#yaminade

[kohakuhoshi]

Came up with the very odd, yet frighteningly plausible headcanon that what we think of as the demon Itsuki is actually just the painfully pretty lure of an anglersfish-esque eldritch abomination that can use those hands to drag prey into the dimension his "real" body resides in. Sensui had no chance, even without being so fucked in the head. No one escapes an interdimensional anglerfish.

[vanityxvanitas]

Hi. I suppose you're talking about yyh4ever's translation. In that case, I'll have to take their side and say that they provide the correct translation as well as the nuance/implication.

I'm not sure if you're Japanese speaker or not, but there's a certain issue with this translation. I guess this sentence is recognized by OCR, which picked up the orders of the sentences incorrectly, and even mixed Korean, Roman, and Thai words within the result: "樹 領域名"門番" み た ら 御手洗清志 ピー 次元の原をあける電力を持つ。「 撫」と呼ばれる妖怪で、妖力はB級 の下位程度だ。 あ o 할んす り高い。 その後仙水と、 ば亜空間に移動 できる能力を持 ち防御力はかな 仙水に倒されかけるが、 つきあい始める。 のうりょ ม が、 いざとなれ"

Quick Google Translate: "Itsuki Realm name: "Gatekeeper" Mitara Kiyoshi Mitarai P Possesses the power to open the source of dimension. It is a monster called ``Nade'', and its magical power is below B-class. It's very expensive. Afterwards, he begins dating Sensui, who has the ability to travel to subspace and whose defense power is low.Although Sensui nearly defeats him, he begins dating. In case of emergency"

In consideration of yyh4ever's translation: 樹 ( いつき ) “門番” (ゲートキーパー) : 次元の扉をあける能力を持つ。"闇撫"と呼ばれる 妖怪で 、 妖力はB級の下位程度 だが 、 いざとなればお亜空間に移動できる能力を持ち防御力はかなり高い。仙水に倒されかけるが 、 その後仙水と 、 つきあい始める。仙水の前にも興味を持ってつきあった人間が何人かいるらしい。 "Itsuki - “Gate Keeper���: has the ability to open a dimensional door. He is a lower B-class youkai called “Yaminade”, but can move into the subspace in an event of emergency in addition to have a quite high defense. After being almost defeated by Sensui, they started *dating. It seems he was going out with other humans before meeting Sensui.

*T/N: the verb “tsukiai” (つきあい) is generally used when you’re going out on a date with someone, but the meaning can change according to the context. For example: “to accompany somebody” without any romantic involvement. But, as we don’t have enough context here, I think the author wanted to leave their relationship open to interpretation."

I would say yyh4ever is more considerate in terms of interpretation of meaning here, and they didn't deny the possibility. Even when the 2nd sentence is be considered, it can also mean Itsuki was hanging around with someone just like how he did with Sensui, but not dating. The reason why only つきあい was considered because there's only つきあい in the 2nd sentence.

Lexically speaking, the whole つきあい始める can also have multiple nuances. As you said it, it's a slang and yyh4ever has already considered its meaning as a slang so they called it a possibility. A grammatically ambiguous conveyance like that can mean multiple things depending on the context especially within languages that can convey multiple meanings with the same vocabulary. If you want to consider つきあい始める as a 'dating' then it's fine too, if someone else reads it as つきあい (relationship) 始める (starting) then it's fine too. There's no definite meaning. I suggest the section about English meanings in this site as a good reference for different nuances of the word: https://ejje.weblio.jp/content/%E4%BB%98%E3%81%8D%E5%90%88%E3%81%86#google_vignette

Even the Japanese considers it as a nuance: https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/%E5%86%A8%E6%A8%AB-%E7%BE%A9%E5%8D%9A/product-reviews/4088737326/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

ゆうや's reply: "【2】ジャンプ本誌に掲載された企画ページ「幽遊マルヒ解体新書」の加筆修正版が掲載されています。 　冨樫本人にインタビュー形式でキャラクターごとの裏設定を聞くという企画もあり、 　掲載時期の関係もあって、特に「魔界の扉編」のキャラががっつり特集されています。 　この企画で「仙水の7人格それぞれの名前と役割」が裏設定として明かされました。 　　【追記】WJ本誌と微妙にニュアンスが違っています。 　　　　　例えば樹の説明は、WJ本誌では「仙水に倒されかけるが、その後仙水とつきあい始める。」だったのが 　　　　　霊界紳士録では「仙水の前にもつきあった人間がいたらしい。」に変更されていますし、 　　　　　御手洗の「スイミングをやめた理由」は霊界紳士録で新たに追加されたものです。"

Rough translation: "[2] An expanded and revised version of the feature page "A New Anatomy of Yuu Yuu Maruhi" that appeared in Jump magazine is now published. There was also a feature in which Togashi himself was interviewed about the backstory for each character, and due to the timing of the publication, the characters from "The Door to the Demon World Arc" were particularly featured. In this feature, "the names and roles of each of Sensui's seven personalities" were revealed as backstory. [Additional Note] There are subtle differences in nuance from the WJ magazine. For example, the description of Itsuki in WJ was "He was almost defeated by Sensui, but then he started a relationship with Sensui," but in the Reikai Genshiroku it has been changed to "It seems he had been in a relationship with someone before Sensui," and Mitarai's "reason for quitting swimming" is a new addition in the Reikai Genshiroku."

This reviewer uses the term ニュアンス here. If you read the rest of the reply, it seems like that person is a fan of the pairing, but this review in general is non-biased.

For more information, the latter sentence 「仙水の前にもつきあった人間がいたらしい。」 can be read as much less of a nuance since it just means there was someone else Itsuki involved with before Sensui, so I'll stick the the former ambiguous sentence as the maximum we have.

I have seen a certain translation from this Official Fanbook circulating around, and I would like to clear the misunderstanding. Togashi absolutely confirmed Itsuki and Sensui relationship status here.

This is the original text in Japanese:

樹 領域名"門番" み た ら 御手洗清志 ピー 次元の原をあける電力を持つ。「 撫」と呼ばれる妖怪で、妖力はB級 の下位程度だ。 あ o 할んす り高い。 その後仙水と、 ば亜空間に移動 できる能力を持 ち防御力はかな 仙水に倒されかけるが、 つきあい始める。 のうりょ ม が、 いざとなれ

Togashi used "つきあい始める" (or tsukiai hajimeru) which means "to start dating" or "to begin a relationship". Even if you don't speak Japanese, you can easily find this meaning online with a quick search, too:

Tsukiai can refer to "association" or "relationship," and it's often used in the context of romantic relationships. And hajimeru (始める) means "to start" or "to begin". When you combine them in a phrase like "つきあい始める" it conveys the idea of initiating a romantic relationship with someone. It implies that Itsuki and Sensui transitioned from a state of not being romantically involved to starting a romantic relationship. The context of the phrase Togashi added right after is also VERY important:

"のうりょ ม が、 いざとなれ" translates to "It seems he was seeing other humans before meeting Sensui." With this additional context it further suggests that the character began dating after a close encounter with Sensui and Itsuki had been involved with other people prior to meeting Sensui.

I don't know why focus on the general meaning of the verb tsukiai, when the context explicitly translates to "started dating" or "started a relationship". Also, in Japan, this is used as a popular "slang" between teens and younger folks to confirm/imply a relationship.

The entire context of the phrase and the words here are confirming their status as dating. I hope I cleared this misconception, and you can further find information about the phrase in Japanese on https://www.wagashi.org/ and https://www.japanesepod101.com/ or just search the phrase in Japanese and you will find Japanese website and forums talking about how they want to refer to their significant other or how to express they are dating someone.

I will be back with some more Itsuki and Sensui content 🤍

[yyh4ever]

YYH Official Characters Book: Togashi’s comments about Itsuki, Dr. Kamiya, Mitarai, Hagiri, Amanuma and Makihara.

Itsuki - “Gate Keeper”: has the ability to open a dimensional door. He is a lower B-class youkai called "Yaminade", but can move into the subspace in an event of emergency in addition to have a quite high defense. After being almost defeated by Sensui, they started *dating. It seems he was going out with other humans before meeting Sensui.

*T/N: the verb “tsukiai” (つきあい) is generally used when you’re going out on a date with someone, but the meaning can change according to the context. For example: “to accompany somebody” without any romantic involvement. But, as we don’t have enough context here, I think the author wanted to leave their relationship open to interpretation.

Minoru Kamiya -  “Doctor”: can make humans sick within his territory’s area using a virus created with "nen”. He also has a knifehand strike (tegatana) like a sharp scalpel. He’s an excellent surgeon but has no professional ethics. He is always dreaming of cutting people up. He was involved in an injury case that occurred during his school days, but it was handled confidentially by his father’s power, the hospital director. He still has a complex about this incident and wants to kill his father one day.

Kiyoshi Mitarai - “Seaman”: can mix his own blood with liquid to create a liquid organism. Once captured, you cannot escape unless you defeat him. He’s once drowned in water, he is good at swimming but has a fear of water somewhere in his mind. He recently stopped the swimming school after attending for five years. But the reason wasn’t the fear of water, he was disgusted with himself who sexually looked at women in swimsuits.

Kaname Hagiri - “Sniper”: has the ability to use his energy to manifest targets on an opponents' body and to imprint his energy into projectiles that will never miss the targets. At the age of 16, he was attending a private high school. His father was a police officer but died in service two years ago. Contrary to his public face of an exemplary policeman, Hagiri feared and looked down on his father who was a vicious drinker at home. His future dream is to be a lawyer or a criminal.

Tsukihito Amanuma - “Game Master”: can bring video games to life and make the opponent a character in the game. He’s an only child whose parents both work. He’s a daydreamer and has great confidence in himself. He often goes to convenience stores, arcades and baseball fields near his house. "If you have a TV and a game, even if the world is ruined it’s not  a big deal," he says, but in fact he is lonely person.

Sadao Makihara - “Gourmet”: swallows other people’s bodies completely, making their abilities his own. His hobby, as the name suggests, is eating. He was clumsy and sluggish and was called by the nicknamed "ox" in high school. He’s not the type that makes an effort, but always wanted “to be good at sports, become strong and improve his grades.” These desires combined with his hobby and the incident of the Demon World’s tunnel, awakened his  "gourmet" ability.

Sources: Yu Yu Hakusho Official Characters Book Reikai Shinshiroku, pp.192-193 (2005) & Weekly Shounen JUMP 3-4 (1994) by @sinnasuk3.

仙水 サイド: 仙水の野望のコマとなる、6人の能力者たち! 中でも、樹はの仙水の片腕として手をかす妖怪なのだ!!

樹 ( いつき ) “門番” (ゲートキーパー) : 次元の扉をあける能力を持つ。"闇撫"と呼ばれる 妖怪で 、 妖力はB級の下位程度 だが 、 いざとなればお亜空間に移動できる能力を持ち防御力はかなり高い。仙水に倒されかけるが 、 その後仙水と 、 つきあい始める。仙水の前にも興味を持ってつきあった人間が何人かいるらしい。

神谷実（かみや みのる）“医師” (ドクター): 念で作ったウイルスで領域内の人間を病気にする。又、鋭いメスのように手刀を持っている。優れた外科医だが 、 職業的倫理はない。いつも人を切り刻む夢を見ている。学生時代に起こした傷害事���が病院長の父の力で内密に処理された事がコンプレックスとなり、いつか父を殺しってやり たいと思っている 。

学生時代に傷害事件を起こしているが 、病院長をしている父親の力で内密に処理されている。今でもこの事がコンプレックスとなっていて、いつか父親を殺しってやりたいと思っている。

御手洗清志（みたらい きよし） “水兵”（シーマン) : 自らの血液を液体に混ぜ, 液体生物を作り 出すことができる。この中に取り込まれると, 彼を倒さない限り脱出できない。昔、水で溺れたことがある彼は、泳ぎは得意だが心のどこかに水に対する恐怖心がある。五年通っていたスイミングスクールも最近やめた。しかし理由は水への恐怖心ではなく、水着の女性を性的に見てしまう自分がいやになったからだ。　

刃霧要（はぎり かなめ） “狙撃手”（スナイパー): 自らの気を的に変え敵の肉体にしるし、気を込り送んだ物質を確実に命中させる。私立高校に通う16歳で、父親は警官だったが2年前に殉職。模範的な警官という表の顔とは逆に 、 家では酒乱だった父を彼は恐れ、軽蔑もしていた。そんな彼の将来の夢は弁護士か犯罪者。

天沼 月人 (あまぬまつきひと)  “遊熟者” (ゲームマスター): ゲームを現実化し、相手をゲームの登場人物にすることができる。一人っ子で両親は共働き。空想家で自信家。よくいく場所はコンビニ・ゲームセンター・家の近くの野球場。「TVとゲームさえあれば、世界が破滅しても別にいい」と言う彼だが、実はさびしがり屋なのだ。

巻原 定男（まきはらさだお） “美食家”（グルメ): 相手の身体をまるのみして、その能力を自分のものとしてしまう。領域名通り、食うのが趣味。不器用で動きが鈍く、高校時代は「ウシ」というあだ名で呼ばれていた。努力をするようなタイプではなく、常日頃から「楽してスポーツがうまくなりたい」「強くなりたい」「成績を上げたい」と思っている。その事と趣味が相まって、魔界の扉の事件では“美食家”の能力が覚醒する事となった。

出典: 公式キャラクターズブック 霊界紳士録 (2005年) & 週刊少年ジャンプ1994年3·4号

[tarzanman]

yuyuhakusho sensui x itsuki doodle

[kohakuhoshi-creative]

an illustration for @bizarrolord 's start-of-darkness Sensui x Itsuki fic. If you look closely you can see Shinobu distressed and disassociating.

[fireyfobbitmedicine]

Do you know that one anime same sex couple

Like one has long teal hair

And would choose their beloved over the world

And the other one who is highly masculine

With a bit of a feminine side

And is powerful enough to make the earth shake

[pastelldevil]

i was talking to @yaminade-no-zoi earlier about robots and tried to say 'thundercracker' and 'decepticon' at the same time and it came out as 'decepticracker' and tbh i'm still not over it

[gingerman-sk]

YUYUHAKUSHO yaminade -Yoshihiro Togashi

[yaminade-no-zoi]

When life gives you Rochu…

:T Hate it until your friend slowly gets you to love it.

Nyo!Russia: @yaminade-no-zoi Nyo!China: @kowai-lyndere

[pastelldevil]

@yaminade-no-zoi TELL ME THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MASHA

““Tiny man grab Elizavæta’s butt. Elizavæta break tiny man arm. He not grab butts anymore, but Elizavæta is not allow in bar again.””

— Our orc fighter, who has a very thick, Russian-sounding accent, explaining why she’s banned from a bar to the rest of the (very amused/slightly scared) party.

[nihonongaku-blog]

[kaoruzou-blog]

Merry's Gara, by Hayakawa Tomoko ( Yamato Nadeshiko Shichi Henge) <3

[b-d-m-blog]

闇撫 - expel an "ENEMY"

[tarzanman]

YuYuHakusho Sensui Shinobu & itsuki

[cruelscardan]