#you said it was brushed off bc carlos was a guy and i can agree to some extent
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Ugh I’m re watching season 2 episode 12 atm and I forgot how painful it was seeing TK relieved and happy to see Carlos because he was so worried about his dad but instead Carlos walks in with this sterile and stressed expression and asks to talk to TK alone and then Carlos has this worried but police-like expression when telling him Owen has been arrested in a very monotone but gentle way and still tries to be calm but honest when TK is getting more and more wound up which must’ve been so hard for Carlos and then it all goes to shit when TK gets angry and aggressive :/ I’m still annoyed they didn’t properly address TK pushing Carlos like that, like I get TK’s default setting when he’s feeling extremely emotional, stressed, angry, numb etc is to lash out because of his own issues and trauma but I feel like it was brushed off because Carlos is a guy/male. And I know a lot of fans at the time were concerned, worried and frustrated about it too. I hope it’s not something we see again from TK towards Carlos and just generally aswell (of course episode 8 might have other ideas with the flashbacks though :/).
i get that a lot of people had visceral reactions to that scene and i understand why, and people can and should let themselves feel how they feel about it. i personally don't see as big of an issue with it as i know a lot of people did, and that's not because i think it was perfectly fine for tk to shove at him but. when you can understand the motivations and you know that it's not causing real physical harm, i think it's easier to move on from? i've read some really great explorations on the fan side of things that satisfied me in a way i knew not to expect from canon so. it is just a tv show to me at the end of the day, as much as i love their relationship.
we never did get to see them actually talk about it, but my main reasoning for not hanging onto this is that a) there was clearly some conversation off screen we didn't see bc tk tried to apologize again in the kitchen and carlos said "we agreed" (and you kinda just have to take that as the viewer lol... like you can hold a grudge against them for not showing it but it's not what i'm personally here to do or bothered by) and b) it's not been a repeated thing for them before that or since. we're not that far into 3, so that could change (i doubt it will ever get physical with them again on screen in that way) but since it's not shown to be a pattern with their relationship... i have a hard time categorizing that as any kind of abuse or anything extreme. that might be an unpopular opinion, but it... really has not bothered me as much as others and i'm glad i wasn't around when that episode aired live, lol.
#easks#you said it was brushed off bc carlos was a guy and i can agree to some extent#i think its a recurring thing in tv... like women can shove at men and its taken less seriously just bc... we can see that it's not#going to leave real physical damage#im kinda conflicted on this.. i understand ppls reactions.. ill never tell them they shouldnt feel it#but i dont necessarily think it was that extreme#and maybe thats bc ive seen way worse and still been able to enjoy shows with worse but idk#at the end of the day........ i try not to moralize every action on the show and ik thats hard with like physical 'violence' ..#its a slippery slope and he was shoving him but.. he also wasnt putting him in real physical danger and we can see tks mindset#and the aftermath of that.. and they arent trying to say that its correct or an okay thing to do imo so idk#this is tough....... can it be called a misstep? sure......#did i find myself that bothered by it as i watched? not really#to me.......... its tv#jfklsjkfl and it rlly is that simple sometimes when im watching stuff now like flkjsd im not gonna glorify it#nor will i grovel or hang onto it
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