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flightyquinn · 2 years ago
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No.
As much as it pains me to argue on the side of a shit take, this is an even worse take. This is a straw man, and there's no way in hell you don't know it. Framing the argument as "capacity for violence" is disingenuous. Framing the argument as simply about the "status quo" is blatantly disingenuous. You know that's not what people mean when they argue the X-Men is a bad allegory because "mutants are dangerous", because mutants are actually dangerous.
Not simply conceptually, but physically. Not simply consciously, but inherently. Mutants in comics are capable of unintentionally causing harm simply by existing.
If Scott Summers (aka Cyclops), one of the good guys, has his glasses knocked off in a public space, he can't help but emit dangerous beams that hurt people from his eyes. And this has happened before.
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Kevin Ford (aka Wither) causes any organic matter in contact with him to decay. He can't control it or turn it off. The day his power manifested, it killed his father. Oh, and also his powers give him a literal compulsion to use them deliberately, regardless of his wishes.
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Incidentally, Rogue was also in the "can kill or permanently harm anyone who comes into contact with them even if they don't want to" club for most of her life.
Jenny Takeda is codenamed "Hazmat" because she literally can't help emitting deadly radiation, and has to wear a containment suit to not kill everyone around her.
In "Ultimate X-Men #41" we see an unnamed teen who kills a total of 265 people when his mutant "power" to cause anyone near him to spontaneously combust awakens.
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How do the X-Men help him to get his powers under control? They don't. The guy with the healing factor goes in to perform a mercy kill.
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The point is, sure, not every character in X-Men is an existential threat, but some of them are. Some of them legitimately can cause harm to others without meaning to, simply by existing. You can't ignore that and try to make it some kind of "all people have a capacity for violence" argument when the point you're trying to counter is that some mutants are inherently dangerous. Nor are they just a threat to social constructs, but threats in a real, physical sense.
That's what people mean when they say it's a bad allegory. Because there's a difference between "LGBT people might experience justified anger" and "a bad result in the genetic lottery could slaughter an entire town." It seems harder to argue against the hand-wringers when they have examples of how someone legitimately could kill or injure people just by existing.
I want to finish up by saying that at the end of the day, it's still a shit take to say that X-Men is a bad allegory for that, though.
First of all, an allegory doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to get the point across. The emotional message is more important than the accuracy of the story, and some things are just there to make readers engaged. Plus, between the need to make a marketable product, executive meddling, and multiple authors working on the property, it's only natural that there'd be inconsistency in the narrative. That doesn't matter if there's a valid lesson to be learned.
If anything, though, I'd say there being genuinely dangerous mutants strengthens the message. It's not as though every person in the real world is stable and well intentioned. Some people choose violence. Some are mentally unstable. Just like the "dangerous" mutants don't represent the entirety of mutantkind, dangerous people in a group don't represent the entirity of that group.
Like, I'm not gonna say that the X-Men and their various imitators are anything like a perfect allegory, but "it's a bad allegory because super powers really are dangerous" has never held water for me. Like, are we really just gonna uncritically accept the implicit assumption lurking in that argument that bigotry is only wrong to the extent that its targets lack the ability to threaten the status quo? Hand-wringing over whether certain minorities are inherently dangerous is – and, critically, always has been – a smoke-screen for the real conversation about who has the right to possess the capacity for violence, and you can't engage with that conversation if your opening move is to concede that the only legitimate victim is a powerless one.
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hypewinter · 1 year ago
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Right so what if Danny became a psychologist instead of Jazz?
His friends and family died protecting him. So when he runs away and starts a new life, he adopts traits from all of them (both as a way of grieving and a way to honor them). For Tucker and Sam, Danny splits his free time between being a white hat hacker and a vocal environmental activist. For his parents, he adopts more of their eccentric personality. When he's not in a professional setting, he is loud and in your face about the latest thing he's been working on (he's also just about the most loyal person you can meet).
And for Jazz, his precious big sister, Danny decides to excel in the career path she never got the chance to enter. He resolves to fulfill her goal of helping out those society has deemed irredeemable. The ones nobody else can or wants to help. The first one he starts with, is the Joker.
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nostalgebraist · 3 months ago
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Due to recent experiences, I am feeling an urge to make an anti-drug-style PSA except it's warning impressionable machine-learning-curious teens to never, ever try a thing called "Huggingface transformers Trainer"
Not. Even. Once.
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magicpiano · 3 months ago
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One thing that I think most 'Tim joins the batfam early' fics miss is that Tim, a very intelligent and independent child who has been doing a dangerous hobby for years, would hate being adopted actually. All the new rules meant to keep him safe? At best annoying, at worst he feels like he is in prison.
To Tim, he just lost his freedom, privacy, and independence, no matter how good the batfam is in reality.
"I need to tell you when I am leaving the house, where I am going and how long I will be gone? The bare minimum parents typically ask from their middle school aged children? No."
Normal good responsible parenting would be torture for Tim.
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kahluah · 5 months ago
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*puts hand up* sorry I’m very new here what’s the context with what’s happening with the tag war??
Alright, I will give my run down, but I will not be naming any blog names on either side even if I have the info and the action was net positive. I just like to use my blog to scroll and reblog for the most part and refuse to embroil myself in the drama more than just giving my view on it as a bystander. One that definitely has an opinion on the events, but also as someone who would rather curate my own experience than fight.
So all this fighting that is going on, it used to just happen in the normal "Jiang Cheng" tag because back then there was no "canon Jiang Cheng" tag; it had not been created yet. (By that I mean it was not a tag used as a tag, Tumblr's shitty search algorithm might still show posts if one typed it in to the search bar because those posts had the words 'canon', 'Jiang', and 'Cheng' in the tags separately, but there would not be posts with "#canon Jiang Cheng" because nobody normally creates a post with a tag like that when "#Jiang Cheng" was suffice. Sometimes I see irrelevant posts in the canon Jiang Cheng tag, but the actual tag isn't on the post, the tags just happen to have all three words in them. Those I ignore because that is Tumblr's fault, not the poster.)
The fighting was between people that like the character and prefer to see the good in him and the interpretation of his character, and those that may or may not like the character (just because you like a character does not mean you need to defend their every action after all) but do not share that opinion of his character and have a more neutral or negative portrayal by contrast. The former also tended to favor or have only read the novel as it is the source material for all other adaptations.
Now things really came to a head when hate and threats were being thrown about on posts that were just quotes from the book showing the negative actions of Jiang Cheng. The people posting the quotes were basically told "if you hate the character why don't you just tag the post as anti-JC?!" but is it really right to call those anti posts when they were posting how the character acts in the source material? That is the character. That is how he acted. Look it is in the book! The character really did that! It is not somebody's negative headcanon that the character may act like that, it is something the character actually did. Personally I can not consider that as an anti character post, and neither did the people who made posts like that.
But things did get heated enough that some people finally took a step back and said "Fine. You want us to make our own space to make these posts so that you do not have to see us talk about JC this way? We will. It will be #canon Jiang Cheng and you can block it if you don't want to see the posts." Was the name picked in the spirit of schadenfreude? Very probable, but it is also not an incorrect name as the people who wanted to use it base their opinion on the novel. But the point was that the tag was created so that people now had their own space to make the posts they wanted and those that did not want to see it could block the tag. Curate your own experience; we can block tags on this site for a reason and advertising tags to block is a courtesy. (Because as said previously, the search here sucks, because the posts contain the character's name they are still likely to show up in the main tag, but block the newly created tag and you will not see those posts either way). Could the other people come into the tag in good faith and make arguments with textual support? Yeah, that was welcomed, but in the spirit of debate they should expect rebuttal. Was that what happened? No.
No instead what happened was basically this meme
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They did not like the name chosen for the tag. They read the novel too and still believe that JC is good, so they should be able to use the tag too! Never mind the fact that the tag was made so they could block the posts they didn't want to see. So that they can go on with their days no longer having to deal with the people they constantly fought with. No. Instead of curating the experience of this website, they would get so hung up on the fact that there was now a tag called #canon Jiang Cheng in use that they had to use it too to defend JC from the people that post 'negative' things about him; even if it is novel text!
So while the fighting didn't stop, it did get slightly better because not everyone felt the need to jump into the new tag to defend their fave. Some people actually did curate their experience. Plus there is a block button and people do use it, so things got to a point where I would say it was relatively stable even if there was still fights here and there. (But once again I lurk, I do not participate. Things may not have been the same for more outspoken people).
But then a certain muskrat bought Twitter and a chunk of the fandom there fled here. That's when the main push to "reclaim the tag" and the new influx of people hopping into the tag to argue and defend their fave appeared. These people did not know why the tag was made, they just saw blogs that they liked telling people about the "JC-antis" that made it and how with the new people pouring into the Tumblr fandom from twitter, they had a chance to flood it and reclaim it. And since then the fighting has not really stopped.
As for what has happened in the past few days, you have JC defenders flooding the tag with fan art (not canon), screen caps from CLQ (not canon), and screenshots of a sentence or two from the novel (canon, but usually out of context or lacking additional lines that go on to rebut what was previously said) in the tag and the people who made the tag for a specific purpose getting mad about the spam. (I block so I have no clue how big the influx was or whatever but there was definitely like at least 3 new people I had to block). So when they made posts venting the anger, you got JC defenders coming back to them and going "But I never sent any hate or harassment! I just used the tag to talk about the canon character!" And perhaps they didn't, but these people in their defense always ignore and never respond to the question of why they are in the tag instead of blocking it because that is what the tag was made for. Instead they come back with "Well if you want to talk about JC that way, why don't you post in the anti tag or make your own tag!"... Remember that meme picture I used above. Yup.
The tag war began because people did not like negative posts about JC in the main character tag for JC. When told to use the anti tag or make a new tag, a new tag was made, but instead of curating the experience the stans of JC got so tilted at the name of the tag that they decided that they would come into the tag and continue the fight instead of just blocking it. Twitter fallout made the fighting worse. And now we have come full circle to the JC stans once again telling people to just use the anti tag or make their own tag.
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asgodintended · 7 months ago
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the tradwife-ication of jason todd is so bad literally bruce didn't even need to pyschic lobotomy him and try to send him to metropolis. the fandom has already done that
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puppppppppy · 8 months ago
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i feel like im not making any sense but does anyone else feel like there are stories that let u run with them and ones that spell everything out for you
#im reading that post that says artists are directors of audience reaction and not its dictator:#'you cannot guarantee that everyone viewing your work will react as you are trying t make them react. a good artist knows that this is what#allows work to breath. by definition you cannot have art where the viewer brings nothing to the table ... this is why you have to let go of#the urge to plainly state in text exactly how you think the work should be interpreted ... its better to be misinterpreted sometimes than#to talk down to your audience. you wont even gain any control that way; people will still develop their opinions no matter what you do#im thinking abt this again cuz i was thinking maybe the thing that lets adventure time work so well the way it does is cuz it doesnt#take itself too seriously that it gives the audience enough room to fuck with subtext and then fuck with them back yknow. i think it was#mentioned somewhere that they werent even planning to run with the postapocalyptic elements that are hinted in the show but changed their#mind after the one off with the frozen businessmen and dominoed into marcy and simons backstory. on the other side there are stories that#explain too much to let the story speak for itself and i think it ends up having to do more with the crew trying to lead ppl in a certain#direction than expand on what they have and i see a lot of this with miraculous. like when interviews and tweets are used as word of god in#arguments and it becomes a little stifling to play around with it knowing the creator can just interject. u can say its the crews effort to#engage with its audience but it feels more like micromanaging. and none of this is to say there ISNT room for stories that spell things out#theyre just suited for different things. if sesame street tried abstract approaches to themes and nuance itd be counterproductive#a lot of things fly over my head so i need help picking things apart to get it- but it doesnt have to be from the story itself. ive picked#picked up or built on my own interpretations listening to other ppl share their thoughts which creates conversation around the same thing#sometimes stories will spell things out for you without being so obvious abt it that it feels like its woven into the text. my fav example#for this might be ATLA using younger characters as its main cast but instead of feeling like its dumbed down for kids to understand why war#is bad its framed from a childs point of view so younger audiences can pick up on it by relating to the characters. maybe an 8 year old#wont get how geopolitics works but at least they get 'hey the world is a little more complicated than everyone vs. fire nation'. same for#steven universe bc its like theyre trying to describe and put feelings into words that kids might not have so they have smth to start with#especially with the metaphors around relationships bc even if it looks unfamiliar as a kid now maybe the hope is for it to be smth you can#look back to. thats why it feels like these shows grew up with me.. instead of saving difficult topics for 'when im ready for it'#as if its preparing me for high school it gave me smth to turn in my hands and revisit again and again as i grow. stories that never#treated u as dumb all along. just someone who could learn and come back to it as many times as u need to. i loved SU for the longest time#but i felt guilty for enjoying it hearing the way ppl bash it. bc i was a kid and thought other ppl understood it better than me and made#feel bad for leaning into the message of paying forward kindness and not questioning why steven didnt punish the diamonds or hold them#accountable. but im rewatching it now and going oh. i still love this show and what it was trying to teach me#yapping#diary
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crimeronan · 12 days ago
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i should be allowed to kill people for the amount of time i spend on the internet patiently explaining why you're not allowed to kill people.
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crabussy · 1 year ago
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IS ANYONE ELSE FEELING KIND TODAY!!! IS ANYONE ELSE FEELING GENEROUS TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE!!! IS ANYBODY ELSE BEING KIND AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EVEN WHEN ITS HARD!!! IS ANYONE ELSE ASSUMING THE BEST OF OTHERS INTENTIONS AND RESPONDING IN KIND!!!! CAN ANYONE HEAR ME
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t4tpumpkinduo · 7 months ago
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tbh i do think the way you interact w fanbase can be and often is political. i do think you should unpack why you think certain things. i do think you should confront why you either ignore or objectify or treat poc like abusers. i do think you should look into why you can't bother to care about women characters. like i do think that matters lmao lol lmao. it's not raining on anyone's parade to rightfully point that out.
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niaerinisms · 12 days ago
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Being on Tumblr when Blades 2 was releasing was hell. All the posts were either ‘I hate Shadow!Nia she’s such a fucking bitch’ and ‘Shadow!Nia is so much better because she’s such a fucking bitch (and makes my MC look better)’ and no one genuinely interested in what it meant for her character
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wardensantoineandevka · 13 days ago
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you're really annoying but in, like, a refreshing way?
I'm sincerely flattered, anon. I worked very hard to become really annoying. 💞✌️
#To be a little serious but I have worked hard on being annoying on the internet! It makes enjoying my blog a lot easier.#Secret is — to paraphrase what an editor of mine said to me — to have a bit of a provocateur sensibility‚ a confidence in your perspective‚#the restraint to not cater or bend to people who are seeking your validation‚ the poise to not get actually upset about online arguments‚#the focus to not be negative for sole sake of haterism and avoid stewing in bitterness‚ the judgment to know when it's better to shitpost‚#and a slight touch of narcissism enough to believe your opinion is SO important and you're SO right and need to be THE person to say this.#I am in fact very annoying and I'm a touch vain and proud of it. I genuinely worked very hard to become annoying. Taking up space is hard.#A lot of people over the years think that I genuinely get very upset or angry when people don't like me and I simply don't.#I have cultivated a very specific vibe online and in many irl contexts in which I am a very implacable and annoying dumbass woman.#And I'm very proud of it. It's nice to have a reputation for being someone who sticks by her dumbass perspective.#Even if it tends to attract a lot of adversarial energy from people who want my validation real bad or have something to prove.#At any rate. I recommend to everyone letting go of your fear that people find you annoying and say whatever opinions you have about stuff.#I assume this is re: fandom things and to that I say: like genuinely it's just fandom. The stakes are so low.#Don't seek validation from other people. Let yourself annoy other people.#Legit it's a be yourself and have fun thing.
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whateveryeah · 1 year ago
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Daemon was so in love with Nettles that when he learned about Rhaenyra’s discomfort he sent her off and went to prove devotion to his wife
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Anyway, Always this.
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eglantinesandtea · 2 months ago
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Swan Lake AU
The place where Jayce & Viktor visited whenever they wanted to get away from their worries and have a space for just themselves is also the same place where Jayce is turned into a swan—the “swan lake”.
To them, this lake is very important and it harbors a lot of emotions built from years of spending quiet moments together at this lake. So to have it carrying the horrible emotions that happened when Viktor turned Jayce into a swan was very hard for both Viktor & Jayce to reconcile with.
What was once a comforting place to Viktor now only becomes another source of his stress because of the guilt he carries by what went down between them that day.
For Jayce, it’s become his prison. A place where he cannot fully leave and he feels trapped. He wants to leave, he wants for Viktor to turn him back. He can’t live like this. But Viktor’s still busy and Jayce can’t leave due to hunters, so he’s stuck until further notice.
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bumblingbabooshka · 4 months ago
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No bc why the hell was Tuvok SO ride or die for this random lady who was gonna lobotomize B'Elanna he SUCKS I love him so much Tuvok focus UP!!!! What are you DOING!!!!! What's your ISSUE!!! HEHEHE Nimira: Prisons are so barbaric. As a perfectly civilized alternative, we've banned negative thoughts as enforced by the lobotomy machine. Tuvok: Honestly? I love what you're doing here. [B'Elanna's kicking and screaming in the background as Janeway tries frantically to get his attention] I think this is a very positive start to something beautiful.
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cisthoughtcrime · 3 months ago
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#ok but fr marking undergrad essays is such a rollercoaster#i gave two very high marks today and was genuinely impressed and then the next three i marked were practically incoherent#one just copy and pasted their intro instead of writing a conclusion. like it's verbatim the same paragraph#i dont mark down for minor grammar and syntax errors because there's a high rate of ESL students...#... but some of the papers from native english speakers have me more concerned about functional illiteracy than I've ever been#these are 19-20yos in a humanities field at a top university! even the highest scoring essay had basic basic grammar errors and vocab misuse#at least i could tell what the student was trying to say there but some of the others...#if your punctuation and spelling and syntax are all so bad that i literally cant tell what you're trying to say there is a serious problem#even setting aside how many errors like these there were there's the flip side of the issue: actually writing an essay#the last one i marked yesterday had no structure or thesis or secondary sources#everything between the intro and conclusion was the same claim phrased in different ways with some irrelevant non sequitur quotes thrown in#no analysis other than the words 'analysis of this shows' which is *gasp* not a substitute for analysis#OH AND OMG#one made a direct claim about a figure's political stance and attached a footnote. i went to see what the student's source was.#the footnote literally said something like 'i know i should have a source here but it's only context and i don't want to waste my word count#like what???? do you think claims about relevant context don't need evidence??? and the audacity to not give a citation...#... and claim it's because it would take too many words away from your main argument??#just providing the actual citation for the claim would have been 3-5 words max but the footnote about not having room was 30 words#kid do you think i can't tell that you dont have that citation? do you think anyone's buying that you didn't include it to save space?#it's the very first footnote and most of the others are full-length bibliography entries jammed into the footnotes (which we don't require)#so either you were 'worried about space' at the first footnote then changed your mind as you wasted 250 words on unnecessary formatting#or you were over the word limit and were like 'gotta cut something!' and the only footnote you 'simplified for space' was a short basic one#^assuming i believed you. which i dont. because why would you think that would fool anyone.#i still have half the essays left. im tired and so disappointed in how little we're told we should expect from them
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