#will is hannibals god blah blah blah

[kuroshika]

honestly im thinking about how hannibal is a firm believer in god but like he also doesnt really say which god. which is soooo funny to me because he sure as hell isnt catholic / christian, because he knows of and follows the teachings of (not in a religious sense, but in the sense that one might follow the news or whatever) other religion’s gods. but in that same vein, he’s also self-identified as a monotheist, so he places his faith in only one higher power, but still recognizes and indulges other deities and religions. he’s sort of accepted and delved really deeply into multiple branches of organized (and unorganized) religion spanning over many different cultures and yet its still unclear which religion he really does follow. he’s made himself above religion while functioning within the inner gears of religion, if that makes sense ??? like he’s set himself on a pedestal that is above the other religions while still relying on those religions to hold his stand up. something something the ripper likes playing his own god.

[bedforddanes75]

"hannibal is a murderer!" "hes a cannibal!" AND WHAT i would let him do a number on my thigh with that cannibal mouth DO not speak to me

[godblooded]

ari aster’s shit is painfully important to me. why? well because hereditary isn’t happy but he touches on a lot of things you wouldn’t imagine burrow all the way into my heart and just kind of take root there.

i’m authentically stoked to see beau is afraid. FINALLY.

[regression-1863]

is it smart to put this just like, the day before AO3 goes down? no. will i do so anyways? yes.

“They didnt ask me to kill myself,” Will snapped, glaring back at Hannibal. In the darkness, he looked more like a shadow, a creature, some mix of the demon in his mind and Hannibal.

“Didn't they?” Hannibal stood straighter, “or rather haven't they? Every new case Jack sends you on, everytime you step into the killer's mind, they’re practically begging you to snap.”

Hannibal's hands found its way to Will’s face from behind him., holding it, “The real question,” he leaned in towards him, “is whether you’ll bend…” Will heard a snap, “or break,” Hannibal whispered, his hands lingering on Will's broken neck before the darkness overtook everything.

TLDR: SOMEONE HAD TO WRITE SEASON 4 AND I DECIDED IT WILL BE ME. WHOS GONNA STOP ME, GOD? THAT MF CAN STRIKE ME DEAD IF HE SO PLEASES. (rated teen for violence and manipulation and blah blah blah smut is not going to happen.) (probably.)

more stuff under the cut!! but anyways, dont mind me coming back to writing after like 3 months of doing. not that.

Rating:

Teen And Up Audiences

Archive Warning:

Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Category:

M/M

Fandom:

Hannibal (TV)

Relationships:

Will Graham/Hannibal Lecter

Will Graham & Hannibal Lecter

Alana Bloom & Will Graham

Alana Bloom & Margot Verger

Alana Bloom/Margot Verger

Characters:

Will Graham

Hannibal Lecter

Alana Bloom

Jack Crawford

Additional Tags:

note that the major character death tag is not mentioned

because I said so

Angst

anngst

Angst and Hurt/Comfort

Comfort

eventually

but like

Okay anyways

i love that "will grahams dogs" is a tag

Post-Season/Series 03

Manipulative Will Graham

he deserves to be a littel manipulative

as a treat

[gladiatorcunt]

something something hannibal’s relationship/view with/of god in comparison to his relationship/view with/of will & the need to show both his old and new god that what he believes he’s being falsely punished and judged for is in fact beautiful and natural because he simultaneously wants to be superior yet also wants approval deep down blah blah

[zapgraptrash]

42, 4 ocs of your choice :)

as in 42 (x4) times? i'll do that and do number 4 just in case i misread lol

42. Let them vent for a second, without the fear of being judged. What would they like to say?

slyger: WHY is it that OTHER ANIMALS can eat their own kind and it's accepted as part of NATURE, but when I do it, i'm A CANNIBAL and a MENACE TO SOCIETY? i'm not even fully human by the arbitrary standards! i'm sure PLENTY of other people would think this is STUPID if they too were to eat another human. it's not like i even do this ALL THE TIME either??? it's all STUPID, FUCK SOCIETY, HANNIBAL LECTER WAS RIGHT.

zapper: YOU KNOW WHAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS? grappler: taking multiple dicks at-- zapper: WHEN PEOPLE DON'T PUT THE LIDS BACK ON THINGS. HOW HARD IS IT TO DO? YOU WERE JUST USING THE THING, YOU WERE ABLE TO REMOVE THE LID JUST NOW, WHY IS IT SOOO DIFFICULT TO PUT IT BACK AFTER? grappler: is this because of the toothpaste or the pringles? zapper: YOU LEFT THE FUCKING CAP OFF THE TOOTHPASTE AGAIN??

dom: why do Hot Dogs come in Package of 10 but the Buns come in Package of 8? for the People who don't have a Bun with their Hot Dog people might say. but a Hot Dog with no Bun is just a Sausage. if you want Sausage, why would you buy Hot Dogs? there is no Substance to a Hot Dog Sausage alone. the Bun and the other Filling is part of the Dog as a whole. if you want Sausage alone, that is when you get Bratwurst or something. it makes no Sense to Dom why Buns come in 8 and Hot Dogs come in 10.

jeffrey: it's sooooo hard to be surrounded by MORONS all the time! in fact i have dedicated a paragraph of crticism to each of these empty headed freaks i am forced to be surrounded by, day in day out-- thaddeus: nobody has time for that. jeffrey: babe no i need to-- thaddeus: send post.

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4. What is the thing they like the most about their friends and what is the thing their friends like the most about them?

grappler can answer this since blah blah his colour is the Harmony colour in the pride flag

i mean what's not to like about me right. i'm a fuckin riot, i'm the coolest person they know.

do i gotta give a reason for all of em? well ok i guess. they're not listening right? this shit is so lame.

uhh granox. he's hilarious and he doesn't even try to be. just the way he says shit and when it takes like 3 seconds for his brain to catch up that's hysterical.

ricky now that she isn't like our boss anymore, she's actually cool as hell. ultimate wingman. wingwoman whatever. she'll literally big anyone up and make em believe they can do anything. everyone needs someone like that in their life y'know.

dom, if you like ever wanted a friend who will dish out the physical affection, she's the one. i know it sounds big cringe but her hugs rule. and she like hangs on to your every word, she like remembers the smallest of things

thaddeus i mean uh have you seen him? yeah he's hot as hell and oh my god he sure knows how to [REDACTED]. ok but like fucking aside, he like knows a ton of shit? once you get him talking he'll talk your ear off about something and it's like, so cool to listen to? always the quiet ones.

does masuyo like consider me a friend? well i hope she does i guess. she's badass. like in the effortless way. not many people can pull that off.

slyger sucks ass hahaha he's a big fuckin baby. (is he listening? no? ok well you know the animal people he draws? what the fuck that's awesome man.)

i'm not gonna talk about zapper fuck him haha. he like knows how annoying i think he is already.

[osbcrne]

and Will called to them for help so many times during season 1 but they literally ignored him when he's literally this half dead shaking dripping hallucinating feverish mess. And then they straight up turned him away when he went to jail. Like- who WOULDNT chose hannibal there??

But still, it was premeditated- Hannibal is the only person Will could go to, and that's exactly what he wanted. then will manipulated hannibal but he realized in himself oh shit i like being evil with him but then he had internal denial and then mizumono and blah blah we know what happens-

Even though they manipulate and try to kill eachother back and forth they feel comfortable and seen and understood with eachother and that's just so 😭😭😭i fucking can't with them oh my god

one may call Will’s behaviour codependency but let me say

literally everyone turned away from Will when he was only SUSPECTED in crime (Jack, Alana, etc), and most of them were always a bit scared of Will’s instability, but Hannibal never did anything like that

he was like ‘oh you tried to kill me once, you’ll probably try again, tell me then how would you like to do it’

who wouldn't fall for this? i mean WHO

[veryspecificnostalgia]

animal + cannibal by ke$ha

original release: 2010

[catastrophic-crisis]

society if the "super" and "lock" in superwholock were instead something else

[roaringheat]

"ive never known myself as well as i know myself when im with him" BIH HELLO???

[shinelikethunder]

I missed Hannibal fandom when the show was airing, so I have no idea whether I’m voicing an Accepted Opinion or an Unpopular Opinion or wading into longstanding discourse...

...but goddammit, I loved Abigail for herself and her own weird interiority and issues, and she deserved so much better than to be made into a hallucinatory mouthpiece for the part of Will that’s still desperately in love with Hannibal Lecter.

(I say this as someone who both Ships The Thing and enjoys the fuck out of s3 and how trippy it is. Doesn’t matter. Doesn’t even matter how clever the writing is and how you can tell by the total lack of interiority that something is off and this clearly isn’t Real Abigail. No matter how much I enjoy shameless OTP content, I do not want it delivered via the tacky, gratuitous waste of a character I originally enjoyed.)

[acesstark]

I like to think that post-fall, Will is the first to make a move and close the last bit of distance between himself and Hannibal— but it took a very frustratingly long amount of time for him to do so.

Hannibal absolutely could have done it first, but he wanted Will to be the one to come to him. Maybe it was a tiny bit petty, a sort of payback for Will running off and marrying someone else and not seeing him for three years, maybe it was Hannibal wanting confirmation that Will wouldn’t leave him this time. (He was mostly being petty, though.)

Hannibal flirts, heavily, because they both know how Hannibal feels and he loves seeing Will squirm. He lets his hands linger on Wills shoulder for longer than necessary. He unashamedly, appreciatively, drags his eyes across Wills form early in the morning. He stares down anyone in town that glances at Will any longer than a few seconds, silently telling them to back off.

Will notices all of this, and obviously knows how Hannibal feels about him. It’s almost uncomfortable at first, Will still hasn’t completely admitted to himself what he knows deep down he really wants (being deep in denial is what will graham is best at).

It builds, though, the more he clocks the look in Hannibals eyes when their gazes meet, when he begins to appreciate Hannibals possessiveness when they’re in public, when he realizes he’s gone days without thinking of Molly and the life he abandoned, when he finds himself waiting up for Hannibal to get home— home— late into the night.

It all hits its peak after a particularly frustrating night for Will. Hannibal’s found his way into Will’s dreams, last nights dream being particularly vivid, and Will lies in bed for a moment after waking before he realizes that it wasn’t real. He stumbles his way out of his room, smelling coffee from the pot Hannibal always has running before Will wakes up, and he enters the kitchen to find Hannibal at their small dining table, coffee mug in hand and eyes trained on Wills movements across the kitchen.

Will blushes, the knowledge of being watched making him feel like Hannibal can see what’s going on in his head, and turns his back to grab a mug from the cabinet above the coffee pot.

In reality, it happens quickly, but to Will it felt like years. One moment, his back is to Hannibal, the feeling of eyes on him a weighty presence, and in the next, there’s a solid body pressed up against his backside. Hannibal, somehow right behind him, reaches up to open the cabinet above their heads and pulls a mug down, placing it in Will’s hand before the man even gets the chance to turn around.

When he does, he meets Hannibal’s gaze immediately, and something in it is so heavy and openly wanting that it makes Will gasp, a little ohmygod that he knows Hannibal hears perfectly based on the way he tries, and fails, to conceal a small grin.

“Not God,” Hannibal murmurs, soft and low into the small space of air between them. “But close.”

Will thinks for a second, I want to kiss him, and he does.

…

Blah blah blah they live happily ever after eating people and being homosexually in love The End.

[adhdphilosopher]

i need, i NEED, something lighter and more fun to break up the incredibly heavy air of every day. and yet?? my brain is like “you told your classmates you would report back with your opinion on hannibal s3 so you gotta watch the entire thing tonight/tomorrow. no breaks”

[kaijuposting]

Some observations on Newt Geiszler

Newt thinks Hermann is a bit loony sometimes, and he isn't afraid to show it. When Hermann proclaims that "numbers are as close to we get to the handwriting of God!", Newt immediately responds with a baffled, yet very amused "What?" Then he mocks Hermann by mouthing "blah, blah, blah" and making mouth movements with his hand. Newt will absolutely clap back at Hermann. When Newt says that he thinks that the kaiju are attacking under orders and Hermann responds with "that's impossible," Newt immediately reacts with "Is it impossible?". When Hermann doubles down, Newt gets pissed and yells back "You know what, why don't you drift with a kaiju?!" Newt recovers quickly from being flexed on - Hannibal Chau stuck a butterfly knife up his nose, and short while later he's perfectly calm. Newt only has so much patience for Hannibal's shenanigans, too. He makes this perfectly clear when he says "Guess who's back, you one-eyed bitch? You owe me a kaiju brain." And sure, he's shaking, but that's literally because a kaiju just tried to eat him. I think most people would be pretty shaken under the circumstances. According to this deleted scene, Newt wasn't exactly thrilled with Raleigh Becket's attitude, and he very quickly made it known. Raleigh thought he was going to have the last word when he put his hand on Newt's shoulder and said "trust me, you don't wanna," but Newt fights back and basically makes it clear that he thinks Raleigh is all violence and no brains. The only reason the argument stops is because Stacker Pentecost cuts it off. So basically, Newt Geiszler is full of piss and vinegar. He can more than hold his own against any snark Hermann can throw at him, and he doesn't let anyone else walk over him, either. He's no delicate little flower; he's a bitey little varmint. One can't really imagine things going well for anyone who tries to meddle in Newt's affairs; he is not subtle, but he is quick to anger, and he will laugh at you. (God help the poor fool who tries to get Newt and Hermann go on a date, let alone kiss before they feel good and ready for it, for this soul would face both of their wraths. I think it's safe to say that when this happens it's going to happen on Newt and Hermann's schedule, and not a moment before.)

[gods-leastfavorite-parent]

Blogging My Mom’s Reactions to Hannibal, “Mizumono”

When Jack and Hannibal are speechifying

Mom: Y’all are so dramatic.

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*seeing Garret Jacob Hobbes* Ugh, this guy? Didn’t we leave him behind in season one?

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*on seeing Freddie Lounds* 

Mom: Look at this Irish ass woman, wearing an Asian top.

My brother: She could be Scottish.

Mom: What difference does it make?!

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*the book scene*

Mom: They did not meet often enough for this many notes.

Me: Hannibal’s obsessive, though. And kind of creepy.

Mom: He’s not kind of creepy, he’s VERY CREEPY. 

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Mom: Does he think they’re gonna run off together and live happily ever after?

Me: I can’t impress upon you enough how much that’s the plan.

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Mom: *listening to the dialogue* I swear to god, the fucking writers on this show are on shrooms at this point.

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Mom: Is he gonna SNIFF HIM?!?! 

Me: Yeah.

Mom: UH, FUCKING WEIRDO! This guy!

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“I dream darkness comes into me”

Mom: It DID!

Me: Mom!

Mom: What? It’s right in front of me, that’s what it is!

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*when Will and Hannibal are talking about the imago*

Mom: He’s hurt by that! He’s like, “Why can’t I be your ideal, Will? Just for a moment?”

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Mom: They’re really playing up the god imagery.

Me: Well, the thing you have to understand mom, is that religious imagery is extremely gay.

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My mom, a lawyer, when the government woman says Jack can’t entrap Hannibal like this: She’s right, and I hate that she’s right.

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Mom: Oh this is from the first episode! Oh, he’s gonna hurt Jack and I don’t like it!

Jack: *you’ve been my friend, blah blah*

Mom: I think he’s sincere. Jack, you need a therapist.

Me: ... not THIS therapist, though.

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*when Jack and Hannibal are fighting*

Mom: 👀👀

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*randomly while Hannibal and Alana are talking* Mom: God, I hate his hair.

Bro: Don’t we all.

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Mom: Leaving without saying goodbye is rude, but not killing people.

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*when Alana shoots with no bullets*

Mom: *hysterical laughter*

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*Abigail lives and pushes Alana*

Mom: ........... this ... little ... HOOCHIE MAMA

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*final confrontation*

Mom: *sweetly* We couldn’t leave without you because of the family unit, Will. We couldn’t leave without our daughter who’s just as FUCKED UP AS WE ARE!

Mom: *more hysterical laughter* I wanted to surprise you! It’s a gift! I didn’t kill our fake daughter!

Mom: *laughs* I just gutted you, but I forgive you!

Mom: God, the beautiful flooring ... being stained by all this blood ...

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*sees Bedelia*

Mom: ... What the fuck. What the fuck. Doesn’t she have- WHAT THE FUCK.

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Mom: Ugh. I don’t even wanna say his pretentious ass name.

Me: Call him that ho.

Mom: *scoffs* That wanna-be ho. He can’t get with Will. 

[masterthespianduchovny]

I never wished for Gillian’s relationship to fail, but I was largely indifferent to it and it has nothing to do with Gillovny. Funny enough, I do actively dislike David’s relationship for obvious reasons.

I wasn’t super involved in the tumblr fandom during 2015-2016, but I do remember all of the fuckery that went down with David and gillian. Their behavior was what ignited dormant and new shippers. It added flames for those who never let that flame die.

So, you had all of G and D’s antics and shit, which many were going crazy over. Some notable people as well who have since distanced themselves from that era. Like most people were for this shit because whatever was going on between them was too hard to dismiss as being friendly or professional behavior. Or even harmless flirting.

Now, there are those who always insisted that G and D were acting and putting this show on for the fans. I guess to drive ratings, but this argument has always been nonsensical to me. For starters, people who are interested in Gillovny are going to watch regardless. Almost everyone else don’t give a shit and was going to watch the revival for Mulder and Scully. The things fans went crazy over wasn’t enough to even get anyone interested in the show who wasn’t already interested.

Like, the kimmel interview is mostly only interesting to someone who follows Gillovny or knows of their history. Other people would find their behavior interesting, but would they really make them watch the show??? And it’s barely even a headline.

So, what they were doing back then was enough to get philes excited, but not enough to drive ratings. Which cancels out the idea that they behaved the way they did to garner attention.

But, the naysayers kept insisting that this was all a PR ploy.

After (???) season 10 premiered, Gillian was spotted with Peter I suppose. And she kept being spotted with him. Don’t know the true timeline. But, when this happened, suddenly, these same naysayers were Gorgan. They were all in on Peter and Gillian and throwing shots at Gillovny fans and how we were “played.”

(It must be noted that just because Gillian ended up dating Peter doesn’t mean she didn’t have a thing with David. Lol)

Over time, they were gassing up this relationship and talking about Peter’s greatness and how he and Gillian balanced each other.

For me, my bullshit meter was going on.

Yes, some fans just wanted Gillian to be happy and shit, which I’m all for, but the loud gorgan supporters used this relationship to “get back” at the Gillovny crowd. I honestly don’t know how hostile it became between the two groups, but from what I did see, this support was superficial, which was proven years later.

Because, imo, how can you be for a relationship that just started and you barely know anything about it? How can you know all of this about two people you have no insight on? Gillian keeps her relationships largely private and we know even less about Peter’s relationships (read: marriage), yet there are posts about how these two are a good fit? Lol

What solidified my indifference was Gillian’s behavior. Pre like 2013, Gillian wasn’t really featured in the media all that much because she wasn’t doing any noteworthy projects. Then, she did the fall and was featured more. She was very vocal about being a feminist and shit. “Future is female”, talking about her same sex relationships, didn’t want to be in relationships unless she was in control. Isn’t this the woman who famously ended a relationship by going home and leaving her then boyfriend on the beach to find his way home? Lol.

Gillian’s image was very independent, assertive, I’m the boss, blah blah blah.

Then, she gets with Peter and it’s “he’s responsible for my success.” Peter this, Peter that, blah blah blah blah.

Gillian’s image is now submissive, insecure, handing the reigns over to her man.

That was something that made me look at her differently and not care for her relationship. It felt like whiplash from her previous image.

That image she cultivated with Peter was so contradictory in what she presented herself as while they were together. So, although I still supported her professionally, I just wasn’t here for the relationship.

Ironically enough, Gillian and Peter are the ones who come off as having the PR relationship compared to whatever David and Gillian were doing. Maybe not on the red carpet, but Gillian has (always) been silly and sexual with David. There are x files outtakes that proves this. She jokes/“jokes” with David about wanting to suck his “cock” and David has said shit to her like “did you just cum?” In many of their interviews, Gillian is the the giggly and silly.

Even when Gillian was with Mark and David was still with Tea, that dynamic was there, but a muted. 2015/16 was more pronounced, but it didn’t come out of nowhere. So, the idea that this was PR doesn’t track.

But, Gillian gets with peter and, suddenly, she has a personality change and is singing the praises of her boyfriend who she later works with.

Do I believe this was a PR relationship? Tbh, I don’t give a shit either way. But, PR relationships exist and have always existed in Hollywood. They function many ways: to bring attention to one or both parties, to deflect from (potential) rumors, to build hype for a project, etc.

Peter and Gillian were gassing each other up and shit, selling one another and their relationship. Many famous married couples don’t even talk about their spouses like them (and, yes, I believe these married couples love one another).

The thing about David and Gillian is that, even tho some thought something may have been going on around 2015, some people have always thought they were fucking at one point in time. Others think they just have massive chemistry. But, why would they need to fake a thing between them that they won’t admit to to manufacture interest in the show that people were excited to see come back? It sounds contrived, doesn’t it?

Compare that to: a well loved and acclaimed actress who hasn’t had meaty work in a while getting together with the creator and writer of a show that’s an Emmy darling. They’re always singing each other’s praise, which is noteworthy for a person who doesn’t talk about her relationship much. Who she then later works with on said show.

Which one sounds more like PR?

The actors who’ve had mad chemistry since they’ve auditioned together? Who’s chemistry never wavered even when they couldn’t stand each other and now are in a better place?

Or...

The actress and writer who talk about how wonderful their partner is and that this relationship is so mature, and then later work on his show together before breaking up a month later?

I honestly don’t think it’s absurd to have skepticism towards gorgan. Many of those adamant that gorgan was real and others are delusional are invested in gorgan because their anti Gillovny. And some did truly want to see her happy, but most weren’t invested in that way.

Whether someone thinks gorgan was real or not, I found it embarrassing on Gillian’s part. It’s probably more embarrassing if it was PR and sad if it was real.

And I know ppl will disagree with that because they found the relationship mature and supportive, but again, crediting Peter with the success of her career??? You can’t even argue, “she means now” because Gillian was getting a career resurgence and rave reviews for Stella Gibson and bedelia de murier (???). She had her role in American gods (I know it was one episode).

And in each of these roles, it was “omg! Gillian Anderson!!!”

She was so loved in Hannibal, they fucking expanded her role. And this was all pre Peter (American gods may have had some overlap).

Gillian isnt “struggling” for roles because people don’t want to hire her, she’s “struggling” because she’s trying to find roles that balances being a working actor with being a hands on mom.

And that’s why I was always “meh” about the relationship. I don’t think Peter’s a bad guy and he’s good at his job, but the way Gillian’s persona changed during this relationship was off putting and I didn’t care to get invested in them for that reason. But, as I mentioned on other occasions, the vocal support of the relationship and notable silence when they ended will always be fascinating to me. I honestly believe that gorgan support was fueled by the anti Gillovny crowd and backlash to David’s relationship (its a 🤮 for me too) and behavior towards Gillian regarding the x files’ potential continuance.