. In Britain, Sweden and the Netherlands, by contrast, sympathy for Israel is far lower and so is antisemitism.

The reasons for this aren’t a mystery. Kovacs and Fischer find a strong correlation between antisemitism and xenophobia. “Antisemitism,” they write, “is largely a manifestation and consequence of resentment, distancing and rejection towards a generalised stranger.” Which is why Europe’s most antisemitic countries are also the most Islamophobic. But the very xenophobia that leads some Europeans—especially Eastern Europeans—to dislike Jews can also make them admire Israel.

The Beinart Notebook - Are Zionists more antisemitic than anti-Zionists?

Beinart states that the reason for this contradictory support is xenophobia and an admiration of Israel’s policies.

Israel, after all, has exactly the kind of immigration policy that many European xenophobes want for their own countries: an immigration policy that welcomes members of the dominant group and keeps out pretty much everyone else. Moreover, if you’re a xenophobe who dislikes the Jews in your country because they dilute ethnic and religious purity, Israel offers them a place to go and be with their own kind. That’s one of the reasons Arthur Balfour embraced Zionism in 1917. He liked the idea of a Jewish homeland in Palestine in part because he wanted Eastern European Jews to go there and not to his country.

The Beinart Notebook - Are Zionists more antisemitic than anti-Zionists?

In a nutshell, the study found a “strong correlation between antisemitism and xenophobia”—and Peter noted that xenophobic countries admired Israel, because they wanted to emulate similar policies towards immigrants.

While this news article in-question is about a Swedish figure (and Sweden overall, Peter notes, is less xenophobic, less antisemitic and thus, less pro-Israel), I think the politics at play here makes it applicable to Peter’s thesis. The Swedish party in-question are categorically fascist, ultra-nationalists. So one could see why they would find common cause with the far-right in Israel who would like to expel the Palestinians.

In England, one can observe a similar phenomena with the alliance between the English Defense League (EDL), in particular Tommy Robinson, and right-wing Zionists. The EDL has a branch for British Jewish members—and notable pro-Israel activists are supporters of such right-wing groups.

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Haaretz - Why the U.K.’s neo-Nazis Are Posing With Israeli Flags

Robinson in particularly has been coddled by right-wing Zionists, who have paid his legal fees when he continually fucks up in life.

The Philadelphia-based think tank Middle East Forum is one of the British extremist’s biggest sponsors. Daniel Pipes, MEF’s president, confirmed to The Times of Israel that his group has spent roughly $60,000 on three demonstrations defending Robinson’s legal trial.

The Jerusalem Post - Why are US ‘pro-Israel’ groups boosting a far-right, anti-Muslim UK extremist?

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And they actively commit antisemitism when a Jewish person protests against Israel's genocides.

Those who protest against Israel's genocide are punished for antisemitism.

But for some strange reason, authorities have never cracked down on antisemitism any other time. Any other time, antisemitism is considered free speech.

It's almost as if they know damn well that protesting against Israel is not antisemitism.