#will smith doesn't say welcome to earth in the book

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Thank you so much for your detailed answer! You made it very clear, which is really the point because like you said i'm lost when it comes to the genealogy of the Elves. I rely on the family trees on Tolkien Gateway, but i don't think they are complete and i'm not sure either if they are entirely reliable.

Your opinion is important because you have a clear vision of what the characters are, while i have a hard time to define Sauron's personality, and trying to make theories based on the character development of the show is complicated for him, because i don't think we have really seen Sauron, only a darker version of Halbrand (that's my impression).

I was under the impression that he should have been happy working with the elves, despite his dark intentions, just because he really loves smithery and he was surrounded by the best blacksmiths of the Middle Earth. He seemed sincerely excited and proud when he said to Galadriel that he couldn't believe that someone like him was working with the Elven smiths of Eregion as if it was something very prestigious even for him. That's why i was surprised that the show didn't make more of his relationship with Celebrimbror. But with your reply now i understand it's not possible based on what he thinks of the Elves. He seems to not have interest or not care, of feel too superior to enjoy the skills of the species he considers inferior to him, unless it's useful for his plans.

Hopefully, his intentions and personality will become more clear next season now that he doesn't need to play the repentant and can go full evil.

Thanks again for your help!:)

You're welcome! I'm glad you found it helpful. :)

I think, based on what I've seen, the genealogies on Tolkien Gateway are pretty comprehensive, but there are gaps and contradictions in the actual material. That's why Gil-galad's parentage is a fandom in-joke, because Tolkien never seems to have decided it himself. Christopher Tolkien put him down as the son of Fingon in the published Silmarillion, but there were other options. Other characters are in the same boat.

I always try to back up my views of the characters with what's in canon, but they're just as subjective as any other, so please don't take me as gospel! And bearing in mind that a lot of what I wrote in my post was drawn from the Silmarillion and other books, which is a rather flawed approach when theorising on what's going to happen on the show, since that's not what the writers have the rights to.

For what it's worth, I don't think we've really seen Sauron as himself yet - I think that's what we're going to see emerge in the future series. But imagining him as a darker Halbrand seems like a fair way of looking at him, I think, because the whole thing is that he's spent the entire series hiding in plain sight. He never lied, exactly - his deception was all in the things he didn't say!

I agree, actually, his excitement at being in Eregion seemed pretty genuine. The writers and the actor have said they want to play on ambiguity - this is the character known as the Deceiver, after all - so half the fun (for me) is trying to decide when I think he's being sincere, when he's delivering a stealthy truth, or just flat-out lying; when he's scheming or being opportunistic, etc.

Just because I love Sauron, and I can't resist talking about him: the thing he says - "I can still hardly believe it. Someone like me, here, working with the Elven smiths of Eregion!" - it could just be his "just an 'umble human blacksmith" act. But I think he is excited. Like you said, he's a smith, a Maia of Aulë, and on that level, I think, he just can't help himself. He's working with materials he's never even seen before, with the best smiths in Middle-earth. He may have had some notion of disappearing into obscurity as a swordsmith in Númenor, but this - this is the real deal!

Did he have this all planned from the start? I doubt it. That's why he can't believe it - he can hardly believe his luck. He got caught up in events, but they've landed him right here, in the capital of Elven craftsmanship, at this crucial point of the Elves' very existence. But he's an opportunist as well as a schemer - he'll be figuring out how he can make this work to his advantage.

And there must be something delicious in the fact that he, erstwhile lieutenant of Morgoth, is now working with Celebrimbor, last scion of the house of Fëanor, helping him with his masterpiece just as Morgoth may possibly have shown Fëanor how to make his. "Someone like me", indeed!

He hates the Elves, absolutely, but he can't help but appreciate their craft and skill. Even the Valar were awed by the Silmarils. He undoubtedly feels superior to them, yes, but he'll know that they're still a force to be reckoned with. (He once tried to take on Lúthien, after all, and came out the worse for it.)

I was surprised there wasn't more of him and Celebrimbor, too. It may be a result of them condensing the timeline, when in the books Sauron actually spends a few centuries in Eregion. At the same time, I'd be surprised if he's finished with the Elves yet, Celebrimbor included. Galadriel told them that Halbrand couldn't be trusted, but didn't tell them why. "Halbrand" might return to Eregion and convince Celebrimbor that she was mistaken/lying. Or he might use a different disguise. There will need to be some reason for Celebrimbor to forge the other rings, after all. As things stand, they seem content to have made the Three to serve the Elves - but of course it won't stop there. So something will have to happen to tip the scale.

I don't think his repentant stage is going to last much longer! He's already conflated saving the world with ruling it, so I reckon it won't be long before he commits himself to being evil again! >:D

(I'm sorry for going on and on. I just love Sauron a lot. I could talk about him all day. XD)

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Independence Day

“They’ve said it about a hundred times: they’re not falling objects! They’re moving too slowly. And some of them have started moving sideways. They’re flying. They’re fucking flying saucers and this is the fucking invasion of the earth, okay?”

This is an interesting waste of your time. It’s seems to be a rare type of novelization. I’m not sure how to put this better, but it’s like the writer actually tried to make it like a normal book. There’s so much more in the book than the movie, where usually novelizations stray very little from the script. They usually don’t take much time to really describe scenes or provide more character backgrounds than what’s in the movie. This one does, and it feels like a lot of wasted effort because we’re talking about a Roland Emmerich movie. Independence Day is a film that is entertaining enough if you don’t think about it too much. It is total garbage, but that cast is great. In the book, you get an obese, overbearing boss named Marty. In the film, you get Harvey Fierstein. You can have one forgettable scene where Will Smith’s friend tells him to dump his stripper girlfriend Vivica A. Fox and kiss ass so he can become an astronaut, or you can read about his character agonizing about his love for her conflicting with his desire to become an astronaut. You can have drunk Randy Quaid say, “I can fly. I’m pilot,” before getting revenge on the aliens that apparently ruined his life, or you can read his character seeing one of the aliens and realizing they aren’t the aliens he thought experimented on him.

“’Walk to the window. There should be a window right in front of you.’ Reluctantly, she looked around. Sure enough, there was a window only a few feet away.”

This sort of bad writing happens occasionally and it is amusing. It makes it sound like she’s walking around the White House with her eyes closed. Ugh, fine, I’ll open my eyes, but I swear to god if there’s not a window, I’m hanging up! During the first attempt to attack the ships, Steve tells his men to launch their missiles at one mile, and the omnipotent, third person narrator takes a moment to let us know how dangerous this idea is. “One mile? That’s a comfortable distance when you’re standing still, but when you’re streaking along at four hundred miles per hour on a collision course with something a hundred times larger than the Superdome, it doesn’t leave much margin for error.”

My favorite moment you should never put in your book occurs after they come up with the plan to disable the aliens’ shields with a computer virus. Secretary of Defense Albert Nimziki scoffs at the idea and calls it bad science fiction. It’s just a thought away from pointing out this whole book/movie is ripping off War of the Worlds.

Speaking of the Secretary of Defense, he is my favorite character. Or rather, he is such a poorly constructed character that his actions make no sense. He does things because someone had to, I guess, or whatever. Like, he keeps insisting on launching nuclear weapons at the ships after they’ve tried and failed on one ship. He thinks maybe launching more than one nuclear weapon at a ship might work. What’s his argument in favor of this idea? Nothing. He could at least argue that there has to be a limit to the power of the shields, but nope. It’s just the only thing he can think of and the virus plan wasn’t his idea so how could he benefit from that? Apparently, he has aspirations to higher office. It doesn’t matter to him if he makes the planet unlivable to human life as long as he can take credit for killing all the aliens and ride that credit straight to the presidency. What does he gain from arguing against the virus plan? It’s not like they only have that one option. If the virus plans fails, then they can still try his nuclear weapons plan. If his nuclear weapons plan fails, well, too bad because the planet is an irradiated wasteland and isn’t it unfortunate that the aliens have the means to leave and colonize another planet but the humans don’t? Hmm, oh well. Oops.

So, I’ll leave you with this: Secretary of Defense Albert Nimziki has a nickname. The movie barely mentions his name, so I wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t even know who I’m talking about. He was played by James Rebhorn. His nickname is only mentioned once, and it made me think he’d be set if he decided to get into professional wrestling. Or, if he was the main character of the movie, the movie would have to be named after him.

The second half of the movie would be completely different. After the humans mostly wiped themselves out under the brave leadership of The Iron Sphincter Albert Nimziki, the aliens would start setting up the planet for their intended use, by first using some bullshit advanced technology to clean up the nuclear fallout. The Iron Sphincter himself would then lead the resistance by immediately sucking up to the aliens in charge to try to regain a position of power. ---------------------

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