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FRAGMENT (stylized as FRAG;MENT) is a fictional, six-member Japanese-Korean boy group under WANDER STUDIO, a fictional Japan-based subsidiary of HYBE labels. The group made their debut on April 18, 2024 with their EP “I Passed You On A Warm Spring Day; We Shared Nothing But A Glance” and lead single INFINITE CYNICISM. Prior to their debut, they garnered attention for their producer, fictional former NEWS member HIGUCHI TSUBASA, and for their lineup that contained familiar faces from the jpop and kpop industries. Their debut was met with immediate success, peaking at number one on the Oricon singles chart.
The group was first introduced in mid 2023 through a series of cryptic Instagram posts collaging the past experiences of the members and encouraging fan speculation of the future group members. As the group’s name and concept were finalized and revealed to the public, they faced scrutiny for their similarities to other HYBE boy groups, especially ENHYPEN. Their use of semicolons in the group name and album title was thought to be a direct copy and paste of Enhypen’s hyphens. The darker tones of their singular music video so far and their supernatural concept based on kitsune and gumiho mythology were two more steps too far. One thing still-unnamed Fragment fans will do is fight Engenes. It’s the most excitement they’ve had since they were guessing who would be in the group from cryptic Instagram posts. The other thing they’ll do is argue that Tsubasa and the rest of their production team do, in fact, know how to use a semicolon.
MEMBERS
TAKEMOTO AKIRA (2000) — Leader, former member of project kpop group 1V1. Introduced first with:
A shooting star — His defunct personal Instagram user, @.akirakira, where kirakira is the Japanese onomatopoeia for sparkles. A still from Dance Dance Revolution — Arguably his favorite video game. One of his character traits from Last Act into 1V1.
The Dotonbori Glico billboard — A landmark of his hometown, Osaka.
NISHIKAWA RYUJI (2001) — Former member of coed jpop group MAKE MY WAY. Introduced third with:
A series of arrows pointing west — The first character of his surname, which helped define Make My Way’s group name as well.
A honeycomb — Part of the title of Make My Way’s disbandment song, Mitsu no Aji (Taste of Honey).
A lot of dogs — His back-up career plan to be a veterinarian, which he mentioned many times while in Make My Way.
MOON JINWOO (2002) — Center, former member of 1V1. Introduced sixth with:
The constellation Pleiades — His past experience as a Pledis Entertainment trainee.
The number 10 — His final rank on Last Act, the survival show that formed 1V1.
A game over screen — The title of 1V1’s first and last album.
MORI KAKERU (2002) — Former member of MAKE MY WAY. Introduced second with:
The Shibuya Scramble Crossing — The filming location of his first music video with Make My Way.
Silver accents — His representative color while in Make My Way.
A stock photo of a person running — The first character of his given name, meaning to run.
YONEZAWA DAIKI (2003) — Former JOHNNY’S JR. member. Introduced fifth with:
A samurai and a ninja — His participation in Johnny’s Jr. groups 7 MEN SAMURAI and SHONEN NINJA.
ASL for the letter D — The hand motion he uses alongside his catchphrase, “Oneechan, don’t you think I’m cute?”
Fujippi — The mascot of Shizuoka Prefecture, where he was born.
HEO HYUN (2003) — Former YG Entertainment trainee, part of the fan-made SILVER BOYS group. Introduced fourth with:
The number nine in a treasure chest — His participation in survival shows MIXNINE and YG TREASURE BOX, where he was eliminated twice.
A turtle — He has three pet turtles. It was part of his personality on YGTB.
The lyrics to TVXQ’s Hug — The last song he performed on Mixnine before his elimination.
DISCOGRAPHY
I Passed You On A Warm Spring Day; We Shared Nothing But A Glance — EP, 2024
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HELLO!! we had the prettiest fireworks for new years, I hope yours also went great! and I have been doing well tysm :( I just read a fic that left me CRYING but it's ok it was worth it 😋
HOWLING WAS LITERALLY THE SHOW I WAS THINKING OF WHEN I WROTE THAT. I hate that show with a burning passion I WAS SOHOPEFUL AND THEN IT ENDED JUST LIKE ILAND..and they were all so talented n happy like THE CAMPFIRE SCENE?? I was in tears nothing will ever affect me more deeply. I had to do a double take when I saw gaku didnt make the cut bc are we talking abt the same gaku? bffr he deserved that lineup N HAYATE TOO he was so :(( I wanna give him the world :(( worst fridays ever fr. idk HOW atbo aren't more popular bc they seem exactly like the type of group that would be?? their energy is so refreshing where is the recognition. NAHH UR HEADER IS YUMA?? HEAD IN HANDS HOW DID I NOT RECOGNIZE HIM 😭😭 I legit thought u said ryu when I asked u abt the header pic n now that I see the photos they don't even look the same GOODNIGHT
ooh but they are SAURR PRETTY OMG?? pinterest model worthy idc idc how can u be pretty AND funny AND talented like cmon now u can't be real 🤦♀️ especially hyunjun. no favoritism buuut.. I will be studying this like lts my finals TYSM
ALSO ALSO I saw u were going to a ph1 concert n thats? Amazing?? I hope u have fun have an amazing time! n tell me how soul looked irl pretty pls
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my new yrs was great, i'm so glad to hear that urs was too!!! <3
but ffr, like why wasn't my boy hikaru, hayate, AND gaku in the final lineup??? LIKE WHAT A BUNCH OF FUCKING HATERS!!!! n the header thing made me giggle a lil bc i was like are we talkin abt junmin rn orrr??? LMAOOO ur good dwdw
ur so right abt atbo tho, like their energy is so slay n new and it's smth kpop stans been literally asking for in terms of new groups yk smth fresh n different but they're sleeping on my boys 😭😭😭 i also think it's bc they "plagiarized" nct 127's kick it move but tbh... kpop stans js don't get that basic grooves exist in the dance community and that the move existed BEFORE nct... cue the crickets bc czennies drilled into those boys for no damn reason, it was so stupid. i fr hope they get popular soon bc they deserve it, esp yeonkyu bc he was in ygtb n now u can see how much he's grown, it's wild 😭
yesyes, it's literally this month n i'm going CRAZY bc i'm trying to buy a lightstick in time n my paycheck is tAKING FORVEEREEJDIEK i'm so excited n my mom's coming w me n she's excited too so ARGFHFHDJ I CAN'T WAIT!!! I WILL LITERALLY POST PICTURES IF I CAN BC MY SEATS KINDA SUCK A LIL BUT IM NOT COMPLAINING BC COME AWNNN IM SEE PIWON LIVEEEE!!!!!
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PLOT TWIST OF THE CENTURY
ASAHI ASAHI ASHAI
DEBUTED
SAKNCSOCN
WSOW
IM SO HAPPY
I LOVE HIM
MY TREASURE J STAN HEART IS LIVING
YESSS
YOSHI, MASHI AND ASAHI
AND HARUTO///
LETSGETIT
I LOVE LIFE
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silver boys stans what were your favourite trainees other than the boys? mine we’re yoshi, seokhwa and mashiho
#i'm curious to know#tbh i just loved 00line#but i always do#can you see i'm deflecting the sadness about this final lineup#silver boys#ygtb#yg treasure box#stay-dreamie
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watching PDX101 after the shitshow that yg preference box was, is like a breathe of fresh air. u got people appreciating talent. it's been a while since I last saw that.
#on today's tea#yeah mnet sucks a lot#but#song yuvin choi byungchan kim wooseok and kim gukheon being at the top 20#shows that ppl know when someone deserves their spot#sure there a many overrated trainees but hey not everything can be perfect#i'm just loving this season a lot#dunno why#i already got my top 11 and some other faves so i'm ready for my heart to be broken in the final#i'm a 99% sure 6/11 will debut so it's okay#ik i'm salty but bold of anyone to assume i'll have some appreciation for ygtb after gonhun midam and woong not being in the final lineup#lmao djdkdkdldl woong was even kicked out before#and he's now the main vocal and lead dancer of a group with 2 wanna one members and mxm#thank u rhymer for knowing what's good#gonhun are gonna change the game for kpop and it shows#baejin and hun have such unique voices#i'm expecting a chill r&b concept for roty vol.2#as of pdx101 final lineup jdjfkdld aka roty vol.3 i'm so excited#vale.txt
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MY BBY MASHIHO 😭
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OHMYGOD
IM—
I CANT BELIVE
!!!!!!!YOSHI!!!!!!!
HES IN THE NEW GROUP.
THE NEW LINEUP.
WOW.
CATCH ME CRYING IN THE CLUB.
THIS GROUP IS ALREADY SO POWERFUL THEY SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO DEBUT LOL IM SO FUCKIN HYPE.
#does this mean#yalls are finally gonna wake the fuck up#and stop sleeping on by bias#the man himself#yoshinori#i still hate yg but uhhhhh...... im supporting the fuck out of treasure 2.0#tbhh i wish junkyu was in this lineup instead. i feel like his voice blends better with mashiho#doyoung etc.#anywho#ygtb#yg treasure box#yg#ygentretaiment#ygnbg
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u ever think abt how junkyu likes to watch documentaries about like . whatever and jihoon will absolutely indulge all his weird questions abt everything and beg him to come out to eat and says even when they aren’t talking they don’t need their phones bc being in each other’s company is enough and the reason they became close is bc they were both up at dawn after doing poorly on their evaluations and junkyu wanted to go to busan bc it’s where jihoon grew up and even back during ygtb it was junkyu that jihoon said he hoped would make the final lineup and he Did without jihoon at first but there was no way these two weren’t meant to end up together so . so
#I haven’t had a jikyu meltdown in a while so it was time sorry ur welcome etc but like#I’m just passionate about soulmatery#also as an extrovert like ji with an introvert soulmate bestie like kyu I feel their bond on a visceral level#erithoughts
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wait wait wait ate z,, you stan ygtb? 👁👁 whos your bias or your favorite that didn't make that cut? my favorites in general was yeongue, seokhwa, yoonbin, jihoon and junkyu 🥺 -nini
ate 🤡 we're mOnThS apart sweetie but okay sjdhskdb
anywaysssss sjdhskfh ngl i forgot most of their names from how long it was since i last looked into them 🤧🤧 so i had to look them up again 🤡 i remember really liking yeongue too 🤧🤧 (pls his smile i'm dead aaaaaaaaaa) and i thought junhyuk was really cute and cool too ngl skdhskfj
but honestly i'm quite surprised most of my picks ended up in the final lineup one way or another :0 like there was junghwan who caught my attention first and then there was also doyoung, junkyu, mashiho, haruto but now i kinda maybe might've swerved and now i probably might bias jeongwoo now oops
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Rant time: my pick got eliminated on pdx101
Ok so I just finished watching the live video for pdx101 ep 8 and I’m honestly so fucking mad. My absolute pick, my favourite, my everything: Kang Seokhwa, got eliminated. I’m not happy, I’m totally disappointed. I really hoped that he would at least be like number 30 or even 29, but nope, it’s 35 place AGAIN. I’ve been crying for the past hour, I honestly don’t want to believe this.
I’ve never had a pick that got eliminated so this is a huge shock for me personally. Seokhwa has been my favourite ever since ygtb and I always prayed that he would be in the final lineup. Tbh, it’s mnet’s fault for not giving him screen time if they did they probably would’ve mentioned how he is a former yg and jyp trainee??? Omg my blood is boiling.
To Seokhwa:
idk if you’ll ever read this but I adored you since ygtb, even though you received barely any screen time you still made my heart beat each time I saw your adorable face. I was heartbroken when I saw you get eliminated from ygtb, I had no one else who I really liked other than you. I was super excited when I saw your pics for pdx101 and was hyped that there was a chance that you could debut! But no, mnet gives you small screen time and you barely got any recgonition for your amazing skills. I’m sorry you had to get eliminated the second time from a survival show. We know how talented you are and I prayed every night that you would get in but I guess nobody heard me :( my heart is broken and it feels terrible to see you sitting there waiting for your name to be called. I’m glad you got to go on produce and show your skills. You deserved much more than you got and I wish you the best!! Please don’t give up on your dreams and get closer to the stage, where you belong 💕
For all the trainees who passed; congratulations!!! I hope you guys can pull off the songs well and show a good performance for us.
Btw I’m still pissed that Seokhwa never got to be center :(( seeing him cry made me cry as well, Seokhwa bby I can understand your struggle being in low rank, I know you wanted to pass but you were only 5 ranks low. Please don’t give up and debut with a fresh smile!!
(Also Midam’s elimination made me mad, he deserved better!!!!)
#kang seokhwa#seokhwa#pdx101#produce x 101#rant#idk im just sad#ive been crying for too long#love u seokhwa!!!
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Why YG TREASURE BOX is a complete mess and YG is playing with us. (A rant?)
First, its important to understand what or YGTB is and how it was promoted for this we should understand the events that happened before.
NOTE: YG will be referred to as a they since there are other people besides YHS Making the Decisions.
All of YG’s boy groups were made through survival shows.
BIGBANG=BIGBANG DOC
WINNER=WIN
IKON=WIN/M&M
So it was pretty obvious that they would reuse this concept for their new bg.
Now its safe to assume that the group was set to be made around Bang Yedam, he’s popular in Korea plus that he was the moat famous trainee .
Now this is the general assumption that the original silver boys lineup ot11 were the lineup set up to debut. This is the reason why they were promoted through Mixnine (GonSukKyu) and Stray Kidz (YG vs JYP). But we all know Mixnine failed and that some trainees left making YG To rethink their concept and lineup.
Now we must remember that prior to the show starting YG teased that Yedam, Hyunsuk and Raesung were basically confirmed members.
Raesung, due to personal reasons decided to not participate in the show (the best decisions honestly).
Currently YG as a company is at a point were every fandom in it has problems with the company. This is all due to the amount of mismanagement towards the majority if not all the groups and artists. YG despite being the house of great and unique artists doesn’t know how to mange them which leads to long hiatus, less music and cbs,etc.
Now lets analyze the problems with the shows format. Moat idol survival shows have the same format. Which is simply individual competition. This means that the contestants will be evaluated and the voting will be individual or 1 pick (produce 101).
YGTB showed the beginning to be more a team survival show in other words a group compete with other groups (Win). But around the second and third episode its revealed that the show will be individual, shifting the format. This is first seen strange since a consistent theme in YGs previous groups is their teamwork but this is because since predebut the trainees are grouped into groups.
In the show we are never truly explained about how the show works and if it is its vague and very contrictdactory. Plus a lot of unfair and frankly weird things are shown ( compared to other survival shows)
Examples of this are:
• Number of final lineup is always changing: from 7 to 9 to 7 to 6 to 5 to 7 it would change depending the mood od the ceo.
• YHS changes rules at whim: YHS changes or adds rules
• Missions: the missions to compete against the treasure team were barely explained. Winpink came to the show mostly just for name Dropping cause they didn’t show why they chose who they chose. The ep were winner 2seung was going to examine their performances was cut to almost nothing more than click Bait.
• The rounds or missions made little sense , at the beginning it 1:1 , then 2:2 (duo), then team genre(?)/concept (in my opinion they weren’t that different in my opinion to be a concept eval but oh well)and putting a position battle at the end ……makes little sense
In Produce and other shows its usually a cover, position, concept and then original song evaluation. Showing the growth.
• Lack of original ygtb songs most survival shows make their own songs fir the concept and final evaluations (example Mixnine). YG is company that prides on self production but not once was this used despite various trainee being able to ( Yedam, Hyunsuk, Byounggon, Asahi, Yoshinori, etc.) . Even if the boys couldn’t yg producers could’ve made songs just like in Mixnine.
• Lack of fan events besides liking a trainees video and channel there weren’t chances for the fans to feel really close to them. With the individual channels they could’ve done random lives but no. Or fanmeetings.
Despite this the show did release a series of interesting content that honestly saved the show.
• Not letting all the trainees participate in the treasure swap and cutting and not airing the performances certain trainees made. Leaving the fans to have to watch fancams.
Now to explain the real mess, throughout the whole show fans were confused on how they could help their faves in terms of voting. YG opens voting till the last 2 episodes and makes it a group voting meaning you have to vote for a group of trainees. According to fans this means that the lineup with most votes will have an advantage to debut. On the last ep its revealed that Isn’t case at all. The trainees only got extra points depending on how many ranks or lineups they were in. In other words again it was individual voting. They didn’t explain this till ep 10 when the voting’s was done. Along with this they added the final nail to the coffin. These online votes were only worth 20% of the final score. With onsite votes at a 30%. But YHS gets 50% of the score, so basically YHS gets to choose at the end od the day so fan votes mean close to nothing. If a trainee did well on votes but isn’t YGs fave they wont pass and vice versa.
On top of all of this YG makes sure fans aren’t in the recording of the ranking to obviously avoid discord and only announces half the lineup for what we can only assume is for drama. Only YG and some staff know the lineup. Instead of releasing it all its adding more anxiety and desperation . Which can be seen in the fighting, the rumors and spamming.
Now that we’ve established that YGTB is a mess of a show that makes Mixnine look good, lets talk about favoritism and screentime. And why I don’t understand YGs intentions and the lineup.
Ok let get this out of the way YG/YHS always plays favorites, this isn’t new at all. We can see in the show that there are trainees YHS likes way more compared to others. In other words he tends to be very biased. On top that he likes to brag. The first ep is basically look at all the visuals I got.
All it takes is to watch the show to know who Yg/YHS like more baaed on screentime and arcs made. Lets Look at the confirmed members most got solid screentime. Yedam is pushed from the get go to being a super star trainee that is basically god where other trainees don’t want to be against him. Junkyu is cute and talented a good future asset, we see how he gets screentime from the start with his confidence arc. Plus its important to note that in Mixnine YHS’s fave was Junkyu . Haruto from the start was the Japanese trainee YG was interested in and he Gets the most screentime from the Japanese trainees. Jeongwoo was promoted through his vocal and how yg likes him, he gets attention. Junghwan On the other hand gets way less screentime then the other member but still way more than other less known trainees.
That being said a lot of the team b, team c and team j trainees get very little to no screentime. Jongseob who won Kpop Star didn’t get much screentime and performance was cut. Mashiho’s screentime is mostly reactions or being a friend.
Silver boys got the most screentime overall they focused a lot on their teamwork and bond giving fans the hope that they would debut. Which is were im frankly confused and would love to understand the why.
Why make silver boys participate in this show and emphasize so much on them for basically nothing?
Why bring Jihoon back?
Why bring Seunghun back?
After hours and hours of thinking and reading opinions. I came to a few theories:
A) YG wants to debut a fresh, young and visual new bg. For whatever reason, so choosing the younger trainees makes sense. Probably modeled around Yedam for a more pop sound in comparison to WinKon Some accounts state that a lot of kfans were pushing yg for a younger and visual group. Basically discarding the older trainees. Also this lineup has YGs faves who were the younger ones. If this is true YG will debut Yoonbin and Masiho or Yoonbin and Jaehyuk (his screentime in the last episodes makes me think so). Basically in this theory YG had an idea from the get go and they only used the silver boys for clout. This is the theory that makes me the saddest tbh. But still it doesn’t explain why yg would care so much about silver boys. Like bringing them back and emphasizing so mucho on how they’re a team. Plus it discards the power Hyunsuk has with one of the most stable fandoms.
B) The theory before the lineup was dropped was that yg Is testing the silver boys for the last time which made sense till the last episode. But SB stans have been very loud and spammed his Instagram, trended a hashtag and are contacting companies. This means they have a strong fandom so this might help.
C) YG will add more members to the lineup I think 9 is more realistic than 11. Based on screentime maybe Hyunsuk + Seunghun.
D) YG will debut all of ot13, doubt this since YG hasn’t have that big of a group and I don’t think YG can handle it. If it was SM yeah but not this. (I like this one tho )
E) YG will debut ot13 but in 2 teams a pop team and hip-hop team. Pop=treasure7 Hip-hop=silver boys +a member (I love this)
F) YG will debut SB but under the black label.
G) YG wont do anything except debuting the og treasure7 . And the sbs will leave the company and split up.
These are all the theories I have.
Tldr: YGTB has a lot of flaws as a survival show being extremely unfair and the situation with the lineup is the most chaotic thing ever. Whatever yg does will make people mad.
The worst part is that it worked as always YG doing the minimal manages to pull us in just to disappoint us. Just that he managed to drag more people this time.
At this point I’m done with the guessing and the rumors, I just really want to know what’s going on and the security that my faves are ok even if they’re in or not in the group. Cause not debuting in the group isn’t the end they can debut with another group or go solo. My point is that it isnt the end for their careers.
#ygtb#yg trainee#yg treasurebox#yedam#kim seunghun#yg seunghun#silver boys#ygnbg#choi hyunsuk#yg jihoon#yg doyoung#yg haruto#yg jeongwoo#yoonbin#ygtb yoonbin#i hate this#i hate y#personal rant#sorry for the rant#yg rant#kim junkyu#mashiho#team a#team a + jihoon#winner yg#blackpink#junhyuk#so junghwan
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so funny story, I got recommended atbo literally the day after I sent my last ask, and I kinda sorta definitely went on a rabbit hole and yea...I love them.
wait bin w a s n t supposed to be in the lineup? I would've never known, he is crazy talented 😭 i won't be watching the survival show tho bc they always break my heart <3 not ONE survival show hasn't left me crying. I also didn't know they debuted so recently! These boys were fighting to be in a group and i didnt even know they existed- n tagalog is such a pretty language! I'm glad he speaks it bc any foreign member in a kpop group is rare. I'm glad it's becoming more common now though. do NOT apologize for ranting this was v good to know! and I think I might need help with their names n faces LMAO 😞 I can't tell who's who but they're all wonderful regardless. I do remember ryu bc he's the one in your header, that's as far as I got sigh
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aur ma gawd, my sweet lil ladybug anon!! hope u've been well!! but yasss binnie wasn't supposed to be in the original lineup, donghwa was!!! he got kicked out of atbo bc of bullying scandals (which i haven't rly checked up on so i'm neutral idk anything abt it LOL) but forealzies, i literally cannot watch survival shows, esp after pd 101 szn 2, pd x 101, and ygtb like THOSE WERE THE WORST YEARS FOR ME BROOO same w the howling, i had such a hard time watching it bc they're all so talented n contribute a lot to make &audition what it is... esp since ma boy gaku and hayate didn't make the final cut like GTFO MY FACE NEOW. i'm literally so heartbroken so i only watched clips of the howling and tbh, they should've js debuted all tgt but yk, hybe's full of haters!!! but going back to atbo, i do hope they get popular soon bc they're sooo talented. btw, my header pic is yuma from &team! :D
anyways, here's atbo's profile :3 (u can also check out the link!)
oh junseok. — 03/03/2003. leader, sub rapper.
ryu junmin. — 04/05/2003. vocalist.
bae hyunjun. — 06/06/2003. rapper.
seok rakwon. — 11/14/2003. vocalist, sub rapper.
jeong seunghwan. — 01/27/2004. dancer, vocalist.
kim yeonkyu. — 05/03/2004. vocalist.
won bin. — 07/01/2004. maknae, vocalist.
from left to right: junseok, junmin, hyunjun, rakwon, seunghwan, yeonkyu, won bin.
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TREASURE 13
OH MY GOSH
HE CAVED
YG CAVED
OH MY GOSH
I CANT BELIEVE
IM SO HAPPY
MASHIKYU
TREASURE J
S I L V E R B O Y S
!!!!!!
EVERYONE CAN BE TOGETHER
EVERYONE CAN BE HAPPY
NO MORE WEIRD AND UNCOMFORTABLE LINEUPS
NO MORE LONG RANTS
YALL BETTER STOP COMPLAINING
BECAUSE OT13 IS DEBUTING!!’
#ONSJXKEKSKD#JSXMJJSS#IM SO HAPPY#I ALMOST CRIED#SKXMMD#ygtb#yg treasure box#ygtb final lineup#ygtb ot13#treasure#treasure 13
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Tbh i dont want any of the other silver boys to make the final lineup anymore, it'd just look awkward to have byounggon or seunghun next to junghwan. Just make a separate group for them instead (since we all know they fucking deserve to debut), cuz it seems like yg is going for the young boy vibe for the ygtb group.
I don't think yg realizes what an idiotic move he has made. If you look at it from a business stand point 2 groups = more money. And we all know companies only care about the coin. The logical thing to do would be to debut the OG trainees first, and then later on another group with fresh trainees.
Nothing. And i mean NOTHING can convince me that silver boys isn't the perfect team. They are the dream team we will never get now.
Plz debut jihoon as well? Or even better all of silver boys together?
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YGTB Final Lineup Statistics
Members Debuting from Each Team:
TEAM A: 4/6
TEAM B: 3/8
TEAM C: 2/7
TEAM J: 4/7
Members Debuting in Treasure
TEAM A: 3/6
TEAM B: 1/8
TEAM C: 2/7
TEAM J: 1/7
Members Debuting in Lineup 2:
TEAM A: 1/6
TEAM B: 2/8
TEAM C: 0/7
TEAM J: 3/7
Average Age of TREASURE (intl): 16
Average Age of Lineup 2 (intl): 17
# of Semi-Finalists Debuting: 11/13
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Final Thoughts on YGTB/The Lineup
... well let’s just jump right into it shall we?
ok.. this show was a waste of time and a waste of all my fucking emotions. the only reason i put up with YG’s bullshit is because I thought team a+jihoon would debut, but yg is too fucking stupid to do that so : )
anyways, let’s get into the reason why this show is trash :)
first of all, the emotional trauma all the boys have been put through?
there are 28 trainees, they all thought that the debut group was going to be 5 members... imagine how stressful and scary that must be for all of them. once they split from their respective teams, they were all heartbroken they were being split from their friends? seriously... what was yg doing breaking such strong teamwork in ALL the teams...
the reason why ikon was, and is, so popular is because of their strong teamwork. people are connected to the bond between the members and it shows when people have been through a lot together
moving on, there are literally 13&14 year old kids in this show... like c’mon, what i was worrying about at 14 was if my friends had the same lunch as me.. :/ and on top of the trainee life, they’re forced to be split from all their friends... these poor dudes
AND THE EDITING, OH GOSH THE EDITING
for the ENTIRE show, YG depicted team a as the “bad guys”. first from when yoonbin and yeongue lost the 2:2 battle. so many people got upset, saying that it was a popularity battle when in reality, they had the smallest gap out of all the teams... hah .
they also edited out byounggon’s rap in the Im Not Sorry performance which caused ppl to think that only Seunghun controlled that stage, when in reality, both of them chewed up the stage.
im not even going to mention how initially Yoonbin x Keita’s rap battle was edited out before they were hella popular cuz yg is a fucking snake and there are SO many examples as to which this happened so i’ll only name a few
next, THE FINAL GOING CRAZY PERFORMANCE. the focus was SO obviously on Jaehyuk when Hyunsuk started to rap ... like cameraman... the rapper was Hyunsuk, not Jaehyuk... pls ... also, when jihoon was singing, the cameraman panned to junghwan... i think im starting to predict something : )
anyways, Doyoung and Jihoon were both edited out of their FINAL PERFORMANCE ON THIS SHOW??? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. Doyoung choreographed that dance YET his solo in Earned It was edited out?? and Jihoon was just edited out completely??? i thought we would FINALLY get to hear both of their stunning vocals and ... nothing .... it’s obvious only yg’s favorites gets aired
now, mentioning all of team a+jihoon being mistreated, i kept up with this fucking show because i thought yg was just trying to rile up fans and would debut them later.... I WAS WRONG.
all silver boys can either write songs, produce music, and choreograph... yet he chose some members that cant... im not saying that Haruto and Junghwan are untalented, when I think they’re very good at what they do, but theyre just so young and have so much more room to grow. YG chose these members because of their potential .. but he refused to debut boys who already have honed their potential ... wtf
YG obviously only used Silver Boys as a way to gain popularity for this show, and it’s not sitting well with me. tons of fans have been waiting s o l o n g for these boys to debut, especially last year in the Stray Kids survival show and Mixnine. they had fans who were dedicated and saw their talent, and were waiting for them (i am one myself). and when YGTB was released, it seemed like the perfect show because it had all my favorite boys ! (ok most im looking at you jeonwoong, raesung, and noa)
but then yg turns around and pulls this ... this on us...
seriously come at me for saying this cuz im going to delete my account soon :/
ALSO ive seen so many posts telling Silver Boys stans to like calm down ?? and to not hate on the members... let me get this straight, IM NOT HATING ON THEM. Simply saying someone is too young and inexperienced to debut is NOT hate.
Also, yg expected this happen. he knew junghwan (and even haruto) would get hate and backlash and he debuted them anyways... seriously if that isnt the definition of cruel. he just wants to stir up the public and honestly idk if it’s going to work this time since so many people are upset. yg SAW the online voting which, if you didn’t know, had 300K votes for the Silver Boys, yet he still didn’t choose to debut them... wow
if yg’s target was younger fans... he got them. but im just saying this now, all yg groups have older, more mature fans, and what i’ve seen from this fandom is not that. yg just lost a veteran yg stan but he doesnt care does he now
also , dont console SB fans when you’re just trying to defend your faves. and when i say console, dont say “omg just support the group! you have to stan forever or else you’re fake>:(” like... NO. you actually dont have to stan a group you dont like ??? i have freedom ?? LMAO
plus raesung coming to the final show made all of us VERY emotional and we wanted a happy ending for our boys, and we didnt get one. which obviously crushed us, so just,,, back off for a moment and dont try to make us feel worse about what’s happening right now
anyways, yg basically debuted a group with visuals (as of right now) and it’s making me sick. i didnt think he was taking the visuals things seriously but seeing this lineup? he obviously was. and no, im not saying that visuals dont have talent just to be clear. im just saying that there are people who are “not visuals” who are just as talented.
my predictions for the next three members? It’s Yoonbin or Hyunsuk, Mashiho, and Jaehyuk. why? they’re all yg’s favorites and are visuals.
im not in the mood for discussion just come in my inbox if you’re going to talk about Silver Boys or about how nice your day was cuz i need to either distract myself or mourn ;-;
also the immense guilt that silver boys stans feel right now is uncontrollable... we tried so hard for so long yet our efforts have fallen through... and not only do we have a bond towards our boys, but we have a bond with each other. Us Silver Boy stans have also been through a lot together and when you solo stans were running around, we were getting shit done. we fight for the SB boys and we fight for each other, dont think we are going to stop now <3
#yg treasure box#ygtb#unpopular opinions#also can u just imagine the songs they'll have to sing?#theyll have to be pg because of junghwan and haruto#and im not even talking abt songs abt sex#but like more emotional and deep songs#im srsly... what the fuck#i rly wanted silver boys and then team j to debut for the japan market...#also my thoughts are quite messy as ive been crying all day so cut me some slack
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