#you too daeron

[qyburnsghost]

lol at everyone thinking that is a shot of Nettles and not Addam because she has a much bigger part, with a bigger back story and one of the most unique storylines in asoiaf, as well as one of the most highly anticipated characters, yet some how isn't there or isn't coming til season 3.

[unicoo]

Can we finally talk about how even if the Dance never happened, Jace ascending the throne would’ve still started a war? Or are we just going to keep acting like the Blackfyre Rebellions don’t tell us all we need to know?

Just wondering….

Oh and if you do want to talk about it, lemme hear you lol 👀

[wanderer-clarisse]

been thinking about Beren and Lúthien ballet adaptation again...

[thesummerestsolstice]

There were quite a few people who absolutely refused to believe Elrond and Elros were who they claimed to be when they first came to Gil-Galad's camp. This led to the rise of several extremely questionable theories on who they really were, from the more mundane– they're just two half-elves the Feanorians found somewhere– to the more... esoteric, like that Maglor had "sung them into existence" to fool the armies of Valinor into letting them steal the Silmarils.

The most popular theory was that Elrond and Elros were actually the children of Maglor and Daeron of Doriath, and that they'd been kept secret for... some reason– look I never said the conspiracy theories made sense. E&E look a lot like Luthien (Luthien and Daeron are siblings with pretty similar features) and a bit like Fingolfin (who looks like Feanor who looks like Maglor), so it's not totally implausible. It would also explain how E&E had Maia powers without being Elwing's kids. And that was just enough information for it to become a completely unkillable rumor. Most of it dies down after E&E show some clearly human traits, like getting sick, but there are still die-hard believers out there. Some genealogies from the early Third Age list Elrond as Daeron and Maglor's child.

Elrond, who's been confronted about his "real parents" several times, is very over it. Gil-Galad thinks it's extremely funny.

[sukibenders]

Aegon, Aemond, Helaena, and Daeron looking at Alicent after she washes her hands of a war, that she (and Otto) dragged them into, and the throne, that she (and Otto) forced them to grasp/fight over even though they obviously didn't want it, and goes off to live her best life while they are all still stuck in a cycle forced on to them without their input (obviously this is about the s2 final):

[winterpeta1s]

"Kindness is a quality i found lacking in his brothers"

Geez, I wonder why

oh, wait-

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@targaryensource

@blackemptysea

@terendelev

[alicentwhore]

I do actually like the idea of Rhaena taming a wild dragon. I think it would be interesting for her character and let them use her more during the dance, I just wish it didn’t come at the cost of Nettles.

Anyways I will once again propose my idea of having her claim The Cannibal instead.

Keeps Sheepstealer free for Nettles

Would present a fun parallel to Aemond. It’s the 2 targs who felt the most disconnected from their lineage and overlooked who claim the biggest and scariest dragons.

I WANT to see The Cannibal okay?

It would be funny, with how much everyone has turned Vhagar (and Aemond) into such a boogeyman AND THEN HERE COMES RHAENA WITH THE CANNIBAL

[bbygirl-aemond]

otto: alright aegon you're the new king aegon: my crotch is itchy aemond in the background: ewwwwwww otto: okay? are you telling me as my grandson or as my king? aegon: um... as- otto: because my king would never tell me that aegon: oh otto: also, my grandson should probably not say anything like that to me. tell her. tell your mom. aegon, to alicent: my crotch is itchy alicent, immediately: come here, let me see

[dreamedfyre-a]

sometimes i think about how helaena would invariably be 🧐 at any bride aemond might have. like she doesn't need to have feelings for him or to be romantically involved with him at all (if they are it's on sight i'm afraid), helaena will scrutinize the poor girls and it won't be easy to pass the vibe check

[thevelaryons]

“And an elephant,” Lord Alyn answered insolently. “Pray, do not forget the elephant, my lord.”

~

“The harbor teems with galleys, cogs, and carracks of every sort and size, yet even so I soon found myself consorting with smugglers and pirates. We have ten thousand men in the company, as I am sure Lord Connington remembers from his years of service with us. Five hundred knights, each with three horses. Five hundred squires, with one mount apiece. And elephants, we must not forget the elephants. A pirate ship will not suffice. We would need a pirate fleet...”

[sunnysideaeggs]

what do you imagine the relationship like between Daeron and Alicent, and the rest of his siblings? like how would you cast it/present it if you could, and what would be his intro to the show? xx

In my Daeron feels getting ready for S2 <3333

Daeron is a kind of mysterious type of guy for me, the undeniable hero of Team Green and surrounded by mystery in his life and death.

By all means he’s a good kid, his mom’s favorite and the golden child. Being the youngest he probably was closer to Alicent than most of his siblings, and was the one they protected the most. I can see him getting a strict Hightower education (faith of the seven, scholarly inclined, politics and diplomacy) and excelling at it. Otto secretly wishing he was the firstborn lol.

I can see him looking up to his big brothers. He trains hard to be like Aemond, and cut his hair short like Aegon. Maybe as a kid he was following around Aegon and laughing at his jokes, and wanted so bad for Aemond to teach him to fight <3333

He gives me young Jaime and Sansa vibes, liking the stories about knights and fairytales. Him listening to Hel and her prophecies <333 or them both making life at court. Him and Hel were the most beloved of the Targtowers, so maybe Alicent took them both to do charity or to pray together. PR king.

Ideally, I would have introduced him by the time Jacaerys was born. Instead of the Joffrey birth scene, we can have a Jace birth scene along with a Daeron one. It would’ve brought more Rhaenyra/Alicent parallels and given Alicent a much needed birth scene, which the writers didn’t gave her. It makes the timeline smoother, the time jumps smaller and gives more time to develop the factions and rift between A/R. Also it brings a Jace/Daeron parallel too, as they’re the only heros of the dance. They were supposed to have shared the cradle. It also makes noise about Vizzy having a child and a grandchild the same age. But alas, hotd writers can’t write.

In S2, I would introduce Daeron by Otto sending ravens to their allies around Westeros. They’re our ‘eyes’ in all this. We can get some sneak peeks of how the ideological side of the conflict affects lords around Westeros and even peasants. For example, would a lord be more willing to support Aegon because he has a married older sister whose children could lay claim to his castle? Or a heiress lady who fears her bastard older brother? We can give actual reasons for the greens having support instead of “SHE HAS A PWUSSY, SHE CANT RULE” narrative the writers were pushing on S1.

And then, we have Oldtown. The great high tower, the citadel, the city vibrant and lively. We get closer, and in the training yard there’s our boy. A happy teen, he’s training with a few knights and the master of arms mentions how just recently he started training with real steel (this is important, shows his youth and how he’s not yet ready for war). From above, Gwayne (I’m going to assume he’s at Oldtown, since there was no mention of him at court lol) and Ormund are talking about the future, how Daeron is doing good, how will they start ‘movements’, etc. Ormund is called by his maester (the raven by Otto) and Gwayne gets a lil uncle-nephew bonding moment where Dae shows all his charisma and endears the audience because he’s the best boy.

While they talk (idk about what, how he misses him mom and sibs?) they head somewhere to see the blue queen, Tessarion, in all her magnificence. She’s happily purring while some maesters take care of her (grand maester conspiracy!) and make some annotations about godknowswhat. Tess and Dae bonds and Gwayne stays behind saying ‘he doesn’t trust dragons’.

(Just as an annotation, if Gwayne was indeed at KL and they just forgot to invite him to the coronation in E9, Ormund watches Dae alone, the talk can be done between Ormund and Dae, and the maester with the letter can be an ending to the scene with Tessarion. I am a flexible queen.)

The rest of the episode continues, yadda yadda. Btw, this is the first episode, Vhagar-ate aftermath. War is now imminent and this episode centers in the game of thrones aspects of all of this. We can also add Nyra grieving, Daemon being slimy and Aemond getting the chancla. Aegon’s party is a must too. We can even get Alicent being worried about her son at Oldtown, wishing he was with her and she could protect him (</3). If you want to get REALLY bookish, get me an old and wrinkled Vaegon at the citadel, frowning and staying tf out of it. As an easter egg.

At the end of the episode, we go to Oldtown again and Ormund sent for Daeron in his office. He asks him about family, politics, etc (makes him smart and gives redundancy to why the greens are fighting for). Ormund then asks about Tessarion, and how she’s growing well, etc. How she could fight in battles, if the need arose. Dae understands the danger and shows his loyalty to his family. Then we get the news of Vizzy, Aegon, Luke, etc. Daeron finishes with ‘What happens next?’, having a frame of his face. The shot ends. We get a view of Oldtown at night, getting closer to the high tower. We watch the beacon light up green. The credits roll up.

[bilbotargaryen]

I CANNOT

[ladysternchen]

I don't exactly know how it happened, but one of my side-projects (a fic I really wrote only to myself because I need not throw EVERY way to torture my blorbo at you. That's this stupid thing I have with being mortally afraid of annoying people)... no, let's start this sentence anew, shall we? So, I don't know how, but somehow one of my side-projects spiralled a little out of control and is now set to become a fully-fletched AU 😳. Um, I don't do those? Well, apparently, now I do.

(I'm gonna sketch the story out here, so if you know you wanna read that once it's written and really truly detest SPOILERs, don't read on)

In this AU, the Sindar do not win the first battle, and Eglador falls before it ever has the chance to become Doriath. The Falas stand, but just, so when the Noldor arrive in Beleriand, they find what they longed for- plenty of orcs, and lands free to govern. (Morgoth is actually quite amused by that statement just now) • Lúthien swears revenge (so probably Morgoth shouldn't be laughing after all?) • she (and Galathil and Celeborn who decided that they'd rather be dogging their cousin's footsteps than staying put in Círdan's 'keeping') end up in Nargothrond. (Galadriel and Celeborn- saved). Lúthien finds that she loves bossing cousins around. • After Barahir saved Finrod in the Bragollach, Finrod does not give him the ring, but rather Barahir pleads with Finrod to take his son to safety. Finrod complies. (Beren and Lúthien- saved) • Lúthien still has a thing to settle with Morgoth. She doesn't care if she lives or dies, she just wants to humiliate Morgoth as much as possible. That's something personal. So she sets out to steal the Silmaril. Beren and Finrod follow. •the War of Wrath comes early, perhaps. There is no third kinslaying. Elrond and Elros are just left in Círdan's keeping (like half of Beleriand... sorry Círdan, for being made babysitter rather than shipwright). Maglor and Maedhros are still driven mad by the oath. Maedhros still commits suicide. Maglor still throws the Silmaril away. The Peredhil-twins witness this. Friendship grows of that. •roughly everyone who lives by the canonical end of the FA lives. Roughly everyone who's dead by the canonical end of the FA is dead. I do a lot of character redemption. Later ages should work unhindered by AU. Still not sure what to do about Túrin.

Feel all free to ask or else add ideas if you like :D

[lemonhemlock]

the latest theory going around about daeron on twitter is what if the show genderswaps him into a daughter. I wouldn't be upset about this except for the fact that a lot of stuff we know would make even less sense if this were true. I wouldn't be truly happy knowing full well the writers will never address certain things like oh i don't know...why isn't fem daeron married? And if she is...why wasn't aemond chosen as her husband? Or why didn't rhaenyra propose a match between her and jace since they're closer in age?

Making daeron a girl would bring up more questions than answers IMO

I will say fem daeron makes for a good scenario in au fics at least..

But anyway I don't think it's gonna happen at all and people are just dying for casting news lol.

i agree, i think fem!daeron can be interesting in fic, but, as it stands, it would cause more plotholes than it would solve if they genderswapped him in the show

the reason why i'm not super invested in pre-production & filming news is that we're always going to get incomplete information and it just seems silly to me to dedicate energy and mental space to theories like this when most of the time no one even knows for sure what they're talking about

like, i acknowledge it could be fun sometimes so no judgment, but some fans actually seem to panic and worry over stuff like this when it's really not that serious. we could just very well not know who plays daeron yet because not everything leaks or maybe they haven't even filmed oldtown scenes yet

[bohemian-nights]

I don't think George Martin will allow the writers to cut Nettles out; she's one of his favorite characters, I recall that in twitter he says that Daeron wasn't included for some reasons in season 1 but that doesn't mean he's erased.

The same is for Nettles, look, she's cool, she's not valyrian and managed to claim a dragon! And MANAGED TO SURVIVE THE DANCE OF DRAGONS AND WAS WORSHIPPED AS A GODDES OF FIRE FOR YEARS!

She's cool as hell and also there's an actress in instagram that post with the sheep icon, come on guys, she won't be erased.

Also dudes Daemyrah is not a love story, like the show tries to portrait;in the books it is not because they are Targaryens, a bunch of incest freaks, blood-supremacist that harm each other, not progressive, nor feminist(they allowed the women of their family to be equal when it was convenient to them (*cough* Jaehaerys the bastard to his daughter Alyssa, the only female dragonrider🙃 I wonder why???)

You know the funny thing: Nettles, Alys and Sara have survived, the lovers have survived, because they knew that getting involved with Targaryens was not worth it anymore.

Cool girls, Cool girls, I love them.

I don’t know how much control he has, but yeah they are both pretty integral to the plot(and Nettles is one of his faves). You can’t really tell the dance without her. She’s been in every rendition so why cut her now🙃To appease a bunch of shippers who allegedly think this show is hot a**?

And yes Anna’s Instagram posts have been very suspicious(yet go figure, the HOTD blogs aren’t even speculating on her🙃).

Trying to replace Nettles with anyone just won’t work. She’s a non-Valyrian bastard Black girl who claims a dragon, fights in a war that killed those with purer blood and stronger than her, has a Targaryen prince fall in love with her, and is saved by him. She lives and goes on to become a fire witch 🙌🏽🔥 Her story is irreplaceable.

[hell-heron]

I actually I am very sympathetic to the Hot D people wishing to combine some young female characters to obtain a bit more of a substantial arc for those remaining bc F&B is so full of characters who are only there to fill a family tree position and do a single dramatic thing over the course of the entire war which makes for an acceptable book or movie but a terrible TV show, and I also see how they thought this was the only way (though not how the fuck they thought it would be a fun little twist to tease fans with). So I've given a lot of thought to how I would have done it and I think the best ways would be:

- use the characterisation they had come up with for Helaena for Rhaena instead. The Yearning For A Dragon can stay, hell it really works for her to have that anger that the dragons will put this burden on her but not choose her as rider. Her visions would have to be more openly undecipherable for it to makes sense she's not listened to by Team Black, but tbh that's what should have been done with Helaena too. Maybe she's suspected of making it up for attention since a childhood vision didn't pan out bc she misinterpreted it

- keep Ulf and Nettles as the dragonseeds. Maybe the Baelon story can be the lie Ulf tells and the Saera one the truth. I dont think any other part of Hugh's characterisation is of special value to keep in 2024.

- combine Helaena with Daeron instead. Aka: keep the book characterisation of sweet, conciliatory people's princess up to Bitterbridge if we keep Maelor just up to a certain point if we don't then it's War Crimes Time. Maybe the thing she's pressured to do is have a child instead of riding Dreamfyre to battle, either by Aemond or Aemond is the one who helps her fulfil her dragonriding destiny in a pet the dog moment etc