#yes they hated RM by mid s3 for sure

[mischas]

Just rewatched the 3×15 "I want you" scene and I hate the writers so much for interrupting it. Y'all couldn’t have just let them fuck one last time? Lmaooo but seriously. This show has enough ass backwards storylines that punish Marissa so they could've let that scene happen and then have Marissa feel guilty (even more than she canonically did) because she was wildin while Johnny was dying 💀 (okay im not serious, that would've been terrible but I just wanted that scene to finish lol). No seriously, why would you go thru all the trouble of giving RM the tragic and poetic last hurrah of having Marissa "choose" Ryan after the ultimatum thingy that would directly lead to Johnny's death which in turn would lead to their breakup if you weren’t gonna give us one last poetic raunchy consummation? (Okay that was cringe but you get my point) Did they hate RM or what? What was the point of doing mid-S3 the way they did?

Rant over

Yeah dude I hear you. There was ample time in s3 to course correct and they just kept giving us everything except what we actually wanted. The scene in 314 is so good chemistry-wise, it's kind of insane just in terms of the story and the actors. Just get RM in a room uninterrupted and they'll come out of it with 80% of their issues resolved. This show is literally a never-ending 'what if' because everything gets exponentially worse.

Having Kaitlin present the Baskin Robbins metaphor in conjunction with the letter had to mean something at some point but it got dropped in favor of rebound relationships instead. The show was suffering in the ratings at the time and thought adding an element of sex would help them out. And you know how much this show loved bringing in guest stars. And it's massively insinuated that Mischa and Ben weren't getting along at this time (like I said, making the 314 chemistry... something). So production went all in on those rebounds. By this time the scripts were only written three weeks before an episode even aired, so imagine the quick turnaround this late in the game. The show was a goddamn mess by s3 and they thought removing Mischa from the equation would solve everyone's problems. And they quickly realized it didn't solve shit because she wasn't the problem after all lmao

[mischas]

Rewatch anon here: god I just got done with 3.08 and you’re SO right this is the best episode to end things for RM. it’s almost crazy how this episode ends compared to everything that came after. Really makes me think they planned out episodes 3.01-3.08 and then the rest of the season at different times and decided to totally switch directions for RM especially. Funny enough in my rewatch so far I still hate that they decided to make a whole season focused on Johnny coming between RM but...

Cont: I actually don’t hate Johnny’s character all that much yet? I’m sure I’ll be more annoyed by him when he starts falling in love with M but so far it actually does seem like he’s just genuinely a nice guy/friend who supports her/listens to her/talks to her and just overall provides emotional support R seems incapable or unwilling to give her? 😬 it’s actually surprising how I’ve been turned off by Ryan’s refusal to talk/emotionally support M but so quick to anger/violence

Ugh, yes. The thing is 3x09 is actually good for them too because they have that great talk at the end, but I prefer ending at 3x08 where Johnny hasn’t confessed his love to Marissa just yet. I’d say 3x10 is the jumping off point to ridiculousness in that season, because they seriously centered an entire Chrismukkah episode around Johnny. I just... have no words.

Johnny isn’t THAT terrible, even in the whole scheme of the season, just an annoying bug I wish I could flick off. But my big dislike of him comes from his taking up with Kaitlin all for reasons of making Marissa jealous. That’s where I draw the line, and that storyline felt like it stretched for so long. I don’t love how he blames Marissa for his accident in 3x08, like dude you’re the one who ran into the street and got hit by a car. That blame causes Marissa’s guilt to flare up and her own hero complex to compel her to take care of him. 

Of course Ryan pisses me off during that time. It’s essentially the crux of their relationship, that he can’t open up or fully let her in. The last time we ever see him do that, at least to me, is the final scene of 3x01 when he talks about Trey and his childhood. It’s one of my favorite scenes of theirs, and felt like such a point for him to let her in even more, but it’s all we get. I hate hate when Marissa calls him in 3x06 after having a nightmare and all he says is go back to sleep. That felt like a slap in the face, and I feel like we never saw her trying to talk to him again. So, even though mid-s3 pisses me off, I can’t blame her for looking elsewhere for an outlet.