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[apollosgiftofprophecy]

Warning: Rant ahead. Do not read if you wanna avoid me venting about the wider RRverse fandom & their attitude toward the TOA fans.

Seriously. This is a vent post. Stay away if you don't wanna risk getting upset. I just need a place to get it off my chest. It's been stewing in my head for long enough and I usually feel better if I write it down/type it down somewhere. Makes my chest feel less tight.

Stay safe <3

"No one is treating you guys like outcasts!"

"With your annoying POV-"

"Everyone was so OOC-"

"Meg is such a Mary Sue-"

SHUT UP

SHUT UP

SHUT UP

THIS IS WHY I STICK TO THE TOA FANDOM.

THIS IS WHY I BARELY INTERACT WITH THE LARGER PJO FANDOM.

THIS IS WHY I GET ANXIOUS ABOUT SAYING I LIKE TOA ON A DIFFERENT PLATFORM THAN TUMBLR.

BECAUSE. OF. THIS.

Recently, I have left a comment on a Youtube video. All in all, it was basically just me listing off reasons why I liked TOA and - in hindsight - naively going "idk why people don't like it".

Top Ten things said before disaster.

The next day, I got two comments.

One was along the lines of-

"Don't care."

The other was-

"Jasper broke up and Jason died - it's not canon to me!"

...

Excuse me for having an opinion, I guess.

What sucks even more is that when a fellow TOA commented to me, the second guy ALSO responded to them with "yeah but PJO and HOO are still better maybe even MCGAA to"

Like what the fuck. who does this. who has the time????

people who don't have a life, i guess.

And then. and then this same person just Keeps Going when I replied. They said "TOA's an AU" and "It relies too heavily on cameos" and then turns around and says "this would have been better if *proceeds to give a list of cameos* were with Apollo instead of Meg"

like. URGHHHHH.

They. Complain. About. Every. Single. Thing.

Even Tristan McLean going broke. And wishing "something" had been done to "fix" it.

Like fixing something of that caliber would be easy. One of TOA's things is that it deals with Reality - and I get it, some people may not like that, especially for a fantasy series - but come on. You can't expect everything to be fine and dandy 24/7 about a series of GREEK MYTHOLOGY, THE CREATOR OF TRAGEDY.

Then they went on to say they hoped that if the show gets to HOO, they "fix" its ending so TOA doesn't happen.

...BRO HOO ONLY EXISTS FOR TOA TO SHINE. RICK'S FAVORITE CHARACTER TO WRITE IS APOLLO AND THAT'S A PILL YOU NEED TO SWALLOW.

they also went on to say that TOA is "example of a story that overstayed its welcome" and i'm just. GAHHHHHHHH *screams into pillows*

"we got new characters in PJO & HOO-"

Me: *can literally name off 27 new characters from TOA from the top of my head*

Them: You need to respect other people's opinions-!

Me: SAYS THE GUY WHO INVADED MY COMMENT??? WHO LITERALLY CALLED ME ANNOYING??? WHO'S COMPLAINING ABOUT A CHILDREN'S SERIES??? AND REFUSED TO AGREE TO DISAGREE WHEN I GAVE YOU THE OPTION???

Them: There's a reason why people don't like TOA. Can you guess? Because we didn't read the book? Nope i read all 5 and the reason is it's not as good as the others-

Me: bro that's not even a solid REASON-

The condensation on that last one really pissed me off.

What was especially baffling, however, was...

Them: I am pretty sure you have hidden opinions that make you like ToA, like maybe you are LGBTQ or LGBTQ Supporter-

WHAT. DOES. MY. SEXUALITY. HAVE. TO. DO. WITH. THIS.

THAT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!

and as a matter of fact, what are they even implying here??? it just sounds like they're saying I must only like TOA because of the queer rep and I can tell you that reason is bullshit.

(I love the queer rep dw it's just not the #1 reason why i love TOA)

also here's a full list of the characters they said were 'OOC': Piper, Frank, Leo, Calypso, Hazel, & Reyna.

A few of these, I understand the confusion (but also disagree with) - but FRANK? FRANK ZHANG WAS OOC?

AT THIS POINT THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

(In another person's comment about loving TOA they also went "well there's no Percabeth in it-" OH MY GODS JUST STOP ALREADY.)

It was especially infuriating when I pointed out the hate the TOA fans in the comments experience, they replied with "Nobody's treating you like outcasts!"

TELL THAT TO EVERY TOA FAN WHO'S GOTTEN HATE!

TELL THAT TO ME WHO JUST GOT HATE FOR IT.

just. AJHGSFGH. people. some people.

I want to block them. But youtube has removed that feature (thanks a lot youtube).

I'll stick it out. I am point-blank telling them to drop it. We'll see how that goes.

just...people. Guess you still can't have an opinion, huh?

Jokes on them they merely fueled my stubborn fire. I only love TOA more now. The harder they argue, the tighter I cling.

Anyway. If you've stuck it out this far, thanks for listening. I just really needed to vent. It's been bugging me for a few days and ruining my mood every time I open up youtube.

No response is needed, btw - again, needed a place to vent.

ToA fans, you're the best <3 Love ya <3

[sleepinginmygrave]

OK SO FIRST CONGRATS ON 300!!! WOOHOOO and secondly ik this is probably a lot and don’t answer it if u can’t but can you do Lemon shark, eels & manta rays? <333 CONGRATS!!!!

HIIIII HELLO FATIMAH<3333 THZNKS!!!! here it is :]]

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⇢ ˗ˏˋ {eels}࿐ྂ here it is!! i hope you like it<3

⇢ ˗ˏˋ {manta rays}࿐ྂ I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT MY DAYYY YAY!! (i'm at church rn tho so it probably won't be long tho sorry) so i had sport we had basketball at our city' park it was really fun even tho we're shit :]] then i had history that was so boring omg hhjhjhhhhh i don't remember anything and then i had german and i really really wanted to kill some of my classmates they're so fucking loud i hate them with a burning passion there's also those two girls i HATE them really want to like smash their head against a wall yk anyway that made me angry but the rest of my day went well!!!! i had a harp class and it went so well omg i'm so so so happy i'm falling in love with playing the harp again (i was stressed for like the whole year zbt it but its starting to get better :]] ) and then i went to the bookstore omg hhjhjhhhhh it's been so longgg since i last went to the bookstore hjjhh i finally bought the third book of toa (i read the second one like 6 months ago oml) and i also bought the metamorphosis by kafka!! eeeee so so glad then i got home and hmm i did nothing special (i talked with @daydream-of-a-wallflower) anyway yeah it was a really nice day!!!!! i hope you had a nice day as well!!!! ily!!!!

[bookwormgirl123]

୨୧ intro post ୨୧

hi! You can call me Bookworm, I’m aroace, I use she/her pronouns, and-

FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

my (main) fandoms are: ୨୧ The Enola Holmes Mysteries ୨୧ Keeper of the Lost Cities ୨୧ Epic the Musical ୨୧ The Riordanverse (mainly PJO, HoO & occasionally ToA) (bit of a love/hate relationship there lol) ୨୧ Gravity Falls ୨୧ Stranger Things ୨୧ Wings of Fire ୨୧ The Chronicles of Narnia ୨୧ The Hunger Games ୨୧ Jane Austen (Northanger Abbey my beloved)

uhhhh… some other stuff about me: ୨୧ remember what I said about one of my main fandoms being The Enola Holmes Mysteries? Yeah I’m their biggest fan <3 (esp. the main character. Enola ily they could never make me hate you) ୨୧ I’m also Solinh’s #1 fan ୨୧ I’m a child of Athena or Demeter ୨୧ my tags ୨୧ my Epic the Musical high school au ୨୧ this is my original (& far inferior) intro post, if you wanna see it for whatever reason ୨୧ I’m also a minor, so no funny business!!!!!! ୨୧ I’m Canadian!!!!!!

shoutouts: ୨୧ thank you to @/wow-youre-so-pretty for drawing my pfp! ୨୧ thank you to @/telugu-girl-13 for finding me my header images (@ the top) & for giving me tips on how to make my intro post ~aesthetic~ ୨୧ divider (@ the bottom) made by @/fairytopea

dni if: ୨୧ racist ୨୧ sexist ୨୧ homophobic ୨୧ ableist

[incohorace]

bsgsgabsb yeah i mean i haven't been into pjo or hoo in YEARS and i haven't read toa but reading your takes always leaves me like 'oh holy shit they're right!!! :0 i never thought of that!' so yeah ily <3

sunshine and why <3 /p

eeee tysm! you're those for me too + bleu and soup <333333

[newathens]

the wait was worth it actually dw !! and i have some thoughts, provided you don't mind me ranting. first things first i'll admit that toa is a grey zone for me nowadays. loved the first 3 books, especially the 3rd one where you'd think it's finally getting real and serious. 4th one, um, i've shamelessly spoiled myself the ending. didn't like what i saw at all, yet i still read it out of curiosity and because ngl, i liked the 2 emperors apollo was facing as characters. caligula was the one who did the deed and made shit hit the fan with jason and all, and for a sec it looked as if we're getting a villain who's actually a threat to be taken seriously for the first time since like... luke? kronos? since pjo, basically. commodus... yeah i don't think i have to explain this one, i enjoyed his backstory with apollo and hoped to get more on that. the 4th book's ending was predictably shit, of course. kind of lost my interest there & skimmed through the 5th book when it came out just to get it over with. wasn't impressed whatsoever. and that's when my opinion on toa went from "has the potential to be pjo but better" to "everyone was right. it sucks".

however. i in fact 100% dig your theories and think them coming true could've explained the 4th book perfectly and tied all the loose ends. think about it. the emperors who seemed so powerful going down like that? plot armor for everyone but jason, the son of you-know-who who conveniently offended you-know-who beforehand? python being an absolute dogshit antagonist that barely had any presence other than "i'm a big bad snake and i'm big and i'm bad"? as of right now this is just shit writing but if zeus was the mastermind all along then it wouldn't have been. it would've went from bad writing on rick's part to bad writing on zeus' part, if this makes sense. it would've concluded the series in a befitting & memorable way that aligns with the themes we were presented with since day 1.

i know what it's like to be the tinfoil hat wearer of your fandom (i am also like that in a few fandoms unrelated to this conversation) & i admire the way you keep your agenda up despite the fact that it already ended and ended like that but like... i don't even think you're that much of a tinfoil hat wearer tbh. you're literally just right about things sorry not sorry girl. i don't wanna give RR more credit than he deserves but he can't be an absolute moron, can he? in fact i am now convinced that he did want to end things that way, like that's too many hints and clues for them to be there just because.

to throw my 2 cents in, i do think it was in fact rewritten, and with how shitty it is i'll go as far as saying that it was because the rewrite was a last minute one. either 1. he had a few endings in mind, yours & the one we have both included, and he placed the clues in there in case he decided to commit to that lane and needed something to back it up. then he for some reason went with the shittier one 2. he did write it like that originally, then his editors or publisher or whoever saw it and thought it might be offensive/too much for kids to handle and forced him to rewrite it or 3. both options combined. rick himself took a step back, decided that the ending might be a bit too much, especially considering that it was written around the time people were calling him out for all the weird shit he's written, remembered that he has the whole tv show deal coming, and thought that it's best to play it safe, even at the expense of storytelling.

who knows tho. tl;dr you've managed to convince me & i'm in love with you & i definitely think you should've written the series instead of the man. much love 🫶

you and i are telepathizing we are on the same astral plane i am giving you the biggest hug and ily too !!

[the-gayest-tree-you-ever-did-see]

alright! as someone who loves solangelo i’ve never rlly liked how they were shown in the books. okay so that doesn’t make a lot of sense, but there’s such good fanfic about them and i love their characterization. so fuck you to the person who wrote that dumbass post and I’ve been enjoying scrolling through your unkie rick hashtag tree (how are you so hilarious ily)

- indi <3

no exactly, i love their characters, i love their dynamic, i love everything about them, but i almost feel like rick threw them together last minute and used toa to tie up loose ends in their relationship. i love the general way theyre interpreted, and they mean so so much to me and to the fandom in general, and it seems like whoever wrote that didnt get it At All, so yeah, fuck them. (thank youuuu, i love you too <3)