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aliusfrater · 1 day ago

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re nick's post + his tags + my tags. i feel like although the parentification was definitely on dean especially re taking care of sam but there's a level of... mental abuse in the dynamics of his arguments with sam as well as how he treated leaving sam alone while he and dean hunted regarding the fact that sam and dean are his sons/children until john's actions become abuse. and dean definitely adopted/emulated/acted on behalf of it; suddenly sam was the one responsible for tacking the family back together despite john kicking him out or to dean, sam and john's arguing was also suddenly sam's responsibility to stop or end or upkeep a level of respect within despite the parent-child dynamic. this also feeds over into sam's guilt and forgiveness and faith complexes and it's also how the dynamic of sam choosing the winchester familial dynamic over anything else works. basic john-sam enjoyer lore, sure, but what's particularly interesting to me is that it's kind of similar to the way the sam vs sammy dichotomy works. sam is john's son that's infantilised and needs to be protected Until someone raises their voice vs sammy is dean's little brother that's infantalised and needs to be protected Until sam encroaches upon him

#i didn't want to add this to my tags because this isn't discussing physical abuse #i had more to say but i got distracted and forgot :/ whatever #edit: okay i remembered #i bet sam began to find his arguments with john to be legitimately cathartic outlet for his own Person #outside of the infantilised role both john and dean attributed him to #so much so that it became part of his role. it became such a Thing that sam and john argued #that even dean became jealous of that kind of communication between them. nick also said this recently #but dean legitimately thought/alluded to thinking that sam should've been grateful for that closeness with john #regardless of what the closeness Was #there must have been enough of a legitimacy to it for sam to subscribe to thinking of their arguments that way #within the span of a single episode and i think that legitimacy comes from the idea that #sam probably found the arguments to be expressive of his own self #i think about‚ “you were just pissed you couldn't control me anymore‚” all the time because it's SO on the nose #nothing else about their relationship is That on the nose. it's all usually clothed in sam's struggle between wanting to get away from john #vs his love for john and it came up during an argument. it stripped everything bare and clean #referat

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