#yeah this is for my objectum folks

[i-suggest-aro]

im aroace but i actually identify a bit with aroallos more than the folks in the aroace community because i dont feel attraction to humans in any way but im also objectum (im the person earlier who sent the ask abt romance and platonic love) and am VERY attracted to my computer, so its a bit annoying seeing either sex-negativity or platonormativity or people who just ignore that not everyone feels broken or needs platonic love or any of that stuff, and also i kinda relate to being erased because it does feel like people forget aspec isnt just aroace and ace. dating an object is more similar to not dating anyone than it is to what i imagine dating a human is like, so i doubt i would be understood in the more romance favorable parts of the community.

respect for another excluded part of the aspec, ig

uh so yeah

hell yeah, i'm also objectum! techum to be specific, the insides of technology in general is the hottest thing in the world to me.

[objectumconfessional]

Do you think it's possible to be aroace and objectum?

I've thought of myself as aroace for a while and I've had fictional crushes and recently I felt that way towards the Dynalogic Hyperion computer and I really like looking at it and I have a little folder of him on my phone and I like drawing myself with him but if I actually owned one I don't know what I'd actually do with it

I think I like the fact that it's not real

It's very much possible, yeah! There are a lot of aspec objectum folks out there, our system included. I think it makes a lot of sense to like something because it's not real, imo it can be easier to deal with attraction when you're one step removed from it.

Also that computer is so cuuute you are so real for that.

[sears-tower]

had a dream about a non-existent black and white postwar movie from japan about a guy who falls in love with a warship after reading about it in a book and then leaves his house and family on an adventure to go see the warship at the harbor it's said to be docked at. the movie ended on a closeup of his face as he sat on a lil plaza area, looking up longingly at the ship, and the scene zoomed out to show just him and a part of the ship's hull.

even in my dream i recognized there was no way it could be real, because it was way too sympathetic to the objectum guy, if it actually existed it would be a commentary on consumerist american influence on post-war japanese culture and economy. a bit of a don quixote type story where the guy is chivalrously attached to his fair lady ship and only has eyes for her. the main character himself was a nice guy and helped out a few folks in need in the middle of his adventure, but his main thing is as soon as he read about the ship is that he stopped being interested beyond a surface level in p much anything else including other people.

buuuuuut now i have an Idea for an objectum story, and finally one where the object is not meant to be animate or show reciprocal affection back. yeah the ship's a bit of a macguffin but well i suppose thats how non-animate things are.

[aroacesafeplaceforall]

Hi! I've been using the label aroace for a while but now I'm not sure I can anymore. I've never felt romantic or sexual attraction at all before until suddenly??? A few days ago??? Just realized I'm feeling (what I think is) sexual attraction to myself (or being autosexual) and romantic attraction to objects (objectum or smth like that idk.)

I still don't feel romantic or sexual attraction to any other people at all (and never have), and I really wanna keep using the term aroace bc it still feels like me, I just feel like I discovered more about myself, not "changed" or anything.

Sorry this ended up being so wordy I'm just having an existential crisis 🙃 /lh

TL;DR: Can you be autosexual and objectum while still being aroace???

Hey! Aroace is little to no sexual/romantic attraction or fluctuating levels!! So yeah you’re still aroace if you want to be!!

Obviously if you feel the label doesn’t work anymore, I’m not holding a gun to you forcing you to still call yourself aroace.

May I suggest you check the following labels in both aro and ace spectrums? Just in case something feels better for you!

Aceflux/aroflux -> fluctuating levels of attraction

Demisexual/demiromantic -> attraction only developed after emotional connection or after knowing them for a while

Greysexual/romantic -> attraction occurs infrequently and low intensity or in an ambiguous way

(The following are probably outdated and have new names)

Mollsexual -> sexual attraction weakly

But autosexual sounds like it’s right! Just vibe okay anon?

I will say that yes personally I have bias against identity that are sexually/romantically attraction to inanimate object. I won’t speak on them further, this is still a safe place for you folks but I can’t help you in that matter. It’s kind of my line in the sand.

[teruthecreator]

Karen if you haven't done her already :]]

OHHHHH KAREN MY BELOVED

Sexuality Headcanon:

BIG OL LESBIAN

Gender Headcanon:

one of those lesbians who uses the term as both a sexuality and a gender (like meeeeee except i dont think she’s butch. she Could have butch swag but it’s not my immediate thought)

A ship I have with said character:

karen/gingi is my automatic go-to bc like. shes a dateable the gingi ships are all so fuckin cute but KAREN AND GINGI ESPECIALLY. i think the fact that it takes so much for you to even Convince karen to leave work with you and how quickly she not only warms up to gingi but becomes possessive of them makes me go absolutely insane. it makes me bonkers it makes me want to ram my head into a wall. literally WHERE is the karen gingi sex scene dogman come ON THEY DESERVE TO HAVE FLOP SEX AT KARENS APARTMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh yeah i also have karen/mingus thoughts but those will be saved for a secret project i desperately need to start working on

A BROTP I have with said character:

karen and oliver are a dynamic i am super interested in! they have some like canon basis for hanging out—karen was being commissioned by oliver to make some stuff for the scare shack and the two had running text conversations, as mentioned in ch3. and i just think it’s super neat for those two! i know she can probably only handle oliver in small doses but i think the two would genuinely geek out over artsy stuff together. like if you put on an animated movie for them both they will both go on two separate tangents about two separate things but will completely understand the other. i just think theyre neat <3

A NOTP I have with said character:

once again, don’t ever think i’ve seen a karen ship that’s made me scratch my head and go HUH so i think we’re all good here!

A random headcanon:

this hc is kind of self-indulgent BUT it has basis in canon since karen is canonically an enjoyer of stopmotion AND really old christmas movies. but i think karen LOOOOOOOVES the rankin/bass set of classic holiday straight-to-tv films. she used to watch them as a kid and now as an adult she can appreciate the animation work and laugh at the stupid plotlines and just genuinely enjoy herself. she has as many of the movies catalogued at her house (primarily in digital form i think) and watches them whenever she’s bored or sad. this is a trait i think she shares with mingus (who likes rankin/bass for a COMPLETELY SEPARATE REASON that is also a self-indulgent soulread) but once again i go into this a bit more in my secret project i need to desperately start working on, so i won’t get into it here >:-) you’ll just have to wait and seeeeeee

General Opinion over said character:

my absolute beloved. god i just. i REALLY like karen. like even beyond a character standpoint i think i am just attracted to her. she has a printer for a head but she makes me swoon. literally could replay her route a million times just to watch her get possessive over me and giggle and kick my feet. it’s so bad folks. she has a fucking PRINTER FOR A HEAD AND I’M NOT OBJECTUM SO I DON’T KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED. SAVE ME KAREN FROM DIALTOWN SAVE MEEEEE

this part has genuinely made my heart flutter before there is something wrong with me

[myplushheart]

Gush pass! Feel free to gush about whomever as much as you want!

HEADCANONS AND RANTS ATTACK

layton is objectum and most often has crushes on older 1900’s items, most commonly grandfather clocks.

he’s also demisexual/romantic.

layton carries those he loves and lost with him like puzzle pieces, caring parts of them alongside him. claire’s gifted top hat and gentleman comment, randall’s love for archeology and puzzles, etc. i wonder sometimes what he would carry for maddie, but the most i can think of is her love for art or brash music.

sometimes i wonder if he feels a bit jealous or unconfident next to her because of how confident and aware she is in her own personality despite her loyalty to her friends and family while he’s lost so much of himself due to his care for others. it’s funny because maddie feels very insecure when she compares herself to him without any past knowledge about how he’s become who he is today.

layton doesn’t like the feeling of his hands being empty. it’s uncomfortable. it’s part of why he tips his hat so often.

he either had or still has a large fixation with machinery, and i headcanon that it started with cars in his youth. with his frequent enough comments about toy cars being a respectable hobby and other related mentions, i think it’s cute to imagine that he was the type of little kid to somehow take his mechanical toys or pencils apart for fun. that’s how he learned how to just put literally any heap of junk together into a helicopter or a hang glider!

he always knows how to work his way with excitable or “weird” kids and people in general. i like to stand by my statement that he was also technically a weird kid when he was smaller, so he treats the (socially considered) stranger folks with the respect he wish he got to have when he was smaller. takes one to know one, after all!

ISNT THAT ODD? I FIND THAT ODD. DOLAND, DO YOU FIND THAT ODD?

he doesn’t like coffee because it makes him rush to hints. did you know that. cause i think that’s adorable. he apparently loves puzzles but coffee makes his brain go way too fast to the point he runs to hints SO QUICKLY to get it done with. really funny tbh. do you think he’s used this method to try and cheese something sometimes like research or studying.

KATRIELLE AND ALFENDI ARENT CANON TO THE MADDIE SELFSHIP CANON BECAUSE LAYTON SHOULD NOT BE A FATHER IF HE CANT EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO AND CARE FOR FLORA!!!!!! GRGRGRGRGRGRG

i like to hc flora being eventually moreso taken care of by the triton family. please give me luke and flora siblings and flora actual parents that hang around and don’t just. Push Her Aside. i know layton might’ve left her behind in Unwound Future because in the 2nd game for Diabolical Box she literally gets kidnapped and tossed into a train cart for LITERAL HOURS ON END and layton doesn’t notice for the longest time and even then HE STILL CONTINUES THE INVESTIGATION AND LEAVES FINDING HER FOR LATER WHICH ISNT ACTUALLY VERY GENTLEMANLY IN MY OPINION, HERSHEL, but he still didn’t have to do her like that in uwf like cmon dude

he has such an insane issue about needing to research something to DEATH until he’s squeezed out all possible information he can get his hands on. this most likely began with claire because of the mysteries around her death at the time and that absolutely destroys me.

“claire is lost to me forever. i know that.” says the man who chases after the living image of his dead girlfriend TWICE from ten whole years ago at the time of unwound future, and becomes visibly a bit space-headed afterwards when he loses track of her. yeah sure man keep telling yourself that, someday we might even believe you’re mentally well! imagine that!

WHERE IS MORE CASUAL LAYTON WHEN I NEED HIM!!!!!!

i like to also hc that layton isn’t actually much of a morning person. he doesn’t like getting up early or being an early bird in general in any sense of the word. any day he’s able to sleep in a few hours longer is a happy day.

genderqueer layton has changed me for the worst. polite gentleman layton with brash lady maddie and polite lady layton with brash man mac who’s suddenly now ten times worse which is terrible for fem layton who’s now ten times shyer. they match eachother.

deer layton and fox maddie. she keeps biting on him and prodding at his antlers. help.

i cant think of anything else. look at my pretty husband, boy

[funnier-when-objectum]

Never really understood the objectum folks who are into computers until one day I was watching Papa Meat and Winslow was introduced… shamefully must admit that I think I have a crush on that strange computer (blushing and kicking my feet when I see him)

hell yeah anon welcome to objectum nation

[oneglassofwire]

On "objects cannot consent" you either have two kinds of responders from what I've seen. (I'm not disagreeing with you. Just adding onto point and also through anon-box since I only am able to be truly expressive without account showing or I'd make my own post/comment.)

Belief in object sentience like experiences. Which then doesn't make sense because they haven't communicated with every object ever and even if the one's they have wouldn't have an interest in sexual activities... Some others might. Some might know through the internet or overhearing it. And have ways to communicate that. Some might just like doing something that their pal likes and the closeness. The list goes on. This belief is taking their experiences and thinking it's universal. And a lot of the value/specialness in sex is through human societal constructs which some objects may not care about/understand to so the actions of sexuality expression isn't anything significant to them.

2. Non-belief in object sentience like experiences. Which doesn't make sense because if they don't believe in objects being more than the typical sense of "nothing" "tool and that's it", why does it matter to them? Consent matters because violations of consent can cause pain, suffering, discomfort, etc. If no harm is being caused (since due to this view, objects wouldn't experience any form pain or have any awareness of what this is... since they don't believe the pre-req belief of objects being "more than"), what's the issue then?

I feel with 1 and 2 both overvalue the importance and value and specialness of sex for EVERYONE and what it should or shouldn't be based on their own perceptions/societal perceptions imposed upon them. Certainly, there could be objects which DO care about some of these things but there are also one's which might not. A general statement like "objects cannot consent" is far too big of a generalization.

I'm also just thought expressing here. Could be parts here which could have more elaboration/things to be said about them.

Thank you for sending this in, actually! These are really good opinions and exactly what I was thinking.

A lot of the folk who try to use the “objects can’t consent” argument against objectum individuals ignore MANY points about how this is a genuine attraction, and not a fetish (no hate to people who have a kink for objects, of course.) And yeah, it’s weird and wacky to find objects attractive; it’s genuinely not hurting anyone! Ironically, in my experience, objectum people are so much more aware of consent with their object partners than a good amount of cishet people out there.

And, just as an extra bit that I was going to add to the original post but didn’t:

Dear people who say that objectum people are objectum because they can’t get a human partner: no. Nope. This is coming from a being who’s in a healthy relationship with a person.

It’s almost like there’s a bit of projection coming from these types of comments to objectum people ;)

[pangolin-404]

what's an objectum? I voted cuz I thought it was just what ya would put on a TV you're not using

(poll in question here) Ok so let me preface this by saying I myself am Very new to the concept and only recently went "hm. yeah I'm probably objectum of some flavor." and if I say anything wrong, other objectum folks are more than welcome to correct me !

An objectum person is someone who is attracted to objects, be that romantically, sexually, platonically, familially, A Secret Fifth Option, etc. In my meandering through the tag, I have seen beloved objects that are CRT monitors and PC towers, supercomputers, radios, transmission towers, buildings, mannequins and statues, handheld gaming devices, suitcases, knives, plushies, clouds, and vehicles like cars, trains, and planes! Most of what I've listed are mechanical because those are the spaces I enter most, but really anything can be the muse for these feelings, even concepts.

A concept also tied in with being objectum is being POSIC (perception of object sentience, individuality, and consciousness), and I've seen it mentioned in tandem with animism and hyperempathy, but none of these things are exclusive to each other. Not every objectum person is POSIC, not every POSIC person is objectum. I've seen people both POSIC and not say things ranging from how their object misses them, or enjoys time with them, to loving in a way not conventionally human. Defining how the beloved object "feels," I guess, is a very person-by-person experience.

I made the poll because I was curious what people who like CRT monitors have as a favorite display! Mostly intended for objectum people because that's where I see the most open affection for CRT monitors, but also anyone else, hence the (objectum) in parenthesis; it was not a requirement to vote! Does someone like setting the channel to static on a tv, or playing games with a computer, the most? that sort of thing.

Lots of people draw their beloved objects, which is why I added "faces" as an option; there are a lot of monitor object head characters with screen faces in the tag!

I hope this answered the question!! now you know what being objectum is ! and hug your local crt monitor today. they're friend shaped

[revolversz]

Oh yeah fir new folks my objectum side-blog is @pooltoyrevolver

[ladybirdplace]

There's a thought that just struck me... I have no idea if you've gone over it or ever considered it before, but have you ever considered the connections and similarities between the objectum community and autosexuals? As an auto I personally feel solidarity with objectum folks

Yeah, I think there is a lot of kinship there to be had, having a partner that people wouldn’t otherwise think of as a partner. I’m glad you feel solidarity between you and objectum people because I was honestly kind of afraid to talk about it, even if I stated it in my intro post that I’m objectum.

I’m paranoid, but people ARE particular. I’m sure there are a lot of people who think one is less weird (and thus wrong) than the other.

[radiomogai]

ok y’all know this post by @othergenic going around???? yeah Tumblr won’t let us reblog it to this blog with commentary so i’m posting our response as its own post because we did NOT type that much only for this to happen. also hi othergenic we tagged you in this so you can still see it as a response and stuff let us know if you want to be untagged

oh boy here we go

collectively, we’re figuring out what our collective identity is but we do have some things down. we’re two-spirit, and polyam, and mspec somehow, and aspec somehow. and we’re genderqueer, and a trans man, and transneutral, and likely transxenine. we’re alterhuman, being collectively catkind, and physically nonhuman with being a hybrid vampire. and we collectively use rai/rainy and petri/petrichor pronouns, and we’re pretty sure we collectively use it/its as well!!!

i, Cecil, specifically, will sum up my identity as a two-spirit horrorcosmium drakefluid xenic horror, with my orientation being a polyamorous grayasexual arospec omnisexual gay man. i’m physically nonhuman, being a cyborg errantery {errantery being tldr’d as a carnivorous shapeshifter}, a cat therian, a dragon theriomythic, deer therian, zombiekind, and i’m otherhearted. i’m an intradeity, and i have two xenidens, one focused on rot/decay/decomposition and another focused on rebirth/regrowth, though i likely also have an eye-themed xeniden that i just need to focus on a bit. i use various pronouns but most commonly it/its, deca/decay, rot/rots, 🦷/🦷s, and stygia/stygian. i’m a fictive of Cecil from Welcome To Night Vale, and my roles in my system are very important to my identity {particularly being an organizer}. when asked “who are you?” i can sum it up as “i’m a helper, i help people”

that said!!!! yeah. that’s the summary of my identity. but you said we can go into as much detail as we want so here we go folks my gender is trans, my gender is queer, my gender is largely masculine, my gender is largely xenine, my gender is related to eyes, my gender is related to gore, my gender is related to decay, my gender is deep, and complex, and multifaceted. as an organizer, it’s very important to me to label every facet and aspect of my gender, along with the rest of my identity. this results in me using a lot of different labels, some contradictory and many overlapping. i do this for the sake of my own mental ease, but also partially out of spite

my orientation is a little more nebulous. i’m polyamorous, that’s very, very important and inherent to me. i’m grayasexual, but it’s not central to my identity. i’m arospec but not entirely sure how. i label a lot of different types of attraction i feel outside of sexual and romantic, delving into things like tutelary, sensual, spiritual, queerplatonic, and all of that sort of thing. i’m attracted to men, i know that for sure. i’m not sure if i’m attracted to women, i think it may fluctuate? i’m attracted to xeninity for sure, and i believe to neutrality, and really, i, as someone inherently queer, i’m attracted to queerness. i’m objectum, conceptum, and especially soundrum as well. i’m medusan, and nonhuman-loving-nonhuman, and nonhuman-loving-human. i’m not fictosexual, but i’m a fictive largely attracted to other fictives

most of my pronouns are darker and edgier. i prefer to be called a horror rather than a man, woman, or what have you. idk what else to say about myself so i’m gonna let Jon write now since he’s staring at me

Oh, okay, I didn’t expect you to actually let me write. I’m Jon, my archival name being Jonathan, and my identity is currently in crisis. I’m questioning a lot of things, from my gender, to orientation, to presentation, to species, to pronouns. I’m largely male, with archival-related genders I believe. I currently sum up my gender as being a digiorganizeaic man. I currently sum up my orientation as being asexual biromantic, but I am certainly questioning that as well. I’m acespec and attracted to men, certainly, but I’m still figuring it out. For now, I use he/him pronouns. Like Cecil, being an organizer in the system is important to my identity.

Jack flipped me off when I tried to pass the front to eyir to type, so we’ll just leave eyir alone to mope.

The three of us (Cecil, Jack, and I) run this blog for the most part. We still need to make an introduction post or page for ourselves.