#while B2W2 just gives you a Zorua

[authoratmidnight]

youtube recced me some video about how Gen 5 was the best ever or something and I am HOWLING b/c ya'll would have fucking crucified it if it came out now.

Like, ya'll crucify them for something as minimal as *checks notes* how a tree looks or the multiplayer connectivity function.

Ya'll hated Sun and Moon's Festival Plaza with a *passion*, there's no way Join Avenue-which you are forced into doing the first time you pass through-would not have gotten away unscathed.

And, can you IMAGINE if Game Freak released a game now, and we discovered that an entire evolution line, of a new, regular pokemon in the regional dex, was effectively locked behind events from previous games that had ended BEFORE the new game dropped? Can you fucking imagine?? You'd be at GameFreak's door with pitchforks and torches calling for their heads if they did that now.

But oh it was totally fine for Gen 5 to do it. In an era where it was much harder to do WiFi events (cause you either had to go to a certain place or hope your wifi was compatible with the game/system).

And the fact that it was all new pokemon, no old pokemon (at least till post game or unless you transferred them in) would have pissed people off.

Not to mention how all the designs I hear people bitch about (Kling line, Trubbish line, Vanillite line, to name a few) are all from this gen as well. Like, are we *sure* you liked this gen? really?

Everyone got the worst double standards and it's laughable.

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☀️random dumb things the writer recently thought about and/or realised (but it’s all related to the bw anime)

(Read more because this is so long)

— I always hated Burgundy for some reason when I was younger- and my blurry ass memory made me think it was probably about her hating Cilan so much but when I actually went back to the episode she was introduced in, I remembered exactly why I hated her.

She was kinda mean to Ash’s Oshawott. That was the literal reason I hated her so much for so many years. I apologise Burgundy, my dumb child brain just really liked that Oshawott.

— Georgia’s occupation really confused me and honestly still does. You’re telling me that you’ve made it your LIFE GOAL to chase down and defeat just Dragon-type trainers so much so that you literally call yourself ‘the Dragon Buster’? What the fuck happened to you. Did Dragon-types kill your grandma

The only positive I can genuinely give her is that she was understanding to Bianca confusing her with a Zorua multiple times, which seems like a low bar but anything can be somewhat redeeming for them. Plus she’s still around the same age as Ash and Iris, so it’s not like it’s really that bad. There’s definitely been worse.

— Bianca… confused me. Even now I’m still a little confused but I will never understand why they kept Bianca a rival character but still made Cheren into his b2w2 counterpart. I guess Trip was just sort of a stand-in for rival Cheren? But that still doesn’t really explain the exact timeline for the actual show. It’s mid-b2w2 based on the actual events after Cheren was introduced (and never seen again) as N is introduced the episode after— but it’s also not because the gym leaders that stepped down by b2w2 are still running their gyms, if not obvious by Lenora and Brycen— then by Cilan, Cress and Chili. They don’t even step down at the end of the bw anime— it’s just that Cilan goes on his own journey and bumps into Ash a few times afterwards. What time are we in??

— Burgh’s gym is ENTIRELY different in the anime. Not even just to the point where it’s simply that there’s no challenge— the LAYOUT ITSELF is different. No honey walls. No web stuff.. it’s just a big terrarium. Like, his gym wasn’t the only one that changed when brought into the anime but I don’t think any changed nearly as drastically.

— Lenora. Beautiful, stunning, no notes.

— I, for a long while, thought Elesa and Cynthia were the same character. Younger me saw two tall blonde women and thought ‘yeah. they’re the same.’ To the point that I thought moments from when Cynthia showed up in the bw anime were part of Elesa’s episode.

— Skyla, first cannons in the gameplay of your gym and then making decisions on whether a challenger would beat you based on their Pokémon’s weaknesses isn’t that bad.. but outright denial of their badge based on that? what did they do to you girl,,,

— I comically do not remember any of the scenes with Clay, Brycen or Marlon. I don’t know why— maybe those episodes are on the disc I currently can’t find?? I also don’t remember any of Drayton’s battle but I do remember him in Iris’s flashbacks.

— Ingo and Emmet canonically naruto running.

— Stephan getting his name constantly mispronounced is so sad, I actually really liked him. Give my boy justice.

— Cress’s stupid posh accent in contrast to Chili and Cilan’s is so dumb. Idiot thinks he sounds cool, clearly. /lhj

— SEVERE LACK OF E4 MEMBERS!!! An exchange between Ash and Grimsley would’ve been so stupid but the entire bw series was ALREADY STUPID!

I have no other thoughts that require shouting into the abyss so just have this from when I was trying to check something on Bianca’s bulbapedia page

[oppressiveliberator]

(TE information is only used once and are mostly often written in the voice of the character. FC questions may be repeated or omitted, and are from any dialogue or external sources like books or signs. You can check out Bulbapedia for the in-game text of the Trainer’s Eye or Fame Checker to see how it looks!) (like HTML? Here’s a pastebin link.)

TRAINER’S EYE

Trainer: Team Plasma Leader Sage Ghetsis Harmonia Gropius

Location: Unknown, presumably Unova

Strategy: It's unfortunate that we must fight at all, wouldn't you say? The harder you hit them, the harder they'll hit others. Discipline is the most masterful teacher. N/A

Favorite Pokémon: All of them deserve better than we've given them. They'll all obey me in time. The bigger their appetite and the more difficult to train they were, the more I'd enjoy them when I was young. But they're all tools. They all leave. It hardly matters.

Trainer Message: Just you wait. Wherever it is you came from, however it is you got here. . .I suppose I appreciate the company.

Fame Checker

Family and friends? Concordia(Pkmn B2W2, Driftveil City): "N was an orphan. I heard that right after he was born, he upset people with behavior that suggested he could talk to Pokémon. When he was living in the woods with Darmanitan and Zorua, Ghetsis took him in. We are also orphans Ghetsis took in."

What is this person like? Shadow Triad(Pkmn B2W2, Giant Chasm): "Lord Ghetsis has. . .lost control. . ."

What is this person like? Shadow Triad(Pkmn B2W2, Icirrus City): “Ghetsis won't do anything anymore. . . No, to be more precise, he can't do anything anymore. . ."

What does this person do? Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, Accumula Town): "I am here representing Team Plasma. Today, ladies and gentlemen, I would like to talk to you about Pokémon liberation."

What is this person like? / What does this person do? Concordia(Pkmn BW, N's Castle): "Pokémon that were betrayed, mistreated, and hurt by bad people. . . Ghetsis deliberately brought only those poor Pokémon closer to N." 

What is this person like? / What does this person do? Anthea(Pkmn B2W2, Driftveil City): "The one he groomed to help him further his nefarious aims was N."

What is this person like? Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, Accumula Town): "Pokémon are subject to the selfish commands of Trainers. . . They get pushed around when they are our "partners" at work. . . Can anyone say with confidence that there is no truth in what I'm saying?"

What does this person do? Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, Driftveil City): "We only free Pokémon from wicked people."

What does this person do? Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, Driftveil City): "Don't worry, my fellow servant of the king. . . We are two of the Seven Sages, are we not?"

Family and Friends? / What is this person like? Ryoku(Pkmn BW, Relic Castle): "But we don't know much about Ghetsis or our lord N! We haven't even figured out if they are father and son. . ."

Family and Friends? / What is this person like? Shadow Triad(Pkmn BW, Marvelous Bridge): "Ghetsis is gone. He went off somewhere alone after we rescued him from the castle." "From the day Ghetsis saved our lives, we have sworn to be loyal to him. Even now, after he ordered us not to search for him.[...]" "We, the Shadow Triad, have always been and will always be the loyal servants of Ghetsis. And Ghetsis's ambitions will never cease!"

What is this person like? Shadow Triad(Pkmn B2W2, Giant Chasm): "Lord Ghetsis spoke of Pokémon liberation two years ago simply for his own ambitions, but. . .if his plans had succeeded, many Pokémon would have been saved."

What is this person like? Ghetsis(Pkmn B2W2, Plasma Frigate): "How fortunate for you! Few get to be the sole audience member for one of my speeches."

What is this person like? / What does this person do? Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, Relic Castle): "I'm doing this out of kindness. Yes, kindness. I'm making sure the Champion doesn't get hurt for no reason. Granted, the moment when someone loses all hope. . .I really do love to watch that moment."

Family and friends? Ghetsis(Pkmn USUM, Episode RR): "It wouldn't do at all to have you get in [Giovanni's] way, especially when I must establish him as my king!"

Family and friends? Ghetsis(Pkmn USUM, Episode RR): "The Colress of this world! But you should have no reason to meddle in my plans!"

Where was this person born? (Map description of Abyssal Ruins in eastern Unovan sea): "An ancient tomb that is said to be the resting place of an ancient king." (inscription on 4F of Abyssal ruin's walls. The name of the king is represented in-game as "●●●●●●●●", the same number of letters as 'HARMONIA', Ghetsis and N's surname, leading to speculation that Ghetsis and/or N are descendants of the ancient king of Unova, further supported by other inscriptions in the ruins): "The great King 𝕳𝕬𝕽𝕸𝕺𝕹𝕴𝕬"

What is this person like? Shadow Triad(Pkmn BW, Marvelous Bridge): "Ghetsis. . . Where did he find these? What was he planning to do with them? Why did he give them to you? There's no way to know now. Is he testing you? Or. . .using you?"

What is this person like? Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, N's Castle): "I created Team Plasma with my own hands. I'm absolutely perfect! I AM PERFECTION! I am the perfect ruler of a perfect new world! "Mwa ha ha! Since I couldn't become the hero and obtain the legendary Pokémon myself. . .I prepared someone for that purpose--N! He's nothing more than a freak without a human heart. Do you think you're going to get through to a warped person like that!?"

What is this person like? / Family and friends? Rood(Pkmn BW, Route 18): "Ghetsis wandered the lands of this world all over, collecting knowledge of all kinds while searching for like-minded people. From the moment we met, he understood what I desired."

What is this person like? / Family and friends? Zinzolin(Pkmn BW, Cold Storage): ". . .Breathing. Having a heart that beats. That is simple existence and nothing more for a living being. That may be the definition of living, but I don't think that defines life. The experiences of joy and suffering are a vital part of being alive. Ghetsis gave me the sensation of being truly alive. . . What did he mean to accomplish? That isn't important."

What is this person like? / What does this person do? Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, Tubeline Bridge): "From his infancy, I provided [N] with the education required to become the hero of legend. Indeed, he has been so acknowledged by the legendary Pokémon. . . .Such purity of purpose is his."

Favorite kind of Pokémon? Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, N's Castle): "Use your head. What's to be gained from letting go of useful things like Pokémon? Certainly, manipulating Pokémon helps people expand their possibilities. That much, I can agree with. So it naturally follows that only I should be able to use Pokémon!"

Favorite kind of Pokémon? Ghetsis(Pkmn B2W2, Plasma Frigate): "Kyurem is an empty being. The remnants of a certain Pokémon when it split into Reshiram and Zekrom. . . My desire is absolute rule of Unova! That's right! Kyurem will be the vessel into which my desires will be poured!"

Favorite kind of Pokémon? Ghetsis(Pkmn B2W2, Plasma Frigate): "What's this? Your Poké Balls are trembling. Could your Pokémon be trembling with rage? (slams cane) No! That's not possible! Simple tools don't have emotion or thought!"

Family and friends? Ryoku(Pkmn BW, Relic Castle): "I was planning to catch the Pokémon called Volcarona that lives in this relic castle and present it to Ghetsis. But the Shadow Triad said that Ghetsis has gone somewhere, right? The Seven Sages. . . We always said we were complete when the seven of us were together. Now I don't know the meaning of those words anymore. I guess I don't mind, even if we were being used"

What does this person do? Zinzolin(Pkmn B2W2, Undella Town): "I have papers that Lord Ghetsis left behind. With these, you can read the ancient scripts in the Abyssal Ruins."

What does this person do? Rood(Pkmn B2W2, Route 6): "So the reach of Ghetsis's ambition and malice is growing ever wider and warping the lives of all it touches. . ."

What is this person like? / What does this person do? Ghetsis(Pkmn USUM, Episode RR): "You see, I have been thinking long and hard about the reason I have been sent to this world. And now. . .I believe I finally have the answer! My purpose. . . It is to travel between the worlds, freeing all Pokémon from foolish people. . . And at the same time, consolidate all the power in all the worlds to myself! "In order to achieve this beautiful ideal, however, I have need of a useful pawn. . . And that man, the leader of Team Rocket, is a man of pure evil! If I can make good use of him, and set him up as king, I shall be able to reign supreme above all existence!"

Family and Friends? / What is this person like? Giallo(Pkmn BW, N's Castle): "Ghetsis called us the chosen ones. He chose us and gathered us here so we can change the world!"

Family and Friends? / What is this person like? Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, N's Castle): "After all of that, do you think you're still worthy of sharing the name Harmonia with me? You good-for-nothing boy! [...] "After saying you had to put your beliefs on the line and battle to see which one chosen by the legendary Pokémon was the true hero. . . You lost to an ordinary Trainer! There is such a thing as being too stupid! Add it up, and you are nothing more than a warped, defective boy who knows nothing but Pokémon. . . ."

What is this person like? Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, N's Castle): "a Pokémon, even if it's revered as a deity, is still just a Pokémon. [...] So what if [Reshiram] chose you! That doesn't mean you're a threat. Come on! Now you'll face ME in battle! I can't wait to see the look on your face when you've lost all hope! "I won't allow anyone to stop me! No matter who does what!"

What is this person like? Rood(Pkmn BW, Route 18): "When it comes to Ghetsis, I cannot separate the truths from the lies."

There’s a rumor… Ghetsis(Pkmn BW, N's Castle): "Now that the stage is set, we can seize people's minds and hearts. We can bring into being the world that I--no, that Team Plasma--desires more easily than you can imagine! We and only we will use Pokémon, and we shall rule the powerless populace! "I've been waiting so long for this! I've kept my silence so no one could piece together what I planned. Now, those painful days are at an end!"

What is this person like? Ghetsis(Pkmn B2W2, Giant Chasm): "Excellent! That was a moving expression of your determination! So the education I provided to make you king wasn't a complete waste, then! But I still haven't forgotten that even though I was kind enough to find you when you were living in the forest with Pokémon, and take you in, and care for you, in the end you were selfish and disrupted my plans. I was supposed to use your abilities to rule Unova! "But I'll forgive you for that as well."

What is this person like? Ghetsis(Pkmn B2W2, Giant Chasm): "You fool. . . Last time, I was going to use you to capture people's hearts and minds to rule them! But this time, I'm simply going to use overwhelming power and rule with an iron fist! Do you understand? If you had simply become king, Unova would have remained beautiful!" 

What is this person like? / What does this person do? Ghetsis(Pkmn USUM, Episode RR): "This cannot be possible. . . I will not accept this! "Myah-ha-ha! No, no, no, no, no! You don't get it, do you? I can't be defeated! I won't be! IT. CANNOT. BE. ALLOWED! You, tiny intruder! If you value this girl's life, throw aside all your Poké Balls, at this moment!" (When obeyed): "Myah-ha-ha! Good, good. . . That's a good little [boy/girl/child]. Do as your elders command you! Victory only suits perfect leaders, after all. . . Such as myself!"

There’s a rumor… Rood(Pkmn B2W2, Giant Chasm): "Ghetsis's real plan was to take over the Unova region! Liberating Pokémon was nothing more than an excuse!"

There’s a rumor… Zinzolin(Pkmn B2W2, Undella Town, after reaching innermost chamber of Abyssal Ruins): "An extremely wonderful king was laid to rest in those ruins. If that king has descendants, maybe those special powers were passed down. . ."

Message from Ghetsis to [player] Ghetsis(Pkmn B2W2, Plasma Frigate): "That aside, this is my gift to you to show my respect for making it this far. I'll freeze you solid right here so you can watch my glorious ascent!"