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sexy-cheese · 7 years ago

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Rick and Morty Season 3 Episode 6

episode breakdown....and by breakdown I mean me....im breaking down...into sobs and endless sadness and bitter impatient tears....its me. im broken down Stage 1: we see a combination of enlightened rick (er) and toxic rick (tr) trying to get through the trauma of whatever it is they have just survived. Tr would most likely start rampaging, cursing, breaking shit, and trying to kill off anyone around him in a homicidal blur until he calmed down, however er is probably in there wondering why they even did the stupid thing in the first place. Its not their place to meddle. They are an all powerful super being with highly superior intelligence, so why do they feel this horror and trauma for such a worthless gain? Together they neutralize into a 'drink until the pain is gone mentality' henceforth leading to our rick's alcoholism and ideology of the just 'dont think about it' mindset this is the rick we know. The push everything aside, drink, and dont think Stage 2: Tr separates. If you notice, the very first thing he screams when he wakes up is "morty", because naturally it is the first thing on his mind. He frantically searches for him and then calls him a worthless piece of shit, continuously bringing up how stupid and useless he is. This comes from his severe fear of detachment from morty if he were ever to become overly confident and decide he doesnt need his grandpas cool adventures or life style anymore. If a morty gets too confident, he leaves his rick and becomes a sociopath. Normal rick can relatively keep the urge to bring morty's confidence down under control, but tr impulsively spews it out, so damn afriad that morty will wake up and realize he doesnt need him at any moment. He constantly has to cry out and tell him that they need each other, in his own toxic way. Calling him 'a piece of shit' is basically begging him 'dont leave me' he has to make him think he needs him. got it? lets move to the next step of stage 2 tr constantly says things like "im a god" "im above this" "everyone around me is garbage" "you think normal people can do this?" so obliviously this is his narcissism and entitlement, but digging deeper it is also his sense of inner insecurity. now, you may say 'WHAAAT RENATA HOW CAN DAT BEEE?" well lemme splain. basically rick knows how smart he is, he knows how powerful he is, and he knows all the stuff he could do with this power and intelligence....but that's the thing, he really doesnt know all the stuff he could be doing, because he doesnt do it. running around in the toxic can, you can see him panicking, frantically working and running to make stuff and do things. He knows how great he is, but he has no idea how to use it or what he should be doing with it. Think about it, when someone tells you "ayy, your the smartest being in the multiverse and could probably cure the world of every sickness"....wouldn't YOU be a little overwhelmed? He has so much to live up to (an impossible amount) that he hides behind the idea that he doesn't care about any of it. He cant use his power to save the universe, so instead he claims he doesnt care about it. but deep down he feels bad, because he feels like everyone expects him to do something, when in reality theres way too much to do so, to sum up, Toxic Rick is made up of multiple other different things than just narcissism and selfishness and rage...just like toxic morty, he is also his burning insecurity in the fact that hes just a normal man, who happens to be the only person who could ever hope to save the universe....and yet he has no idea how to do it Stage 3: meet enlightened rick. You're thinking, "oh, so THIS is the side of rick that actually COULD save the universe if he wanted because he IS confident enough in his abilities, right?" well the answer is no. this rick doesnt have a flipping clue either. how would he? there is no possible way to save every single multiverse, but unlike tr, instead of letting it consume him in misdirected guilt and insecurity, he instead has (healthily) let it go. Hence the name, he is now 'enlightened' from the worlds problems because he has thoroughly let go of his human need to be the hero and instead surpassed it all in the 'i need not meddle' mentality. BUT. you might ask, "well renaaaatttaaa then why isnt this rick super healthy? why isnt he perfect? why does he seem so interested in getting his other half back?" welll my little reader I have some thoughts. Thought 1) er has no humanity, attachment, purpose, selfworth, or cosmic opinion in himself, the human race, or the universe. why? because he has officially decided that its all pointless anyway and most importantly (big dividing factor here) he is OK WITH THAT. he has accepted the fact that he has surpassed human attachment because he has accessed infinite realities and multiverses to the point where nothing he thought had meaning does anymore. To become fully enlightened, he has let go all of his family, emotions, and self doubts because frankly, he just doesnt give a damn. But in a healthy way? Hes just let it all go, unlike tr who insists he 'doesnt give a fuck' when in fact, he does give millions and trillions of fucks and it eats him alive with each passing day. thoughts 2) so why does er work to get the phone to connect and work at getting his other half back? well he says it right there in the episode when he and confident morty are sitting in the parking lot at school. He says "im accountable to my toxins, right?" he wants to rejoin because he knows that tr has all his intelligence, all his power, and all his guilt wrapped up into a big toxic package. What does this mean? Hes FUCKING DANGEROUS. thats what it means. er is so enlightened, that he knows letting tr do his worst will mean the end of the world. now, for a little while in the episode, he tries to reason with himself and say that he shouldnt meddle in this either, because why is tr any better or worse than he is? but eventually he realizes the truth that tr left unchecked, is bad news for everyone and not worth lying idly back to watch the universe(s) burn. Because yeah...they would all burn Stage 4: now lets watch these two adorable little super humans interact. tr sums it up perfectly when he says "this is the part of your pussy grandpa that keeps it real".....yup. Thats pretty much the whole concept. If youve been paying attention, youve probably already figured out that er isnt exactly as healthy as he thinks he is. The truh of the matter is just sitting back with your thub up your ass like "oh theres no hope in solving ALL the probems, so let me just not interfere at all" is a pretty effed up way to think. Without tr, he probably wouldnt do anything but stay at home with his family and like, build toys electric toys for kids or something. He wouldnt DO anything extraordinary for fear of messing up the fragile stuff of the universe. Tr reminds him what a waste it would be to live a normal life and ignore their vast power. however, tr doesnt know how to use it either, so hence, the fighting breaks out. basically, they just have no idea how to use there god-like intelligence, and it gets ugly for both. even er says 'that stuff is a part of us and we need to put it back.' he knows that in sense he needs it, otherwise his power will be wasted buuuttt.......tr doesnt feel the same way. tr believes that without er, he could possibly become a real man. a real human. a real person who maybe actually cared about things and didnt feel so 'above' everything and so detatched. like a god among people who couldnt really connect with anyone. he doesnt want to go back to that lonely life of being the only one in his realm. this is why he keeps trying to destroy him while er just wants to recombine. Honestly, er is in the right here, (obviously) because he can see the big picture of how they need each other. Also, fun snidbit, tr is clearly the fighter of the two....clearly....and the sexy maker too apparently.....hehe....good to know good to know.....ahem.....anywaaayyyyy but.....looky here.... here I bring you.... Stage 5:tr doesnt give a shit. he doesnt give a fuck, he doesnt give a....oh,....Beth's here?..... he....leaves. immediately. so, here is where we see tr's true weakness, and what er truly hates about himself. He can't even bring himself to be around Beth or put her in any sort of harms way, so he leaves the very second she walks in the door. what does this mean? it is tr, er, and our rick's one true weakness. Truth is, he really cant be fully enlightened and reach his maximum potential, because of his human attachment to his family. Tr probably feels so guilty about leaving Beth (even though it was probably his idea because he was terrified of hurting her) that he cant even stand to look at her. he leaves immediately even though he was technically winning. plain as day, he admits his own true weakness, he just cares too much about his family to ever become truly godlike and reach his full enlightened potential. tr is human, er is the god. but er can see enough of himself to acknowledge that he needs his human self to be a fully functional human being. to truly be...rick. Stage 6 (almost done) and here it is....the moment er truly finally actually comes to terms with the fact that his 'version' of 'health' was actually just what he thought was his true potential. But alas, because the machine choses your version of health based on what YOU think is healthy, this is the issue he realizes. he didnt become healthy, he became his full potential, minus the pain and limits of human emotion. but the truth is, a full, enlightened, god-like potential is kinda useless without compassion and empathy...isnt it? I mean, if you have the power to save, but you just dont care....then whats the point? He realizes that essentially a god that does nothing is no god at all, and even if tr is a toxic, guilty, confused, miserable man too overwhelmed by his own potential to actually fufill it, he will accomplish more than er ever will just because of that energetic will to survive and just flipping DO SOMETHING. he literally realizes in this one moment that he would probably never accomplish anything like this, not without that crazy, overwhelming, miserably human passion that tr harbors in his soul for his shitty life and shitty decisions. and this is when he knows that they have to reunite, just for the sake of not wasting his life. Stage 7: (my personal favorite) ah yes.....the climax of the story. where it all becomes clear. something I havent touched on yet (which i bet you thought i forgot about....you lil scamp) is why tr is trying to make the whole world toxic. Why? simple. he has mistaken his toxic qualities for his humaness. (which in a way is true, but he also got a bunch of bad shit that er probably spends most of his energy keeping on the down low) and so in tr's mind, he isn't 'toxifying' the world, he releasing people's true emotions and true selves. he releasing the raw humanness inside them so they dont have to deal with their superegos always judging them and telling them how to live. he is the id, in a way, freeing all the other id's from their superegos so the world can be a genuine, purely human world. However, obviously, without superego the people are monsters, hence the carnage of the toxified people. to him, this is his way of saving the human world by bringing out their true human nature. unfortunately true human nature is primal and disgusting, but shh.....dont tell him that.....poor innocent bean....look how proud he is.... so proud..... ahem....anyway back to the climax. so now er shows up again and starts talking, lets analyyyyze. first off, er has learned something very important.....its tr's one weakness that he displayed when best walked in, hes afraid of losing/hurting his family. So of course, he targets toxic morty. and er knows this because he doesnt care about morty WHY WOULD HE? there are millions and trillions of mortys. it is beneath his highly superior brain to care, but tr sees the little picture, and in the moment, he needs morty to support him. He needs to latch onto him. he needs the human comfort. he doesnt want to admit that, but he needs it more than anything else in his life. in fact, he needs it so much, he doesnt even think er has the balls to do it, because he thinks he needs it too....but thats just it....he doesnt. and he knows he doesnt need that human connection, which is why he knows he needs his other half back to need it for him and here we have the moment that literally made tears come..... "irrational attachments"......that line just really hurt me bro.....it hurt me good.....it got me right in the soul....yikes. too real. *sniffle* anyway, back to er's rant. he basically sums it up by saying "you are literally incapable of seeing the bigger picture" hence tr's irrational love and dependency for his family, even though er and tr both know there are infinite sanchez families with infinite different fates that they have no way in saving or interfering in any way, tr still for some reason feels emotion towards a morty that really isnt even THE REAL morty. but think about this....its the most insecure morty, right? the one that is the most insecure, helpless morty of them all....its the one that needs him the most. the one that is least likely to ever leave him....*more sniffles* so of course he cares about him. I mean....we've seen what morty is like without him.... i think rick put it best when he called him 'a tiny american psycho'.....which I mean, he would be, right? hes related to rick afterall. with just enough jerry to keep him insecure. at least jerry was good for one thing. and soooo....thats the wayyyyy the news goes. At the very end we see a reunited rick. he even says 'master of both worlds'...meaning he is once again human and god. id and superego, making one highly functioning ego. the rick we know and love. a beautiful mess. so the meaning my friends.....you really shouldnt hate the bad pats of yourself, because at the end of the day, its kind of what makes you....human. wow....this got really freaking long, and I didnt even get into my whole theory about our morty being evil eyepatch morty. (remember in evil eyepatch morty episode where rick says "a confident morty is bad news, ill tell you when youre older".....well I think we know what that means now) yikes....and i thought rick was a handful when he was cocky. so there you have it. Our bread and butter, our saint and sinner, our sexy grandpa and teenage rocker.....our super genius space alcoholic. our rick sanchez. a beautiful chaotic mess. wubba lubba dub dub bitches.

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corasanheart · 8 years ago

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Not a useless person

Fanfiction based on: Mob Psycho 100

Category: romic and angst

Pairing: Tome Kurata/Tokugawa

Chapter 1

“Telepathy club is hereby disbanded”.

Her words echoed in her head again pushing more tears on her cheeks. Tome was passing winter break mostly like this, closed in her house in front of many books left casually open. After her parents went away for a travel in the suggestive sight of snowy mountains, (they do not take her because it was for her best she stayed to study) the house fell in a total silence broken only by her sighs. She was thinking at the time wasted on doing nothing with guys that didnt care about her at all. Tome founded her club with a deep desire, maybe crazy or creepy, but in which she truly wanted to believe. She was glad to share her passion with other people thinking maybe they are interested too. Fool! Who is so fool to believe in aliens? And telepathy too… They were only searching a club where laze around without any specific goal to think about and yeah.. the “telepathy club” seems the better to fit with this. Tome was the only one enjoying this club all this time. And so this is finished leaving her with an empty mind. Three years of any memories. Now at least she had to make up for study. There are so many things she didnt understand yet. Finding an alien maybe its easier…

Tokugawa approached the house and looked closely at the little sheet in his hand. “This is the address. I wonder whose..”. He glanced at the doorbell and read “Kurata”. That rang him a bell but he just couldnt remember where had heard it. He just pushed it and waited. Someone opened the door as fast as closed it. - What the.. what happened?-. The girl, actually Tome, just shouted -Why are you here?!- “Maybe he knew I was continuing secretly the club” -I’ve already disbanded it if you wanted to know that!- with the voice little broken. Tokugawa remained silent for a moment elaborating -What club?- “She has to be the one from the Fake club” -Aah that club. I’m not here for that. Anyway it occured months ago.. why do you come up with that so suddenly?-. She opened a bit the door and mormored something. Then just said -Enter-.

Tokugawa sat properly on the sofa and released a deep sigh before of starting to explain. Tome just sat quite far from him unsure on what expecting. -I’m here for this-. He put a piece of paper on the little table in front of them. -You, I suppose, left this message on my school desk in which you beg me for help you to study and there is also your address-. Tome blinked her eyes several times before answer: -I didnt do that! And I would never ask for YOUR help-. -Ah..So do you have any idea of who could have done it? I dont know, someone who might thinks you need my help-. Tome startled. -I dont know..- “someone who cares about me?!” -It must be a stupid joke! So I think you can leave now-. Tokugawa was watching her carefully in silence.

-What? Are you listening??-.

He just said seriously: -I will help you-. -Whaaat?! I dont need it!-

“She’s got marks under her eyes. She was crying. Is so desperate for the exam?. I cant just ignore it”. -I dont think so-.

-You are so stubborn, I told you I dont need any help!-

-Tome..-

-Indeed I just cant stand your presence in my house in this moment-

-Tome..-

-And I can manage to study on my own. Ive already all under control-

-Tome..-

-So dont get worried for nothing and..-

She stopped in fear after has noticed tokugawa creepy face.

-Just shut up Tome -

Tome gulped “Maybe I should call the police” but then just mormored an -Ook-. Then she guided Tokugawa to her room. He sweated a bit “Why she invited me to her room so suddenly?! It’s so naive. If I was another guy I would have taken advantage of the situation. Lucky her, im not interested..”. When he entered the room paralyzed. “What on earth..”. Tome’s room was fully painted with a Universe pattern and covered with strange psychedelic posters of unearthly things and some pieces of old newspapers about ufo apparitions. While on the floor there was a mess of colourful packages, some of them containing every sort of snack and others just being garbage. “This is way more shocking of Kamuro’s room”. Tome sat at the desk trying to put some order. Tokugawa came closer behind her.

-Sorry there’s only one chair. Did it bother you?- she said. “Yeah maybe this convinces him to leave”. “She is just too lazy to bring me a chair from the living room” -No Im ok like this. So in what subject do you have more problems?-.

“All of them but I dont want to seem stupid or like I need help” -Im ok with everything like I said, but math..-. -Mm let me see-. He took the math notebook from Tome’s hands. Tome froze. He took a quick look to all her notes and exercises to judge in which seems in more trouble. Then he return the book to Tome.. after using it to hit her head. -Is plenty of nonsensical sketches. Can you just pay attention to the lessons, cant you? Anyway firstly I’ll help you with basic and symple notions and then with exercises-. Tome foreshadowed a huge headache for this.

It seems like Tome wasnt in a desperate situation. She managed to solve several exercises (Tokugawa’s advices on some of them were of help too, she had to admit it). -Now come the difficult one-. Tome remained with a ‘what’ face. Tokugawa wrote down the equation. Tome, trying to regain confidence, started to fill the paper of scribbles that could fit but something stopped her. -No. You cant start like this-. A hand took the pen from Tome. Tokugawa’s chin leaned on Tome’s shoulder while he explained the resolution. Tome looked at his face expecting the usual angry gaze but instead he was too concentrate on what he was doing. She hadnt never see him like this and not this close to her. He wasnt ugly but for somewhat reason he was extremely pale. That gave him a more vulnerable aspect. Tome blushed a little without caring what he was saying. He suddenly turned around and paused. The creepy face returned. -You’re not listening. Why are you staring?-

She gulped -No,no,no I heard everything. I swear it!-. Tokugawa sighed. “Maybe I shouldnt do much pressure on her. Is she really so desperate only for exams? Anyway she had cried for somewhat reason, it’s normal she is a little distracted”. Tokugawa stood up. -Tome I know you are worried, but you have to pay attention if you want..-.

He stopped and close his eyes. Then fell on Tome’s lap. Tome froze and after a second let out a scream: -Aaaah!What are you doing?!-. He fell on the floor without any reaction. “Oh.. He is not moving. Is he dead!? Is it my fault?? I havent done anything!”. She turned him panicking. “Oh. He is ok. He just passed out”. Tome was tempted to leave him there like this but in the end thought at least to carry him on her bed.

“Hgnn he is pretty heavy” she struggled until finally managed to lay him down. Then came nearer with the chair to look at him. She osserved the Vice president thinking of what could have weakened him to this state. He is the kind of strong and overwhelming guy and it’s just of discouragement to see him like this.

Tome kept to stare at him when noticed something wrong on his face. It was a lock of hair that escaped from his fixed hairstyle. It was so strange. She hasnt, anyone hasnt ever seen him with a single hair out of place. But seeing him like this made Tome feels a bit strange. “Im curious on how he would look like with messy hair”. She, without thinking to much on what she was doing, tryed to get closer to Tokugawa and to place her hand on his hair. But something immediately stopped her.

One hand of the Vice president held her wrist tighly. “Wha-a-t? Is he awaken? He still had his eyes closed though”. Tome felt embarassement on what she has tryed to do and just blushed and stayed still. Suddenly all the force in Tokugawa’s arm faded. It fell on the bed dragging also Tome’s arm that couldnt help but lose balance on the Vice president.

Tome didnt know how to behave instead of remain still and turning all red.

(the end in the next chapter)

Notes:

it’s my first fanfiction ^-^ im happy ~~

chapter 2 will be posted next week

sorry for my bad english really; Ive checked it several times to not leave big mistakes but surely you still can find some others (a ton of others)

sorry my writing is strange *-* if there’s something incomprehensible you can ask

any comment is accepted

and ideas too

hope you to enjoy this ship

#mob psycho 100 #mp100 #mp100 fanfiction #tokutome #tome kurata #tokugawa #romic #first fanfiction *-*#chapter 1 #hope you enjoy it<3 #its my first try #its not too long but i thought it would be better divide it into two part

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themaraudingmisfits-blog · 8 years ago

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Advice you probably shouldn’t take

DISCLAIMER: The following decrees are spewed by the mind of a highly unqualified twenty something who has zero knowledge about philosophy and even lesser tact or wisdom to dish out sappy quotes and is totally against self help books and thinks rainy days in her jammies with hot cocoa is what it feels like to be “zen”.

Since I don’t have a fairy Godmother who turns pumpkins into carriages, life sorta continued sucking till I learned these things the hard way and I though hey, why not bug you guys with it and maybe some unhappy soul who is ambling around in this big bad world might actually find it useful but then again since it’s me, it’s advice you probably shouldn’t take...

#1.My first decree to all you humans and non -alike-THOU SHALT BE AWESOME!!

Don’t ever be any less!!

Don’t go down gently!!

Be relentless!!!

Raise hell!!

To all the haters who tell you to be less weird or less loud or to live by the rules or to be part of the flock…tell all of them to fuck off!!

We struggle with the whole of our being to get through each day, with bad coffee and late passes and F’s on pop quizzes and broken hearts , why make it harder than it already is by trying to fit in? Why be a different you? Why must you listen to the dont’s and the cant’s and the shouldnt’s and all those other frownie words?

Take your life by the reins and charge into the world with your oh so special souls coz you have one freaking life and you have to make it count as the sparkly person you are!! Be proud and awesome!

Be confused, be gay, be a lesbian, be emo, be a blob, be anything and want everything because you deserve nothing less and you are enough for yourself!!

#2.QUIT

Whaaat?? What is this crazy chick saying? The whole world tell me to keep going, to keep trying ,quitters never win and all that bull and one fine day she comes along and tells me to quit?

Yes, I just told you to quit.

Quit doing what you don’t like LOVE !!

Don’t do it coz your best friend does it, or it’s been in the family or that’s what your sister majored in. Stop taking those guitar lessons you hate, you don’t have to watch GOT or listen to profane songs or put on make-up. Stop doing all those things unless you absolutely sure as hell love doing it. Coz you’ll have been whiling away your time, missing out on things you love. Do you really want that for yourself?

If you dont’ stop now then soon you’ll be stuck at a desk job typing in numbers and missing out on doing some volunteer work or taking snake charming lessons or gorging on barbeque flavoured bagels in Northern California so quit now and run off , getting the hell away from what was holding you back,

#3.It’s okay to say NO!!

I’m one of those people who cannot CANNOT say a decent NO to anyone even if it means doing something that makes me miserable or if it means having to walk an extra kilometre to go get that person’s favourite kind of popsicle even if she’s been a total bitch to me my whole life,I multi task, I take on stuff, a gazillion things with the complete knowledge that I know I won’t be able to go through with it but I’m going to use my yet to be discovered powers and what happens at the end? I mess up, I’m unhappy and grumpy and I compIain about what was originally my fault because I was a wimp who couldn’t muster up the single syllabic no.

But you know what? You are not super human, most of us are struggling to be barely human, we cannot do everything, that whole “anything is possible if you believe “ is total BULLSHIT!! It’s not, you can’t complete your assignments and study for that test and still have the pulsating energy for that party next door. So don’t go for it unless your brain says HELL YEAH!!LET’S DO IT!!

#4.PEOPLE HAVE EXPIRY DATES!!

Yea you heard me right...I said people not the can of soup that has been growing some sort of suspicious looking green stuff(which by the way you should stop hoarding!!).

Not worth it to-be stuck in a unkind, possessive , abusive, snarly ,jealous ,selfish…basically pick any word from Webster’s which associates itself with a generally unhappy state of mind relationship…those people should be dead to you by now.

IT’S TIME FOLKS!!IT’S TIME TO MOVE ON!!

Move on from friends who treat you like crap, from boyfriends who treat you like crap,from girlfriends who treat you like crap…you are not crap!!

No more abusive words, no more long sleeved sweaters to hide your black and blue skin, no more should you feel unloved, unwanted or undesired, no more lying and tears. Let’s not make our lives into a second production of sad soaps coz grass is definitely greener on this side of life where there’s only love, trust and respect and smiles from the very few who count.

So get off that curvalacious ass of yours, leave all that rotting people baggage behind for good with no guilt stricken conscience and start walking away while humming HAKUNA MATATA!!

#5.Dont strain those emotional brain muscles!!

Overanalysing?

Thinking so hard that you have that constipated vegetable look on your face? Sleepless nights? Heated discussions where you take advise from a gazillion other people who think they know what’s good for you?

Should I say yes to that guy?

Should I order that scrumplicious looking doughnut or go for that equally yummy cupcake?

Pink or blue?

STOP!!

As my dog-loving-only-chicken-eating(coz chickens don’t have brains)friend(after this maybe ex-friend) would say..go with your instincts!!

You’ll screw up! Probably the very next decision you take after this will turn out to be a hot mess and you’ll want to kill me but atleast you’ll know never to do it that way..I now know that I shouldn’t ever wear pink after a horribly etched in my memory photoshoot, prawns make me nauseous after the embarrassing barfing incident at an upscale Chinese restaurant ,I shouldn’t ever have anything to do with technology(I go in like god-freaking-zilla and I step on it or break it or submerge it…)

I’m never a 100% certain about my decisions but they’re mine and I take sole responsibility ,no blame games for me.I stopped overthinking, I go with the flow now, I’m impulsive and rash,I don’t agonize over things anymore and it’s made life SOOOOOO much easier, more time to add the I should never do this list.

I’d be lying if I said that I don’t think and take crappy advice AT ALL ,but I’m better, instead of spending a week now I take like two days.Hey, maybe I’ll get better one day...

#6.Love the hot boiling mess that you turn your life into!

YOU SCREWED UP??? What the hell is wrong with you? How could you mess this up? Weren’t you thinking straight??

Dudes and dudettes, I’d ask those same questions to the ones who don’t screw up and pack them off to the nearest loony bin.

It’s okay to screw up…it’s normal.

Everyone around you telling you to be a proactive fixer upper?

Being asked to take responsibility ?

To stop moping around and take action?

BACK OFF!!Those people are the emotionless Umbridges of life.

You messed up? Big fucking whoop!! You don’t have to pick yourself up, take all the blame, find a solution and make things right and still have the energy to carry on. If that was the case then I’d be able to do impossible things like solve the mystery behind the Bermuda triangle and lift Thor’s hammer, but there’s a reason why I don’t do these things, because they’re impossible!!

You let things go down to shit? Be upset, cry, bawl your eyes out, don’t talk to people, eat that monstrous bucket of chicken, do what you have to, feel better. You feel better now?

Pat yourself on the back and slowly pick yourself up from that slough of despair , surround yourself with friends who back you up no matter what and try to sort things out and if not then have the heart to let go and most importantly, even if you don’t fix things, FORGIVE YOURSELF.

REPEAT THE PROCESS AS AND WHEN NEEDED!!

#7.You feel it? Then show it!

Don’t ever hold back on what you’re feeling, let it all out.

SHOUT OUT AND CELEBRATE!!SQUEAL AND JUMP AROUND AND SMILE LIKE CRAZY AND CRY...

Embrace those happy moments!! Be excited, unreasonably so. Feel ungraciously happy, weak in your knees happy, fist pumping, bursting out of your seams happy. It’s okay to be happy.

CRY. Wring out those tear ducts, let those waves of sadness keep coming, heart breaking sobs, it’s okay to cry.

BE ANGRY.BE FURIOUS.SCREAM if you have to, throw things around, don’t hold back on what you have to say or do.(DO NOT DECAPITATE ANYONE)

Be ANYTHING you want to be, because the right ones who care will understand and they WILL stay.

Cut yourself some slack guys!!You’re worth every bit of love and all the cuddly puppies in the world. Forgive yourself. Hug yourself. Take time off. Stop chasing people and their dreams, start chasing your glittery dream, even if it’s to finally go get some milk from the grocery store or do some late spring cleaning or to land that long dreamt of position as chief editor and love love love and forgive forgive forgive, yourself and everything.

All this might not really unveil answers to the unsolved mysteries of the universe..where do all my pens keep disappearing or who ate the last cookie in the jar..but it helped me through a lot of shit, made me deal with life a lot better than before and made me fall in love with myself all over again, and maybe just maybe you might take up some of this or even smile and THAT my dears, even just a tiny smile will make ALL the difference.

#randomrants #livelovelaugh #loveyourself #forgive and forget #awesome #fearless #letitout

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October 19th, 2017 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on October 19th, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. The chat focused on Alethia by Kristina Stipetic.

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RebelVampire

Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing Alethia by Kristina Stipetic~! (http://alethia.kstipetic.com/index.html) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~!

With that said, let us begin with this first question~!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

Mharz

I'm here too!

RebelVampire

hey Mharz

Mharz

yay!

snuffysam

I am here as well

RebelVampire

welcome again @snuffysam ~!

Mharz

It's actually hard to choose there's so many good scenes here.

sskessa

ok i am here i have coffee

MathTans the Pun Prince

Given my tendency to veer towards humour, in terms of a favorite scene it would be when the weird Tetris block appeared, like whaaat. But speaking as an Educator a lot of the "it needs to make SENSE" from #5 rang true for me.

Also hullo. ^^

Mharz

LOOOOL that was funny!

RebelVampire

hi math and sskessa~!

snuffysam

#5 was probably my favorite chapter, at least

Mharz

like oh you're so good at this here's a nice big block. have fun!

MathTans the Pun Prince

The only way to trip up artificial intelligence.

RebelVampire

yeah i liked the random tetris block appearing. but also sympathized with the frustration cause i went through a tetris obsessed period and if the game rando dropped such a block on me id very much wtf

Mharz

Chapter 4 is my favorite so far

MathTans the Pun Prince

Getting sympathy from readers is good.

Mharz

I would've kicked the game.

but it's purpose is to make robots angry so pretty much the game is doing it's job well

Kabocha

Agreed, chapter 4 is DAMN GOOD. It was interesting to see how everyone moved to "ooph, yep, it's okay to let one robot be angry forever because why do we have to go through stress and frustration"

Mharz

yeaaahh

Kabocha

It felt like it was really a good commentary on how people are going to be lazy if they can feel like someone else is going to do the heavy lifting for them.

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, I need to stick with #5 as a whole being my fave, just because of the education perspective that I took to it. The idea of tests deciding who's good enough to move on and up in the world, and the idea that to be seen as special people just "game" the system, rather than really trying to understand the problems with it.

Mharz

every chapter has a good message.

snuffysam

And then how they moved to "eh, it's easier to just do our jobs than argue"

MathTans the Pun Prince

I have no idea how something that that could even be storyboarded. Impressed.

Mharz

at the same time they don't want to feel they're useless

RebelVampire

i really liked the art in chapter 4 because of how differently the oil was depicted. cause sometimes it could look benign and just kind of normal but then other images are just immensely spook and make it look like this terrible horror substance

Mharz

yeah

MathTans the Pun Prince

Actually, the "cheating the system" bit in #5 when Jun reprogrammed it made me think of James Kirk and the Kobyashi Maru "no win" situation.

Kabocha

only Jun was making the system work logically

MathTans the Pun Prince

Agreed, interesting art on that. Horror vibe but not to the extent that I was put off.

Kabocha

It takes a special kind of programmer to really eff up basic logic problems

MathTans the Pun Prince

Here's the thing though, the programmers must be machines, right? They're all machines there.

Kabocha

there's reference to the creators though

and we have NO idea who the creators are

MathTans the Pun Prince

Well, sure, you'd want to program something like that in.

snuffysam

My interpretation was that the system was designed that way intentionally- for whatever reason, making smart people think they're dumb was the creators' intention.

Mharz

Man seeing those source code in chapter 5 gave me nostalgia in my college days

MathTans the Pun Prince

Snuffy: Interesting. Like a vendetta or something.

RebelVampire

yeah i agree with the system was designed intentionally that way for reasons we cant yet comprehend.

Mharz

yeah

RebelVampire

cause all the cities seem to have a flaw of some sort

like a really big flaw that should not form naturally

Kabocha

could it be that over the course of running, each city ended up getting messed up?

MathTans the Pun Prince

Bad AC/DC conversion made some robots crazy.

Mharz

it was made messed up...

sskessa

i won't say anything unless you ask me directly

snuffysam

Maybe the creators just wanted to make a planet-wide factory (for silicon, oil, etc), so... they built sections with robots that could make those things and left them to it?

MathTans the Pun Prince

jumps 5 feet in the air An author! (and/or artist?)

Kabocha

Ahahahaha

Mharz

RebelVampire

breathe math, breathe

Mharz

She's the author

and the artist

MathTans the Pun Prince

I've been very jumpy lately.(edited)

sskessa

do not be alarmed

Kabocha

sskessa, why do they ship the dumbest robots off after Chapter 6? Mel seems to understand that they get sent out as they progress further along in their ignorance... Or is that spoiler territory?

I'm thinking they're sending them to another facility to do a thing, but what, I wonder

Mharz

oooh good one

sskessa

i have an answer and i don't know if it's spoilers, because i haven't decided how much info i'll put into the comic by the end.

MathTans the Pun Prince

If you send out your stupid people, you retain the smart ones.

snuffysam

How long are you planning on making the comic?

sskessa

maybe 10 years total. so far it's been 2 years

MathTans the Pun Prince

Dedication, woot.

RebelVampire

that is some extreme dedication. very impressive~!

Mharz

sskessa

i think by the end of the whole comic, you'll understand what's happening in chapter 5

MathTans the Pun Prince

Note that when you're shipping robots, you need to be careful they don't become trees.

Mharz

in 10 years

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

Chapter 5 is one of my favourites

snuffysam

I meant chapter-wise- but I suppose 10 years is around 30 chapters?

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

I have the first 5 books and I have Chapter 2 and 5 in my bag all the time and show them around to people(edited)

Mharz

I like how everyone is being referred to in female pronouns.

MathTans the Pun Prince

I'm also massively impressed that there's a whole opening sequence for the comic.

Mharz

OMG

MathTans the Pun Prince

Mharz: I didn't even totally pick up on that.

Mharz

I LIKE THAT VIDEO

yeah I've noticed it

since chapter 1 everyone refers to everyone as "her" and "she"

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, no, I'm realizing it as you say it in retrospect.

sskessa

it seems like a lot of people have overlooked it, but it's true. everyone is female

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

Got to poof out becuase I got to do something but I love sskessa's stuff so much

Literally read and bought the books on the same day

MathTans the Pun Prince

I suppose with them being kind of naked that eliminates the need to draw male bits, uhm.

Mharz

AWESOME

MathTans the Pun Prince

(Do robots have those?)

snuffysam

They're also robots. So... that's not an issue regardless

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

Yeah I love the fact they are all robots too

snuffysam

Heh exactly

Mharz

I mean one lays egg so there's a possibility?

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

So it makes things really transparent

Superjustin of Time and Space

Hello!

Mharz

in case there are male robots

snuffysam

Were the people in chapter 1 robots? I wasn't quite sure...

MathTans the Pun Prince

Male robot is needed to make queen.

Superjustin of Time and Space

Wait

Mharz

Not in the first chapter tho

Superjustin of Time and Space

Robots can breed in this universe?

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, when the one ripped off the tail there were electronic parts.

Even in Cahpter 1.

sskessa

all the characters in all chapters so far have been robots. the green ones in chapter 1 were just very early designs

Mharz

oooooh

Superjustin of Time and Space

Oh lol

Kabocha

I dunno that I'd call it breeding

snuffysam

Cool cool

Kabocha

synthesizing perhaps

MathTans the Pun Prince

Robots breed by becoming trees.

Mharz

yeah that's the more appropriate term

Superjustin of Time and Space

I agree

MathTans the Pun Prince

They're synthesizers. plays music

Mharz

LOL MATH

Kabocha

not the midi kind

RebelVampire

im curious about the fact that the robots feel pain. like particularly in the first chapter, why would you design it so a robot feels pain when synthesizing?

sskessa

snuffysam

The chapter 2 specific robots reproduced by becoming trees though. Chapter 3's were made on an assembly line.

Mharz

all the robots have emotions tho

Kabocha

I dunno that I'd call it pain too much either; it's just electrical impulses that their systems might not have a great way of processing

snuffysam

That does raise a question of what the creators' intentions were...

Mharz

yeah

MathTans the Pun Prince

Does the protagonist? She's seemed pretty emotionless. (Granted, creepy teeth sometimes which makes her look sort of upset, but she's very logical.)

RebelVampire

well technically all human pain is just electrical impulses processed by the brain

Kabocha

(I'm being pedantic okay)

Mharz

Kabocha

I guess what I'm getting at is the pain is more like an interrupt though, or just an unexpected input from a not-great design

Mharz

it might be possible that Jun hasn't comprehended it yet since she has just been repaired.

Kabocha

Jun, quick, become an electrical engineer!

RebelVampire

thats a fairer way to put it

i think jun has emotions tho to a degree. i mean in the sixth chapter she does say "don't abandon me" which thats kind of reflective of an emotion

Mharz

yeah

Superjustin of Time and Space

Yeah

Oh of course I would yeah to a prior post

MathTans the Pun Prince

I suppose. She also grew a tail, I think. I'm not quite sure where that's going.

Superjustin of Time and Space

Thanks Discord mobile for not scrolling down

snuffysam

Yeah she seemed pretty attached to her friend in Chapter 2 (to the point where she's afraid of someone leaving her again in chapter 6)

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

I also love that the name came from the location of where names are extremely important

Mharz

and she was concerned when Mel was crying and that she might turn into a tree like camphor

MathTans the Pun Prince

Snuffy: Good point on that callback.

Mharz

tho I found those lines a bit funny. sorry.

"Don't cry! You might turn into a tree!"

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, it was the reaction to the tree thing that was funny. Like, tree, whatchootalkinbout?

Kabocha

sskessa -- do the names have any actual importance, or are they randomly assigned characters?

(like, does the string eventually indicate that there is a function or assignment for that?)

sskessa

the names from chapter 5 are randomly assigned, alternating between consonant and vowel

RebelVampire

yeah i agree the tree bit was also sort of funny cause of course mel doesnt know wtf that means

Kabocha

Aaaah, okay

MathTans the Pun Prince

Is Y a vowel? ^.^

sskessa

but "jun" has a personal meaning to me and i intended to name her that since the beginning

Mharz

and Jun probably got an assumption that robots turn into trees when they cry because that's what happened to the first robot she saw crying

MathTans the Pun Prince

I feel like I want to put an 'e' on the end of the name. ^.^

snuffysam

I think the story structure is interesting. Chapters 2-5 had basically no callbacks to earlier chapters (except Jun's goal of making the cities more efficient). Suddenly, Chapter 6 has a bunch, with the first character carrying over between chapters, and referencing the turning into a tree.

(besides Jun, who carries over every chapter)

Mharz

I really like how they were all stand-alone

well almost(edited)

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, I'm reminded of some of those old TV shows where you have the central character (like Columbo or Kojak or whatever) and the entire cast around them is different. So it doesn't really matter where you start reading/watching.

Kabocha

I think the callbacks in Chapter 6 were appropriate, though, since Jun had someone to carry that over with. It's also a good reminder of what came before, too.

RebelVampire

QUESTION 2. Alethia features a world where scattered groups of robots all live together functioning in different ways. While it is clear that the robots had creators of some sort, they are nowhere to be found. Why were the robots created in the first place? How did the world get to be the way it is? Why do the robots live so scattered even though some areas seem to have transportation to and from different places? What was the original purpose of each factory city?(edited)

Kabocha

insufficient data

RebelVampire

MathTans the Pun Prince

It's all happening in their minds.

snuffysam

Was it a planet-wide factory? Some sort of social experiment by the creators? Only time will tell, I think...

Mharz

pretty sure whoever the creator is they didn't program the robots to have knowledge of the outside

or they probably have

but they never consider leaving(edited)

MathTans the Pun Prince

What I'm kinda wondering about it who maintains the power station(s). And who built THAT (them).

Mharz

ooor they have limited capabilities

snuffysam

The robots in chapter 5 knew there was a world outside their city

Mharz

cus camphor can only take 800 steps before running out of batteries

MathTans the Pun Prince

Well yes. So different power systems but there seems to be compatability.

RebelVampire

i think all the robots besides the tree ones know. cause i recall there being a few other times jun arrived and the robots were like "oh we dont usually see outsiders"(edited)

snuffysam

The robots in chapter 2 knew there was a vast world, but they couldn't visit it.

MathTans the Pun Prince

(Are there AC and DC robots?)

Mharz

oh yeah that's true

Kabocha

Each city seems to explore an aspect of humanity or society and the contradictions with each theme. You have a group that's expected to rely on one person to continue to carry on the future, even at great personal pain. You have another group that's expected to pair up, but... I mean, not everyone wants to do that! Come on. (Poor Camphor, though.) Another yet is willing to shunt the work on another person -- teamwork and loyalty gone awry. And then another is willing to forgo actual learning in favor of passing a test.

Mharz

poor camphor

RebelVampire

yeah part of me wonders if the creators are doing this as a huge social experiment

Mharz

-_-

snuffysam

(and the robots in chapter 3, which create separate social castes based on something completely arbitrary)

RebelVampire

to see which society functions best

MathTans the Pun Prince

I dunno, camphor didn't seem good at seeing the big picture. Like, upon finding out that everyone was trying to keep her there, she just said she'd leave.

Mharz

bottomline is not all systems are perfect.

snuffysam

Chapter 4 is especially interesting, because the major "flaw" only came up recently.

MathTans the Pun Prince

True. No system is really.

Kabocha

I kinda read the tree city as being a sorta high-level commentary on sexual expectations in society without going there? Camphor strikes me as wanting to do their own thing, and was essentially the only person in the society that was ace, but being pressured into pairing off. ...I dunno, each chapter sticks with you in a different way and the interpretation's gonna be pretty subjective.

Chapter 4 felt like a giant "fuck you" to most workplaces loooool

sskessa

you can use female pronouns for all the characters

MathTans the Pun Prince

Okay, related to the recent question, crazy theory time about "Robots had creators".... Jun is one of the creators. She was cast out and had her memory taken because she didn't agree with the creators any more. Or possibly she volunteered, in order to see if the systems they all put in place were working and didn't want to be biased by knowing them.

Kabocha

(oh crap, it's already 8:30 and we haven't had any crazy conspiracy theories about teh plot yet)

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, definitely subjective interpretations for some of it. That's an interesting one though, Kabocha.

snuffysam

Nothing crazy yet, no. We have had some theories.

MathTans the Pun Prince

(Jun's a SPY I tell you... deep undercover.)

snuffysam

"Jun is one of the creators" makes as much sense as anything else...

What are your thoughts on the tail?

Kabocha

Long live the queen? :3

snuffysam

Yeah, I'm thinking it's a callback to chapter 1 in some capacity...

sskessa

haha, you're the second person to suggest that

RebelVampire

jun is clearly just going through robot puberty

sskessa

should i keep quiet wrt to theories?

snuffysam

yeah probably

MathTans the Pun Prince

Up to you, sskessa.

It'll be on the web later.

sskessa

alright, i'll keep quiet. you'll find out everything eventually

RebelVampire

yeah these chats do get archived and the chat history is always readable

but its largely up to you

weve had chats with spoilers, had some with no spoilers

MathTans the Pun Prince

The tail is to help with swimming, obvs.

Kabocha

Oh no, the next city is a water level

MathTans the Pun Prince

Better call a plumber.

RebelVampire

actually

thatd be interesting if that was the reason somehow

that there was adaption for the city coming up

and somehow a tail was needed

MathTans the Pun Prince

bows

(good spin)

snuffysam

she was pretty broken when the chapter 1 robots found her. maybe this is self-repair?

Kabocha

Jun is slowly changing each chapter, hehe

She's truly an admirable AI

MathTans the Pun Prince

I feel like she had enough power previously to do evolution though. So why trigger it now?

snuffysam

distance from her home?

MathTans the Pun Prince

Oh, sskessa, in case I forget to ask later - Chinese translation, is that you? It's an interesting language choice.

Snuffy: Fair point.

Could be getting close to home with the other creators.

Mharz

What I missed? Our power went out

RebelVampire

you missed the secrets of life being revealed

sorry Mharz

Mharz

Dang

MathTans the Pun Prince

Jun is actually an acquatic goddess.

Kabocha

Don't worry, it was only applicable to robots

Mharz

That's not Jun's final form

sskessa

the chinese translation is done by my friend, but i read over it and give feedback

MathTans the Pun Prince

That's neat.

sskessa

we discuss the subtleties of all the word choices, so everything in the chinese translation is definitely intentional

Kabocha

That's neat though

Mharz

power's back woo!

MathTans the Pun Prince

I would think the "characters in a name" thing would translate differently.

sskessa

haha, well, it was very important to me that her name be "jun" so i had to keep the latin letters

Mharz

interesting

MathTans the Pun Prince

That's fair.

sskessa

this isn't a spoiler, she is named after my favorite singer, jun togawa.

Mharz

ooooh

MathTans the Pun Prince

With synthesizer backup...

Mharz

jun and mel will make a band

snuffysam

@sskessa, in the animated OP- how much direction did you give Ann Mendenhall? With regards to referencing future events, for instance.

thanks discord, that's totally what i wanted after the @ symbol

MathTans the Pun Prince

Spice Girls, Unplugged.

sskessa

hm....i believe it was $1000

i had a sponsor

Mharz

whoa

that's so cool

MathTans the Pun Prince

O.o

Mharz

the she animated everything herself?(edited)

snuffysam

whoa dang

sskessa

i told someone about my project and he gave me the money for it, i gave it to ann. she animated everything single-handedly. i drew the backgrounds

snuffysam

did you give her storyboards or something?

sskessa

sometimes, yes.

Mharz

kudos to her

it's very well made

sskessa

she is very good, you can commission her :3

Mharz

I wish I have the money

I can do it myself but I really just don't have the time and patience

snuffysam

it was certainly worth it. the OP got me hooked

sskessa

for example, i gave her this reference for the tower

snuffysam

oh neat

Mharz

oh wow that's cool

how long did she take to animate everything?

sskessa

a year

Mharz

omg

well it's very well made so it's worth it

:' D

RebelVampire

QUESTION 3. This comic deals with a lot heavy themes concerning collectivism, individuality, guilt, forgiveness, peer pressure, and much more. Which theme and story resonated with you the most and why? What other sorts of storylines and themes do you think are possible? Are there any characters you think it’d be interesting to see again? What do you think the comic’s overall theme and/or message is?

sskessa

haha, it's not like anyone knew we were making it, so no pressure to rush

Mharz

I totally salute her.

sskessa

listens intently to the answers to this question

Mharz

is thinking...

MathTans the Pun Prince

As a teacher, for me it's still got to be #5. With the assuming books are right and not doing proper thinking, or in the one case needing to understand the REASONING, which I always tell students is SO key, like, don't just memorize an algorithm. But there it's taken to the extreme, looking for reason in something that has no system of logic.

Or a continually changing system of logic anyway.

I'm reminded of a Janway quote, "You can use logic to justify almost anything. That is its power, and its flaw."(edited)

Mharz

not all truths can be found in books.

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

I love the backwards logic of Chapter 5

Some of it is really funny

sskessa

part of it was inspired by reading someone in a reddit debate say "circular reasoning doesn't bother me"

Mharz

that is some twisted logic

MathTans the Pun Prince

The math teacher in me is screaming.

snuffysam

The comic so far seems to have a theme of "people will let their emotions/biases lead them to make irrational decisions"?

MathTans the Pun Prince

As far as other themes, I could see addressing keeping something for sentimentality reasons even though it has no "practical" purpose. Or maybe even a "hoarder" issue, like someone who just collects a bunch of stuff not really for any reason. Not sure where one might take that though, would need to be careful.

snuffysam

Though that could change as Jun's worldview changes in the coming chapters

Ooh, good one

RebelVampire

snuffysam: i like that as an overall interpretation for the comic

seems pretty accurate

MathTans the Pun Prince

Bias would keep anyone in business forever. There's so many of them.

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

Also the best part of that statment

because they are robots

Robots usually are the most logical things when people think about them

MathTans the Pun Prince

ALL the bias, in wheel form. (credit at the bottom)

Mharz

Some knowledge and beliefs we have came from our environment and peers

sskessa

wow beautiful

snuffysam

Question is- in situations like Chapter 3, was it somebody's idea to split up the classes of robots, or was that the creators' design?

RebelVampire

i think for me its also #5 that stuck with me the most because of the themes of peer pressure and blind adherance. like the ending to the chapter hit me really hard. cause i liked all the touch about education and books not being right etc. but what hit me is that mel was right and that for mel it was like watching a train wreck happening and being unable to do that. and i felt thats a good parallel for what life sometimes feels like. where we can see the inevitable outcome of something for a person or a society, and yet there is absolutely nothing we can do because norms prevent others from fully embracing differing perspectives.

Mharz

yeah

I can relate to that too

MathTans the Pun Prince

Good one.

Maybe creators put in contingency plans, Snuffys?

sskessa

@RebelVampire that's definitely what i was thinking about when i wrote it. thinking about friends of mine

Mharz

like I was trying to figure out the logic within a certain book but peers just keep telling to just believe it just like that withoug any concrete proof as to why.

RebelVampire

yeah but to be fair, all knowledge exists only because we agree on the answers. so in a sense education will always have a sense of peer pressure in only believing the most accepted thing

MathTans the Pun Prince

2+2 = 5

Kabocha

in certain cases where you have a float error....

Mharz

no math

MathTans the Pun Prince

Rootbeer float error. "2" is too large.

Kabocha

2 is perfect what are you talking about

Mharz

2 is a company 3 is a crowd

MathTans the Pun Prince

Actually 6 is the first perfect number. Divisors are 1, 2, 3 and 1+2+3 = 6.

It's a real thing. So are friendly numbers.

sskessa

so with that in mind, sometimes the only way to escape peer pressure, which is not always consciously recognized, is to physically leave a group of people

MathTans the Pun Prince

sskessa: Good point. Which is hard when we want to fit in somewhere.

Mharz

oh yes definitely

I mean I agree to you both

sskessa

oh, 2+2=5 is a theme in "notes from underground"

snuffysam

It's also why it's so interesting that Lak chose to stay behind.

sskessa

to answer the question myself, the next story arc is going to be the one that is the most personal to me so far.

MathTans the Pun Prince

There. Are. Four. Lights. (Okay, now I've referenced original series, Voyager and TNG. Can I get the others in?)(edited)

snuffysam

Looking forward to it!

RebelVampire

oh that sounds exciting

Kabocha

What's the general synopsis, sskessa~?

(of the arc)

sskessa

@MathTans the Pun Prince XD

MathTans the Pun Prince

About friendship, maybe? Given there's two of them now.

RebelVampire

i wonder if the robots will know how to "fix" the fix jun used in chapter 5. or if they will actually have to have correct answers now. cause jun's fix was so simple unless you had looked at the code before you might miss that single punctuation that changes everything

Mharz

forgot a semi-colon, got 1000 errors

trust me I can relate

sskessa

mel and jun arrive in the movie factory and meet the most famous actress of robot world (who you've seen before). jun does not understand the function of movies. we meet the "underground robot," the most unpopular robot in the movie factory who writes anti-literature. the character is my personal response to dostoyevsky's "notes from underground"

a book which i have very mixed feelings about

Mharz

weren't mel watching a movie in the transport thing?(edited)

sskessa

yes

snuffysam

and they had movies in chapter 4

Mharz

oooh

snuffysam

very interested to see where that goes!

Kabocha

oooh! :3 So the actress is one they saw in that movie, then?

RebelVampire

QUESTION 4. Jun, as the main character comes to be named, is on a mission to travel from city to city and correct their inefficiencies. However, there remains many questions about Jun in regards to this. Who created Jun and for what purpose? Is Jun’s mission a result of free-will or is it something driven by underlying programming? Should Jun even be fixing the cities, or would it be better if Jun left them the way they are? What do you think will be Jun’s ultimate fate?

sskessa

@Kabocha yes, and she is the main character of the next arc.

snuffysam

So far, it seems Jun's goal is just the result of something someone in chapter 3 suggested.

maybe that was her remembering her true purpose?

Mharz

I think Jun weren't meant to do that but after what happened to camphor, somehow triggered her to go and fix the cities.

snuffysam

for the most part, she seems to just be exploring. the only reason she keeps fixing cities is because they're all broken.

MathTans the Pun Prince

Jun will meet herself. If you travel far enough, you meet yourself, and that's totally possible with robots.

Mharz

and she did get the idea of "evaluating efficiency" on chapter 3

RebelVampire

i feel like that is kind of her purpose tbh, to evaluate efficiency. which makes the next arc very interesting cause from a practical standpoint movies dont really have purpose. i mean they arguably further culture, but from a productive standpoint they dont have a point(edited)

snuffysam

Mel watches movies. perhaps she will (attempt to) convince Jun of their worth...

Mharz

will she understand the sense of it tho

MathTans the Pun Prince

She'll be the new star. Paid in batteries. Much usefulness.

RebelVampire

jun will learn to have fun O_O go to cool robot starlet pool parties

Mharz

maybe at the end, jun will have full human emotions

sorry I'm dumb

snuffysam

thats what the tail is for. pool parties!

Mharz

omg

sskessa

laughs but you know...i already think she does

have full emotions XD because i am also a very dry person

Mharz

she does but she hasn't realized it fully

MathTans the Pun Prince

That doesn't sound dumb.

Like, having something to be building towards in terms of understanding emotions. I have emotions, doens't mean I always understand them, like why am I crying at a certain point.

Mharz

sskessa

that's a fair point

Mharz

maybe she'll fall in love with someone

sskessa

she already fell in love, back in chapter 3

MathTans the Pun Prince

She'll meet herself then fall in love with herself.

Mharz

MathTans the Pun Prince

A bit curious about her design, incidentally. Different from the other robots. Wider legs, for one thing. Wonder if that means something.

sskessa

what? isn't it normal to be aroused by beautiful abstract concepts? maybe it's just me

snuffysam

Jun efficiency

sskessa

exactly.

snuffysam

OTP

Mharz

sskessa

seriously though, i want her to have a girlfriend at some point. if i can manage to write it well.

MathTans the Pun Prince

I personify mathematics functions as cute females, so I'm the wrong person to ask.

Kabocha

I think however you write it, it'll be fine RebelVampire

to be fair as someone who also likes to find the most efficient way possible to do things, i cant blame jun for falling in love with efficiency XD

Mharz

yeah

MathTans the Pun Prince

Will they ever meet a non-female robot, I wonder. (Not necessarily male.)

sskessa

Mharz

that's interesting

snuffysam

now i'm curious- is there a reason you decided on an all-female world?

Kabocha

They're robots

MathTans the Pun Prince

Females are better, but aside from that.

sskessa

got tired of reading about male characters

snuffysam

fair enough

Mharz

I somehow can relate

not that I have anything against male characters

snuffysam

now that i think about it, pretty much everything i've written or drawn over the past couple years has a female lead...

for basically the same reason

Mharz

I love female leads

MathTans the Pun Prince

I just prefer females. Why would I write about males, I am one, that's not so interesting to me.

Mharz

I love female leads

If you can't tell yet.

MathTans the Pun Prince

The site navigation is interesting too, just to mention it. Having all the strips laid out on one page, scrolling down, rather than page to page to page. Took a while to load, but then could read a lot at once.

I love female lead love.

Mharz

RebelVampire

yeah i like that the scrolldown format for each chapter kind of emphasizes their connected but individual storylines

sskessa

yes, so, the corollary to all characters being female means all characters are lesbians

snuffysam

Navigating between chapters is a bit of a pain. As far as I can tell, the only way to do so is to go back to the chapter list?

sskessa

hm. good point. i will put a "next chapter" button at the bottom of each chapter

Mharz

oh yes please.

snuffysam

Thanks!

Mharz

I did have to scroll back up to get to the next chapter

MathTans the Pun Prince

I just hit my "back" button.

snuffysam

...your browser doesn't have a back button?

lol

sskessa

as for that format, i did my last comic as single-page navigation and it always took so long to load. this way you can leave the comic to load for 5 minutes and then read it all at once

snuffysam

no yeah, that part's great

Mharz

a chapters list and next/previous chapter at the bottom should suffice(edited)

snuffysam

honestly a next button alone would be fine for most purposes. but more is better in this case, i think.

sskessa

will do

Mharz

in case you want to get back at something

MathTans the Pun Prince

The layout's good too on individual pages, works with the scroll down format.

Mharz

I kinda had to go back to chapter 1 to verify if Jun had a tail initially

sskessa

i will try to clear up the tail question in the next arc. i don't intend it to be too mysterious

Mharz

I just like to think that she's evolving into a final form

Respheal

o_o -goes back to chapter 1 to see if there's a tail- (Also hiiiiiiii popping in late)

snuffysam

her head isn't enough of a trash can yet

Mharz

no she doesn't

snuffysam

hi Respheal!

Respheal

Okay xD Was doubting my memory there

Mharz

oh trust me that was me last night too

like "wait, did she have a tail?" O_O

sskessa

hi!

MathTans the Pun Prince

It's not a tail, it's the start of a third leg. ^.^ (Actually, yeah, all the robots look human-ish. Which helps to relate to them, though I wonder if we'll run into a place where they don't.)

"Why do you have two heads?" "Why don't you?"

Mharz

the queen isn't

I mean she looks like an adorable dinosaur

MathTans the Pun Prince

True that.

Mharz

with a badass spiky hair

(edited)

Kabocha

They are probably designed to better imitate their creators

snuffysam

of course, we don't know the creators are human

they could just be more robots

MathTans the Pun Prince

Their creator... V'ger! (Okay, no more Trek references.)

snuffysam

robots all the way down

Mharz

Kabocha

recursive robots

RebelVampire

but somewhere down the line thered be non machine based life. cause machine based life doesnt just pop up from nothing

its called manmade for a reason

Mharz

yeah

MathTans the Pun Prince

Beats cursive robots. Walking around like @(#(@#.

Mharz

LOOOL

Kabocha

Shh, the creators clearly had a design in mind

RebelVampire

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