#with jinxie and rayfa etc
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phoenix and edgeworth are the only “normal” characters in ace attorney and i use that definition extremely loosely. this isn’t a lawyer game this is a ghost hunter game. this is some scooby doo shit. everybody phoenix meets is a fucking horror game character. maya and pearls can channel the dead, morgan fey is shit-your-pants terrifying, mia, misty, iris, dahlia, all of them have some creepy shit or other going on, i won’t even get started on dahlia’s insane spirit needing to be exorcised, and after surviving all that, phoenix gets a daughter with esp and he has to contend with the gramaryes who have supernatural powers and are mysterious as fuck, and a kid whose eyes glow red when he perceives you. top that off with a visit from the devil himself, kristoph with the fuckin skull on his hand and the mystical levitation powers we don’t know what they are, THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY GHOSTS AND DEMONS AND SHIT IN ACE ATTORNEY AND TBH I LOVE IT. and phoenix’s only defense is a magical green rock he holds it up against them all like a cross and screams “THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU”
#ace attorney#like everyone phoenix meets is a little bit fucked up#but its just. an everyday normal world except some people have superpowers#and its just never discussed#and i do feel like the supernatural elements continue in aa5 and aa6#with jinxie and rayfa etc#but its a LOT less focused on
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finished the apollo trilogy, thoughts below
first thing i have to say is the lack of women in this trilogy was to be expected considering how good the og trilogy was on this aspect. not only that but they were vital to the overarching plot (there is no plot without the feys) and there were many interesting women on the diff cases (dee vasquez, adrian and mimi come to mind) also obligated to mention oldbag because she's my favorite witness in pwaa you also had flop girl rep of women over 60. anyways this was all to say it was still really disappointing because whenever they had a woman they could develop more they'd almost forget about her in the next game because of the "no spoiler rule" or whatever. they had something going with trucy in aa4 but then they forgot about her until 6-2 and got her reduced to magic panties outside of that one case. they got athena to lead a single case in her debut game and then only a super trial only one in aa6. snarky emma was cool but forensics aside i feel like she did not have much going on? compared to gumshoe for example, even bobby turned out being plot important you know? they had lamiroir but then they forgot about her until the VERY end of aa6, only to not even say her name. when it comes to witnesses etc alita and aura were the best ones, they had juniper appear in three cases and be said to be athena's best friend but she wasn't even mentioned in aa6? at least jinxie sent trucy flowers in 6-2. rayfa was easily the best character of the khura'in storyline and even she felt not done well so what gives.
i'm soooooo mad of how dirty athena was done fr like now i get why everyone thinks she deserves her own trilogy (just make it 2d please. that's all i'm asking for). by far my favorite character from the trilogy, i cannot forgive how they treated her like a child during 6-4???? from nahyuta it was expected but it disappointed me from blackquill because i didn't read it as "banter" or something of the sorts...also her theme songs rock‼️‼️‼️
whatever they were doing with apollo's backstory is hilarious really....born to a magician who then hooked up with a musician. almost burned to dead in a fire that killed his dad and then became a rebel's foster son. then moved to the states and became friends with an astronaut and a kid who wanted to become one. became a lawyer at a guy's firm whose adopted daughter is his half sister. meets his mom ALONG said girl except she lost her memories so she doesn't know who she is and never does once she regains them. his friend became an astronaut friend but died so he becomes the og astronaut's lawyer in his murder case. also his rebel lawyer foster dad had a son who then became a prosecutor. meanwhile phoenix's lore could be summarized by saying he got accused of stealing once when he was 9 and then framed for murder when he was 21. anyways why was it all so complex. not like they ever mentioned anything said in a past game about him in the subsequent ones. they just needed something for the sake of plot i guess????
siblingisms were not hitting this time around.....i looove sibling relationships in media (succession my beloved, kny's redeeming trait) so the bad writing regarding them here made me soooo mad.....trucy and apollo was only a thing in aa4, klavier and kristoph barely ever interacted???? and we don't know anything about them on that regard, nahyuta and apollo was a thing i guess, gar'an and amara were giving morgan and misty fey without the panache or the anything, nahyuta and rayfa was only revealed at the end and they never interacted anyways, etc. aura taking hostages for the sake of blackquill was peak siblingisms though, but after all the cool siblings we had in pwaa this was lame as hell
the dlc case of aa5 was easily my fav of the trilogy like it really had it all (phoenix as protag athens as co counsel pearly cameo blackquill aka my fav aj prosecutor funny as hell defendant good side characters good culprit good ending the dissin of phoenix wright etc etc etc) second would be 5-3 but aristotle means was suchhhh a lame culprit and admittedly the idea behind the school was goofy as hell (danganronpa moment i guess)
funnily enough aa5 was my favorite because it had the 2 cases i liked most + had athena + blackquill + feenie outfit <3 still lame though
girl why was 6-5 so long. i'll admit here i couldn't play past aa4 because my game wasn't working so i watched gameplays of the subsequent two games but even in story mode it was 14 hours long??????? what?????? it dragged on for so long it wasn't funny!!!!!
edgeworth being important in all the games was sooooooooooooooo. love the glasses and i appreciate the pandering to the fans (the dlc case of aa6 was this but it still sucked. anyways) but considering the "no spoiler rule" they had going the entire trilogy i suppose showing us edgey as phoenix (and larry's) friend is okay??? as if it didn't take him a very long while to get on friendly terms with phoenix. egregious when they didn't even have klavier in aa6 and they don't ever dare mentioning kristoph, whose role is a "spoiler" from the very first case of the apollo trilogy anyways.
i feel like the games were lacking on good culprits? there's some exceptions to this (alita my love, kristoph's insane plans, i respect retinz's and nichody's hustle, marlon even if he isn't a "real" culprit) but the rest were pretty lame??? i will give it to l'belle that his plan was super batshit + i love his theme song. also note that the only final culprit i mentioned was kristoph because the other two aren't even worth mentioning which is super disappointing when in pwaa mvk engarde and dahlia were the best ones easily (and after playing the aj trilogy i still consider them so)
idk how they are for the japanese version but the puns for this trilogy felt too on the nose? i remember the name eldoon making me physically angry though that was the only really bad one in aa4. starting in aa5 and ESPECIALLY the khura'inese names the puns were making me want to die really. why were the royals + dhurke + nahyuta the only ones without punny names from what i could tell too 😭
i had read about how the games have such huge stakes (an international spy is among us! we need to dethrone this country's monarch!) that it got hard to be interested in what was happening and honestly yeah.....the most powerful person was easily redd white but it was effective because you weren't fighting "for the greater good" but rather for solving your mentor's murder and helping her sister (and later yourself). even in bridge to the turnabout the stakes are kept pretty small as the plot is about the feys (and godot), all characters we should care about by now. it was weird in aa5 because you were competing against an international spy but even then at least the final case was still mainly about athena and blackquill? it was ridiculous in aa6 though because all of a sudden your enemy was the evil queen of the country you were in and failing to defeat her meant she would continue staying in power and whatever......what happened with helping your boy best friend because he got framed by his evil mentor💔
why'd they have to mention the us so much in aa6...like at first it was implied at most they were in the usa (japanifornia slay) but i think it should have stayed as just that, something about them all canonically living in los angeles is weird as hell
music didn't feel as epic for the courtroom segments (few exceptions though) and some character songs were good but overall the music didn't really catch my attention. i'll look for the soundtrack on youtube soon though so i can resisten it on its own but it doesn't take from the fact that was my original impression)
if you got this far in and you're asking yourself "is kiara being a hater" the answer is 1. why did it take you so long to figure that out and 2. yeas❤️
verdict: give me a 2d athena trilogy or i kms. also i never want to read the word panties again
#this will have to be kept in the tags because i exceeded the character limit in the post#in 6-5 we find out gar'an has no spiritual energy and that is why she has no legitimate claim to the clone#so how can it be that she channeled dhurke when she killed inga? or are we supposed to believe she dressed as him to do the deed?#also in 6-6 for the pegacow-pegabull thing they shit on larry for supposedly not realising there were two bulls in the#reception. however all he did was read a notice made by ellen. so does that mean she wanted 2 pegabulls in the reception?#or was she the one who mixed them both up?#my post
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