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michi-chelle-draws · 1 year ago
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thinking about my guilty pleasure trio again 👉🏼👈🏼
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yeoldontknow · 4 years ago
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Hi! Can I ask question about the movie Paris Texas? I am not sure if youre the right personbut i have always wondered why it is so highly revered. Like I liked the movie, i thought it was good. i could feel the longing the characters are going through, i liked how it was shot(?),i can see why the 'booth' scenes are always replicated in music vids & other shows & stuffBut idk what makes it iconic- like everytime i listen to people talk about films, they bring that movie up.
my favorite actors and directors for around the world even mention that filmLike i enjoyed it and know its good, but i am not sure on what makes it great. what are your thoughts on this film?
ahh hello! lmao im so happy people are asking me to talk about film lmao this really does excite me. and im so glad you came to me with this! just in general! thank you!
trust me like...i get it. paris texas is a great film, and i did enjoy watching it, but i see where you come from. i can understand why its been so revered, so hopefully i can shed some light on that for you. but! i really do understand where you come from. if im honest, theres a lot of flaws and issues with the film. its slow, doesnt actually handle the heavy themes the script attempts to portray very well, and doesnt really actually offer any nuance to janes character. shes actually a really complex character, but shes boxed into the role of like...the manic pixie dream girl, except not that. shes not and ideology of freedom or growth or perfection the way that trope is usually portrayed. instead she exists to further a male centric narrative and the depiction of women is really shallow, so trust me i get why there is a dissenting opinion. 
that said, there are a lot of things that make the film as cult and important as its become among cinephiles. they range from the use of americana as a plot device, colour theory, voyeurism, the breakdown of the american dream, etc. ill be breaking down some of the major points here under the cut, but there are even more ways to read this. and!! i stress!! it is ok to read all of this and still disagree! thats the beauty of film studies.
to really understand fundamentally why this film is so important we need to focus on two intertwining notions - that the film is a portrayal of america and this portrayal of a america is coming from a foreigner. the director of the film is win wenders, a german filmmaker, who has always claimed to be fascinated by the history and character of america. effectively, america itself becomes a character within the film. it does not matter that ‘america’ is the backdrop - it plays such an integral role in shaping the narrative of the story, one could argue it has more autonomy than jane. take for example the opening scene - it opens with the scene of a man walking aimlessly through the desert with a gallon of water - nameless and aimless. from this very first moment, we are presented with land. an endless expanses of land in which there is no real ownership; from this moment, we are meant to understand this america shapes the lives of its people as much as this perspective on america is shaped by the director of the film. 
furthermore, if we consider the opening shot; the saloon; the fact that a full 26 minutes elapses before the main character says a single word, we can argue the mise en scene within each of these scenes a visual alignment to the classic genre of western cinema. here, too, in this genre is the stress on land as it relates to and symbolizes the importance of freedom, autonomy, and identity, but moreover is there a stress on the notion of the anti-hero. by cultivating this understanding of america and the western, we can immediately align travis with the failed man, the failed husband, a failed owner of land, and a failed dream. 
but...did he fail? or did the notion of americana and the american dream fail him, instead? this seems to be the case as we considered the continual use of americana references. one of the fundamental aspects of americana is the nature of nostalgia - americana is traditionally idealized as the desire to return to small towns and cities from the turn of the century. the hope of creating a home, only for that essence of home to be lost; the period of exploration from 1820 to 1880, and then the comfort of being settled from 1880 to WWII. these are the fundamental aspects to understanding americana but they are foundational in the nostalgia that drives the narrative. aspects like: a barber shop, a diner, route-66, etc these small town notions are the driving pieces of nostalgia. and these are the elements of nostalgia that generate the plot device of paris texas.
im taking a moment here to really stress the following: western films and the concept of americana is inherently problematic. it exists on wester colonization, appropriation, and genocide. americana is a white-washed version of history and that, explicitly, is why all the elements of americana, nostalgia, and the american dream fail within this film because, again, it is america from the perspective of a foreigner and the perspective is profoundly unforgiving. 
(also, like, i literally hate western films because they are so racist and sexist and hyper-masculine, from any historical or modern perspective, so again...me being me saying i understand why you might have had a hard time with this movie lmao but when you realize this is not speaking in favor of those things it kind of hits you like...oh, damn. like, imagine this film from the perspective of a white american male, you know? travis would be a king, someone admired rather than someone youre not even sure you like or tolerate by the end)
right! so! now that we understand how important the elements of a failed america and american dream are to this film, we can see how nostalgia continually presents itself - not for a home lost, but for the hope and the opportunity lost. consider: the colour, the wide, open expanses of land (could have been owned, but are entirely empty), the way characters gaze at their own reflections - hell, the conversation between jane and travis at the end, double sided mirrors, jane forced to look at herself in the mirror while travis looks at nothing because its his memories and his memories are presented at a visual and emotional distance. memory presents itself through illusions, reflections, and disorganized narrative structures - it is not that they cant remember, but that they want to remember without criticism. this comes to a head when they view the home movies, another example of how life was or could have been - how it was supposed to be, and the sudden confrontation that it very much is not that. 
primarily for me, the thing that makes me enjoy the film (apart from realizing wenders has an extremely unforgiving view of america) was the colour theory. you cannot talk about this film without discussing the colour. the predominant tones in the film are red, white, and blue - americana and american flag. but why all the green (i.e the doctors office)? why the isolated events of solid red (i.e the strip club)? well, green and red are put perpetually at odds with one another. green, a usually soothing colour, is subverted to denote internal conflict; red, becomes regret, falsehoods. the colours in the film exist to at a sub-textual layer that speaks for the characters when they refuse to speak for themselves. and by the end, the colours return to a normal palette. black, beige, tan - travis recounting their history to jane in a room that is natural. things are finally exactly as they are meant to be, the intense colours of their emotions faded by distance and time, and forced now to confront their truth. 
but still...the elements of voyuerism exist. because he can see her...if he chose to. she cannot see him. she can only see herself. and so we are left, then, understanding that there is no hope. no connection. the achievement of the american dream is a falsehood of nostalgia that exists to drive our motivations, forcing us to live in a time or a place or a hope that never once was tangible, but craved just the same.
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elizabethrobertajones · 8 years ago
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Ketch is literally going to try and kill Dean just for saying that about his bike. 
I know he seems deep and interesting and complicated to some people but that’s the facts.
In slightly unrelated news it turns out I have had this entire season sussed out since the day Robbie Thompson announced he was leaving and I cry-watched 8x13 while eating ice cream and realised Sam’s furniture-related hubris from 11x17 was going to get him one day because it had been a theme since they first met the MoL ever, but this is all escalating exactly as I have foreseen and it’s coming down to the most petty motivations you can imagine.
I’m as surprised as you are when I’m actually right when I make shitty jokes and predict an entire season a year in advance. :D
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I actually have nowhere else to be today so I woke up early, watched Elementary while I waited for coffee to kick in and now here I am while it's still morning :D
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Recappy all the BMoL stuff with a focus on Mom sleeping with Ketch, followed by our one sympathetic guy getting murdered by Ketch, and Umbridge pointing out the Winchesters suck to a clip of Dean wandering around with Lucille in the Bunker (listen I thought the whole thing was going to fall on Sam after years of him ripping up the wiring to install mini fridges and TVs, and putting his feet on the chairs, but nope at the last minute they shoehorn in a bloodsoaked Dean disrespecting the furniture which I'm taking a bitter Sam!girl stance on for no reason other than it makes me laugh that Dean yanked this one from under his nose)... Last thing we hear is that Ketch is going to come for them, and onto the cold open. Considering this is at least SUPPOSED to be a monster of the week (and I'm terrified of it) I'm like... deeply unappreciative of the total lack of warning.
I have a blanket though.
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Idk if it was because the promo clip I saw (I think I may have missed one by noping out of this episode's promo stuff and going to bed last night because I don't remember a Dabb one) being the one with the Game of Thrones aliases but the kid Sam and Dean interview reminded me of Jon Snow... He looks even more like him in the dark wearing a coat with a fuzzy hood and it's making me laugh. He's not exactly a Jon Snow type personality though - like all we know of him right now is he likes watching his friends make out because he's kinda gross.
(I can never tell if scenes like this are What The Writer Thinks Kids These Days Do or What The Writer Did When He Was Kids These Days... I suppose either is revealing >.>)
Anyway hat buddy slaps Jon Snow on the shoulder and leaves him to it and I really can't make character parallels off this little info but I think hat buddy is wearing a red hat of the same style of plaid that both Sam and Dean have been wearing this season? It's dark though.
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Oh good creepy goat mask guy/actual monster is watching
is that an axe or a hammer?
*retreats under my blanket*
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that backpack is literally like an anglerfish lure, with the glowstick attached to it
oh yay it's full of money. You beat the trap, and the goat guy, you get a buttload of cash.
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Monsters don't tend to use complicated traps though :P
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I really really don't like the goat guy. Nope. Noooope. *adds a nope for every dramatic shot of him*
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Anyway the first thing we hear is Cas's voice mail, with "THE MEMORY REMAINS" captioning it, so I've got emotional whiplash. Trauma from the goat guy to achey soul pains from Dean trying to get ahold of Cas still, wandering the halls of the Bunker and being miserable.
I mean he's *wandering the bunker* levels of miserable.
I could only find a bad download but I have a feeling Sam's pitying look when he hears the tail end of this where Dean is being all worried about Cas is possibly worse.
Oh NO Dean's been LOOKING for him. Including a standard "has any weirdo in a trench coat been arrested" google search which honestly I feel like should probably get more hits than Dean wants to deal with even if none of them are Cas :P
He's cleaning guns now, including reminding us of all the ancient MoL guns stashed under the table, which really makes me think about how the Bunker is possibly in danger because the BMoL have as many keys to it as they like and Sam and Dean don't know they're about to be hunted by Ketch, who really only needs to do a kill 'em in their sleep thing if he doesn't feel like making a grand entrance and villain monologuing at them. I mean it won't be good TV which is literally my only reassurance he won't do that, or at least they'll have a tip off and Bela him if he tries it (why are they always being nearly assassinated by Brits)... Anyway, the reminder that those guns show they are prepared to be attacked in their own home - but are they READY to be attacked in their own home? Dean cleaning the guns suggests maybe?
I still think this literally all goes back to Sam's hubris about 8x13 where we cut between them finding the Bunker for the very first time and Dean returning after a week of supply runs to Kevin and crap, walks in, and Sam's installed a mini fridge in the library already. Later Sam rolls his eyes at Dean wanting to get a pool table or whatever it was he told Cas in 8x22 but you started it Sam. (The next episode I watch with my mum will be 9x04, aka Sam is bored and stir crazy because Dean is keeping him in the Bunker, so he dives under the map table, and rips up several miles of wiring just to see where it goes.)
(11x23 was like... not that I'd been *waiting* for it per say but when Toni showed up and shot Sam and we'd recently seen Sam lounging with his feet on the furniture... I knew it was his own bloody fault he got shot and that moment earlier in season 11 had prepared me for it :P)
Anyway that sense of threat is coming back. We know there's SOMETHING they filmed right towards the end of the season with Dean wandering the Bunker with a gun in hand, so I am feeling like it's time to explore every scrap they give us about the sense of unease the BMoL give them about their own home, whether it's for us to know or them to feel.
Not sure Sam's got it even though Toni SHOT him here already, but Dean, at least, is cleaning the defensive weapons stashed under the tables and that makes me feel like he's at least HALF aware of it, and of course this season he is being shown rather more on the ball about stuff...
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(This is what happens when you combine giving me the entire day to watch and a creepy goat mask guy I don't wanna see again - 15 minute free form essay on the Bunker vs Sam)
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"He'll be fine. He always is."
Dean is like... yeah.
The other times he's dropped off the map include, not exhaustively
* being in the middle of an angelic civil war while working with Crowley * being mind-controlled by Naomi and eventually smashing Dean's face in * being possessed by Lucifer
So you can see why Dean's "yeah" is a wee bit unconvinced :P
Sam taps nervously on the table. Why do I always have to reassure Dean when I'm worried about Cas too? Do I even believe anything I'm saying or am I just saying it because that's what you do when Dean's worried about Cas?
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Sam goes through all the books on demons. "It turns out we have a lot of books on demons"
Dean, who spent all of season 9, 10 and 11 reading every single book on demons to find info on Knights of Hell, the Mark of Cain, and how to get Lucifer out of your boyfriend, doesn't even look up from cleaning the guns.
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Sam's emaaaail. Sadly I have a very low def download so I put in a request for more information which is my new way of saying good morning on new episode day:
elizabethrobertajones MITTENS I MUST READ THE WINCHESTER'S EMAIL I am pretty sure I can read some of it but I have a very very low def download but I'm pretty sure we have like 8 different stories underneath the one from "Mick" :P I can read "Dean: click this link!" (I think) which suggests Dean is perpetually sending Sam screamers or weird shit, Dean again which I think he used the email title line to say "You owe me for the gas I paid for last week"? then 2 Biggerson's emails including a monthly newsletter... are they keeping an eye because so much weird shit happens there, or have they been unwittingly signed up ever since they were the millionth customers and this is the long form version of the luck going bad? A life time of being plagued by it Sam has flagged this email he also flagged one which seems to say "Impala Owner's [something]" which says "I think I might have the part you're looking for" maybe he has to forward that to Dean And then Dean, "this is not a case IMO", Dean, "Professional Eating Contest videos" which I cackled at and Dean, flagged again, "question about that [something] research you were talking about"? I want to know more about everything but especially Biggerson's :P
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Anyway insert fake shock about the case from Mick showing up from beyond the grave
[image of the anglerfish backpack]
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Dean is having so much fun waving the Colt around and sighting down it and now fake-shooting it... I love how it seems to show him shooting forwards and then we go to Ketch checking HIS email (or... Mick's email) - Dean shooting Ketch? He's having so much fun with the Colt I am starting to feel like the narrative is going to have to sadly pat him on the head and take the gun away from him and let someone else deal with it.
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NYOOOOOM *scrreeech* NYOOoooom
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Straight to a sheriff with an interest in doing taxidermy at his desk, and Sam and Dean giving him at least 10ft berth, to suggest the proverbial pole has been deployed. Honestly is this commentary on how J2 hate the taxidermy stuff fans sometimes show them? Maybe 9x05 wasn't subtle enough about how it skeeves them out. Dean especially is hanging right the hell back, and I think 9x05 managed to establish it genuinely freaks him out.
Of course if it's a taxidermy goat head and the monster is a mask we're looking right at our guy. And he's got the big spooky eye through his magnifying glass... This episode is kind of dark and dusty and I love how it looks already. Somehow it just seems grimy from the like, 4 scenes I've seen.
If it is a guy in a mask, then Plush and Thinman are the episodes with overlap thematically. Promo stuff also suggested it might be a god, which the ritual pattern of disappearances going back a LONG time suggest. The 20 year gap, on the other hand, suggests to me a sort of legacy of being the goatman, and a child has taken up the super creepy mantle.
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The makeout spot is called Weathertop so that's a Lord of the Rings reference, and an oblique sideways reference to Stranger Things, where the kids called the forest Mirkwood. Got a bearded sheriff dude in I think similar colours, although obviously he's super creepy with the taxidermy and so not sympathetic like our sheriff from that show.
Also 9x05 had the Joffrey Rat, which finishes the loop between all these references.
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Oh boy, throw in The Chitters with the townsfolk apparently not caring about the disappearances, and having a good rationalisation for why the kid would have run away instead of being snatched. Of course if this guy is the goat man or helping him, then it gets a bit more complicated about why does it, not that it wasn't complicated in 11x19.
The kid was getting beaten by his dad, which is also pretty grim for telling us about bad parenting, which, of course, is a theme of the season just because Mary, and I guess Mary has all that coming for the long belated conversation about what her deal actually DID to their lives, explained in frank terms in the way you HAVE to have it on screen eventually even if you put it off all season in fear of what happens when you tell her the truth about how you were raised/raised yourself.
"Trying to take a kid from its parents, even if they're the worst people in the world... it's not easy."
(The only time we see kid Sam or Dean NOT under John's influence even when they're always alone when we see them, is 9x07 where Dean is purposefully ABANDONED and left to rot by John, and now I name-checked all the season 9 episodes in a row except 9x06 in that block of MotW, if we assume 9x08 has at least a tangential relevance if it IS a god :P)
Goes on to describe how Jarrod had to then spoonfeed his father after he became ill, and basically give HIM the duty of care that his father failed to give HIM, aka a really really blatant example of swapping the child/parent dynamic around, which shows the horrible duty of it all. And if you say this show isn't about the whole parental duty thing getting messed up and given to the wrong people, I'd say you never met Dean. :P In this case, Mary has basically been accused of running off and leaving her kids to look after themselves, or look after her messes in the case of the 12x12 hunt which became the focus of the argument ("Cas nearly died"!!) - basically in a way Mary parallels to Jarrod although of course Sam and Dean aren't exactly abusing her, just that they're the family she escaped, because there was a burden there she didn't want to deal with, and Dean saying he wanted her to be their Mom... Obviously I am analysing this sort of on the level of what I think the narrative has constructed about how they irrationally FEEL about it, not what I actually think the dynamic is or who deserves this sort of condemnation... Of course the parallel of the beaten kid and the father suddenly swapping around to be the burden on them works with Sam and Dean's entire childhood, and now the problem of how they relate to Mary, that she's now someone else for them to WORRY about and not fulfilling the "Mom" sort of role they might have expected.
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Anyway final comedic beat to end it on like the sheriff has been happily making the taxidermied weasel thingy without really concerning himself too deeply on this problem. Sam and Dean kind of recoil, Dean somehow standing even further away than he was before while still standing in the same place.
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Blah blah Dean and drugs subtext, probably talked over after this promo scene came out - "medicinal purposes" - also showing they're the cool feds who turn a blind eye, you know, if you give us the info we want.
But also of course, if Sam "oregano" Winchester did this exact same thing it would be a joke (hey, 11x19 again) while Dean doing it is like, duh of course Dean is chill with the stoner and has a wink wink moment about why you smoke, because he's ALWAYS been chill with the stoner characters for ~some reason~.
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The factory he seems to work at has big crossed axe signs, I guess because of the tomahawk thing. It looked more like a hammer that the monster had? If it is a monster?
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Dean is distracted in an OTT way by the waitress at the diner. The fact I have written like 15k so far of a not so mysteriously subtle project applying this to Destiel in an AU over the last couple of weeks is just making me laugh. Like, my head is full of Cas coming over with a coffee jug and Dean being like :D Hi! ... and now I have some extra visuals for this all in my head. Dean  being a distracted dork by diner staff is my jam.
He likes that they smell like food.
Wondering if 12x12 is going to have more relevance here because of course this IS a trap set up by Ketch and idk how far he's going to let them get with the monster but he is totally around somewhere. Right back to the start of the season where they were being haunted by a motorbike. But anyway they all nearly died in 12x12 and a full 360 degrees around a diner table and a waitress interrupting the attempt to explain the plot is all being repeated in smaller scale here.
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Dean does a goat impression
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I like that the goat got downgraded from William to Bill. Got a lot of name stuff all of a sudden - the Michael and Mick thing from last episode.
"It's a shortened version of my name."
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The waitress is getting way too much attention from not just Dean but the camera. Starting to think
[insert image of the anglerfish backpack]
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For the first time in their goddamn lives Dean thinks to bring the Colt on a regular hunt. Like, they owned it at least for a space in season 3 where they were hunting monsters. Though some of these episodes were difficult to apply it to, 3x07 and 3x08 were pretty regular old monsters :P (It's a small window but it's enough to bug me that in the gap between Sin City and Dream a Little Dream, they never once said, hey, it might not be demons but you think the Colt might be handy? Even if we have no idea wtf is going on, we own this thing... Why not at least carry it and refer to the fact we are? OBVIOUSLY for storytelling reasons you don't WANT the kill-anything gun to be ruining the tension, but )
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Of course Dean thinking he already knows how to kill the monster and telling Sam to be smart about it ("work smarter, Sammy, not harder") feels to me like it's got into a dangerous trap of thinking it's really simple and he has it all sorted. All they need to do is find it and Dean can kill it. He's waving around his phallic gun symbol, can't wait to shoot it off again, and thinks also he's got a chance with the waitress that the camera's been distractedly following as much as his eyes. Dean's NOT got it all sorted, and there's ALWAYS a catch, right? We're 9 minutes into the episode, he's not gonna hook up with the waitress and shoot the monster, and go home with a spring in his step because that's not how this works, even if it seems stupidly simple when you look at the elements he's got in front of him. Which, I guess, looks like what he thinks this life should be - hunting with his brother, badass gun in his pocket so he's the best in the game, and a pretty waitress who has been eyeing him up too, to seal the deal >.>
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Oh jesus I'm with Sam about the coffee thing. "This coffee is hot, kind of like - " *finger gun and wink*
I'm genuinely feeling this from the POV of my fic. Poor Sam, trapped in the diner putting up with Cas and Dean.
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Okay I edited in the this coffee pick up line but completely ruined because the terrible coffee AU is for fucking with the characters and also for Cas you have to ruin it to start with because if it all works they hook up and that's the end of the story :P
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Poor, poor Sam.
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Anyway, looks like not-Jon Snow going in the freezer (FREEZER, SEE? IT WORKS) with the PERISHABLES under the crossed tomahawks is maaaaaybe not gonna last much longer.
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*jumpscare with his boss*
I feel like not-Jon Snow is probably not gonna make it
he's walking out into the snow
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Oh gee there's a goatman in his mirror
Also AAA
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Also they fucking killed him while he was lying on his back in the fucking snow.
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Was he a reference or was my brain filling in the gaps after the Martell and Stark thing, the eternal question of how much I just read into it all :P
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Anyway Dean's happy... Sam's got the, I'm happy for you but we do have a job to do, look :P
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hahahah Dean complains that Sam didn't order pancakes... Welp at this point I am basically just laughing because this is weirdly following the narrative of my story except completely NOT. Like, if/when I post it there's definitely stuff already in it that my brand of plundering canon will make it look like that was also edited in after watching this. Oh well
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At least I don't have a fucking terrifying goat man called Bill in it and I'm not adding him if you paid me
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Dean stealing Sam's not-pancakes is probably saying something or other, for the endless analysing of what the fuck is going on between the brothers now - Sam's ordered his healthy breakfast and Dean steals it from him and tries it for himself after both their initial impression that Dean's not going to eat it. But he's hungry and rumpled from his wild night with the waitress, so... Egg whites and veggies is better than nothing. He WANTS pancakes but he's settling for this, the Sam-approved food that's supposedly good for him.
Now I'm just comparing food and sex again and wondering if Cas is pancakes in this scenario :P That Dean obviously really likes hot waitresses and Sam knows it too because he knows aaall of Dean's corny pick up lines. He's absolutely not complaining about eating this after considering that there aren't pancakes on offer right now... Though the stealing from Sam side of it worries me. Mostly because Sam has previously expressed feeling left out or that Dean's attention is stolen from him - I watched 8x23 too recently so it's bothering me again that Sam said all that about Dean trusting another vampire or angel. If it comes down to attention, of course the whole picking up the waitress scene was really about Dean's attention, and not listening to Sam, and the camera running after her along with Dean's line of sight, leaving Sam's attempt to work with Dean in the dust for where OUR focus goes too.
And now Dean's stolen his breakfast :P
I mean Sam doesn't seem resentful but I worry. >.> Because 8x23 showed how much that can bubble under the surface. Sam being jealous of Cas is foreshadowed as far as I could tell in season 8 when I did the miniscule picking it apart rewatch, in like, ONE scene in 8x08, but he still bursts out with his fear about Dean trusting another angel over him, like there's already one who's stolen Dean's attention... Sam is such an under the surface guy, who knows what bothers him day to day at the moment, but we're on another Cas is Gone stretch of the show, even if it's so far been 2 episodes and his heavily flagged but unspoken absence in 12x16. And it's Sam's job to reassure Dean that Cas is going to be fine, when he's supposedly both of their family.
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Heh, there's a new beer called 3 Sheeps with a neon sign behind Sam.
I have a feeling that my instinct to yell about sheep is actually from my own original novel where a character keeps flagging up her friends' behaviour by just posting a sheep emoji in the group chat, so idk what it means here.
[insert gif of Cas in 9x03 going "what sheep?"]
Separating the sheep from the goats?
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Meanwhile, more of 11x19 vibes - Sam telling Dean about how Pan would take people into the woods for an orgy, after Dean calls him adorable because he plays a flute - I tell you what I'm not over, Dean in 3x08 when they were trying to diagnose a pagan god, and this exchange:
SAM: (Reading an article on the laptop) Huh… When you sacrifice to Hold Nickar, guess what he gives you in return. DEAN: Lap dances, hopefully. SAM: Mild weather. DEAN: (Looks out the window) Like no snow in the middle of December in the middle of Michigan.
I pasted that far into the conversation because I'm still not over the fact they had to use that lore to explain why the Christmas episode, filming in the autumn, KIND OF LOOKED LIKE IT HAD BEEN FILMED IN THE AUTUMN, buuut here in the snow, you can do a full on Jon Snow death scene re-enactment with your terrifying goat god. A little bit of balance happening here :P
Uh, anyway. Dean liking the idea of lapdances from Hold Nickar, and orgies with Pan.
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Buuut then everyone gets murdered.
Of course the opening scene was kind of like an orgy with all the couples making out - I don't think they'd have had sex especially as it was so cold, but still. They made quite a point of showing what goes on at Weathertop. Also, while we're on the subject - in 12x15, quite recently, Gwen's boyfriend was hoping she'd dragged him out into the woods to have sex.
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Sam also manages to gross Dean out with the "full to bursting with their moist slippery meat" and I honestly don't blame him for shoving the food away :P Sam's tried to gross him out before (succeeded with the chicken feet in that first Buckleming episode in season 7). I wonder if, growing up as ghost hunting kids, grossing each other out with real lore and stuff is a sick game they'd play :P
Anyway if I hadn't mentioned enough this episode freaks me the fuck out and it has a great horrifying feeling to it. It actually feels dark and creepy.
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Oh my god the useless sheriff owns the place and is running it into the ground. Heir to a meat empire and he just wants to play with taxidermy and being a big sheriff in a small town. Is he a fucking Trump reference :P
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Eeew meat processing plant actually on screen. This makes me uncomfortable :P the meat's all hung up like our characters often get tortured and I'm assuming there's some parallels to make just with the concept of a meat processing plant and what the BMoL want to do.
Also if the monster is connected to the plant, that's a great place to work to get a ton of meat if you NEED to eat it, so you can go quiet with the killing for 20 years if health inspectors are after you to improve your old ways into more modern safter ways to do things
/might be a metaphor for hunting too
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Sheriff has absolutely no plausible reaction to Black Bill, stammering over a reaction, then dismissing him as a boogeyman, and using the exact same excuse from 11x19 for why all the others left.
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Aand sorry for all the references but Jon Snow wakes up drenched in red light, and of course his resurrection in the show was, well... red. :P I have no idea how many spoilers I should be giving away. This is preeeetty old news I think.
Anywho. Sheriff not suspicious at all for his words leading directly to this - yeah he's lying but there's the truth behind them as if he just somehow knows he's alive and sleeping off being attacked
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Oh wow he appears to be in the freezer in the meat packing plant, what an unexpected twist.
"PERISHABLE" behind him again
LOL "Billhook meats" well then.
Also all the fake warning signs about a coolant spill and toxic chemicals to keep people from going near the freezer. Do you ignore the warning signs and push on because you could save someone? Sam and Dean walk riiiiight past.
This is basically a lesson what dramatic irony is.
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mittensmorgul New: Frodo: take a look at this Dean: Click this link! Dean: You owe me for the gas I paid for last week Biggerson's: New loyalty program member rewards
elizabethrobertajones I KNEW IT
mittensmorgul Biggerson's: Monthly newsletter
elizabethrobertajones they are part of Biggerson's cult
mittensmorgul (the subtitle on that one is "Visit our new location in Duluth Impala Owner's Group: Re: I think I might have the part your looking for (it says "your" I'm transcribing it exactly, not making typos) :P
elizabethrobertajones Okay I am curious about why Sam had that one :P maybe it's their shared account but the rest is all Dean trolling or  bothering Sam
mittensmorgul Dean: This is not a case IMO (I can;t read the rest on this line, will come back to it with a different frame) aDean: Professional Eating Contest Video (this competition ends _____) Dean: question about that lore research you were talking about
elizabethrobertajones Gosh I love the details like that that make them feel like real human beings :D
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I think Jon Snow is about to realise the meat is people?
Nope it's his poor friend, frozen and mutilated.
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Oh boy, Bill does not have human hands.
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*ketchups*
well this episode is rapidly becoming a top 10 Do Not Watch While Eating
the burger right after a meat processing plant is also really uncomfortable - Dean says he's hungry in there, and cheerfully goes to eat a burger after missing the giant warning signs that something is Not Okay, and the ketchup splatter is a vivid way to convey the death - and Dean's *eating* it. This episode he's in full on Dean mode, which is never a good sign. He gets like this when he's NOT doing okay, and this turns his attempt to eat a regular old meal really horrifying.
(Ketchup also linked to Cas - "is ketchup a vegetable" - Dean counts it as one and he's definitely getting a good amount of his five a day with this burger, instead of the healthy food he stole from Sam)
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"Grow up, Sam. 'Kay, burger's beef, bacon's pigs, soylent green's people, but this - this - this is heaven."
Now I have a Mittens awake, she's pointed out the big BS signs in the diner, which I think sums up everything I was going to say about Dean's mood. :P
He's got 2 burgers here in his speech - the hypothetical one that's beef, and the "But this is heaven" burger which is the right now burger.
Of course, burgers are so associated with Cas, from 5x14, which I feel like it's always inevitable that it's going to get mentioned sooner or later, and 10x09. And they make Cas very happy. And burgers are linked to Dean and his humanity and soul - in season 3 he's eating a bacon cheeseburger for breakfast because why not. In season 8 and 9 they're linked to his descent, so that Crowley mentions it was the fact he didn't eat one that tipped him off that Dean was really truly lost when it came to his humanity.
Not sure entirely what it means here, but I think Dean trying to signal normal and healthy and fine is a good start, that this is the Default Dean - waitresses and burgers and all
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"Maybe they just run an evil petting zoo on the side" I mean they've met weirder
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If the Bishops owned all the town, then no wonder everyone who got killed worked there.
I mean I suppose there would always be some services like shops and post offices etc to support a town but... yeah.
I guess even a town built for everyone to work in one place doesn't mean the ENTIRE populace works there. Shh Lizzy.
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Gosh looks like Ketch is invading the Bunker already, for info gathering. This is not at all like 10x22, and
ELDON So this is what I know about Dean Winchester. He's got crappy taste in music, got a hot mom, and he loves flannel.
Basically what Ketch might think already :P
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Oh my god "How does Sam get his hair so shiny" you can't lampshade this. You CAN'T FORESHADOW THIS WITH THE FANCY SHAMPOO LINE
when I heard Andrew Dabb was gonna take over the show, I think a line exactly like this is preeetty much what I was expecting at some point or another - weirdly foreshadowed, fan-servicey, and repeating another Dabb episode but flipped upside down :P
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He also mentions the "ratty flannels", which, rude.
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Creeeeeepy house *pulls blanket over my head*
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"We just got lucky"
Creeeeepy basement in the creeeepy house. You only put that many locks when you really don't want something to get out
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Did Dean shoot the Colt when the light blew? Nah, he just jumped and raised it.
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Why is the Sheriff coming to his creepy empty house right now
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*weary sigh* "Why's it always the rich ones? I mean, what are they like, 'Croquet's alright, but cha know what would be great? Murder!'"
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I officially love this interpretation of Dean Winchester so much
Possibly because I spent ages trying to edit out him saying "I mean, [x] is like," of everything I write all the time and keep forgetting that there's always the possibility I picked up the verbal tic from him :P
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Sheriff keeping his keys for his murder dungeon in a hollowed out book. Being the one to do the walk down the stairs with his gun out, but being caught out by Dean, who has the Colt on him.
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"It's not what it looks like" "Really? Because it looks like a straight up murder room to me"
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*rescinds previous love of Dean so I can apply it again*
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Maybe the sheriff is just being blackmailed by the goat
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"my family has a secret" "well, the best ones do"
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It's a monster in the basement that made them rich, as long as they fed it human bood. Well that sounds like a creepy fairy deal to me, at least with the making them rich thing.
Goat dude is just a dude. I like that they invent another monster to do it.
Also he had the taxidermy skills to maintain the mask - knew it
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ooops and then he tried to put a stop to the dark family of the history, and loses all his money bit by bit and the town dies, and now people are getting killed again
"I just wanted to help people, to make up for all the bad we've done" well that's an extremely Winchester thing to say, at least when they're feeling guilty and motivated to repair things from their dark legacy, rather than just hunting to do it to save people  because that's their job and they're good at it. Sam especially is motivated by this, but Mary, of course, with her deal, started the guilt on the family (though of course the whole being manipulated by angels and demons to start the apolcalypse since literally forever may have a bit more to do with it :P)
And he wanted to leave a legacy
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Wow, he kept the god locked up hoping he'd starve to death - not sure that's how it works
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I hate this with Sam leaning over to look in the hole. Dean with the Colt is nowhere near close enough.
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Dean "I kill gods" Winchester goes to investigate
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I ALSO HATE THIS WITH DEAN EXPLORING
OH NO EYEHOLES IN THE MASK SHOT
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AHHHHHHHHHHH
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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NOPE
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Well it's an empty suit, and an empty bed beside it.
Is it in the mirror -
no there's a guy behind him
AAAH
Dean gets punted through a dust sheet and down the stairs
Going through a dust sheet is never a good idea.
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Is he dead, like, dead dead?
Sam gets locked in the murder basement while the bad guys all gain the upper hand.
I'm legit terrified :P
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I mean they honest to god got the drop on the Winchesters in a way that didn't make them look stupid, but the bad guys look powerful and scary
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Wait, is Sam locked in it? This is happening too fast. Where's he thumping from? *rewinds again*
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OH the guy in the suit rushed down the stairs and locked Sam in WITH the sheriff
who... is helping him
huh
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okay, so they are apparently working together.
I am so not sure I trust this
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ooh Bunker montage. Light hearted music.
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I am pretty worried the Bunker's days are numbered - I say that this time almost every year, because it becomes the centre of attention and this exact same thing in 10x22 made me convinced it was all going to get torn down.
But in this case, Ketch lampshades as well that you can't see a damn thing out of the telescope, which has been one of the big mysteries of the set since it was first introduced, so I feel like they're pretty much done with it now :P All the mystery is gone. Their home has been invaded again and again and is it even safe to set up shop here?
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Honestly this might be an anti-Buckleming measure if they're getting rid of the Bunker, just because it would force Sam and Dean to be a bit less reliant on a home base and the googling in 12x08 was so bad I would consider burning everything down in order to force their episodes to be more dynamic >.>
I will miss Dean having his own room
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Ketch invades Dean's room, in a long line of people invading that room...
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He finds the porn, and very carefully separated from it, the photos of Mary. I'm pretty sure Dean's bedside table is filled with candy. Ketch looks at the photo of Mary, looking exactly as she does now (as she's, like, a few months older with a different haircut) holding toddler Dean, and has the most priceless face I've ever seen. I mean, he's kinda fond of Mary, maybe? Maybe that's a weird moment of softness? But I'm also pretty sure that's "wtf he's a TODDLER and she looks the SAME is she the person that dermatologists hate??"
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Meanwhile Dean isn't looking so good
is he wrapped with saran wrap
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Well I think they've finally found a way to tie up a Winchester and also keep him fresh in the fridge for months
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"You got a lot of jokes" "right now that's about all I got"
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I had to go for a walk which meant leaving Dean in clingfilm. He's right as I left him, deeply unimpressed :D This stuff is good.
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"I'm a Bishop. That's what we do, right? Hunting people, killing them! The family business!"
So that's so many families over the years, from the Benders in season 1, to the Steins in season 10 who are being mirrored by the BMoL who see themselves as a messed up family, and then the Winchesters when they've strayed, have also done the family name a disservice. A dark mirror to their entire family, with these half-brothers, same father, different mother. I guess Sam and Dean both have a wildly different idea of who Mary is, going back to 1x01 which showed how Sam has a hypothetical idea of her and Dean has a sacred memory, which makes them speak of her very differently. Or, you could say, Sam was raised by Dean as his mother figure instead, and Dean did a very different job than his own void in the shape of the memory of Mary, represented by those photos Ketch was enraptured by...
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Also this guy wants to save the town by some sacrificing but for the greater good. Right up to sacrificing his own brother.
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Dean's left in cling film in the fridge.
Lol
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Hehehe Ketch saying "Bugger"
"I could use a pint!"
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Ahaaha Dean in a wheelie chair
oh he got out the cling film.
Now he's banging on the door that they ignored earlier.
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We just saw a "danger sharp blades" sign so I'm now hoping that comes back into play :P
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This is still scary because right near the end we don't know what the actual monster looks like, in so many words.
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Dean gets himself a large hook. Nice.
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Owie, Sam got hit in the head with a large mallet
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Oh dear, brothers confronting each other while Sam is out of action and Dean hunts the monster/is hunted by it in the next room
Brother feeling under appreciated when asked to stop, blurts out that all he gets in his life is the crap - the second hand, failing, run-down stuff. "Not any more, I'm saving this town!" he shouts, waving the Colt at his brother. "I'm the hero!"
shheeeeeesh
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On the sheriff's badge the tomahawks are crossed, raised. On the meat packing plant logos, they seem to be hanging down if I remember right?
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Sam gets in a second Colt kill of the year
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Dean is looking seriously beat up and defeated, and got basically no easy kill that he wanted.
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The sheriff sits gloomily by his dead (evil) brother, and says this is his legacy. He chose to end the family legacy of evil, and wasn't tempted by it, despite being super creepy and weird I guess those are just personality traits because this was a very dark mirror where a brother dies, at the hand of another (right after the Michael thing last episode where Mick had to kill his best friend and of course we have Ketch cheerfully wandering around clearly also a graduate of the exact same fight...) - anyway even though Sam killed the God and ended the ~cosmic~ suffering on the town, the Sheriff had to kill his brother to end the direct threat that it would be used and people would die directly for it. I mean leaving the god and hoping it starves is a bad idea because that's essentially what God did with Amara.
Thing is, with Mick dead but Ketch still giving them orders like he is alive, the Winchesters are working in a place where working with the BMoL has already blown up in their face and they have no idea yet that this decision hasn't worked for them; at the moment they've just lost their privacy to them but they're in a LOT of danger and clueless to it, though, as I said, Dean was cleaning the under-the-table guns as if half-prepared for the worst.
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Awww home sweet home
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BMoL listening in: "next time you hear me say that our family is messed up, remind me that we could be psycho goat people"
... "I have no idea what just happened to them but their lives sound interesting"
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Dean that mini fridge is cursed. That mini fridge is why your home is bugged and your safety compromised.
I hope those cold beers are worth it, Sam
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"What do you think our legacy is going to be?" Oh don't ask the heavy questions before you've even had a drink :P
Sam has completely obliterated the Winchester Gospels from his memory. Smart. He doesn't think they'd be written about in the history books and frankly he doesn't even want to deal with the fact 5 years of their lives are pulpy horror novels
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"That's fine, because we left the world better than we found it"
Ketch listening in "I'm gonna go kill these emo fuckers right now before I shoot myself"
Oh my god this is why they get shot by the MoL this blatant fucking disrespect of their property
I mean, sure, brothers nostalgia but seriously this whole thing started because Sam was installing mini fridges willy nilly, and now they've ruined an antique table
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Like, the BMoL's Code probably has a whole section on what to do about asshole hunters who ruin their property.
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If you can't tell I find it kind of adorable that Dean decided to do that although the Swan Song flashbacks were a little on the nose and I'd have liked if they could trust us to remember that for ourselves, especially since it still doesn't explain that those flashbacks were FROM Swan Song if you're a super casual viewer it's still just them as kids reminding you they did that to the car as well once.
this whole conversation has a pretty nostalgic feel that the show is going to come to the end of its run sooner rather than later, which, when you're in season 12, you really have to start thinking about and writing towards, which I guess is why SO much has been tied off neatly with a bow this season.
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Does make me vaguely worried about the Sam and Dean kamikaze ending but there's always room for one of them coming home without the other and looking at those names on the table or something. it moves it from the car to their home, which means they can now use that instead of the car for a nostalgic kick in the face at the end of all things to show us they're moving on and call this place home.
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Ew, Ketch is just like, Mick got on a plane and left.
I hope Toni wasn't actually murdered, and there's like the Hot Fuzz bit where Sam or Dean or Mary drop into the dungeon of the castle and there's literally everyone who pissed off the neighbourhood watch for years in a big heap of corpses and skellingtons with a great big bushy beard. But the equivalent for Mick's stubble and chest hair
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Ketch is like "I'd rather be with your mother" - I think they are trying to show he's caught nostalgia
And mentions a chupacabra which I'd been wondering about when all we knew about this episode was goats but quickly became apparent before we got to the episode that it wasn't gonna be so I'm awarding myself half a point for that anyway. They have goats on the brain.
Or chupacabra is a goat-sucker, or something that prays on goats. Sam killed the goat god, but Ketch has orders to kill them.
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holy shit he stole the Mary picture. That pic has been used for SO FRIGGIN MUCH over the years it's like a literal hostage situation right now over a PHOTO.
Dean slagging off Ketch's bike in the background despite the fact he loved it when he first saw it. He’s like fuck you and the bike you rode in on
without knowing it
beautiful :’)
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I think Dean slagging off the bike is probably another tick in the box where I think he and Ketch are going to be the ones to fight it out in the end.
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