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Whats Rosegarden to you collab idea
what would make for a wholesome and loving rosegarden collab event would be for everyone to include how they draw rosegarden all in one pic. save images as png
So if you see oscar as tall bean who carries ruby off draw that
if you see ruby and oscar as strawberry and lemon go at it
if you see ruby and oscar as vampire and werewolf do it big!
We're just all coming together to draw what rosegarden is to us whether it be au's or whatnot, just one big rosegarden collab amoung fellow rosegarden shippers. Just gotta keep it pg
Maybe schedule the event around fall because that's the season of the harvest soooo September 23 ish.
#i'm just tossing my hat into the fire and see where it lands#i peronally headcanon that oscars birthday is september 23 and that he's a fall baby but thats just me#season of the harvest is fitting#ruby's birthday is 31st so their birthdays would be a clip apart#anyway if folks interested we could do this if not ehh#rwby rose#rwby rosegarden#rosegarden#rwby ruby rose#rwby ruby#ruby rose#rwby oscar pine#oscar x ruby#ruby x oscar#rwby oscar#rosegarden collab idea#plus with that date folks would have plenty of time to work you know#you could also maybe do rosegarden family together too#probably be the most chatic picture ever an army of oscars and rubs and potentially kiddos#Rwby#rwby ships#Rooster teeth rwby
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hi! noticed the ask by the anon about the reactions to rosegarden and i can't help but wonder...
do you think any of them would have some reservations because of the oz in oscar's head thing? i reckon there may be some slight lingering intensity for each member regarding him so there's a chance they could be wary... but more so for ruby and oscar, rather than exclusively ruby
I answered the last ask on the assumption that them becoming canon wouldn't happen until after the war is won and the Oz curse is broken. Simply because I don't think either of them have the time or capacity to tackle that sort of relationship before the main plot is resolved. So in the hypothetical situation that they would get together and it's before the curse is broken, I think there's a chance some of the people around them might be a bit wary. At least Qrow, Tai, and maybe Yang. However, with it being so close to the final fight, it would probably be the least of anyone's concerns at that time. "Seeing as the world might end in three weeks, so long as those two are happy for whatever time we have left, I don't really care if Oz is around for it or not", if you know what I mean?
That being said, I think I am too biased to answer this in a yes-and kind of way. I know you're probably asking in good faith, but in full transparency, I'm pretty jaded by how often this particular topic gets brought up. Since this is not the first time and probably won't be the last, I'm going to take this as an opportunity to share my stance on this idea as a whole.
Ozpin's place within Oscar and RG's stories is one of conflict; which is what all stories revolve around. And it is not, nor has it ever been, a deal breaker for RG's relationship to me. The Ozcarnation curse is an allegory for a few things. The first is simply growing up. RWBY is a coming of age story, and Oscar isn't the only one going through that arc. But this conflict and grief of how he doesn't get to choose the kind of person he wants to be - largely because of the people he's met and things he's experienced - is not unique to him. The curse is just a fantasized and exaggerated version of it.
The next one isn't so much an allegory as it is plainly stated in the text, but it's a story about choice. It's about how even when we are irreversibly changed by things outside our control, we can still choose who we want to be. Even when it's hard, even when the influences are strong, even when it's downright traumatic. Oscar's story is about self discovery and self acceptance; about choice and change. Regardless of if Oz fades into the background, or his curse is broken, or they become a blendy merge of the two of them, Oscar is still going to remain his own person in some way by the end of it. Because this is ultimately a happy story and that is the main driving conflict of his personal arc.
The assumption that Oscar is going to get absorbed or overwritten by Ozpin being such a common take in this fandom never ceases to confuse me because of that. It also confuses me because the show - while it doesn't fully explain the extent of the merge mechanics - has told us that Oz has had families in his previous lives by "learning to live with the souls with which he had been paired".
The other allegory I'll mention - of which I am not the first, nor necessarily the best, to be pointing out (here is a great example from a little while ago) - is one for plurality. Some of the friends I've made in RG spaces have DID and have spoken to me about how they interpret the Ozcar situation; how it's similar or different to their own experiences. Hearing those stories, once again, makes it really hard for me to see Ozpin as any sort of deal-breaking barrier to a rosegarden relationship. This idea that Oscar must be isolated from his friends and constantly scrutinized when showing interest towards any romantic partners because of Oz's presence lacks both imagination and compassion for me. Oscar never asked for this curse, he didn't do anything to deserve it, and to condemn him to a lonely life because of something like that seems really antithetical to the themes of this story and to the characters involved. While some characters within the story might have some doubts about the relationship, at the end of the day it is not up to them on what Ruby and Oscar decide to do for themselves.
Again, this isn't aimed at you, Anon. I just wanted to say my piece on it given how pervasive this topic is. I truly look forward to the day where folks can talk about RG without this being the first thought or argument that everyone jumps to.
#sorry#but if i had a dollar for every time someone brought up the 'but there's an old man in his head' argument#i could probably fund v10's production by now#ask#asks#anon#discourse#kind of#rwby rosegarden#oscar pine#idk man. it's a story about breaking cycles and hope and fighting for a better world#it's right there in the lost fable and in 'you're your own person'#it's just such a strawman argument to me now and i'm tired#live a little. use your imagination. stop worrying about oz in oscar's head and worry abt killing the an/ti rhetoric in your own
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My ship thoughts
This will be a long post, so I’m putting it under a ‘keep reading”
Bumbleby - Until Vol.4 I wasn’t sure if the Bees liked each other. Like yeah, we’ve had solid evidence since, like, their Vol.1 trailers. But still. I wasn’t sure CRWBY would do it. But wow was I impressed. - Probably my favorite well-known ship - Their EYES are the colors of each others SOULS what more do you want??? - I wish my gf would throw a motorcycle at my abusive ex...
Nuts and Dolts - I tried pushing this ship out of my mind for so long. I did. I wasn’t ready for it - I appreciated the things people made for the ship. I knew it had potential - But wow. Vol.8 really said “Nuts and Dolts rights” and I respect that - They’re so cute together. It’s like if Pyrrha came back to life and could be with Jaune again. - But healthier this way (see Arkos)
Renora - Wholesome - Cute - ‘Boop’ is one of my favorite songs - We all saw it coming. But how we got there was the fun part - That Vol. 4 finale though...
Arkos - First off, Arkos is my favorite ship from Vol.1-3 - Himbo is taught how to drink his respect women juice by an Amazon? Sign me up - The character development, the mutual respect, the CARE - ForeverFall still fucks me up. I cry when I listen to it - I love Pyrrha, she’s my girl, but... She really betrayed Jaune’s trust at the very end. He told her specifically he never wanted to be helpless and watch his friends fight for their lives again. And she did exactly that to him. Making him wonder if he could have made a difference had he been able to fight by her side with her in the end. - But it’s not really even Pyrrha’s fault. Ozpin’s expectations and Cinder’s plan are more to blame - Still high tier - It’s just so tragic
WhiteKnight - Cute in theory - But it’d have to be done so carefully to be a good romantic pairing - As friends? I LOVE IT. Make these two best friends right now! - But Jaune moved past his feelings for Weiss in Vol.2 when he finally realized she meant it when she told him she didn’t like him - I’m shocked though that so few people pick up on Ep.3 Vol.1 when Weiss is making fun of Jaune and mockingly calls him a “cute boy”. I think Jaune just thought Weiss liked him already, and went from there. He hits on Pyrrha pretty quick in Ep.4 too - I think it could work with who they are now, but I think they’re better as friends
WhiteRose - The sole reason I didn’t ship Nuts and Dolts sooner - Vol. 6 messed me up okay? That red scarf really threw me for a loop - Chasing each other in the Argus Limited? - Weiss sassing Ruby non-stop Vol.1-3? - It also completes the RW BY JP NR pairings. I like to joke that the Emerald forest is actually “true love” forest. And whoever you lock eyes with first you fall in love with them. But that only works sometimes - Also that part where they call out each others names when Jinn shows them Ozpin’s past
Ladybug - Cute and interesting - I’m not against it. I would just need more of it to ship it myself - They just have such solid connections with other characters - I do love Blake’s introduction to the main cast though, and how much Blake looks up to Ruby
Freezerburn - Similar to LadyBug - Cute, but I just ship them more with other people - That hug in Vol.5 was a bit sus though - Yang does seem to open up the most with Weiss - And Weiss defended Yang so quickly after the Mercury fight - It’s not unfounded, I’ll say that - Analyzing it has opened my eyes
Crosshares - Yes - Just - Yes - High femme fashion ICON Coco Adel - With fan-fave Velvet Scarlatina - WLW powercouple - I wish I was Coco and Velvet is cute, not much to understand here, keep scrolling
RoseGarden - I have my concerns - Oscar is a wonderful kid - He probably has a crush on Ruby - And he is a wholesome boy who deserves all the happiness - But he also has a manipulative immortal Wizard in his head - So - You know
Lancaster - I never saw Lancaster. Jaune is the first boy Ruby meets. And Jaune calls her cute and quirky once, but... - I love Ruby’s talk with Jaune about failure in Vol. 1, then his return to that speech in Vol. 4 in return. - I think they lean on each other as leaders - But I don’t see it going further - Cute though. I’ve seen nice fanart
BlackSun - I read an analysis a long time ago that really sat with me - Blake asked for space (not out loud, but in action) when she ran away - Yang gave her what she wanted. She didn’t like it. But she gave Blake what she asked for. - Sun on the other hand, didn’t. He followed and helped her anyway. (Believe me, Blake could have used all the help she could get in Vol. 4-5) But in doing so, he kinda took himself out of the running as love interest. - He’s and excellent Foil for Blake though, so I love him
SeaMonkies - Two bros, chilling in a hot tub... - Is it gay to become junior detectives with your best friend and only hang out with him for like 3 seasons? - These two are just - So fucking stupid - Apart, they are fine. Very competent. - Together though - They are just so dumb I think its cute as hell
JNR - Wholesome - I could see it in Argus. In front of Pyrrha’s statue - They love each other - Maybe its not 100% romantic - But they love each other - I could be happy here
JNR+Neo - CRIME + Ren - The pure chaos of Nora and Neo - The exhausted mom-friend energy from Ren and Jaune - The power polycule that could take on Salem alone and maybe win? - I think it’d be cute, but I personally ship them in the two pairs a bit more.
Bees Schnees - We add Blake and Yang’s angst, Yang and Weiss’ trust, and Weiss and Blake’s mutual understanding and growth - Wow okay - I have to give it to you, I kinda like it
Neo x Jaune x Ruby - Based on my response to Lancaster, you might be able to guess my answer here - I think a lot of the ship’s points lie in “What’s better than one short girl dating the tallest guy in the cast? Two short girls dating the tallest guy in the cast!” - Cute though, I think it’d be chaotic and wholesome - But poor Jaune would be exhausted trying to make sure the house doesn;t burn down every five minutes
May x Winter - Look - If I hadn’t made a Neo x Jaune side blog - I would have made a May x Winter side blog - The comparisons - The family legacies - The pure amount of how attracted I am to both characters - What happens when two tops date each other? - What if they were partners in Atlas? - What if May was Winter’s first crush. And after May came out, Winter was like “Oh thank the gods, I was worried I liked all women and only one guy for some reason. Cool, crisis adverted. So anyway, Marigold, here’s how you do your makeup” - I could go on - Haha don’t tempt me - I’m serious - Please let them sass each other at some point
GuardDogs - Marrow = Just doing his best - Jaune = Just doing his best - Marrow and Jaune = two himbos just vibing in this world - If we don’t get Silentknight, I’d be proud to get GuardDogs - Marrow sure has been worried about “Juan” this whole time, huh?
Emercury - The sass - The pure sass - Mercury’s unearned confidence paired with Emerald’s quick temper - Wow, I hope Em can turn him away from murdering people. - If Em gets 1 friend, I hope its Mercury and not Cinder - At least Mercury cares about her (But he’s too cool to admit that outright) - Mercury is going to see Em on RWBY’s team and just immediately walk over and join up. No questions asked. “I guess we’re good now. Sorry Tyrian, its been cool, not really”
Happy Huntresses - Yes - Look at that HUG - Ladies, is it gay to go off into the tundra and form a rebellion against the fascist government with three of your hottest gal pals?
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I love rose garden 😍
I think oscar hasn't dated much at best maybe a girl or to in school or a girl is age is ant set him up with ,so he maybe knows how to date,
I don't think ruby dose,I don't think her date let her date,am after becane fail ,I don't think dating on her mind but I think at some point after,salem gone
Ruby and Oscar will start dating as the show ends I could maybe see them having an on screen kiss in the last volume
Do you think ,rose garden will kiss or date
Sorry if u been ask this be for
You and I share the same sentiments about this wholesome ship between these two budding smaller, more honest souls, anon-chan. Personally I agree with you on thinking that Oscar has probably never dated or been in a romantic relationship before. My assumption is that Oscar has lived a pretty sheltered life with his only source of human contact and companionship being his family back on the Pine Family farm.
Since Oscar stated that he never met huntsmen and huntresses before back in V5, my assumption was that he and his aunt probably lived in the middle of nowhere in Anima where the closest neighbours were probably towns away. Either that or many of their local neighbours moved to the kingdom for the protection of the huntsmen. That being said, my hunch was that Oscar didn’t interact much with kids, especially ones around his age growing up which would explain his social awkwardness when meting RNJR for the first time. At least he’s courteous to adults highlighting a good boi (best boi) who was raised right by his family.
I also liked the thought of Ruby being the first girl Oscar ever truly had a genuine crush leading to those feelings ultimately evolving into love. Looking at Oscar, I more saw him as being one of those types who didn’t really bother much about romance; so much so that I imagined Oscar would be so inexperienced to love that he wouldn’t even realize his own feelings until someone else had to help him make the realization for himself.
I saw Oscar as the type who only allows love to blossom if it’s with someone he trusts wholeheartedly since to him, trust is everything and he’s not one to open his heart to any and every one. But once he does and he’s found the one who has tamed his heart, he will be ever devoted to said person; loving and supporting them unconditionally with every bit of his being.
I pictured Ruby being the same as Oscar. For me, I think outside of admiring them in her favourite childhood fairy-tales and supporting the relationships between her friends in real life, Ruby is quite the little red novice to romance herself. I perceived her as not really being all that interested in romance too since the feeling has never really hit her before. Unlike other characters she might know, the little light of love has never sparked in Ruby before so much like Oscar, she strikes me as being another who probably wouldn’t realize she was in love with someone even if Cupid damn right thwacked her over the head.
That being said, this is what makes the potential of a Rosegarden romance so fascinating to me and why I like it so much. At the end of the day, Ruby and Oscar are just two kids fitted with roles of responsibility beyond their years. They are both often looked to as figures of guidance and wisdom or at least are expected to. All the more reason why I love how the show has highlighted the two showing support for one another since, within our main group of young heroes, they share the most in common (at least in my humble opinion) and can understand each other in ways unique to them; thus making their bond more meaningful than any others they might share.
At this point, I can’t really say whether or not romance is in the cards for the rosebuds. Don’t get me wrong. As I’ve voiced multiple times in the past, this squiggly Rosegardening Pinehead is all for Ruby and Oscar falling in love with each other (particularly if it parallels the Fairy-tale romance that happened between Ozma and Salem a long time ago only with a much happier ending and happily ever after). I’m down for a Rosegarden romance but whether that will be is up to the showrunners. I’m not sure if Ruby and Oscar will “date” but I do like the idea of them sharing an onscreen kiss.
As a matter of fact, once upon a time, long before it was revealed that Oscar will be kidnapped by Salem, I was one of the theorists who kept advocating for it. Therefore I had concocted this scene in my head where Salem gives Atlas an ultimatum to surrender Oscar over to her in exchange for sparing the kingdom from annihilation. And while his comrades were strongly against this, Oscar, on the other hand, had made up his mind that he was willing to trade his own life if it meant the protection of everyone.
I had this scene of Ruby and Oscar professing their true feelings for one another after Ruby desperately tried to convince Oscar not to give himself up to Salem. I had this idea of the Rosegarden first kiss mimicking the first on-screen kiss between Katara and Aang from Avatar: The Last Airbender.
In that series, Aang kissed Katara after expressing his concerns of never returning from confronting Fire Lord Ozai. And as Katara goes in to object, Aang kisses her on the spot as his way of letting Katara know his true feelings for her just in case he never got the chance.
For me, I pictured something like this being done for Oscar with Ruby. With him kissing her as a means of letting her know right then and there how much he loved her; just in case he didn’t return to her in the event that Salem killed him.
I even had this idea of “I love you” being the very last thing Oscar says tearfully to Ruby before he is taken prisoner by Salem and she and the others are left to die in the destruction of Atlas Kingdom. Even if we never get a Rosegarden onscreen kiss, I personally would still like the show to confirm Oscar having feelings for Ruby.
The longstanding Pinehead headcanon is that Oscar has a crush on Ruby and has been in love with her since the moment he looked into his silver eyes; paralleling the young man who met the lone Silver Eyed Warrior in the Warrior in the Woods tale from Fairy Tales of Remnant.
That being said, I’m waiting (ever so patiently) to see if the show would…y’know…do something more to make the notion of Oscar being in love with Ruby more official since I feel like they’ve been more or less teasing that since V5. It’s obvious that Oscar cares a lot for Ruby. It’s clear that he admires her and looks to her as a symbol of hope. However at the same time, it is also clear that Oscar acknowledges Ruby’s vulnerability (the side that she rarely likes to show but is evident to certain characters like Oscar and even Maria Calavera and of course, us as the audience) and the huge burden of responsibility placed on her shoulders and does his best to support her when he can in his own way.
But does this mean that Oscar is in love with Ruby? I’d like to think he is but I’m waiting on the canon to confirm since I feel like they’ve building up to it since the very moment Oscar met Ruby. I don’t know whether or not romance is in the cards for the rosebuds but what I can say for sure is that something important has been building between these two kids since V5 and I’d like to think thatV8 is the time to actually prove this or not since Oscar is expected to be taken by Salem at some point.
Not to mention that he’s also supposed to be dead a la Ironwood and I’m still waiting to see if that will be mentioned at any point by Ironwood when RWBN_P go to confront him up in Amity.
But we’ll have to wait to see what happens anon-chan. But whether or not, Rosegarden is carded to be together or not, let me say this, fam. I’ve voiced this point possibly several times in the past but given the nature of this fandom and how certain-certain shippers are behaving these days, this squiggle meister is going to make this firm statement.
Just like you anon-chan, I love Rosegarden too (if it isn’t obvious already XD). As a RWBY ship, they are my OTP and I adore this ship very much for the potential it has. Despite my own personal gripes with the writing of the show, if there is one thing I will give to the CRWBY Writers is that thus far, I’ve enjoyed the progress they have made with the growing bond between Ruby and Oscar. It is thanks to them and the things they have done with these two why I like them so much and humbly look forward to whatever else they have in store for their growing bond.
That being said, while I might love Rosegarden and why I may even wish for the series to pursue a romance with them---at the end of the day, that is NOT my ONLY motive for supporting this pair. It’s not even my main motive.
I don’t love Rosegarden solely because I want the showrunners to make them endgame and should the showrunners not do so, I will hate them forever. That’s NOT it. That’s not how I am as a person. I have always, ALWAYS said that whatever the showrunners do with this pair---whether it becomes a romance or stays purely platonic, I will respect it.
And even now, as we’re entering a new season, I stand by that. Regardless of what the showrunners choose to do with Rosegarden, as a supporter of the pair, I will respect it and it will NOT deter me from giving the pair as much love and support as I’ve always done.
Basically---in a nutshell, if Rosegarden becomes canon, this squiggle meister will support it. But if Rosegarden doesn’t become canon, guess what? This squiggle meister will still love and support it. How about that, huh?
I feel the need to express this now because there honestly seems to be this weird vibe in the FNDM in respect to Rosegarden and its community. It always annoyed me how certain-certain shippers and their respective community would go around the place acting as if their favoured ship was better than others even going so far as to bully other shipping communities because of it. In my opinion, there is no need for that. Just like what you like. Enjoy it however you wish and be respectful enough to allow others to do the same. That’s how I’ve always looked at it and that’s how I move.
And that’s one thing that made me appreciate the RG community. For the most part, all of us share that same sentiment. We love our ship but we respect other ships and their respective shippers. Probably because some RG shippers are multi-shippers. While I’m not a multi-shipper--- since I more tend to latch onto one favoured ship and stick with it till the end---this is one thing that I liked and respected a lot about the RG community.
…Which is why it honestly disgusts me when I see the things that certain-certain shippers say about us.
What’s even worse is that even when we attempt to defend ourselves, somehow that proves to make things worse than better because then other certain-certain shippers start implying that we’re fighting a war with certain-certain ships when in reality, we’re not fighting anything. We’re just shielding ourselves against the nonsense the other people are sparking.
We didn’t start the fire yet…we’re being held responsible for it by association and even when we try to out the fire, somehow we still get chastised both by the folks who hate us and the ones we hoped would understand. It is honestly a mess and if you’re unware of it then stay oblivious, fam.
For the longest while I have heard stories about the toxicity within the RWBY shipping communities. But back in those earlier times, the toxicity was mainly contained to a few certain-certain ships and their shippers. Now it may seem that the toxicity is starting to spread into the RG community. Not in the form of us becoming toxic ourselves in our own behaviour towards other ships but more in the sense of certain-certain shippers kicking up dirt and trying to start fights with the RG community by making arguments against us whether it be here on Tumblr or Twitter or the dreaded cesspool that is the RWBY Reddit community.
And…sadly to say, I’m seeing some of my fellow Rosegardeners taking the bait and…that honestly needs to stop.
That type of attitude is one of the reasons why I’ve started to slowly back out of the RWBY community. That doesn’t mean that I’m jumping ship. I’m still following the RWBY train---just picture it more as me following it alone from the comfort and sanctity of my own little squiggle mobile gently chugger-chugging down the tracks. This way I can enjoy the show the way how I want to only engaging when I feel like it and more importantly, staying very, very, VERY FAR away from all the chaos that I’ve seen stirring up for seasons.
I still like the show and I’m still very much invested in seeing where it goes, particular with Rosegarden but I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t becoming increasingly difficult for me to just enjoy the things that I genuinely like about RWBY.
Rosegarden and the development of these two smaller, more honest souls (individually and as a pair) are two of the things I still really like about RWBY. However I’m honestly tired of going on the tags and seeing my fellow RG shippers sharing and responding to the discourse surrounding the ship sparked by certain-certain shippers.
I’m tired of seeing all the weak strawman arguments made by said certain-certain shippers against RG and why they believe their ship is superior and more likely to become canon and whatever. Like seriously? WHO CARES!
I’m tired of it all and I genuinely wish my fellow RG shippers would stop answering these types of people. When will you learn that you are fighting a losing battle? It doesn’t matter how many posts you make. How much good evidence you provide from the show or the showrunners. Even if you are in the right, it all doesn’t matter. These types of people don’t care. All that matters for them is stirring up nonsense and throwing hissy fits when they don’t get their way. It is childish behaviour at display and nothing anyone says will stop it. So why even bother to entertain it at all?
This is not me trying to knock down my fellow Rosegardeners in the RG community or even me throwing shade at others to “start shit”---I’m just…tired! Tired of seeing that shit, y’know what I mean?
Shipping is supposed to be fun. Happy fun times where you get to gush and nerd out about your favourite pairings, not really because them becoming canon was all that important but just because you like it. What happened to just liking something and having a perfect platform to like it and enjoy it with others who feel the same way about it with you…IN PEACE? No malice. No disrespect. No fighting over which ship is going to be canon endgame (as if the canon means jack-shit in the long-run because look at Zutara, Sheith and Klance for Pete’s sake). I dunno. Overall, I’m just tired of the RWBY shipping community as a whole and it’s becoming tough just to have fun being a Rosegarden shipper anymore. So I think stepping back is a good way to go.
Sorry if this response went off course anon-chan. It’s just that your question motivated me to express things that’s been on my chest for some time. I hope you don’t mind and hopefully I was able to give you a decent answer in all of this. Feel free to let me know or not.
~LittleMissSquiggles (2020)
#squiggles answers: rwby#oscar pine#ruby rose#oscar and ruby#rwby rosegarden#rwby theories#rwby volume 8 theories#Anon-ninja#squiggles answers
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Winter Solstice
This is a little late for Christmas, but, to be fair I had no internet access for most of the time. This is just a sneak peek at the Rosegarden fic I’ve been working on but since this one was going on for a long time, I’ve decided to put the entire fic under the cut. (let me know if you’re having trouble trying to read it)
Victorian, Semi-steampunk (Mid 1800s era) AU
Every step in the cold stone floor felt like an eternity.
Despite the holiday season where everyone was in their solstice cheer, the red-haired girl shivered violently against the cold. Snowflakes flitted and fluttered in the air, slowly turning the world around her into a blanket of pure white.
“This really was a terrible idea,” Ruby mumbled, flinching each time her bare feet touched the cobblestones. “I knew leaving Crescent Rose was a bad idea-achoo!”
Oh great, she thought as she sniffled. How am I supposed to get to Beacon now?
She sneezed again, angrily this time as she contemplated at her failure. It started out with a simple thief snatching her pocket. Realising what was taken from her, she pursued the thief without a second thought. When she finally cornered the thief, she then realised her mistake as she was without her weapon. Before she knew it, the thief had two other companions and knocked her unconscious. When she found herself awake, her well-loved boots, coat, cloak and silver emblem were missing.
Just thought of her miscalculation only brought out another violent sneeze from her.
Asking for help would have been a good idea, had it not been for the fact that every shop in sight was closed. Ruby then looked up at the sky, standing still as she watched the flutters of snow drifted in the wind. The soft caress of the winter breeze brought her to tremble even further.
With her constantly trembling, her body slowly wore her down as her muscles began to strain. She decided at the very least, that she could find a place where the wind wouldn’t be able to reach her. And so, as a last-ditch effort, Ruby ran towards the closest alleyway, only to slip and fall on her face on the cold hard floor. Had it not been for her aura, she would have had met her fate right then and there.
“Are you alright?!” a voice hollered out from a distance.
The sound of footsteps hastily trudging through the snow drew closer towards her.
Ruby groaned at her predicament while trying to stay positive at her position. She then pushed herself up, only to feel a pair of gloved fingers holding her shoulders to assist her. By the time she sat up, she looked up and saw a face she had seen once or twice in the academy. A young boy with ebony black hair who was always seen next to Professor Ozpin. The boy had bundled himself in an over-sized coat and had a long, orange scarf wrapped around his neck several times. The winter breeze billowed once again, bringing her body to tremble even further before she could even speak.
Wordlessly, he bent his knee before her, took off his coat and draped it over her shoulders. He then began unwrapping the woollen scarf around his neck and then wrapped it around her neck twice.
“What happened?” his voice cracked in clear concern.
“A-a thief-f,” she stuttered.
The warmth that exuded from his coat slowly eased her shivering muscles, easing her breath into a much steadier pace. When he finished wrapping the scarf around her neck, her body twitched here and there at the shock of the sudden warmth. With her still-trembling nerves, she grabbed the two ends of the coat and pulled it closer to her body.
“W-weren’t-t y-you Profes-ssor Ozpin’s… a-pprentice?” she asked as she continued to shudder.
“Yes I am,” he nodded, his hazel eyes reflected a clear concern on her current state. “You’re a student from Beacon, right? I’m going to have to drop a line at the nearest postal station to let them know what happened.” -the boy then paused as he appeared to be assessing the situation- “Are you able to stand?”
“Yes, but my boots were stolen…”
The boy pressed his lips together as he bent his head down low. He then looked towards the direction of her bare feet and then looked at his.
“Alright,” he nodded to himself as he unfolded his left knee to have his boots flat on the ground. Ruby didn’t realise what he was doing until he began unlacing his boots.
“W-wait, you don’t have to go that far-��
“I’ve walked frozen floors like this when I was a kid,” he interjected as he slipped his boot off his left foot. Passing it to Ruby he then added, “Between walking on a sheet of ice and cobblestones, I’d rather choose the latter.”
“…And you’re okay with that?” Ruby felt bad already, having to hear that he had already been through something worse than her own predicament. Regardless of her own show of concern, the boy’s stern face never faltered at the question.
“The postal office is just 2 blocks away,” he pointed his head towards the road behind him. “I can handle a few short miles from here.”
The girl looked at his eyes and saw how serious he was at his offer. She then turned to the boot that remained in his hand. Hesitantly, she took it from him, in which her action of accepting it earned her a smile on the boy’s face.
“Thank…you…” she said quietly.
“It’s the Winter Solstice,” he said as he adjusted himself to unlace his other boot. “It’s the season to share with what you have with friends and family. It’ll be bad luck if you’d spend it on a cold afternoon like this.”
He then raised his head up to her after he unlaced finished unlacing his boot. Ruby was still looking at the boot in her hands as she contemplated on their current predicament.
“…Sorry if the boot stinks,” the boy quietly said with a blush. “It’s not much, but, that’s the best thing I have for now.”
“Oh no,” she shook her head and began slipping her foot into the boot. “It’s just that I have a better idea.”
The boy was half-way into removing his other shoe when she made her proposal.
“Maybe if I just wear this,” she pointed at the boot that she was now wearing. “And you can wear that.” -she pointed at the boy’s boot that was still being worn- “That way we can at least have one-less foot to worry about.”
The boy gave her an incredulous look.
“I mean, it’s better than having both feet in the cold, right?” she added.
The boy then made a long sigh, lowering his head for a moment.
“Alright,” he turned towards her. “But if I find you limping, I’m not going to take any chances.”
“That’s a deal then,” she smiled, tugging the large coat closer towards her.
The boy’s cheeks then glowed into a light blush of pink and batted his eye away. He then laced his boot loosely this time, in case he’ll need to remove it if the cold was too much for her.
He then stood up and stretched out her hand to her to help her stand. Ruby’s cold fingers then took his hand as she stood, wobbling a little as she did so.
“Are you alright?” the boy asked.
“I’m fine,” she answered, as she shivered once more.
The boy then took a couple of steps ahead, only to be halted by a sneeze as the winter breeze blew past their direction. From where Ruby stood, she saw his back arching as he wrapped his arms around himself as though he was bracing himself against the cold.
She looked at the coat that had been draping over her back and saw that the coat seemed to be big enough for people of their size to share.
Now that I think about it, she thought, looking at the boot on her foot. This size is also too big for him.
“Hey,” she called out to the boy.
The boy turned towards her.
“May I make a suggestion?” she gestured for him to come closer, to which the boy complied.
“What is it?”
“This coat’s too big for me alone,” she raised the flap of the coat. “And it wouldn’t be fair if one of us would be freezing in the cold. So…” -Ruby then opened the coat to show how big the coat was- “Would you mind if we shared the coat?”
The boy’s jaw dropped in disbelief. Whether it was the thought of her proposing to share something that he had advertently given her to help her; or the thought of being too close to a girl in general; the boy couldn’t help but sigh defeatedly.
When the winter wind billowed strongly this time, the boy then reluctantly walked closer to her. Unable to refuse because of the cold, the boy then stood beside her; taking one side of the overbearing coat over his shoulder.
Seeing that the distance between them created a wide space for the wind to billow through them, Ruby then shuffled closer to the boy and instructed;
“Sorry, but could you move a little closer? The cold’s going to get us if we’re not going get closer.”
“Ah, sorry,” he squeaked.
He then shuffled closer, and after a few adjustments here and there, they both found themselves in a supposedly comfortable position. With Ruby’s arm around his shoulder due to their height distance and the boy awkwardly had his arm around the back of her waist. For a moment, they stood in an uncomfortable silence, but when the wind billowed, it brought the two of them closer as they tried to preserve the warmth that they had.
When the wind died down, two of them couldn’t help but laugh at their predicament.
“Shall we go?” Ruby asked.
“Mm,” he nodded.
The two of them then walked a few paces ahead, wary of each other’s footing as they both had one foot in the icy cobblestones. Seeing as both Ruby and the boy had seethed with every step of ice, Ruby then decided to try distracting themselves from the cold.
“So,” she began. “I’m Ruby.”
“Hm?”
“My name. I’m Ruby Rose.”
“Oh,” the boy nodded. “I guess I already knew that.”
“Oh?” Ruby tilted her head a little. “Then you already know who I am?”
“Ah, sorry,” the boy shook his head. “I mean, Ozpin- I mean, Headmaster Ozpin mentioned you and your squad once or twice. So, I already knew who you are.”
Ruby slowly nodded, not knowing what to think with the sudden idea of the headmaster talking about her and her team.
“Not bad things I hope,” she said.
“Oh no, the headmaster spoke highly of your team, even you once or twice.”
The boy then raised his head as though he had an epiphany.
“What is it?” Ruby then tugged her side of the coat a little closer.
“Sorry,” he lowered his head. “I forgot to introduce myself. I’m Oscar. Oscar Pine… I guess you’re already aware that I’m Headmaster Ozpin’s successo- I mean, apprentice.”
“Oh, so your Ozpin’s successor?” Ruby never failed to miss that last part of what he said.
“…Ugh,” he groaned.
“What is it?”
“…Sorry. It’s just that part was supposed to be a secret…”
“Oh?”
Oscar chuckled guiltily as he spoke; “Yeah… the cover story was supposed to be that I was to be trained under him for a family friend… But I guess now that the cat’s out of the bag…”
“Don’t worry, I’ll keep a secret!”
The ebony-haired boy blinked.
“I won’t tell anyone, promise,” Ruby assured him. “Although, isn’t an apprentice the same thing as a successor?”
“Not really. There’s a big difference between them,” Oscar explained. “Apprentices just learn from their master’s skills to be more familiar with their line of work. Successors take over their master’s legacy.”
“Okay?”
“Yeah,” he nodded. “That’s that.”
The red-haired girl nodded slowly, her mind trying to digest the sudden information that was given to her.
“But yes,” he added. “Don’t tell anyone about this. If people found out that I’m going to be-”
“I won’t tell anyone,” she insisted. “I won’t and I can promise you that.”
He smiled upon hearing her assuring words.
“Thank you.”
So there you have it... The final product might have some alterations to the scene, but yeah. here we are. It’s a late Christmas Present to all my Rosegardeners.
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Pinehead Headcanons: Oscar Goes Missing...Again
This headcanon was sparked by @jealouscartoonist’s illustration for Day 2 of Rosegarden Week. In their image they depicted the concept of what if…Oscar is sent to Atlas Academy on his own while teams RWBY and JNR are off doing their own thing---meaning missions on behalf of Ironwood and the military and what not. I guess you can consider this somewhat my response to that or at least my way of expanding on the thought. As soon as I saw it, it made me wonder a very curious scenario.
Imagine if…Ironwood attempts to separate Oscar from the others through the use of the Academy?
Technically he is the man with the authority to commit such an act undetected considering that he is both in charge of the huntsmen academy and the Atlesian Military while also having two seats on the ruling council of the kingdom.
Here’s what I’m thinking. I know jealouscartoonist may not like this idea but I can see Oscar attending Atlas separately from RWBY and JNR a possibility. Technically…wouldn’t Oscar be the equivalent of a first year huntsman student given his current lack of training while the others are pretty much second or third years by now. I know JNR_RWBY haven’t trained under an academy since Beacon but I’d like to think they’d all have advanced to another year of school by this timeline in the story since the plot has progressed over a period of several months to nearly a year since Vale.
I guess what I’m trying to imply is that if Ironwood wanted to keep Oscar under his firm watch while also tethering his bond with his fellow huntsman comrades, this is one way I can see him doing so within the law, I guess. By having Oscar attend the academy as a beginner student with a different school curriculum than his friends who would be his upperclassman.
In the RWBY V7 Trailer, we glimpsed the RWBY girls dive-bombing from an Atlesian airship down to what I’d assume is a school training mission---Atlas-style, much similar to their first training mission in the Emerald Forest and Forever Fall back in V1.
So perhaps Ironwood would keep RWBY and JNR busy with training missions while Oscar will be off doing his own thing since he wouldn’t be able to join his friends on their missions. It’d be the equivalent of how things were between RWBY and CFVY since they were their second year colleagues.
And if I’m going off of using CFVY’s experience as an example, I guess off-campus training missions to help real life victims is part of the second year of training at the huntsman academies. So what we saw for JNR and RWBY during the V7 trailer, with what appeared to be them going on a training mission to a dust mine---that’s probably part of their training as second year students. Maybe. It’s a hunch at best.
Either way, even if JNR_RWBY and Oscar went to Atlas together, I don’t think they’ll be able to see each other on the same beat like how it was during their travels. I wouldn’t be shocked if their respective times at the academy does create distance between the older huntsmen and Oscar. Sure JNR_RWBY will all be together since they’re all around the same year academically. But Oscar, he might just be on his own or rather segregated from his friends and given special treatment from the General.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if we get a moment where JNR_RWBY are on break in a cafeteria scene and all the while Ruby is scouping out the room in the hopes of spotting a familiar freckled face. But unfortunately Oscar isn’t around. He’s never around and this soon becomes an issue.
I wouldn’t be surprised if, due to Oscar’s predicament with Oz being gone, Ironwood would vouch that Oscar stay close to him all the times so that the two can figure out a way to bring the old soul out of his solitude.
Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ironwood convinced Oscar to sadly lie to the others about joining them at Atlas Academy when the reality is that it’s all a ruse to hide the fact that Ironwood has been experimenting on Oscar and his aura.
Or…maybe Oscar doesn’t even get to join the others at the academy. Perhaps unlike Ozpin who was willing to bend the rules to allow a 15-year-old huntress to attend his school ahead of her time, I doubt Ironwood would do the same for Oscar regardless of him being a successor to Oz.
I’m more inclined to believe that James would keep Oscar under his surveillance so that they may figure out a way to bring Oz back or something along those means. One or the other, I suppose.
The overall theory is to have Ironwood keep Oscar separated from JNR_RWBY. I feel like that is a plot point that could come to fruition canonically.
And y’know what? Is it weird that I actually wouldn’t mind something like this happening. Not just because it can potentially lead into my Pinehead headcanon about Ironwood betraying the heroes by using Oscar as a martyr in his scheme to stop Salem but partially cause, I’d like to think a subplot like this could lend to the golden opportunity to show Ruby strongly missing Oscar.
I think it’d be kind of adorable if as Oscar’s time spent with JNR_RWBY becomes scarce due to Ironwood, this kind of sparks Ruby’s inner mother hen and protectiveness of Oscar to go into overdrive.
Picture a moments with JNR_RWBY hanging out together, laughing only for Ruby to frown sadly when she noticed the lone empty seat across from her between Ren and Nora where Oscar should be.
Picture Ruby trying to get in contact with Oscar constantly---perhaps our farm boy will finally get his own Scroll while he’s in Atlas prompting moments of Ruby ringing him up or leaving many messages on the hope the two could talk only for her attempts at communicating going to waste. Oscar never answers her. As a matter of fact, it’s like he wasn’t even there anymore (a nice allegory for the threat of the Merge if you will).
Picture Ruby being teased by the members of FNKI---like Neon Katt for example, who mistake her protectiveness of her friend for an unspoken crush.
Like I’m just imagining Ruby trying to call Oscar for the umpteenth time in about a week of not seeing or hearing from him. Oscar has just ghosted himself from the group and it gets to the point where it starts to really worry Ruby.
She of course, expresses her concern for her missing freckled farm boy to everyone---JNR, WBY as well as FNKI too--- only for Neon to bluntly ask Ruby if Oscar was her boyfriend (or someone she liked that way) since the red rose’s earnest behaviour reminded the cat Faunus of a love-struck girl hung up over not seeing her partner in some time.
This of course riles Ruby up and we get a hilarious bit where a flustered Ruby tries to awkwardly explain that she and Oscar are ‘just friends’. It’d be even more hilarious if the others joined in on questioning Ruby’s true feelings toward Oscar considering she’s only known him shortly yet acts so caring and defensive toward him.
I know there is no real necessity for the series to have Ruby justify on-screen why she cares so much for Oscar. Then again, this squiggle meister of course wouldn’t mind seeing something like that done if possible.
My hunch has always been that Ruby cares for the Oscar the way she does because she relates a lot to him. Unlike anyone else (besides probably Jaune), she knows what it’s like to be in his shoes---to be the youngest in the presence of older more experienced and possibly better huntsmen than her and have to work harder to prove yourself and show that you have a right to be there.
At least in Ruby’s case, she was fortunate to have Yang joining her at Beacon to look out for her and help her open up to others.
But with Oscar, he doesn’t have that luxury. He doesn’t have any immediate family to turn to or watch over him. He doesn’t even have Ozpin anymore.
Oscar is all alone now so Ruby cares because she wanted to at least let him know that he still had someone there for him.
That he didn’t just have to depend on Ozpin or Ironwood or handle things on his own all the time. He also had her on her side, looking out for him and standing by him no matter what.
I like the idea of Ruby voicing why she cares so much for Oscar since I can see it sparking JNR forming their own interest in looking out for Oscar. After all, it’s not just Ruby who has been in Oscar’s shoes. All three of them share this. I can see Ruby’s protectiveness of Oscar resonating with Jaune since it might remind me of how Pyrhha used to look out for him too.
In a way, Ruby is technically Oscar’s version of Pyrhha and this realization could make Jaune see that he’s been where Oscar is as well as an underdog.
The same can be said for Ren and Nora. It was the same for them too. They wouldn’t be where they are currently if they didn’t have each other having their back through thick and thin.
I just think hearing Ruby say why she cares to much for Oscar would be an interesting way to sort of inspire JNR taking an interest in joining Ruby in looking out for the freckled farm boy too since in their own way, they’ve all been where he currently stands and understands the importance of having someone by your side as you go.
Personally I really need the Writers to do better on showing that Oscar is meant to be part of the team on his own bearings outside of Ozpin’s influence while supposedly emphasizing that the others care about him too.
No offense but each attempt they’ve done so far just makes me as the viewer watching feel like all of this is only being done because the Writers write it to be so for the purpose of the plot and not because the plot itself surrounding the relationship between these said group of characters that they’ve built upon thus far supports this development; y’know what I’m saying.
Take V6 C9 for example. I know folksl have heard me rip into this episode many times before and I apologize for doing it again here but…as a Pinehead and someone who’s favourite RWBY character is Oscar, I can’t look past how much the Writers mishandled him for that episode.
The writing decisions for Oscar’s part of that episode’s narrative still bothers me even now that we’re on the brink of V7’s premiere.
I understand that V6 C9 was meant to sort of express that Oscar is officially part of the group and everyone values him in that light and all that jazz, but I’m so sorry guys. That bit felt forced to me (like so many things about that one episode). I didn’t buy into Jaune’s sudden change in attitude towards Oscar or any of his remarks acknowledging him as part of the team since we didn’t really get to see him bond with Oscar in that manner. Hence my eternal disappointment of the CRWBY Writers not killing two birds with one stone by having Jaune and Oscar reunite and reconcile at the Pyrhha statue.
All of my gripes for this episode would immediately disappear if the Pyrhha leaf had led Jaune to finding Oscar standing at the foot of the statue of his former fallen teammate. That to me would’ve been more poetic.
But nah, I guess Jaune meeting the red-haired woman who might as well have been a ghost (since she vanishes immediately out of the story as quickly as she appeared) was a better, more fitting idea given how this subplot started.
Yep, I guess revealing Oscar’s new huntsman gear in a rather contrived way was far more important than showing him and Jaune actually sharing a genuine heart to heart to help properly discuss and shed any previous animosity and misunderstanding left behind by their previous tense scuff. Yep. Good shit.
But that aside, what I’m mostly trying to say is, if we get another subplot for V7 where Oscar suddenly goes missing again prompting JNR_RWBY to go find him, I hope a better job is done to show how much the others care about Oscar.
If not the whole team then at least, show how much Oscar means to the members of his Golden Circle: Team RNJR. I still stand by my theory that Ruby, Jaune, Nora and Ren are destined to be Oscar’s closest confidants, particular Ruby Rose.
I do think a ‘Missing Oscar Part II’ story is possible to happen for V7 only this time, he’d probably been abducted by the Atlesian military and used as lab rat in Ironwood’s desperate attempt at saving the world pitting our heroes against the General and his forces as betrayal is in motion. And when it goes down, I’m hoping these four---RNJR--- are at the forefront of getting Oscar back---
Ruby as Oscar’s potential best friend (and love interest if romance is in the cards) and JNR as Oscar’s potential huntsmen team and surrogate family.
That’s my theory at least. Besides, if Oscar suddenly disappears again then I’m definitely banking on someone (probably Nora) making the meta joke about Oscar going shopping.
‘We need to find Oscar. He’s missing and he could be in danger!’ ‘...You sure he didn’t go shopping again.’
I think that bit is mandatory if we do get that story for V7. But as always, these are just my thoughts, theories and ideas.
~LittleMissSquiggles (2019)
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Pinehead Headcanons: Oscar’s Betrayal
Okay, but…but hear me out with this one again, okay? So I just posted a new Pinehead headcanon and in that post, I shared a theory of:
What if…Salem captured a portion of the Atlesian populace during the Fall of Atlas and used them as leverage to force Oscar to submit to being her prisoner.
Basically the idea was that the fates of these captive people were placed in Oscar’s hands and each time he attempted to escape from Salem, instead of punishing him, she would sacrifice the innocent lives of these poor captive people on his behalf. So as a means of keeping those people alive and not suffering because of his actions, Oscar became Salem’s compliant little prisoner, alone in his lonely tower while the abducted Atlesians were being held elsewhere that not even he knew.
As a follow-up to that theory, it made me consider something. One of the reasons why I love the ‘Oscar the Boy in the Lonely Tower’ Dark Domain theory is due to the call-back to the Wizard of Oz story---the Lost Princess of Oz
In that tale, Princess Ozma was taken hostage and it was her best friend, Dorothy Gale who led a search party to rescue her.
I cannot be the only Rosegardening Pinehead who can totally see Ruby doing this for Oscar should her become Salem’s prisoner. It’s just too perfect especially if these two rosebuds are destined to grow closer for the Atlas Arc.
Another reason for my love for this theory is the obvious parallel to the Lost Fable episode.
Remember in her origin story, the original Ozma was the valiant hero who rescued the maiden Salem from her lonely imprisonment. So as a call-back to both of these stories, I can definitely picture Ruby Rose becoming the Ozma in Oscar’s Lost Fable. The noble caped champion who, together with her teammates, leads the voyage into the Dark Domain to rescue the lost little prince from the wicked witch.
Keeping that in mind, it then made me think of this.
What if… in a shocking twist, Oscar ends up betraying his friends and joining sides with Salem?
Okay, really hear me out here.
What if…when Team RWBY arrive to free Oscar from his imprisonment, to their dismay, Oscar refuses to leave with them. No matter how many times Ruby begs him to come with her, all Oscar does is stare back at her coldly, telling her heartlessly to leave him be. Leave him alone to his tower of isolation---he doesn’t need her saving. To prove his point, Oscar even summons the Grimm left to guard him to immediately surround and ambush the rescue party.
Despite her teammates being overpowered, including Yang who desperately pleads with her younger sister for their retreat, Ruby is adamant on not leaving without Oscar.
But again, Oscar refuses. He even takes it a step further to kind of break Ruby’s heart a little. Once upon a time, I shared this musing post where Oscar confessed his love for Ruby before surrendering himself to Salem and her forces to protect the people of Atlas.
Let's say, Ruby realizes her true feelings for Oscar after watching him helplessly be stripped away from her and everyone else while Atlas Kingdom fell from their failure. Following that, the idea of just seeing Oscar again becomes part of Ruby’s driving force to save him. So to have her finally find him only for him to not only refuse her help and cause her and their friends to be captured but to also deny his love for her---I can see it being kind of shocking and heartbreaking for Ruby.
So basically Oscar betrays Team RWBY and allows them to get captured by Salem. Or…so is what he leads them to believe?
Let’s say, as it turns out, Oscar allowed the girls to be captured on the hunch that they would be thrown in with the missing Atlesians. This turns out to be true.
Perhaps as a reason for Weiss to be invested into going to the Dark Domain, maybe her family were among the kidnapped Atlesians? Maybe Winter and Whitley were abducted and Weiss could have a reunion with them or something of the sort? That could be interesting.
Maybe it’s a captured Winter and/or Whitley who informs Weiss and the others of Salem’s blackmail of Oscar---forcing him to obey her in order to keep the captive civilians alive in exchange for his submission. It is here where Ruby understood what Oscar did. She realized he only let them believe he had betrayed then to a) continue to protect the Atlas people and b) ensure that the RWBY girls found the missing people in hopes that they might possibly be able to help them.
This could be a cool way of highlighting how clever Oscar could be. Like picture Salem believing that she had whipped Oscar into becoming her subservient little puppy only for him to cleverly pull the wool over her eyes, to some degree. That could be cool.
Having Salem believe he had doubled crossed his friends to side with her when in reality he still retained his loyalty to his friends is a nice testament of strength to Oscar.
Salem thought she had broken him but instead, the young boy was still strong. Salem thought she had made Oscar into a coward but his heart was still courageous.
Braver than she thought.
I dunno. I just wanted to toy with the idea of Oscar letting his comrades believe he had joined Salem’s side. I like the idea of Salem forcing the fate of others into Oscar’s hands while simultaneously making him hurt the people he loves. It's a sadistic idea but then again it’s one that ironically plays well with the malicious character Salem is supposed to be.
It additionally ties into her past with Ozma and what eventually drove them apart. Remember Salem cared very little for humanity even after becoming their supposed God for a while.
Ozma was the one who showed compassion out of his duty to the God of Light. As the current incarnation of Ozma and a huntsman, Oscar also shares that similar responsibility and devotion to the lives of the innocent. So imagine how fittingly twisted Salem would have to be by blackmailing the vulnerable Oscar into becoming her prisoner and possible pawn using humanity as leverage.
Imagine Salem holding a handful of people hostage and telling poor Oscar, either you submit to me or they'll all be dead because of you and she uses Oscar’s time in isolation within the lonely tower as means of grooming the young boy into that way of thinking.
As I said, it was means of breaking Oscar and for a moment, Salem thought she had broken him. But she was wrong.
That could be pretty interesting. But y’know, it’s just a small headcanon.
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RWBY Musings #12: Since the title of the next episode is ‘Rest and Resolutions’ can it PLEASE be one where the gang finally go out and explore Mistral?
Like seriously.
I’ve been itching for an episode where the gang finally explore Mistral and we get to see more of the scenery and backgrounds. Hopefully Chapter 7 will be the chapter. I need an episode where it’s just the whole group (Ruby, Jaune, Nora, Ren, Yang, Weiss, even Qrow AND Oscar. He’s not excluded from this at all) up to some good-spirited fun and shenanigans in Mistral.
Maybe it can be a day-off episode where the gang can go to a hot spring or get to explore the town in their own way and can each split up into smaller groups of two and go off on their own little adventures.
If that happens, you already know which pairs I’m foreseeing: Ren with Nora (naturally), Yang with Qrow (perhaps some private time so that she can probe him more about Raven and then some), Jaune with Weiss (surprisingly yet not surprising) and lastly, of course, the crème de la crème, Ruby and Oscar (and Ozpin who amazingly does very little to disturb or interrupt their alone time together beyond the usual wry remark at Oscar’s expense).
I’m hoping that the CRWBY will bless us the with the biggest RoseGarden moment to date this season in Chapter 7. Who knows, might even get to cross off a couple more of my ♥ RoseBuds/RosePine/RoseGarden wants off my list.
As a matter of fact, let’s add a couple more wants to that list, shall we?
All about Oscar:
My adopted gentle avocado farm child needs more screen time, dagnabbit and I solemnly swear to bitch every time he doesn’t. As a matter of fact, I need an episode where it’s just all about Oscar.
If this isn’t Chapter 7, then I’m hoping that we get an episode where the main focus is just on Oscar for the majority of the runtime and how he views the world. I want to know more about the young farmhand’s perspective of everything that’s going on around him, specifically from an emotional standpoint. We got a taste of that in Chapter 5, which you guys know from reading my musings is my favourite episode of this volume, and I’ve been craving more insight into Oscar’s mind. No pun intended since he is the boy with two souls. I just want to know more about Oscar from his point of view, y’know from I mean? I also would like to know more about Oscar’s perception of each character he’s come into contact with in the show thus far.
What does he think of everyone? Does he genuinely like them? Respect them? Admire them? Would very much love to know more about them...that sort of thing. I’m not just referring to his growing connection to Ruby or even Qrow (which has more to do with the Ozpin side of things, to be honest) but additionally Ren, Jaune and Nora.
Now that I think about it, can this be a new segment to join/replace World of Remnant called ‘Oscar’s Thoughts’ where it’s just Oscar telling the audience facts about known characters in the show but it’s all his view of these characters and what he knows about them. Can this be a thing pretty please CRWBY?
Anywhozzits; folks have been hoping to see Oscar interact more with Jaune. While I’m not into Banana-Hamster (Oh what brilliant mind concocted this ship name?) or Shovel-Knight, I would still like to see Oscar and Jaune maybe have a little one on one where it’s just them alone socializing. Sure you can probably chuck in Ozpin showing up to share a few words with young Mr. Arc but the core of the interaction should mostly be between Jaune and Oscar himself.
I may be a mega, ultra RoseGarden shipper but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t mind Oscar sharing a close friendship with another character besides Ruby. Maybe Oscar can be the one to get Jaune to finally open up about his feelings regarding Pyrhha’s death. We still haven’t opened up that can of worms in the series as yet. And I’m still holding out on my theory of Oscar helping Jaune to unlock his semblance through awakening his own semblance. If you’d like to read my theories on that, check out ♦that musing right here.
. If Oscar isn’t the one to ask Jaune about Pyrrha then perhaps it could be Weiss instead unless she decides to accompany Yang somewhere for moral support. Raven did tell Yang to ask Qrow more questions about the true nature of Ozpin and I don’t think they’d bring that up in the story to just let it get lost in the flow of the upcoming episodes. Jaune did have romantic feelings for Weiss at one point after all (not sure if he still does) so maybe he might feel more oddly at ease opening up about Pyrrha to her. Maybe? Discussing the death of the girl who had a crush on you with your old crush. That’s a zinger but it could be possible. Who knows?
More Talks With Ruby and Oscar:
I’m also hoping this is the episode where we get some casual Ruby and Oscar interactions and conversations. I’m not ashamed to admit that the highlights of these RWBY Volume 5 episodes for me have mostly involved Ruby and Oscar just speaking to each other. Now all I need is an episode dedicated to them just talking; not about the impending battle and wars, not about Ozpin and whatever Grimm things to come...just them getting to know more about each other beyond just being huntsmen.
I want Oscar and Ruby to talk to each other about other things like their families. I want Ruby to ask Oscar about how his life was like growing up on his aunt’s farm and even question him about what his aunt was like (because God knows we’ve all been itching to know something more about the lady who singlehandedly raised our fine young avocado farm boy) and in turn, I want Oscar to ask Ruby about her mother (not intentionally though, like maybe he started off asking her if she had more siblings besides Yang which lead to Ruby telling him more about Yang, mentioning Tai and even Zwei which then prompted Oscar to question about her missing mother from her family tree).
Let these two have an actual human conversation for once, beyond thoughts of an impending war and battling the forces of evil hanging over their heads, beyond unforeseen prophecies and destinies about them that has yet to be revealed.
Let there be a bittersweet moment for these two to remind themselves and each other that at the end of the day, they’re human. Kids to be exact. The other characters are all legally adults. Ruby and Oscar are both the only ones still considered to be children. So let the kids just be kids for once in this episode. Normal, non-huntsmen kids don’t talk about wars and killing Grimm. They go out and laugh and just have fun with their friends. The title of the episode is called ‘REST and Resolutions’ for Pete’s Sake.
If there isn’t at least one scene where Ruby and Oscar just sit and relax and just enjoy each other’s company over a gorgeous Mistral view of the setting sun with Monty Oum memorial birds flying off into the distance, I will be pissed at this opportunity, not really for any kind of shipping (the other characters can join them too) but just a really tender moment.
Lindsey Jones, voice of Ruby, did mention at a con that Ruby and Oscar will hold hands at one point when the topic of RoseGarden came up. I mean she could’ve just been pulling our legs without hinting anything from the show, of course.
But picture this guys: Ruby and Oscar have a moment where they’re just talking about stuff and just being honest with each other about everything. Since the word ‘RESOLUTIONS’ is also in the title of Chapter 7, let Ruby and Oscar discuss their own resolutions going forward, admitting to each other what it is that they’re truly fighting for. And in the midst of it all, let Ruby reaches out and takes Oscar’s hand in hers. This surprises him at first and might even earn the red-head a blush from the young boy as the sudden contact caught him off guard but he eventually melts into the moment and the two share a look----this deep, longing, lingering look.
A look that everything is going to be ok and that no matter what happens, neither child would have to do it alone. Because they’re going to do it together and have each other’s backs.
Heck, if they don’t want to make it all too shippy, make it a Toy Story 3 moment where everybody hold hands. Ren takes Nora’s hands, Nora grabs Jaune, Jaune grabs Weiss, Weiss takes Yang, Yang and Ruby both grab Qrow who stands awkwardly between his two nieces.
Ruby, still, then reaches out her hand to Oscar. Oscar is, of course, hesitant at first not honestly feeling himself an affiliated member of the team. But after seeing the warm look of assurance on Ruby’s face as well as the welcoming glances from everyone including Weiss and Yang who he recently just met, Oscar smiles and accepts Ruby’s hand. The two can still share a look together but this time it would be shared with the whole gang over the view of the setting sun.
This is a perfect way to parallel what Ozpin told Oscar in Volume 4. ‘Greatness in knowing that when the world needed help, you were the one to reach out your hand...’
These are a group of people who are about to risk their lives to protect the world and people of Remnant and are fully prepared to do it time and time again, as long as it takes. Having Oscar accept Ruby’s hand would be a perfect way to nonverbally signify not only his full integration into the team but also his acceptance of his new fate to fight alongside these people til Salem and her forces are stopped.
Hazel Re-encounter:
Nothing really to do with ships but something I figured would happen at some point in the show. I want Oscar to suddenly bump into Hazel again while in Mistral. I found it interesting that the show made Hazel the one to meet up with Oscar before he got to Mistral.
Would be interesting if Oscar ran into Hazel again while exploring the town with Ruby. Like maybe it’s a thing where Oscar loses Ruby in a crowd and the two get separated for a few minutes. In this brief interim, Oscar finds himself face to face with Hazel again. Surprise, surprise.
Of course the juggernaut of a man recognizes the small boy and the two exchange words---maybe, in an odd twist; Hazel takes pity on Oscar’s unfortunate predicament and sponsors him a beverage which he forcibly tells him to drink to help calm his nerves.
Oscar then awkwardly thanks him for both the drink and for helping him get his ticket to Mistral (cause he never did and this can be a good way to bring that little plot point back). But the casualty of the moment is ruined when Ruby finds Oscar and Hazel immediately recognizes her.
He, of course, doesn’t do anything and just sits there staring rather cryptically in Ruby’s direction however that doesn’t stop Oscar from suddenly sensing a strange change in the man’s demeanour and in an effort to get out of there, he hastily grabs Ruby’s hand as he practically hauls her away from Hazel muttering a quick thanks to the man as the two teens left him without a second’s glance.
Not sure if Salem would make Hazel go after Ruby while he’s in Mistral. The beef with the silver-eyed girl has more to do with Cinder and Tyrion than him and Hazel strikes me as the kind of guy who wouldn’t get his hands dirty unless the situation concerns him. However, the Volume 5 intro did tease Hazel combating Ren and Nora so...maybe he does receive orders to capture Ruby at some point *shruggity shrug*
Is it weird that I kind of want Hazel to have a weird connection to Oscar? Like, I don’t want it to be a crack twist where the CRWBY writers basically Darth Vader Oscar and make Hazel his long lost father or relative or something (like the uncle who was once married to his aunt he never met or whatever). But rather, perchance Oscar reminds Hazel of someone he once knew...someone he once loved and lost at the same time. Like a son? Or maybe it’ll just be a thing where Hazel sees a lot of himself in Oscar and can’t help but imprint on the young boy. They do share some similar character traits (like skin tone and hair colour). But we’ll see. We haven’t seen Hazel since Episode 2 so Chapter 7 would be a nice time to bring him back into the story and him bumping into Oscar again would be one way to introduce the notion that he too is in Mistral.
Overall, those are my wants regarding Chapter 7. As you can probably tell, I’m really excited for this episode. While I heard from sources that it’s going to be a short episode (the shortest of the season so far at only 12 minutes and 19 seconds. Oh bother), I’m still feeling pumped for it. I really feel like this is going to be an amazing episode or...at least one that I would really, really, REALLY enjoy. I’m feeling that hype.
If anyone happens to see the episode before me tomorrow, do you mind letting me know if any of my wants from this musing showed up in the episode, please? You don’t have to tell me which want it is. No spoilers! Just DM me saying only ‘YAS’ and I’ll get the picture. I want there to be an air of mystery while still riding on that big ole hype train.
As always, thank you guys for reading my musings for those of you who take the time to. Really appreciate it. Until the next one, I’ll see you fellow RWBY fans for Chapter 7.
~LittleMissSquiggles (2017)
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RWBY Musings #15: After seeing the title for Chapter 8 of RWBY Volume 5, I’m seriously hoping that part of the episode focuses on Ruby and Oscar.
I told myself I wasn’t going to share another musing for this week til the next episode premieres. After my last musing, I said I was done for the week but damn, the title of that Chapter 8 brought me back. I gotta talk about it.
Speaking of which, before I get into my usual spur of words, I’d just like to humbly thank all the awesometastic people who liked, commented on and shared my ♦last RWBY Musing. Thank you guys so much! It truly means a lot that you take the time to read my jibberjab for real so thank you bunches.
I especially want to give a shoutout to @miraculouscorazone who shared my post with AfterBuzzTV via Twitter. It was quite a pleasant surprise (and by that I mean holy-shizznuggets was that a shocker) to learn that my musing was briefly mentioned and even discussed a little bit in this week’s episode of their RWBY AfterBuzz show. If you tuned into the podcast and remember the part with the hosts mentioning a shared tumblr post with a theory about Oscar’s outburst from Chapter 5 being intentional. Surprise, that was my post they were talking about!
So that’s one of the highlights of my week. Thank you precious star kids and fellow RWBY lovers so much!
Okay, on with the musing now.
Guys, the title of Chapter 8 is ‘Alone Together’. Where do we even begin with this?
Whenever I see a title like this one, it can only mean one thing: A story with two characters who don’t normally spend that much time together suddenly thrust into a dire situation where they only person they have to depend on is each other.
It’s the perfect set-up scenario to force two characters who don’t normally socialize to socialize. It can also be the ideal way for a story’s protagonist to learn more about a centric secondary character whose story is still a mystery to them and the audience after the two suddenly end up...well alone together.
And if RWBY is doing this kind of story, I’m really hoping it’s an Oscar and Ruby focused episode or at least, an episode where we finally learn more about Oscar as instigated by Ruby. I can’t see what other two characters this title can allude to.
Unless it’s involves Blake ending up alone with Sun or maybe Illia as she is separated from her family, then this episode has to be Ruby and Oscar. It just gotta be this time.
I’m worried I may be gearing myself up from some bitter disappointment in that department. I know not everything in RWBY is about shipping but this is one of those moments where I’d like the CRWBY writers to make an exception.
Purely for the fact that they began the season strongly hinting at something between Ruby and Oscar.
You can't give us four episodes of them socializing and then stop. The well has to start flowing water again at some point and I’m eager that this episode will provide an opportunity that they will take. Plus there really needs to be an episode where one of the focus in on Oscar and getting to know more about him.
It would be interesting if we get the reverse of Chapter 5 and have Ruby ask Oscar some deep questions that enlighten us more into his character. If Ruby and Oscar are alone together where it's just them I can definitely see the potential of this happening. We only got 7 more episodes left.
I’m starved for the precious farm boy to get some well-deserved development. I’m starved for my ship to get some development. Don’t start something you don’t intend to continue, CRWBY, especially within the same volume.
I’m hoping this episode presents a case where Weiss and Yang probe Ruby for details on Oscar, probably out of curiosity for the young farm boy but mostly as a means of teasing her about possibly having a crush on him.
They do this only to discover that despite being together for several weeks, Ruby still honestly doesn’t know that much about Oscar.
According to Ruby, other than training together under Ozpin’s watch and what happened in Chapter 5, she and Oscar haven’t exactly gotten any alone time to truly get to know each other.
This will then give a mischievous Yang an idea and long story short, she hatches a plan which results in Ruby and Oscar ending up alone together.
Whether it’s somehow managing to get everybody out of the house for the day so that it’s only Ruby and Oscar alone in the house by themselves or gives them the ole parent-trap and tricks them into meeting each other in the same spot in Mistral and Ruby and Oscar enjoy a day of exploring the town together.
Do you know what would be funny and cute at the same time? What if...Ruby and Oscar bonded over videogames, of all things? Books would be a worthy second choice but videogames is the definite first.
I remember way back in Volume 3 after Qrow was first introduced, we got a scene where he was playing a fighting game against Yang using their scrolls as controllers. It’s been a while since we’ve seen something like that in the show.
Since Oscar was given a grand-spanking new backpack (as evidenced in Chapter 5. Don’t think I didn’t notice the new duds for our little stud muffin in the baking), I wouldn’t be too surprised if he was also given his own personal Scroll. After all, how else was he supposed to communicate with everyone? So if Oscar has a Scroll, Ruby can introduce him to the mystical world of videogames and the two can converse over a few rounds.
Like imagine, Ruby asking Oscar what to do while the two were alone. Oscar, being the diligent bean he is, suggests they should possibly continue their training regiment and spar together in a rematch however Ruby denounces that option by slyly encouraging the farm boy to join her in a spirited round of *Insert RWBY-verse videogame*.
Oscar is, of course, skeptical as he’s never been one to be good at videogames nor has he ever played a videogame before (he strikes me more of outdoorsy, all work and no play book-worm type). This only excites Ruby more as she eagerly exposes Oscar to the fun of videogames.
Not only do the two have their rematch on the gaming platform but the hype and distraction of the game disperses any initial awkwardness between them and the two are actually able to hold a decent conversation between them, discussing everything from their favourite hobbies to foods to family; no talk of any impending wars at all.
Just a nice tête-à-tête between two teens with zero interruption from Ozpin.
We have yet to see Oscar just relax, have fun and truly be a kid. As a matter of fact, the first time fans saw Oscar debut to the story was with him waking up early in the morning to work.
If Oscar’s life was a song, it’d probably be Work by Rihanna. All he does is work, work, work, work, work, work.
He went from working on a farm to working to become a huntsman. Not a day’s rest.
Hard to believe he’s only fourteen.
Can I just have one episode or at least a moment in an episode where Oscar can just be a kid? I want so many things for this precious young avocado bean.
One of them is for him to just be a kid for a day or at least an afternoon and just have FUN. Enjoy the good ole fun times before everything goes to shit in the coming episodes.
And if Oscar can have fun while spending it with Ruby; opening up to her about himself and his life before Mistral, that would be beyond amazing. Let’s face it, Ruby is closest thing to a best friend Oscar has at this point, minus Ozpin (that ancient fart) but he literally lives inside his head so I don’t think that counts. At least if Oscar learnt to genuinely like Ruby and forms a true bond with her, it’ll be of his own choice (the first one he’s made since he became Ozpin’s successor).
I’ve had this cute little idea in my head of Oscar describing his past home life on his aunt’s farm to Ruby, who’s never been on a real farm and the young huntress is surprisingly fascinated by it all, practically bombarding Oscar with questions about what it’s like growing up on a farm. Because Ruby loves the idea of his aunt’s farm so much, in a spurt of confidence, Oscar sort of blushingly invites her to spend the summer with him on his aunt’s farm after making mention of how much more beautiful the farm is in the summer (y’know with flower fields and shit).
Of course, he only meant it as a shy joke at first, not expecting Ruby to take him seriously. However when she does, happy accepting his offer with a flushed face of her own, the two then make a promise to each other; a cute little pinkie-swear pact to spend the summer together on Oscar’s farm after defeating Salem.
I know this will NEVER happen in the show (cause my poor shipping Oscar Pine development pining ass is not the one writing for RWBY) but damn, oh how I wish Miles and Kerry could see this and at least consider tossing it in for us RoseGarden fans.
Do you know what would be interesting?
What if...Volume 5 concludes with the Mistral gang being forced to vacate the citadel and go into hiding somewhere out of Lionheart’s view after that they’ve learnt of his full alliance with Salem?
They can’t go to Atlas because they still need to stay close to Mistral in order to safeguard the Relic of Knowledge and prevent the Fall of Haven Academy.
So what’s a good place for them to lay low and come up with a better plan of action? A place that’s not too far from the city but still pretty far enough and more likely to be in the middle of nowhere where the chances of Lionheart finding them are quite slim?
I’m not making any big speculations here. I’m just saying. Oscar’s aunt sure did look like she had a lot of land on that farm of hers...with a lot of big trees...and two barns...probably more than one which would be the perfect cover to house a couple of people hiding from the law.
I’m just saying. The Walking Dead did an entire season and story arc where the main characters were refugees on a farm. Not saying the CRWBY writers are Walking Dead fans either but...we never did get to learn more about Oscar and his family background now, did we?
Volume 4 gave us some good insight into Ren and Nora’s past, though. Blake and Weiss too. We finally got to meet their respective families in the last volume as well. I’m just saying. Oscar does house Ozpin’s soul. He’s practically a main character now, right? Right.
Sure would be swell if he got some development that explored his family ties just like Ren and Nora...and Weiss...and Blake...and Ruby...andYang...and Qrow! We also got to see Qrow’s family ties last season too. So, when’s Oscar due for his, huh? Jusssst saying.
If Chapter 8 is to be all about Oscar and Ruby bonding but still end on more grim terms, then let Salem send Tyrian to exact his revenge and collect the girl.
May I remind everyone that Tyrian Callows has been surprisingly absent this volume? The last mention of him was in Episode 2 when Salem ordered Watts to create a new tail for him.
As revealed at the end of the last episode, Watts is currently with Cinder and her squad on a mission to attack the Branwen Tribe for Spring Maiden which means that Watts must’ve finished his work on Tyrian’s new tail.
They wouldn’t send Hazel after Ruby since he’s busy babysitting High Leader Adam Taurus. While he may be in Mistral and could offer some assistance if Salem saw him to do so, still, the point is that he’s on his own assignment at the moment that has nothing to do with crossing paths with the Mistral gang.
This only leaves Tyrian and seeing as he has his own personal beef with the silver-eyed girl, I wouldn’t be surprised if Salem has been saving him for now to strike Ruby at her most vulnerable.
Things have been pretty comfortable for the crew during their stay in Mistral so far. And I find it oddly peculiar that we haven’t heard or seen anything new from Professor Lionheart in some time. Since the second episode actually. That’s an awful lot of time to be quiet and quietly waiting lions can be quite deadly. Lionheart must know where these guys are staying in Mistral and wouldn’t be surprised if he would be involved in a sudden staged attack on them.
Oooh you know what? Remember back in the first episode, how Oscar showed up on the gang’s doorstep asking for Ruby cause of Qrow? Imagine a parallel of that same scene where Lionheart surprisingly shows up, all nervous-looking on the gang’s doorstep asking for Ruby Rose and it’s Oscar who answers the door. Of course, he and Ruby are all alone and Oscar becomes especially suspicious of the Headmaster’s sudden presence at the group’s home, even more so when Ozpin warns him to be on his guard like he did with Hazel.
Turns out Lionheart was just the decoy/distraction as Tyrian suddenly comes out of nowhere and goes after Ruby off screen while Lionheart takes care of Oscar. It’d be funny to see Lionheart attempting to subdue Oscar, thinking he’ll get the upper-hand over the boy given his experience even with his rustiness. Much to Lionheart’s surprise, Oscar holds his own pretty well, putting his training to good use.
I want Oscar to fight Lionheart but only in a brief moment for two reasons.
One, I want to get a glimpse of Lionheart’s weapon of choice or at least his fighting style/semblance if possible and two, if a scene like this is done then we can get a sneak peak of Oscar fighting in addition to the look of complete shock on Lionheart’s when he realizes that Oscar is Ozpin.
Admittedly I like Lionheart. His character design is a favourite of mine from this season. However while I’m wondering if there’ll be a chance for him to be redeemed somehow, I can’t help the part of me that believes the CRWBY might be shaping him up to become the Peter Pettigrew/Wormtail of Ozpin’s so-called ‘most-trusted lieutenants’.
Imagine if...Tyrian attacks Ruby during his and Lionheart’s assault on their threshold and though she fights back valiantly, Ruby ends up getting captured this time around as a result of Tyrian’s newly improved tail which come with an added upgrade---A venom that renders its victim unconscious, perhaps?
What if...part of the build up to this volume’s epic conclusion revolves around Ruby being abducted by Tyrian who escapes with Lionheart to be taken to Salem.
I can actually see the build up to the finale of Volume 5 going three ways:
In Menagerie, we could have the ultimate showdown between Blake and Illia as she and Sun fight to protect the Massacre of the Belladonna Household. I figured this moment is too important to Blake’s side of the story and the side of the Battle of Haven with the Faunus for it to be glossed over in just one or even two episodes.
In the Branwen Tribe, it’s Cinder vs. Raven as she attempts to protect Vernal. At first I pegged Vernal and Raven’s relationship as a secretly romantic one.
Not really my ship but the thought did cross my mind. But then I thought that maybe Vernal and Raven have a mother-daughter type of bond and Vernal is Raven’s substitute for Yang, to make up for the fact that she missed out on her own daughter’s life for whatever unexplained reason in the series.
Someone theorized that Raven is bonded to Vernal so that’s how she’s able to teleport back immediately to the tribe campsite with her semblance. So if Vernal and Raven are close, it’d make sense if Raven might sacrifice herself to protect Vernal. Like perhaps Raven is captured by Cinder but before she is taken away, she uses her semblance to send Vernal to Qrow in Mistral.
In Mistral, it’s Vernal who informs Qrow of his sister’s abduction by the enemy around the same time the team learn from Oscar that Ruby has also been captured by Lionheart and Tyrion. This forces the gang no choice but to divide and conquer.
While she would much rather do it herself, Yang entrusts Oscar along with Team JNR to go after Lionheart and Tyrian to save Ruby (my guess is that she’d be held captive at Haven Academy) while she, accompanied by Weiss, Qrow and Vernal would go after Cinder and her forces to save Raven.
The intro did tease Yang fighting Mercury. If Raven was captured by Cinder to lure out the Spring Maiden, it would make sense if we got a rematch between Mercury and Yang after she comes to rescue her mother.
It would be cool to see all these things happen in the series. But, I’m no psychic so who knows how the next few episodes will play out.
One thing’s for certain, I’m really hoping that Chapter 8 is about Ruby and Oscar this time or at least have them be a vocal point at some instance in the episode. Seriously. Then again, while I want to remain hopeful, the CRWBY have stood me up at this dance before.
*shruggity shrug* I guess we’ll see tomorrow then.
~LittleMissSquiggles (2017)
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