#which depicts my very genuine reaction to it lmao
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So recently, I started watching Bluey!
In a way, that was inevitable: I was a brony back in the day (and yes that sure is a whole subject in its own right I'm not getting into right now lmao), I work in a setting where I frequently interact with children, and I'm Australian. It was just a matter of time, and when my aunt over the Christmas hollies demanded my parents and I watch 'the cricket episode', that was just the final permission I needed to do it.
So, those are three potential reasons to watch it: because kids' cartoons can be highly enjoyable and good viewing in their own right, because it'll help me better understand and relate to kids, and because it is The big cultural product coming out of my country for this entire decade probably and that's interesting.
And all of them turned out to be well-founded! It has helped me to visualise a lot better how kids work and learn and live, and it's good viewing: the animation is pretty, the music work is great (some very well-placed classical pieces alongside the Steven Universe-esque chiptunes), and it's equally capable of being sweet and funny and genuinely meaningful. There's a lot that can be said about that; the contrast with the mixed reaction to the 'darker' Avatar remake, or even just the way limitations (in this case, quick 7-minute runtimes) can breed creativity.
But it was that third reason which surprised me the most. I'd heard all the jokes about how American kids are picking up Australian slang and even accents and so forth, but I never properly prepared myself for how... it would feel, seeing my life depicted on TV like that.
It's not like Australians never get to see our country on TV. We have our own reality shows and soapies and all that, but I don't watch the latter and the former... aren't exactly depictions of ordinary everyday life. When Australia does show up in media, it's usually through satire: either Simpsons-style, or our own home-grown Kath and Kim or The Castle. And that's not a knock on either of those last two: they're pitch-perfect depictions of Australian culture and I'd highly recommend anyone who wants to understand Australian humour or social mores to watch both! It's just that they're very... self-deprecating. Which, again: Australian culture. We're like that.
But Bluey is so... beautiful.
I've always had a weird relationship to my country. I've never really fit in much with the culture; I'm too sensitive and sincere for it, and it's usually pretty obvious I think. And the environment? I just don't entirely know how to relate to it. All of our holidays are based on a calendar and geography an entire world away. Native plants and animals and the like always seemed like they Belong To the, well, native Australians. I'm not witchy, I'm not a health junkie, and I'm not super outdoorsy (though I do like a hike now and then!). My main way of interacting with my country is through just walking down the street, and marvelling at how pretty my city is, and how lovely (and/or annoying!) the birds are.
And I get that from Bluey. Something it's good at, even outside my personal connection to it I think, is depicting this certain sense of awe at the world that children can have, when everything is so new and strange and wonderful. The pilot episode features a long, zoomed-in moment of the youngest child encountering a walking leaf bug, and her whispered, thinking-out-loud amazement. 'Why would a leaf want to walk?' indeed!
And there's that: the rainbow lorikeets flocking in trees; the jacaranda flowers softly falling outside the parents' bedroom window. But also the man-made things. The green deck chairs out on the lawn, drinking white wine and cider while the dads barbeque. The sausage sizzle and pavlova. The opening presents Christmas morning and then going for a swim in the pool with your cousins.
It's romanticised up the wazoo; it boggles me a little when people complain about how big the titular character's house is, because... yeah! It's idealised! It's meant to be pretty and comfy and a little wish-fulfilmenty. That's not to say that everything is perfect, but it's larger than life; not to quote the old cliche, but it's a preschoolers' show, for gosh sake.
And for someone who has always loved the world too much and felt silly and cringy and embarrassed by it, there's something really, really lovely about finally getting to see artists direct that love at the actual world I see around me. Not exactly the same; where I live is much drier than Brisbane, for starters. But it's close enough.
This, I really feel like, is a new cultural image of Australia that will resonate in the public memory. Not Mad Max, not Steve Irwin, just a pretty, hilly city by the beach, with bright cockatoos and wandering bin chickens, shallow creeks and gumnut 'dollars', and families gathering for barbeques and friendly games of backyard cricket.
(The cricket episode really is a very good one!!)
#Bluey#so yes I have gotten to see a fair bit more of this relatable Australian culture through the library#but it actually only increased my desire for more I think?#this past Christmas I actually felt a bit. less interested in the winter wonderland fantasy I usually dive into#I actually found myself really wanting to see my own Christmas shown on screen#I'm a couple months late but... here it is!#I'm... more connected to the world around me now. than I was a year ago.#it's nice. :)
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[Magi reread; special edition] Episode 1: Aladdin and Alibaba [Part 2]
Anime!Alibaba is so violent for no reason.
"Throwing me out like that is so cruel!" Bro, you broke into his house.
"Stop following me." Bro, you allowed him to stay inside.
Again, Aladdin's more interested in the dungeons. Also, we don't get that hilarious scene where it turns out the dungeon is that close, which is a shame.
Anime!Alibaba: I'm going to clear Amon and all the other dungeons in the world faster than anybody else!
Bro, you're late, like, 14 years.
Anime!Alibaba: I don't have the time to waste it on you. <- you say that, but you don't really act like you mean it, lmao.
Like, sorry I'm not adding more screenshots, but they were kinda just walking around, so.
Also, Aladdin asked Alibaba if he likes money (boy, does he), and Alibaba actually said sth like "you need a lot of it to change a country" and, like, true, but, bro, you don't even want to change a country. You just want a normal life, but the normal life doesn't want you.
Also, Aladdin is far more excited about the money-monologue, lmao.
WHAT ARE THESE EXPRESSIONS
In the manga, Aladdin bumps into Morgiana cuz he was playing with that weird trident, here he does it, because he was too busy thinking about boobs to notice her.
Also, Morgiana's anime hair always bugged me so much. The manga keeps describing it as fiery red, but hers are basically pink. That's kind of annoying, and makes her and Kougyoku look a bit too similar.
-pouts-
Also, dunno, it's interesting. I didn't comment on it when I was talking about the manga I think, but in that moment especially Morgiana is depicted being ashamed about being a slave. Which is understandable. But I just forgot to comment it earlier, so I'm doing it now.
Anime!Alibaba really was like, leave me the fuck alone, but here is is, acting like they're in it together. Lmao.
Well, the good thing is, we don't get Budel molesting Morgiana (he beats her up instead). The bad thing is, we get whatever the fuck is this scene with a close up in a moment.
Besides the Sacred Palace scenes, this is Ugo's very first appearance.
He looks kinda neat here.
Aww.
Live Morgiana reaction.
Live Alibaba reaction.
Now I kind of need like 6 other characters to have this scene, for the whole gang to have live reactions.
More Alibaba and his goddamn tunnels.
"This is my friend, Ugo-kun! Everybody calls him a djiin or something..." Who tf is "everybody", you've only ever spoken to three people - Alibaba, Budel and Morgiana.
Also, now I remember that Aladdin actually did introduce himself. Sorry, I overfocused on his display of thievery.
Her!!!!
Also, kind of interesing. In the manga and in the anime two opposite things happen - in the manga Aladdin and Alibaba call each other friends, and it's an entire moment about it, whereas here Alibaba says that he promised himself he won't try to befriend anybody.
Lol.
Also, now that I think about it, the whole scene with Alibaba calling Aladdin his servant/slave isn't here at all, so I think it wasn't the anime, but some other translation instead, that I ended up confusing with the anime.
Aladdin is not amused by Alibaba's ass-kissing.
I get that the ppl who worked on the anime were trying to kinda include everybody from the trio in one episode, and kinda tried to mix these first chapters, but that's still stupid as shit. Like, this genuinely makes no sense. I know that Jamil's an idiot, but not that much of an idiot.
Apparenly they're sent to some mine that we know nothing about, except then they end up not there, anyway. Ok.
Can't wait for you to punch Budel in the face.
Pretty. But also it's the momentTM where Aladdin tells him that if he keeps lying, he won't be able to trust anybody, even himself. Like, bro, bold of you to assume Alibaba has enough confidence to trust himself with anything.
Nearing the photo limit, so have this scene for the last one here. I do like these scenes in Magi, they look... magical (ba dum tss).
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honestly like. the more i take it apart and examine it, while going into it entirely is going to be A Post or Three of Its Own and will probably get its own thread: i think one of the reasons nine in canon upsets me so much is that i genuinely related to the version of him that made sense to me, when i tried to apply some continuity to his character from before his imprisonment vs after. he's actually the muse i wrote for the most prose for in this fandom, even more than five--which is saying something!--and he came to me pretty easily.
[longpost and Decidedly Harsh toward canon's depiction of him, but less ARGFMSKDKDKFK HATE than usual so much as 'man the awful way these people handled him was a waste.' believe it or not i'm actually pretty attached to him, but as the secret Better Version that lives in my head lmao]
the arc of his character could have been such a good one about how men and boys and the people around them are harmed by toxic masculinity, and examining the ways in which that's held up by other cis men, every other configuration of gender and AGAB, and both. he came through loud and clear to me as an example of a poorly socialized, abused, isolated homeschooler with very little life experience, who is throwing bits and pieces at the wall that he's cobbled together from the outside without understanding the experiences behind that kind of thing, to see what sticks. all this while having suppressed and sublimated his emotions so much that he doesn't actually recognize what he's feeling, and goes 'well, i guess this trauma reaction to killing people means i like killing people. let's go then!'
like... in canon, you can kind of see how the seeds of his trauma, and baseline personality, from before his capture might have gone septic in the process the way it does in canon. if he was already the kind of person who would spit that result out on the other side. the writers used his Acute Trauma as an excuse to go 'anyway his cêpan was a sexist dickhead under the guise of ~respecting women,~ and he got captured by pursuing a normal teenage crush and blames himself for it, and then he went through solitary for a year. so now he's a gleeful sexual predator who harasses john and thinks women are meat!'
and this becomes even more glaringly obvious when you set it next to how the aftereffects of his trauma are (not) depicted. this kid spent a year in solitary confinement--broken up by the intermission of mercy-killing his adopted dad after watching his torture--while not being fed enough and hurting himself on the forcefield on the regular. he's not going to immediately come out of that Ripped and an Incredible Polished Fighter; he's not going to come out of that a ~charming edgy debonair lovable asshole.~ this kid knows what the fuckin hat man looks like, dude. that's shit you come out of an emotional, physical, and psychological wreck, and not in a 'haha look how rude and boundary-pushing and violent and sleazy i am uwu' way.
he is barely going to be able to walk out of there on his own two feet. he is going to be hallucinating and not remember how to tell faces apart. he is going to freak out at anything like an enclosed space. he is going to be food-insecure. he is going to be constantly finding ways to self-harm when he feels at all out of control, and once again not in a 'haha i'm so quirky and edgy' way. he is going to have obsessive rituals and get stuck on repetitive thought patterns because you run out of shit to think about after a year with nothing to do but pushups, even before you add in the shiny new PTSD events to obsess over. which tend to take up all of your brain space even when you aren't isolated with them for long periods. he is going to be doing weird fucking shit after he gets out, bizarre and frightening shit that's not just 'being violent and a dick,' and other people will probably notice.
and all of this is before you factor in his backstory! (which, by the way, is not conducive to him coming out of his imprisonment an Unstoppable Highly Trained Killing Machine. he was taught how to actually fight opponents for Three Whole Ass Weeks before he got captured, and none of that was training against human-shaped opponents. i don't care how many pushups he does over how long, he still has had zero practice fighting Other People and that's immediately going to fuck him over in a fight. it's one thing to have him be dangerous because he makes up for lack of skill with being completely fucking berserk with zero regard for his own safety or anyone else's, but he's not going to be an unstoppable whirlwind of death. and you're not going to build muscle while you're being starved.)
and like. i could go on for a long time about how they fucked up his character to the point where seeing him onscreen anywhere outside his novella makes me instantly want to flip a table. but i think so much of what it comes down to--and i don't say this casually, i mean after laying out and examining all his scenes in the first series--is that he doesn't actually have an arc. he doesn't grow. the entire point of his character's existence is to be an awful person and never be held accountable, self-examine, or allowed to face any kind of real consequences for it.
it's genuinely fascinating to examine all the different methods they use to do this (which is for a whole post of its own), but he's not an exploration of culpability or responsibility--for past, current, and future actions--the way five's arc is. he's just a parade of all the abuse tactics and rhetoric the authors could think of, both direct and via enablement by people around him, to pour into one guy. nine is literally The Missing Stair: The Character.
contrast this with five getting nailed to the fuckin wall for things that are often, arguably, much less horrific or unhinged than what nine does. he's treated like a ~broken, irreparably insane monster~ by characters and narrative both. he's punished brutally and endlessly over and over and over and over no matter how much he tries to grow, or make amends, or even lay down and take everything that might be done to him as punishment because he Deserves It for, [checks notes] repeatedly having been groomed and manipulated for years. If You Can't Tell I am a Little Bitter
and it's not just other characters who suffer for it. the creators are SO invested in nine never being accountable, by himself or anyone else, that he is PUNISHED FOR IT when he makes even the slightest effort to unpack. when he has a moment of vulnerability during a breakdown over fucking up, he is restrained in exactly the same way as when he had to watch eight die. this so that he can have his self-blame literally beaten out of him to make him 'stop moping.' the writers don't care about his trauma, or being compassionate or fair in their portrayal of it, or letting him heal. the only thing they care about here is getting to write a Missing Stair as a good thing, and trying to get you, the reader, in on it by forcing you to like him.
anyway just. man. they did nine so fuckin dirty and their version of him brings down every other narrative around it. i know i rant about nine a lot but justice for my boy
#lorien legacies#LL number nine#LL number five#LL crit tag#the crit files#nine is a platter of sushi the writers put in the microwave and [horse staring out over the ocean meme] man#also if you fix this SO MUCH about his parallels and foils with five snap right into place and it is CHEF'S KISS UGH#also lifts up john's arc in the process to 'kid with some pretty ugly qualities buried under Nice Guy surface; who has to grow past them'#'and does'#instead of 'oh gross wtf'#dyn: lost boys#like frankly i feel like it's pretty shitty to both neglected/abused homeschoolers and survivors of solitary confinement#to go 'ya that's what made this guy a sadistic bullying bigoted creep uwu'#instead of you know. establishing the traits of /his/ that would be brought out by that#there's also just. so much to be said here about how in the process of giving nine a pass for his cruelty and toxic masculinity#the writers also give a pass for perpetuating the cruelty of toxic masculinity toward men and boys against /him/#also like this kid self-harms in a variety of ways when he needs control and it's a pattern that starts from his very first scene#Writers Address Literally Any of This Instead of Portraying Men Self-Harming as Quirky Badass Peak of Masculinity Shit Challenge#LL tag
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@vickdoom while i was formulating a response my brain was like. wow! it really is difficult keeping this compact without torturing myself so! why not make a new post! life is easier now lmao
i agree that the EN vas are fine and the comparisons of “sub is better than dub!!11!!1″ have all but been exhausted but yea! it really can be looked past. also jp akechi and en akechi really are like two different beings entirely and i love them both so i think either way. i would’ve liked jin anyway
The weird talk about murdering a guy actually being good for him, all things considered, WASN'T a mockery, after all, and he is just really really stupid...?
I will admit, you lost me there! Is this about Jin at the final confrontation? Takaya was being quite insane at the end there I will admit and either really uncaring about his own teammate’s life or just straight up stupidly not thinking about the consequences but I would just chock it up to the desperation that comes with last-ditch efforts like his. and also bad writing. i barely remember anything from that part of the game tbh because i was emotional about SEES but true! i agree go off, slay king (doesnt really understand what this is about my bad)
I've tended to think of it as maybe a way of coping with the clash between the neurotic hyper-independence and the desire to actually keep his two friends close by just considering them a extension of himself, but the cultish angle sounds very much probable!!
also that wasn’t the intent of the point i was trying to make with the first person plural of “our chidori” LMFAOO it was a bit hard to keep things in that little comment box so i think my point wasnt explained very well but thats ok!! i mostly agree with the former, not the cultish angle thing!!
anyway on to p3 criticism :D
( i have to preface this that if i disagree it’s not for the sake of disagreeing but rather i just like having internet discourse in a chill way y’know. like i genuinely do like to discover other people’s perspectives on media and consider them! far be it from me to “defend” p3 eventho its my fav rn in fact i’ll probably agree more than otherwise. )
first of all the comparison of eva and p3 is pretty apt LMAO i haven’t watched it myself but from what i gather. both it and p3: 1) have protags that maybe reflect the target demographic in the audience (troubled youth?) 2) timeless classic according to fans. (i agree. a lot of people still talk about both till this day) 3) themes that draw in familiarity? is that the word (biblical or greek, respectively) 4) loved to death by fans and impacted them greatly
i think, the last one, is definitely due to the emotional responses the two evoked in its audience as well as the nostalgia factor. hence, criticism on p3 (idk about eva honestly) is rarely ever talked about, which is why i prompted for your opinion, cause I really do rarely see criticism on it aside from the surface level (like p3p VS fes, ken s.link, minato’s moon s.link, is the answer good etc).
there is a very specific set of circumstances that i got into p3 with that none of the aforementioned really applies to me. no nostalgia aside from the 2000s stuff which p4 also has, so! when you strip it all away i feel like it’s just a game with silly pacing among other flaws.
on to the vagueness of p3′s themes in comparison with its sequels, i do believe it’s due to the fact that the developers left it intentionally individualistic in order to not sound ‘preachy’.
- HASHINO, from this interview (which i’ll be referring to down the line as well).
there really wasn’t an end goal they set in mind, they just wanted to depict as many reactions to death as possible.
One time, I read a magazine article that discussed the various ways in which people wished to meet their end. As you might expect, the answers were just as diverse as the people giving them… but the majority of them did agree on one point: they wished to die surrounded by loved ones. -HASHINO
except for one: the message in p3 seems to lie in its social links, and that to die surrounded by loved ones, or rather knowing you impacted them positively, is “the answer”.
now far be it from me to take anything this man says too seriously since his direction of the persona games, while generally good, have so much dissonance in them sometimes with its themes that its almost painful (seen in p5 most recently). also in this same interview he says 'I’ve never successfully forged a true friendship with a girl in real life.’ and like.
hmmm on the ryoji and shinjiro bit. frickkkkk i never even pictured shinjiro in that same way i view ryoji now that you mention it,,,, this is a great depiction of the “dissonance” between themes I was talking about. although I don’t completely understand the “healthy and content millionaire raised by a loving father” part you mentioned suddenly, i think this is about takaya (strega) VS mitsuru (SEES) is it? cant say it’s about shinji and ryoji since the only thing we know about ryo’s parents is that they never existed. i wouldn’t super call the late kirijo father as outwardly “loving” either. i think i need more context on this LOL if you dont mind.
kirijo group’s unsavory practices have always been out in the open like that yeah, and no one says a thing cause i guess rich = OK and mitsuru is a baddie so = also OK. yukari tries to call her and kirijo as a whole out on it but it’s always with the underlying message of “yukari’s just jealous of mitsu” that gets resolved as soon as yukamitsu’s personal problems do. imo, i sort of liked that the kirijo group wasnt exactly a saintly company cause lbr what companies even are, but their current actions really are just reprehensible to say the least and don’t reflect their “change in ways”, that i can agree with.
now, if i were to rank the closeness of modern persona game’s main casts with eachother it’d look like p4 > p5 >p3. SEES don’t get along with eachother, this is a given. and i do think it was intentional on the game dev’s parts as seen here:
SEES are functionally colleagues with lives outside of eachother. i noticed them being referred to as “friends” during May, yes, but I noticed that only when I wanted to select yukari or junpei in the shrine fortunes, or during Fool Arcana rank ups which are semantics the game has to play by to just, get the point across to the player. they are “friends” in the same way we’d refer to our college classmates as friends, but once semester break rolls around we tend to hang out with other people, right? that’s what SEES are to eachother, at first. also, if we go by the RP-ing as the MC aspect that persona tends to do, then it’s most certainly not just ‘the game’ referring to them as friends but rather the MC seeing them as such. and i dont know, it’s a nice characterization for minato and minako to me -- seeing their dormmates as friends when they dont necessarily feel the same yet. its like they want to be close.
i have to respectfully disagree about the nuance thing as well. interestingly, even the most diehard p3 fan from what i’ve seen sometimes shares your views as well. case in point, yukari being hostile in ‘the answer’ when she supposedly went through character development already in ‘the journey’, which i presented my disputation for here. this, coupled with the junpei thing you mentioned... i think it’s brilliant! call it bad writing, but honestly. to be real. humans make the same mistake over and over before they finally get it. i know i did. especially as a 16-17 teen. these characters are in different contexts most of the time which makes them react in somewhat same ways.
let’s take junpei again as an example. at the monorail he expresses his jealousy, gets over it. during june/july, he gets jealous again, but worse, and this time he doesnt get over it too much until he meets chidori (someone he wants to have lean on him). during that time between the problem and meeting chidori, he hands a quick apology to MC, but that just marks another pivot where instead of taking it out on MC, he takes it out on himself self-deprecatingly. he knows that his problem is himself now -- that’s development to me. and lastly, his conflict with the MC comes out during the climax when he blames them for the shadows, and everything that’s happened. for making their lives hell. understandably, its a hotheaded response to have in that situation. i could see a past teen boy me that would react somewhat the same. but that is not the same as his petty jealousy anymore. all three are still dickish moves, but when we look at it, all three are pretty different contexts? feel free to prove me wrong but i see it as pretty in-line with what we know of junpei tbh.
nothing to do about tartarus im afraid <3 im the type to be okay with grindy gameplay at a modicum myself and i haaaaaated exploring when i first played p3. i almost dropped it actually (so glad i didnt) but yeah. i definitely prefer p5′s main gameplay module, and i wouldn’t mind trading the slog of two hundred+ floors for something more mementos-like.
that’s the spirit! i hope you enjoy p3 one day as much as i do :”) again, i hope this is less of me defending my favorite persona game so much as me just idk. wanting to share good parts of it despite understanding its flaws (i still think the pacing is ass even now). i do mostly agree with your points. have a good day!! (thank u if you read this far oh gosh).
I feel like the main problem with how Strega (Takaya and Jin, at least) are written is just about the game desperately wanting them to remain excessively unlikable until after they are defeated, which is…bizarre and unnecessary, to say the least. They are never actually doing anything of importance, so the narrative relies on "dehumanizing" them into stock villains, to give the players some reason to dislike or, at least, oppose them on a personal level, hence the lack of meaningful characterization. Jin's November comment about SEES "not having a clue what will happen if the Dark Hour disappears", impliedly being about the memory wipeout, since Takaya told them outright they would lose their powers earlier, is the perfect example of this, imo. He gets cut off mid-sentence, so he doesn't spoil it for later, naturally, but it's never brought up again, after eventually being reveled by Ryoji, because that is actually a pretty solid reason for them to antagonize the protagonists (imagine waking up on the streets, with no personal documents, feeling awfully sick and wondering why no one is looking for you!) but, again, they are yet to be defeated and not meant to come off as even remotely sympathetic until then. It's just very…unskillful writing. Sorry for the long message, btw, I initially just wanted to leave a regular comment, actually, but there's just so many words it apparently wouldn't fit in less than five separate responses 😵💫
yoooo thanks for the input. thats also a really good way of looking at it! the game needing to make them unlikeable pretty much explains things. it just ends up being really goofy. which is a shame because they really do have great backstories that remain largely unexplored.
Jin's November comment about SEES "not having a clue what will happen if the Dark Hour disappears", impliedly being about the memory wipeout, since Takaya told them outright they would lose their powers earlier
honestly? i never made this connection myself so thanks for telling me! i could see that being true and i'm about to hit that point in my replay game soon myself so i can look at it with this context. question is how could jin have possibly have known this info... my guess is ikutsuki could have fed them that info since he also supplied them with his suppressant drugs, plus they even knew about the Ruin thing that Nyx could have brought about. honestly, including ikutsuki the "antagonists" of p3 are an interesting bunch with how much potential they have that's not really explored but i guess thats just a hashino persona game thing.
also i just think between them and ikutsuki i def see strega having more sympathetic light being shone on them since they were the direct victims of old kirijo's depravity. out of all the kids, only they survived? your comment about them "not having any personal documents" just strikes me as so fcked up. damn. hope it changes a bit in reload.
#this is more than 10 comments i will say.#ans#persona 3#persona 3 reload#much love btw :finger hearts:
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ah... well, I got spoiled... fairly comprehensively...
be careful, fam, because the last two eps of wwdits leaked and spoilers are floating around fairly uncut, especially on twitter. and with twitter’s tendency to put random tweets on your trending page... yeah. 🙃
I guess I won’t post any meta for a while because uhhhh idk if there’s much point in “speculating” now. I was right about some things, wrong about others, and I guess I’ll have to wait until the episodes drop to figure out what I think about everything. I’m not going to watch the Russian versions. And before anyone asks, I will only discuss the leaks privately with other people who’ve already been spoiled. I don’t really want to push them any further myself.
I think... over the next few weeks I’ll probably try to get back to writing some of my s3 fics that I abandoned while I was waiting for s4 to finish? While I still think I’ll write nandermo after s4 finishes up (I do think I know how I’m going to approach all this, though obviously that’s contingent on how things play out in the actual episodes) I think I might spend a lot of time playing in s3 nandermo because... being honest with you, that’s still the version I like best. lmao
In particular, I think I might finally go back to my version of Nandor’s road trip because in light of some recent developments, some aspects of it feel more like fix-it fic. lmao. There’s a lot I really enjoyed about s4 and I’m definitely going to write some s4-compliant fic, but I also feel comfortable writing it out of existence with s3 fic lmao. They did not always go in a direction I would have chosen, to put it lightly.
I guess if anything, I feel most bummed because I feel like some storylines could have been really interesting if they’d gone a different way. Missed opportunities, I guess. I’m still excited to see some things, but other things just feel odd to me. Characterization-wise, I mean. Maybe in context they’ll make more sense...? But I do think that a lot of things I was hoping would tie up and make more sense won’t, which means that fanfic is going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting.
I do think that unfortunately, that sinking feeling I had about some storylines being more driven by an end result than preexisting characterization might have been true. Again, I’m gonna watch the eps before fully formulating my thoughts on the season, but some things do leave me feeling kind of disappointed.
in conclusion... eh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#I do have one post queued up and ready for when Freddie airs#which depicts my very genuine reaction to it lmao#wwdits tag#nandermo tag
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MC Who is Completely Aware of Disney.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHA
I should be writing my book but instead this scenario has finally won over. Ever since I first heard about the game I've been thinking about this lmaoo.
MC doesn't know about TWST (that's a whole other beast) but they know Disney properties and make the connection very fast. Throughout the story comparisons are probably made, and these are the reactions (dome genuine some just funny) that I think could follow. (With a little bit of Polyam implications because I am that bitch)
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Heartslabyul
Riddle is heartbroken.
You're telling him his whole life, the queen he's looked up to, has aspired to emulate in his every action, is the bad guy???
(^^Everyone else in the dorm kinda new this was coming tbh. The rules don't help the whole "dictator of wonderland" thing.)
Ace and Cater are just offended at the depiction of card soldiers and how that's what they represent.
But while Cater can at least understand, Ace will fight tooth and nail against this.
("I didn't follow Riddle, I punched him! I'm not his stupid soldier.")
Deuce may or may not question his entire life.
(^He stopped being a punk for his mom's sake but does that make him a card soldier? Is he a weakling? A follower? Existential crisis sinks in.)
Trey just wishes you never mentioned this please Riddle is having a breakdown.
Doesn't totally help if you tell them it's your favorite movie.
Ace may brag a little to the other dorms though.
Cater has no opinions but definitely likes the fact that his partner knows so much. He also likes this little bit of chaos because he gets you to himself for a while. Everyone else is too busy settling their life crises while Cater has accepted his turbulent existence long ago.
(Maybe that's what happens when you have so many sisters?)
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Savanaclaw
Leona probably doesn't believe you, and if he does, he just does that little annoyed sneer that makes it hard to tell exactly what he's thinking.
(The fact that he is basically repeating Scar's various mistakes definitely weighs on him... but it also hits Ruggie and Jack hard too. Ruggie especially, who can't imagine how this schoolyard play could potentially evolve into full on murder)
Jack doesn't know where he fits in but for a long while he tries to keep you away from Leona and Ruggie.
It's an immature move. He knows it, you know it, they know it, but the dorm as a whole also seems to acknowledge that maybe he is right to be afraid.
Leona would much appreciate you not bursting into song. Ruggie, on the other hand, encourages such behavior.
Lion man might ask you to tell him about the other dorms. Something about hearing their stories makes him a little less self-concious.
(Especially Sleeping Beauty. Leona still has it out for Malleus lmao)
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Octavinelle
Azul probably doesn't believe you, and if he does, he probably makes excuses.
(The twins don't care all that much tbh.)
"Sometimes at the theme park Ursula's head comes off her animatronic"
^Melt down moment
Please just let him be the guy is barely surviving as it is don't shake his roots.
"My guy she literally kept merfolk against their wills I don't think she is who you should be idolizing."
He needs to rethink everything.
But Floyd and Jade kinda like the songs.
(Which is why I advise you not to even introduce them to the music, if you know it by heart. Jade might just absentmindedly hum it but Floyd can and will terrorize with it.)
Once Azul calms down he might ask you more about Disney marketing so he can possibly expand his buisness
It never stops with him 🙄
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Scarabia
Jamil is the one with the most notable reaction.
Probably immediately recognizes the similarities between himself and Jafar. Whether or not he sympathizes is unknown.
Kamil just finds it funny and really wants to know as much as possible.
He's so interested!
But like any similarities go right over his head because he's way too focused on the emphasis you put on the genie.
Tbh it just feels like telling a story to a child and a maturing teenager. Both find interest in different ways and neither want to hear your version of a Robin William's impression.
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Pomefiore
Eple is fucking furious because he understands right away that he's basically a pun.
Rook teases him with this information.
(^^As he does with several others.)
Vil is incredibly upset with the suggestion he'll never be fairest in the land.
("You'll always be the fairest to me" *cue an insult about you being a potato whilst a fierce blush begins to spread up his neck*)
Rook tries to use any information you have and apply it to other students. Y'know, like a stalker.
^^also very interested in romance scenes. He may try to recreate a few with you... or even worse (or better depending on how you view it) might give the others dating advice.
Rook doesn't know about personal boundaries, really.
Epel still can't give over that he's most likely named after a fucking apple. Probably resents apple carving now.
Vil is still glad he's in this dorm and not another.
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Ignihyde
Idia doesn't seem like the type to really care
Ortho makes up for that.
He's very excited to compare modern history with what you know. Also loves hearing about the music.
Probably gets more excited about properties outside of the realm of the dorms (Tangled, Mulan, Pixar, ext).
If you don't tell Idia, don't worry, somehow it gets back to him via Ortho.
An excited little brother talking about Disney movies is perhaps one of the most normal things you'll experience at that school
^That's how you might get Idia interested in hearing your tales. But he's never really looking forward to hearing Hercules
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Diasomnia
Chaos
Sebek is OFFENDED
Lilia is INSULTED
Mallues is APPALLED
Silver really doesn't care all that much.
Maybe Sleeping Beauty is not the best representation of their dorm founder.
Lilia assures you that's not what happened and he's well aware of this.
"Bro I didn't write the script"
Sebek is a menace he won't even hear you speak about this blasphemy.
Malleus might have an identity crisis.
^^ He's well aware of the fact that this doesn't change anything, really, but it's a lot to mull over. The worry that maybe the story you know has some truth, and he is destined for a similar path kinda screws with him.
Sebek grows a hatred for forest creatures out of fear they might be conspiring against the dorm. Silver is so confused.
#twisted wonderland#twst x reader#twisted wonderland x reader#twst#heartslabyul x reader#savanaclaw#octavinelle#scarabia#pomefiore#ignihyde#twst diasomnia
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laurent is a good person - book 1 meta
one of the most amazing things about captive prince is how the reveals in book 3 recontextualize all of the scenes leading up to them, including about laurent himself. in book one, all we see is damen pov as he’s being abused and humiliated by this supposedly spoiled, vile ice prince. when the regent comes to damen and subtly (and not so subtly) insults laurent, calling him unfit to rule - well, why would he think anything different? laurent has insulted him, had him whipped within an inch of his life, and even attempted to (and later successfully lmfao) have him raped while drugged out of his mind.
after book 3 we can reread most if not all of book 1 as a very traumatized boy who has finally been confronted with the man who killed his brother, leaving him alone with his abusive uncle, and who he clearly has made into a complete monster in his own mind. damen of course sees him as a complete bitch, but there’s textual/subtextual evidence that laurent is well liked, and that his behavior during book 1 was actually pretty out of character for him. i’d like to provide some examples of that now!!!!
“Laurent had stopped dead the moment he had seen Damen, his face turning white as though in reaction to a slap, or an insult. Damen’s view, half-truncated by the short chain at this neck, had been enough to see that. But Laurent’s expression had shuttered quickly.” Captive Prince, Chapter One
i couldn’t resist adding this one in hehe. laurent recognizes damen!! he’s come down, knowing his uncle has devised another truly horrendous and triggering “gift” and that he’ll lose support if he calls it our for what it truly is, only to find out that it’s fucking damianos of akielos sent to him as a sex slave. a jab at laurent’s trauma about auguste and also a jab at laurent’s frigid sexuality - which ofc is completely the regent’s fault. fuck that guy so much lmfao
“‘It’s so rare to see you at these entertainments, Your Highness,’ said Vannes.” Captive Prince, Chapter Two.
this is right before the fight between govart and damen in the ring, of course. damen sees laurent as depraved and vile as the sexual sadism on display by the veretian court, and considers him to be a willing purveyor of it. this is wrong, of course, as said by vannes here. laurent has only shown up because he wants to humiliate damen lmfao.
“He did remember being supported by two of the guards, here, in this room, while Radel stared athis back in horror. ‘The Prince really . . . did this.’ ‘Who else?’ Damen said. Radel had stepped forward, and slapped Damen across the face; it was a hard slap, and the man wore three rings on each finger. ‘What did you do to him?’ Radel demanded.” Captive Prince, Chapter Four
this scene, to me, was the most telling lmfao. it’s right after damen is whipped. you could argue that radel is just a servant in the employ of the royal household, so is of course going to be loyal to the prince, but he seems genuinely surprised of the prince’s cruelty towards damen. not only that, but he slaps him and immediately assumes damen must have done something. which - i mean, technically he did lmao. not necessarily enough to deserve having the skin flayed from his back, but you know. if laurent was in the habit of torturing pets and slaves, why would the overseer react this way?
“The men guarding him were the Prince’s Guard, and had no affiliation with the Regent whatsoever. It surprised Damen how loyal they were to their Prince, and how diligent in his service, airing none of the grudges and complaints that he might have expected, considering Laurent’s noxious personality. Laurent’s feud with his uncle they took up wholeheartedly; there were deep schisms and rivalries between the Prince’s Guard and the Regent’s Guard, apparently.” Captive Prince, Chapter Four
laurents relationships with his guards are also some of the biggest indicators that he isn’t just a spoiled brat, but can insire a deep loyalty in his men. even if they do all want to fuck him. ah, sexual harassment. it’s also hilarious that damen immediately assumes they’re loyal to him because they want to fuck him - nice projection there, dude. we know a bit more about laurent and his guards thanks to green but for a season, but this little bit here is interesting.
“Laurent was indeed good at talking. He accepted sympathy gracefully. He put his position rationally. He stopped the flow of talk when it became dangerously critical of his uncle. He said nothing that could be taken as an open slight on the Regency. Yet no one who talked to him could have any doubt that his uncle was behaving at best misguidedly and at worst treasonously.” Captive Prince, Chapter Five
idek what to say here. laurent my beloved <3333
“‘When someone doesn’t like you very much, it isn’t a good idea to let them know that you care about something,’ said Laurent. Damen felt himself turn ashen, as the threat sank in. ‘Would it hurt worse than a lashing for me to cut down someone you care for?’ said Laurent.” Captive Prince, Chapter Seven
this isn’t really relevant to my thesis lmfao i just love this exchange bc it gives SO MUCH information about laurent and his uncle in just three lines of dialogue. what has the regent done, who did he cut down just to hurt laurent? when and how did laurent learn that? p a i n
“Laurent’s fussy horse began acting out again, and he leaned forward in the saddle, murmuring something as he stroked her neck in an uncharacteristically gentle gesture to quiet her.” Captive Prince, Chapter Nine.
HORSEY NO- lmfao this scene just hurts so badly on the reread. especially later on, in book 3 i think, where laurent says something like “i provoked my uncle.” he’s really blaming himself for his uncle KILLING HIS HORSE, his horse that his murdered brother trained, one of the only living connections to auguste... all because his uncle could not let a single miniscule plan laurent had set go through without some kind of repercussion. literally all laurent did was do something to stop an innocent group of people from being abused, nothing to undermine his uncle’s rule, but because the regent is VILE he could not let laurent have even this. he’s so good with her, too. he must have known by this point and also known that there was no way to stop this. P A I N
“‘I know that you have somehow arranged this,’ said Erasmus. He was incapable of hiding what he felt, and just seemed to radiate embarrassed happiness. ‘You kept your promise. You and your master. I told you he was kind,’ Erasmus said. ‘You did,’ said Damen. He was pleased to see Erasmus happy. Whatever Erasmus believed about Laurent, Damen wasn’t going to dissuade him. ‘He’s even nicer in person. Did you know he came and talked to me?’ said Erasmus. ‘—He did?’ said Damen. It was something he couldn’t imagine. ‘He asked about . . . what happened in the gardens. Then he warned me. About last night.’ ‘He warned you,’ said Damen. ‘He said that Nicaise would make me perform before the court and it would be awful, but that if I was brave, something good might come at the end of it.’ Erasmus looked up at Damen curiously. ‘Why do you look surprised?’ ‘I don’t know. I shouldn’t be. He likes to plan things in advance,’ said Damen.” Captive Prince, Chapter 9.
this is the first in-text confirmation we have that laurent has a good heart beneath his layers and layers of trauma-induced lashing out. book one often skeeves people out because of its graphic and, honestly, yes, kind of sexualized depiction of rape, slavery, and depravity, but beneath it all you meet these two protagonists who are going to have all of their most deeply held views about each other challenged. laurent from very early on is shaken to his core when damen refuses to rape nicaise in the ring - it cracks the very foundations of the person he’d built up in his head as this horrible monster who killed his brother in cold blood. and damen keeps defying laurents expectations by being a good person through and through. on the other hand, laurent spends the first part of the book taking out years of anger on damen, but here for the first time we see him do something just because its the kind thing to do. yes, torveld is an ally against his uncle, but laurent has clearly been scheming with him for a while now, and he’s now overlooking his hatred of damen and working with him just because none of the slaves deserve whats happened to them. it’s such a sweet moment.
“One of the other men, eyeing them, approached a moment later. ‘Don’t mind Jean. He’s in a foul mood. He was the one had to stick a sword through the mare’s throat and put her down. The Prince tore strips off him for not doing it fast enough.’” Captive Prince, Chapter Nine.
HORSEY NO- pt 2. this is just another really sweet and sad detail - laurent being so upset that the horse’s death could have been more painless. it must have hurt so much to see her in pain, and to know that the only way for that pain to end was being put down as quickly as possible. i wuv him. im sad
that’s it, though there are still a few more chapters left in the book. this isn’t providing any new information, of course, the path of the three books is to show that laurent isnt the man we meet in book one, that he’s actually sweet, and earnest, and he’s been fighting his own battle practically alone against his abuser since he was fifteen years old. also, the reveal that laurent knew who damianos was from the start makes it clear imo that all of his violence in book 1 was supposed vengence, not... him being evil. he apologizes explicitly in-text, and also, all of the acts of violence he commits cause serious problems for him in terms of his future alliance which he then needs to fix. i just love how layered these books are, how there’s so much information in them that makes rereading almost more fun than reading them for the very first time!
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Due to the interest in the ship having grown thanks to the Pandemic Special and it always having it's comfy little place in my heart (which I should express more through art maybe lolol), let me compile a few important Stanman/Cartan scenes, which might serve as an explanation for that specific scene in the special too. Since I've noticed quite a few people questioned Cartman's action being in character, to which I say: Yes, it was. And that not only due to his relation to Stan, but I will focus on that part only in my unneccesarily long post. :'D (Honestly I personally love long over-analytical tumblr posts for South Park ships though lmao.)
Season 2, Episode 7: "City on the Edge of Forever"
This one isn't really deep or anything lol. The point is just that Stan had a wacky dream that Cartman dreamed about wacky stuff and ice cream and that was kinda cute.
Season 6, Episode 4: "Fun with Veal"
Now this episode is the biggest and earliest example of Cartman ditching his personal believes for Stan's well-being. Cartman couldn't care less about saving the baby cows and getting the support from the hippies later on, as well as initially not getting any food during the strike, just pissed him off more. Talking with the negotiator really just was for his personal fun, but the thing is he was successful with Stan's initial plan and quit the negotiation process early because he noticed Stan's health worsening. When they get to the hospital at the end and learned that Stan could have died from his totally realistic illness, you clearly see Cartman worried, as shown in the picture above. It might seem out of character on the surface, but consider that Cartman did get his personal fun with the negotiation. Additionally, the season before with the buttface people, we learned that Cartman does care about some people, but when he genuinely does so, he won't openly admit it.
Season 8, Episode 14: "Woodland Critter Christmas"
On the assumption that Cartman's depiction of his friends in this very.. special fanfic of his reflects his views on them, it is notable how Stan is not only pretty much in character, but also depicted very positively and is the hero of the story. Also he gets a really nice Christmas celebration at the end of it and actual Stan, alongside nearly all classmates, are very hooked with the story.
Season 9, Episode 8: "Two Days Before the Day After Tomorrow"
Whether he is mainly picking on Kyle or not, Cartman clearly seems to enjoy his lone-time with Stan. And given Stan's reaction to the boat and all, that appears pretty much mutual. Moreover, Cartman making extra sure that Stan won't tell Kyle is probably both jealousy over Stan's trust towards Kyle as well as Cartman of course just not wanting Kyle to know of all people. I don't think it's exaggerating to say that overall, Cartman would really like to get closer to Stan and have Stan trust him more. As untrustworthy as Cartman unfortunately is though lol.
Season 13, Episode 14: "Pee"
It's really only the little moment seen above where at their reunion, Cartman ignores the others and runs over to Stan to hug him (who seems pretty unphased by that). And I thought that was kinda cute lol.
Season 18, Episode 6: "Freemium isn't Free"
Kyle, Kenny and Cartman are all pretty pissed off at Jimmy upon finding out that he spread the Terrance and Phillip freemium game despite knowing how addictive it can be. However it's just notable how pissed off Cartman is and how he specifically mentions Stan. So aside from just thinking freemium games are lame, he's also particularly pissed that Jimmy took advantage of Stan's addictive personality.
Season 21, Episode 5: "Hummels & Heroin"
Another very beloved moment by the 3.5 Stanman shippers (me included) out there. Stan is worried about the drug dealing business at the retirement home - and previous episodes have shown clearly that he cares about his grandpa quite a lot - and asks his friends for help to deal with that issue. They all are very much against getting involved, including Cartman initially, but he does come up with an idea. And upon Stan stating that he needs him, he decides to help (dragging the others with them). Whether it's just Cartman's enjoyment of getting involved in wacky stuff, him enjoying to be needed in general or it being an extra sweet flavour for him because it's Stan asking, it's just nice to know that he reaches out to help after all. And yes, that's very much unlike the whale wars episode and I'd say that's because the former had the hippie involvement, yet no Stan in immediate visible danger like in the veal episode.
With all of that summed up - and I probably left out several smaller moments -, the reason I wrote all this is literally just because I like this ship, know not many do so, but quite a few people have picked up interest due to the Pandemic Special and probably just as many (I'm assuming people not as overly invested in the show as I am LOL) saw Cartman's reaction as really out of character. Although I would argue that Kyle comforting Stan right there would have been much more out of character, but that's another topic entirely and I don't wanna ruin anyone's fun on shipping Style.
But yeah. Thing is, Cartman has shown empathy for people before. Cartman has specifically shown empathy for Stan before. He won't speak it out loud when he genuinely cares about someone, so he didn't here either. Kyle of course is baffled by Cartman's reaction, given their relationship. And lastly Cartman deep down would like normality back just like Stan, so he can rip on Kyle and have fun going out like usual and all. But it's Eric Cartman, of course he'll deny that.
Stupid funfact on the side: In S20 I think, when they're regretting having destroyed Cartman's devices, Stan looks at Snapchat pictures of Cartman's butt lol and I think that's just beautiful.
Dude have I really written a whole essay about why I like shipping these paper eggs lmao
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second Tyranny playthrough
I’m doing this run as a “Disfavored AU” of my existing Fatebinder Ilevath’s main canon, while I try and figure out what sort of character to even roll for a game siding with the rebels...
it’s weird and fascinating how already, the vibe I get is that things are slightly “off” and he’s not quite “in-character” compared to the version of him in my head? which I think is coming mainly from how a lot of the other characters have reacted to him since the choice was locked in - some of the things Tunon and the other Fatebinders have said in dialogue, that feel more approving of that decision (which yeah, fair, law and order and the Disfavored go together better than the Chorus does), and that indicate a view of him that he’s also more of an actual partisan toward the Disfavored than I see him as being?
(I don’t quite remember what the equivalent dialogue options were on the Chorus side, whether they were equally Chorus-partisan, Ashe-negative, but the ability to be very “I don’t trust the Voices and think he’s probably doing treason” also probably contributes to this sense....? idk, it just all feels slightly off.)
but yeah, generally quite interesting because it does make me wonder, well how much of my sense of “who Ilevath is”, directly comes from the nudges made by other characters’ dialogue and the player’s own options, while I was running the my first Scarlet Chorus playthrough? compared to just “I have a sense of this character that can be more or less accurately depicted through these dialogue options, and one route just has better options for said character”...
and especially considering the former option, with then how much of the character would be created through, essentially, NPC reactions to decisions you’ve made.... :3 :3 :3 delicious gameplay-story integration, right there.
(which speaking of, HELLO does Tunon drop foreshadowing bombs on you when you head back to court at the beginning of act 2! other characters as well, which I’m now kicking myself for not screengrabbing because I don’t remember the details, but Tunon in particular just up and tells you “yeah, when you’ve gained a certain amount of renown, a lot of your power comes from how you’re perceived” and like. lmao. assumption before playing the rest of the game is he’s talking in a general & metaphorical sense..... n o p e.)
I also, like a nerd, just genuinely want to see so many more examples of adjudication of cases based on Kyros’s laws that we see explained in his dialogues, because they sound so INTERESTING..... like, “Kyros’s peace” seems to make war/fighting/etc illegal because you could be endangering/throwing away your life, as well as because the other person’s life is property/vassal to the Overlord? the “Magician’s Folly” one is... bonkers and fascinating on the surface bc it’s saying if you practise sanctioned magic and destroy life or property while doing so, you’ll be judged innocent of a crime...? like, ANY circumstance? really? I feel like there must be extra context that makes this not be a “mage can be a serial killer with magic and get out of jail free” card, or else at least some reason why that would be. an acceptable rule to have o.O so yes. give me more legal details! I need to have them to roleplay acting in accordance with my duty as Tunon’s mouthpiece in the empire better :)
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V Watches MagiReco - Episode 13 Review
*Spoilers for Magia Record Anime Episode 13*
(This review will focus on Episode 13 only. I will be writing a separate review for the anime season as a whole!)
I have so many mixed feelings about this episode that I honestly don’t even know where to start LOL xD There are some parts that I hated and some that I loved, and so many reactions ranging from “WTH WAS THAT?!?” to “UH OKAY...” to “OMG YASSSSS!!!!!”
I’ll going to try my best to unpack my thoughts as coherently as possible, but this review will probably still end up being the most incoherent of them all because of all my mixed feelings for all the changes the anime made xD
To start, Mifuyu is definitely more antagonistic in the anime compared to what I remember of her in the game lol. And honestly I feel cheated that they always seem to tease us with some kind of confrontation between Yachiyo and Mifuyu, but the latter always summons that giant moon and escapes before anything can happen. It’s honestly a little anti-climactic and a bit of a waste, what with all the tension they’ve been building between these two, but then again, it doesn’t really happen in the game, either, so I guess it’s not really the anime’s fault for not “delivering” haha :P
Alright, since I’m going in chronological order, may as well get the biggest disappointment out of the way first: Iroha and Yachiyo’s argument. I don’t think I can even begin to put into words how utterly disappointed I was with this part, seeing as it was one of the most crucial plot points in the game and definitely one of Iroha’s most shining moments. Firstly, the way Yachiyo revealed her wish lacked emotion and impact for me. The music didn’t even change, and there was no sense of this being the revelation of a huge secret/mystery that the story has kept under wraps all this time. At least they added a nice flashback sequence to show Yachiyo’s past and the reasoning behind her wish, rather than having it all just come out of her mouth verbally, so props to them for that, but I was still quite unimpressed with the way they went about this pivotal moments.
Next up in my complaints is the Rumour. I was so, so, so ready to see my girl Iroha finally standing up and holding her own in a battle, especially considering how weak she’s been portrayed throughout the past 12 episodes. I was expecting an intense fight with the Rumour--some struggle, some more determination, anything. But no, another case of what I call the “one-shot curse”. Iroha literally just ran up to the Rumour, aimed her arrow, shot, and BAM it’s gone. One of the most crucial battles in the story lasted about 20 seconds in total (yes, I was so petty and pissed off that I went back and counted lmao), and the way Iroha suddenly “powered up” so drastically made no logical sense to me at all. We never even saw her gradually increase in power or fighting capability throughout the story so far. Heck, she’s hardly even done anything in the past battles, and suddenly she can one-shot a Rumour all by herself? How. Pray tell, how.
And the final major complaint that follows on from this chain of unhappy ranting: Iroha and Yachiyo solidifying their friendship. I did like the way the screen melted away to reveal Iroha standing in front of Yachiyo, almost like a mirror image. Sadly, that’s the only thing I liked about it LOL. Iroha getting angry at Yachiyo was such an important development and such a huge moment for our protagonist, but here it just... doesn’t happen? She’s still the same smiling and gentle Iroha we always knew. Which is nice and all, but in my opinion, we really needed to see kindhearted and soft-spoken Iroha truly snap. We needed to see Iroha speak up and tell Yachiyo to cut her bs and to declare herself the leader. And the way Yachiyo accepts so quickly and hardly even tries to put up an argument is just... I don’t even know what to say anymore apart from constantly question why they had to rush so many crucial moments, to the point where they had zero emotional impact. I often wonder if I’d still have these complaints if I didn’t play the game and have expectations of how I wanted/wished/expected certain things to be adapted. So I dunno, maybe I wouldn’t have a problem with these things at all if I went into the anime blind ^^;;
Oh, and another thing that made zero sense to me was how Iroha went from being perfectly normal to unable to walk or talk within the span of about two seconds. Logically, I get that she probably used up too much magic one-shot-ing that Rumour just before, but they could’ve at least had her show some signs of physical strain during her talk with Yachiyo so that the sudden transition of her physical state doesn’t feel so abrupt and out of nowhere. I guess this is a minor detail that I can let slide, but it just reminds the viewer again and again of the problems that come with rushing. And rushing for what? Well...
The second half of the episode is an obvious answer. They were clearly rushing these game-story moments to fill up the rest of the episode with anime-original content. And while I’m still bitter at what the cost was, I will ironically say that the second half of this week’s episode had some very pleasant and interesting surprises! (Apologies for all the salt and negativity so far ^^;; Finally, onto the positives!)
I’d been wondering for a while if we were going to meet Holy Mami this week, even though the anime had already established Mami as a member of the Wings of Magius earlier on. And I did genuinely like the way they portrayed Mami in this scene. She legitimately looks out of her mind at some points, and it’s clear that the truth about Magical Girls has taken a huge toll on her mentally. Her mini battle with Yachiyo was short but sweet, with lots of nice movements and imagery, especially this shot right here:
The ribbon concealing her eyes and her Soul Gem (aka her soul and her actual self) is a really, really nice way of depicting that Mami is not really in her right state of mind, and that her current actions aren’t really her. I know a lot of fans didn’t like the brainwashing thing in the game, and even though it looks like they’re still keeping that in the anime (judging by Mami’s behaviour, she definitely seems brainwashed to me), at least they’re portraying it in a nice way. By the way, I applaud Yachiyo for being able to defend herself against Mami for so long with a whole person on her back xD
Sayaka was probably my favourite thing out of the entire episode. Again, like with Holy Mami, I was really hoping we’d get to see her this week ^^ I loved how her entrance parallels the way she saved Homura from Mami in Rebellion, and I’m sure hardcore fans will pick up on that before her identity is even revealed ;) Sayaka was never my favourite character out of the Holy Quintet (even though I still liked her a lot!), but oh my gosh she was amazing in this episode. I think it’s something to do with the cape? Maybe it’s the cape LOL but gosh she really did seem like a knight-in-shining-armour askjfha;sj (♥ω♥*)
And back to Mami... that part with her losing her mind (literally) after Sayaka shows up was creepy but also perfect. I like that she seemed to temporarily regain her sense of self when talking to Sayaka, but then just the talk of her guilt and shame and everything just comes back to haunt her again, and we see her succumb and lose herself once more. I didn’t think her transformation into Holy Mami would be portrayed in this way, but this is better than what I imagined. You actually get a sense of how painful the process is, and feel how much against her will it is to fall to a point where she’d hurt her friends and other innocent people. The whole idea is disturbing, but each time I think back on her reaction to finding out the truth in the original anime, this really doesn’t seem too far-fetched at all.
That entire battle between Mami and Sayaka/Yachiyo was kind of cool and kind of weird at the same time xD Honestly I can’t imagine Sayaka and Yachiyo to be able to run around freely with that many bullets flying all over the place, much less repel all of them, which Sayaka is shown doing at one point xD Iroha using her Doppel again is another thing that I didn’t really like, though. I just really don’t like how Iroha is always shown to be utterly useless fighting in her Magical Girl form and always has to end up relying on her Doppel to do anything. (Except for that previous battle with the Rumour that I discussed just before. Let’s not get me started on that again lmao.) But it’s nice to see Yachiyo using her Doppel as well (it looked really cool!), and I really liked that minor detail about how easy it is to lose yourself when using your Doppel. It’s not something we think much about when playing the game because of the game mechanics, so it’s always interesting to think about what the Doppels entail from a story perspective :) Anyway, despite some logical inconsistencies and Iroha resorting to her Doppel yet again, I did really enjoy this battle, and it definitely made up for the lackluster “battle” that we got with Iroha and the Rumour. We can really see where the budget went this week, huh xD
I also really loved how Touka literally just sits there sipping tea and ignores all the chaos happening around her. She shows no desire to help Mami or step in just in case something happens to her (since Mami’s on their side now and all), which, to me, really goes to show how purely cold-hearted Touka is. Or has become. (Shhh game spoilers xD)
And while we’re on the topic of Touka, I’m going to talk about how much I absolutely adored that final scene. It’s hard to visualise it while playing the game, so seeing the scale of the Wings of Magius was possibly frightening. We’ve always known that there are heaps of Feathers, but just seeing them all packed together in one big creepy dark hall, all cloaked and hooded, really goes to show the immense size of this cult. It’s not just some small club created by a few girls. The scale of this cult is insane. As for Touka’s speech? Inspirational. And I say that with full knowledge of the Magius’ crimes and wrongdoings. Honestly, with the way she speaks, I can’t imagine many Magical Girls being able to say no and walk away if they knew The Truth already. Touka is one amazing and charismatic speaker, and even though we’ve always known that she had to be to some extent to get so many Feathers, seeing it in action was truly a different experience. Terrifyingly persuasive and frighteningly charismatic, that child.
And that is why I applaud Rena. She’s able to stand among so fellow Magical Girls, listen to someone preach about salvation after literally just finding out the truth and learning about her own inevitable fate, not know of the dark side of the Magius, and still be able to walk away. Rena gained a new level of respect from me with that one simple decision, and I already loved her heaps before this. And Kaede really did join the Wings of Magius, huh :O We even got a shot of Kuroe! Welcome back (?), girl! xD
I quite liked how they showed the rest of Team Mikazuki joining in such a subtle way. It’s much more impactful to tease it like this rather than straight-up showing you the process of them joining right from the get-go. The way they end the season like this leaves a very haunting and unsettling feeling, especially considering that Iroha gets taken away from Yachiyo as well! Now that definitely wasn’t in the game!!! xD I was expecting the season to finish with Iroha and Yachiyo back at Mikazuki Villa alone and swearing to save the rest of the team, so this definitely came as a HUGE surprise to me. I’m really curious as to how they’re going to go about this change, as well as the change with Kaede joining up and the obvious Kuroe thing. (Btw Sayaka literally sweeping Yachiyo away like Prince Charming almost had me swooning LOL Sayaka was seriously SO COOL in this episode!)
And finally, we have Alina. I’m honestly still pissed off at how they handled her introduction, and wonder if anime-only fans can even tell that she’s a Magius and not just a Feather or some other kind of position (like Mifuyu), but I did enjoy the final scene of her. I think it makes it quite clear that Alina is going to be one of the Biggest Bosses, even among the antagonists, and the way she name-drops Walpurgisnacht was not what I expected but a pretty good decision, in retrospect. Anime-only fans will definitely feel that sense of familiarity they want just by hearing that name. Since this Witch is so iconic to the original anime and we probably won’t be seeing her until the very end of the next season, I think it was a nice idea to drop the name here to keep those anime-fans who expect lots of explicit PMMM references happy and hooked. In fact, the combination of Holy Mami and Sayaka’s appearance and the mention of Walpurgisnacht all in one episode makes me think they packed them all into the season finale to ensure that these anime-only PMMM fans will be back again for the next season (since us game players will almost definitely be back anyway haha xD).
Oh, and that ending song is so good! I loved “Alicia”, but this song was a really nice way to end the season and had a definite kind of “season finale” feel to it.
So yeah, that basically sums up my thoughts for this jam-packed episode xD Lots of stuff I feel could have been handled A LOT better, but also a lot of stuff that was absolutely amazing. The second half was significantly better than the first; that fight with Holy Mami and the ending with Touka and Alina were definitely the best parts.
I’ll be writing up another review post for the season as a whole and posting it separately, so I’ll end this one here and save my overall impressions for that one ^^ If you’ve read to the end, thanks so much for reading and I hope to see you there as well ღゝ◡╹)ノ♡
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‘babylove’?
requested: nope
warnings: nothing this is really cute (language is a given at this point)
pairings: tom holland x reader
type: fluff ; headcanon/list ; 2k+ words ; gender neutral
summary: it's the first time you visit the holland's at their home in london, and you're trying your hardest to impress everyone. you aren't tom's lover just yet, but it's obvious that you two fancy each other.
disclaimer: the depictions of tom holland and the holland family in this are of my own imagination. none of this is real!
a/n: another oldie of mine refurbished and posted here! back when my writing was Decent LOL.
p.s., the dialog isn’t like it is with my latest ones as in y/n gets italics and bold n everyone else just gets italics. it’s just emphasized when need be, and i thought it was alright that way. srry if it bothers anyone who reads my newer stuff!! adding in a disclaimer from now on too. never got someone thinking something was real, but it’s good to be prepared :-)
also, when i put things in parentheses, it's usually me putting in my reactions.
"PIP PIP 'N CHEERIO GOVENAH!"
"y/n we don't actually say that"
"tom, i have to get myself situated. with the boiling tea and crumpet chip biscuit whatevers.”
YEEHAW. you're traveling to meet tom's family back in london.
you've met harry, sam, and harrison already, but there were still three very important people to meet
you had met tom through a mutual actor friend who brought you on set one day
obviously it went like a fairy tale
your friend left you alone on set while they went to get snacks for you both
tom seen you, and came to tell you that only actors could be on set at that time
causing you to freak out, because UH, spider-man is speaking to you (ohMygOd, it'spEterparker)
which of course made tom cocky, and he was like "ayyyyy baby i'll give u an autograph"
then your friend came back and officially introduced you two
and tom saying "you're friends with y/f/n? i'm so sorry"
"i know. it's tragic."
"you two are perfect for each other" with an eye roll
so to say the least, you and tom had sparks from the beginning
not to mention the backhanded, sarcastic compliments that often lead to flirty and witty comebacks
"you're cute, for 5′8″.
"good thing you have a good personality because that outfit today was... :/"
"just wait until i see you again. you're dead, holland"
"well why don't you come over right now and show me what you'd do?”
going over to play wrestle until you dominate him and straddle his hips while your breath is hitched and he'd just look up at you like "holy fuck"
with the whole banter situation taking place, it kind of shocked you when tom asked you if you wanted to visit his family with him
like, REALLY took you off guard
because this was really domestic of him, and he hadn't really ever showed that side to you
but nonetheless, you took the opportunity
took a bit of persuading to get your family to allow you, but eventually, everyone agreed.
(boy it's a good thing you got that passport that you totally didn't get for the sole purpose of this occurring)
"as long as you call every morning and night, and text when necessary. and take pics."
lots of preparation through facetime
"i heard it's really fuckin' cold in england. should i pack a parka?"
"y/n it's not that cold. plus you won't need two."
"what do you mean i won't need two if i-"
in a thick accent "peta parka."
"...."
deep sigh
"can i get a refund for my ticket"
"don't think so, love" in a soft laughing tone
(AAAAHHHHHH)
after two or so weeks of packing and unpacking, and checking the checklist fifty times, it was finally time to depart to southwest london, darling
this boy got first class tickets for the both of you
or at least that's what he thought
he actually only got one for himself lmao
so instead, he swapped seats with the person beside you
oh my god shy hand holding on the plane would be expected
also cute little candids that would go up on each others instagrams wow
fast forward to arriving at the holland home
p.s., the entire car ride there was filled with little thigh touches to try and calm you down.
but that only made you more nervous because god have mercy this beautiful boy wasn't trying to act funny or anything like he usually acted, he was being genuine and that made your heart full
once at the door, you were greeted by nikki, dom, and a very excited tessa
"hello love! it's so nice to meet you! tom has told us SOOO mu-"
"DAD!!!!" would be said between clenched teeth while he would be blushing
with red cheeks of your own, you'd walk in to see the two brothers you had previously met, and a new face, who you recognized as paddy
sam and harry would say hello, but paddy would whisper yell to one of the brothers, "is that who tom calls his 'babylove'?"
both you and tom would just stand there, his jaw would drop and one of your eyebrows would raise up
and you'd turn to tom with a huge smile and just whisper "babylove?"and he'd blush even harder and be like "let me show you to your room!!!!!!!!!”
he'd bring you upstairs and into the guestroom so you could put your stuff up
then you'd follow him to his old room, and you'd sit on his bed and just have a look around while he piled his clothes into a hamper
hear me out
there would be little spider-man symbols across the wall, with some football flags strung up every so often
and you'd be like "you really weren't lying about your obsession with spidey, huh?"
and he'd come and sit beside you and shrug while looking at his old decorations
you'd lean in and give him a lil kiss on the cheek before saying "it's really cute, tom." and he'd immediately light up and become a shy baby
then you'd hear footsteps coming up the stairs, and you'd pull away from each other with cute little grins
sam would look in and be like "mom wants to know what ya want for dinner"
and tom would turn to you and be like "well?"
and you'd insist that he choose, since he hasn't been home in awhile
he'd say something he heard you talking about wanting to try
sam would leave and then you'd just nonchalantly grab tom's hand and follow sam down
once down there, you'd be met by the family, minus nikki and sam who would venture into the kitchen
you'd let go of tom's hand, and sit by paddy on the couch
little conversations would start up from dom
literally just things like "so tom said you can sing" and "tom said you guys met through a friend of yours?"
he wouldn't even have to ask you questions directly because tom has told them virtually everything because the boy was swoon as fuck
but after a little while of tom and the rest of the family in sight getting caught up, you decided to slip out of view yourself and join nikki and sam in the kitchen
a "hey sweetheart! whatcha need?" coming from nikki
but you'd be like "i just wanted to know if you guys wanted an extra hand?"
sam would be like "hell yea y/n knows how ta cook"
but nikki would be like "that's alright, it's our pleasure to treat a guest of tom's! thank you though, that's really sweet"
so you'd walk back into the living room after a few "are you sure?"'s
and dom would be like "kicked out of the kitchen?" with a small laugh
and you'd answer with "yeah. you holland's are stubborn."
which would definitely make tom pout, and your response would be to pat his cheek and say "pouting wont exclude you," followed with a quiet "babylove." while you dropped your hand
some time passed before nikki and sam returned, and nikki said dinner would be ready in about thirty minutes
those thirty minutes consisted of the family sharing embarrassing stories about tom
and him eventually hiding his red cheeks in the crook of your neck (sweet god)
soon, the timer went off and everyone made their way into the kitchen and got their plates
tbh i see the family taking all the seats around tom, so you'll get to sit in between dom and nikki
(i'd love that holy shit)
after dinner, you helped wash the dishes. that earned major brownie points from nikki and sam
it was getting kind of late, so the family suggested watching a movie or two together
oh my god tom would take you upstairs again and tell you to change into your pajamas because that was a tradition for movie night
wearing batman pajama bottoms knowing it would tease him
him refusing to let you go downstairs before changing into a pair of his spider-man bottoms
giving in once he gives you the puppy dog eyes while his forehead is pressed against yours
watching some sort of proper english movie because it was your first time visiting
angus, thongs and perfect snogging came into mind
harry loudly asking if you and tom ever snogged like that
cuddling with tom under a big blanket
when the family started to get a little drowsy, they decided to call it a night
everyone started to head upstairs, and you and tom did the same after grabbing a few snacks and some drinks
once in his room, you'd sit on his bed and just smirk at him until he'd ask what was up
and you'd immediately be like "what's up with this lovey dovey side of you? you usually act like a sarcastic shit around me"
he'd just look down and press his hand against the nape of his neck and mumble "i like you"
and you'd say "well i got that part awhile ago"
but he'd sit there for a few seconds, trying to think of a way to say what he had in mind. he finally sighed and spoke out to you, "i mean, i think i'm falling in love with you"
and you'd sit there with your lips parted, and your eyes darting back and forth between his
he'd start to blabber on about how it was just a strategy that he used because he didn't know how to show you how he really, truly felt
and you'd cut him off, and say "can i kiss you?"
and a few seconds of silence would take place before he would cup your cheeks and empty all the passion he held in his body out in one single kiss, while you would do the same
after you both pull away, he'd lower his hands and you'd both just sit and stare at each other
you'd raise your hand up and cup his cheek and rub your thumb across his cheekbone
eventually, you would say you're tired, and press a small kiss against his lips before getting up and heading for the door
"goodnight, thomas."
"goodnight, y/full/n."
shutting the door and doing a happy dance all the way to the guest room
it's sunday morning, and you couldn't get any more sleep in due to the kiss from the night before still swimming through your memory
finally deciding on getting up and cooking breakfast for everyone to return all the love you were given the day before
carefully sneaking down to the kitchen
taking a long ass time to find all the ingredients you initially needed (oils, other stuff)
googling measurement equals because what american knows european measurements off the tom of their head
deciding on making some fancy omelette roll ups you once had with your actor friend
taking so much time to make everything perfect
when you finished making the omelette's, along with some other sides, you would set everything out for easy serving, and then you would head upstairs again
since it was a sunday, everyone slept in
you'd gently knock on everyone's door, and say breakfast was waiting for them downstairs
but when you got to tom's door, you'd softly knock before heading on in
tom would be sleeping on the side of the bed that faced the window, and you would walk over to that side and crouch down
you would subconsciously lay your bent arm on the bed by toms face, and lay your head on your arm. you'd raise your free hand up to toy with a few loose curls while you looked over his features
he'd eventually wake up, and smile in a way that was really wide, but evidently tired
he would kiss your forehead and say "what a good way to wake up; an angel playing with my hair." you'd giggle really quietly and stand up while saying "c'mon, babylove. i've made breakfast."
and he'd pull you down onto the bed with him, and pepper little kisses against your shoulders, collarbones, neck, and cheeks before pressing a lingering kiss to your lips!!!
while he rested his forehead against yours, you decided to confess something you totally forgot to last night, "by the way," you'd say in a really soft voice while swiping a messy curl from his temple, "i think i'm falling in love with you, too."
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unpopular opinion: i don’t like rowan/rowaelin. i’m not here to convince u to unstan lol ppl are allowed to like/dislike things w/o feeling bad about it omg but i hate that some rowan stans are so insensitive when it comes to those who don’t like him! they’re so thirsty for him that they condemn anyone who doesn’t stan him & then excuse his problematic/lowkey triggering actions bc he’s hot and it’s gross. AGAIN not saying ppl can’t like rowan it’s ok lol but it’s more about some stan’s behavior
That’s totally fair my angel. I dislike the vibe that some people are locked out of the fandom for not being a cheerleader for every aspect of the series, and I hope that my followers/mutuals know that if they dislike stuff I like, or like stuff I dislike, expressing their opinions regarding that won’t ever cause me to cut them off (unless it’s like, some truly gross shit, which disliking rowaelin isn’t).
Also I have to say, even tho I do like rowaelin, I understand where you’re coming from about people excusing his actions because he’s hot. I’ve toooooootally seen that. And I’ll just be 100% honest - no shade to anyone, but some of the rowaelin content on this website disturbs me a little bit, in terms what’s considered hot/romantic/acceptable when writing or depicting them in art. I’ve seen some weird stuff defended as hot or even just “not that bad.” Which isn’t necessarily a problem with canon, but your ask was more about stans anyway, so yeah.
A while ago I actually wrote rowaelin meta in response to some other peeps (which was more about Aelin in relation to Rowaelin and how she’s included or not included in discussions of the ship, but it has some thoughts relevant to this ask) so I’m gonna just copy and paste what I wrote below and feel free to read if u want. (It’s like very overdramatic and fiery lmao but anyway).
I agree with a lot of this, but (at risk of derailing ms aelinapologist’s amazing post) I do have a few things to say, which are
1. OP took two whole paragraphs at the beginning of her post to say that the point wasn’t to discourse about rowaelin being abuse or not abuse, it was to talk about how the conversations centering around said abuse consistently display a disturbing lack of empathy for the character who should be the main concern of the debate. So I just find it a bit funny/odd that the replies (including a portion of the one I’m about to make, I admit that) have been like “Yeah great post! And now to discourse about Rowaelin-” but I digress.
2. I have consistently loved reading about Rowan and Aelin and they’re one of my favorite fictional couples. So nothing I’m about to say is intended to be like “GOTCHA they suck and you suck for liking them!!!” Because I like them as well. A lot. And in addition, nothing about this reblog is intended to be shady or confrontational in any way shape or form. I just think this is a great and very needed discussion I’d like to contribute to, so here goes.
3. Even if we look at HoF alone and ignore how things play out later: yes, they are both mean to one another, yes, they are both in a dark place and end up having a mutually positive effect on one another (so I definitely agree that, at least for HoF alone, it’s not a “douchey guy changes for the heroine story”) but. There IS still a power imbalance. I don’t think it’s entirely accurate to say “they were both bad The End” without also bringing up the fact that Rowan is 300 years old and Aelin is 18, and that Rowan is training Aelin and is in a position that gives him a massive amount of control over her, and that he is stronger and more powerful than her physically, magically, and socially (he is a prince and legendary warrior, she is a AWOL teenage princess currently working as a scullery maid).
Maybe I’m reading into it too much, but I really just don’t think that Aelin, a 17 y/o girl going through an unimaginably shitty time, being like “fuck you!!” to this 300 y/o jerk who doesn’t know shit about her is on the same level as aforementioned 300 y/o jerk hitting her, biting her, and telling her she would have been of more use to the world if she’d died when she was eight.
And in addition to that, we see that his behavior effects her a lot more than it effects him. When he verbally tears her down, we see her experience genuine and devastating despair and shame, whereas everything she does and says to him, no matter how snarky or outright cruel, is not having that same effect on him. People always seem to think they’re giving Aelin credit for being a Strong Woman™ by saying “she’s tough! she can handle it!” when in reality… we have evidence for the fact that she kinda can’t handle it. That the way he treats her in the beginning is slowly wearing her down and sending her deeper into a depressive state. And I don’t understand how it somehow reflects poorly on Aelin (or is even misogynist) to acknowledge this. Women, especially literal teenage girls, should not be measured by their tolerance for mistreatment.
All I really wish is that somewhere along the line we’d gotten a genuine apology from Rowan for this besides a throwaway line in KoA about regretting their “brawling.” And again, none of this is to say “see!! it IS abuse!!” it’s just to suggest that, even as an enemies to friends to lovers story, the “enemies” part was not exactly on a level playing field.
4. But with that being said, I could probably forgive the imbalance in their early relationship, mostly because their later relationship, as both friends and lovers, is so amazing and supportive in pretty much every way. And the great thing about enemies to FRIENDS to lovers, like you said, is that 1) none of the assholery occurred during any kind of romantic or sexual relationship or a transition into one, so it was sort of “fair and square” in that way, and 2) they had the opportunity form a solid, platonic foundation of trust and caring before they crossed into the lover territory.
Aaaaaaaaaand then Sarah did a retcon job on HoF which negated… pretty much all of that. I can totally be down with “good old fashioned mutual hatred thaws into caring which grows into love” but once we start hearing shit like “‘Sometimes, you’d be sleeping beside me at Mistward, and it’d take all my concentration not to lean over and bite them. Bite you all over’” and “‘That was the first time I really lost control around you, you know. I wanted to chuck you off a cliff, yet I bit you before I knew what I was doing. I think my body knew, my magic knew. And you tasted… So good. I hated you for it’”……. hhhhhhhhhhh.
I can’t think of many arguments for this NOT contributing at least a little to the “he’s mean because he loves you (and stick it out because someday he’ll figure it out)” trope. And while it might be a bit different because Aelin was quite mean as well, her behavior was just… meanness. Not some sort of weird outlet for repressed sexual attraction/love. I guess I just get flashbacks of “No sweetie, that boy in your class kicks your desk, pulls your hair, and calls you names because he likes you and doesn’t know how to express it.”
And I think this decision on Sarah’s part to go back and say he was into her all along is 1) a result of the mating bond thing she’s so fond of and 2) kind of a panicked backpedalling to the backlash she might have gotten over Rowan’s behavior in HoF? Which is…. so ironic because she made it SO much worse. In my humble opinion, she should have just doubled down on what she originally wrote as enemies-friends-lovers (and had Rowan bring up his early behavior and apologize in some way), and the problem would have been solved. And while I personally feel that I can recognize this for what it is - a shitty retcon - and enjoy the relationship despite it, I don’t think we should talk over people for whom this is a deal-breaker for the ship.
5. I don’t think about all of this and have the reaction that so many “anti tog” people seem to have of “FUCK Rowan he’s ABUSIVE and PREDATORY and I wish he was DEAD!!!” I think there are things to criticize about his behavior and about the way Sarah decided to spin their relationship, but they have had many great moments, especially in the later books, and I don’t think I or anyone else is “shipping abuse” by enjoying that. All of this is just to emphasize how, in OP’s very succinct words, “your inalienable right to enjoy two characters’ dynamic does not outweigh the right to criticise it.” Because there ARE valid things to criticize, and we as Rowaelin shippers (lol.) need to be careful not to conflate ugly hatred with valid criticism when we speak over it.
And because there IS so much ugly hatred for Aelin and her relationship with Rowan on this website, I completely understand why there’s a kind of knee-jerk reaction of jumping to defense of this ship we love. But that impulse, quite frankly, means nothing to me if defense of Rowaelin includes the erasure of Aelin’s canonical experiences. And maybe this is wacky and controversial, but I’m pretty sure we can express our enjoyment of Rowaelin AND keep Aelin as an individual from being swept under the rug.
6. More than saying any of that what I really really want to do (and have been trying to do in the previous paragraphs, but maybe unsuccessfully) is bring the conversation back to OP’s original point which was not “abuse!” or “not abuse!” but about how the ways in which we discuss “abuse or not abuse” often includes a stomach-turning lack of concern for Aelin and some frustratingly reductive arguments. And somehow I have the sneaking suspicion that Rowaelin shippers are reading this post and missing the point, which that this is happening on BOTH sides of the argument.
Everyone is perfectly entitled to ship Rowaelin and argue their opinion about its merits or lack thereof, but when we cover our ears and say “she was mean too she was mean too she was mean too she was mean too la la la la la la la” that’s completely ignoring the genuine pain that she did experience in HoF and the power imbalance that she was subjected to, no matter whether or not we personally feel that it was sufficiently rectified in later books.
And I see this ALL THE TIME, in both the fandom and “anti-fandom”, and I’m honest to god quite sick of it. I’m sick of the willful ignorance of a teenage girl’s pain in order to further an agenda. Yes, it’s more stomach-turning when the agenda is to prove what an evil bitch she is or whatever, but it’s not excusable if your agenda is to prove Rowaelin is great, either! And I don’t understand why we have to throw all nuance out the window and ignore how Dorian hurt her, ignore how Chaol hurt her, ignore how Rowan hurt her, fucking hell, ignore how SAM hurt her, just so we can make our arguments! Because as much as the antis love to scream about “WHAT MESSAGE IS THIS TERRIBLE SHIP SENDING THE TINY GIRL-CHILDREN WHO READ THE BOOKS???” it’s also like, what kind of message is our ongoing discussion of it sending by sweeping a teenage girl’s experiences under the rug when we argue about her relationships?
And like OP said, what have we even got to show for it? No conclusion has been reached, nothing has been achieved besides valuing a romance (or the hatred of that romance and preference for a different romance) over individual characters, namely an individual character who happens to be a teenage girl that has suffered an ungoldy amount - suffered, sometimes, at the hands of male characters we like.
In conclusion, the mass allergy everyone seems to have to giving a shit about Aelin unless its to further their agenda is sickening. If I had a dollar for every time I’ve had to hear about how poor Manon’s character was “ruined” by Manorian (although not directly by DORIAN, of course, because apparently Saint Haviliard can do no wrong) I’d have enough money to buy a lamborghini and drive it off a cliff like I wish I could every time I hear someone’s terrible hot take about how Aelin is complicit in her own alleged abuse. Yet somehow I’ve never heard anyone complain about the damage done to Aelin’s character by any of the male characters, including Rowan. It’s never “Rowan ruined Aelin’s character!!” it’s “Rowaelin sucks and so does Aelin.” In fact, one of the REASONS Aelin sucks in the first place IS Rowan/Rowaelin! What a great implicit message to send to people reading your “critiques”: if you are annoying and #problematic enough, your suffering will be used against you and you will receive no sympathy for it. Cool!
And for other ships, too: it’s never “Chaol and Dorian, while at points a very good for Aelin, also caused her a lot of pain” it’s either “Chaol was right about Aelin in QoS and both he and Dorian are ruined because of her #chaorian” OR, from the fans, who, again, are not off the hook, “Chaol and Dorian and Aelin are BFFs forever #originaltrio.” And as a teenage girl myself, who loves and identifies with Aelin, who is more invested in her story than anyone else’s… I’m just tired. And more than a little appalled. And I wish we could do better.
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Chat x David fanfic
I’m gonna make this very simple and clear.
Don’t like, don’t fucking read.
I don’t appreciate negativity. It’s not constructive criticism. I don’t even want that either lmao. This is all just for fun.
I can’t put this under a read more either. I’m on mobile.
I know how tumblr is. So just shut your mouth if you don’t like my stuff.
Also, if you have never heard anything of @yeennqueenn ‘s original universe of object heads, (which I like to call the ‘belliverse,’) I suggest you don’t read. You will most likely be confused.
Tags: vague depiction of sex, vague mention of past sexual abuse, fluff, ummm...can’t think of anything else. Lemme know if I’ve missed any.
Here we go lmao.
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Soft giggles filled the room as the two men plopped onto the bed, one on top of the other, tickling him until he couldn’t breathe. “AHA- AHAHAHA- Chat, st-ahP! Oh-hah-oh my ga-hahaha-ahd! Chaaat, you’re killing me!”
The larger of the two, David, was turning red from laughter and embarrassment. “Nnnnope! You started this, David,” said Chat, laughing maniacally.
“Okay, okay! I surrender! No-AHA- no more tickles!” “Are you suuuure?” “Ye-AHAHA-es! Chaaaat, please!” At that, he finally stopped. But the moment he did, his mind began to wander.
“Ye-AH-es! ChAAAT, PLEASE, OH MY,” David cried out, covering his mouth. Chat’s body was moving, but his mind was still. Calm, even. He watched as the man before him covered his mouth and rolled his eyes back in his head. Chat admired every feature -every detail- on that wonderful face and body of his. He loved the way he bit his lip and scrunched his nose as he tried to hold back the noise he oh-so badly wanted to make, how his toes curled and his back arched as pleasure took over his rational thinking and ability to form coherent words. And oh, how he adored that expression. It was one of pure bliss, extreme ecstasy even, and it was all his doing. He made David feel this way. He was the reason for all of these lovely features being shown in the most intimate, trusting way possible. And he was loving every minute of it.
“Ch-chat, o-OH LORD, PLEASE, MORE! CHAT- chat? Chat! Chat, are you here? Helloooo?” And with that, he was snapped out of his fantasy. His face was as red as a blossoming rose in June. He turned his head away, so David wasn’t able to see his expression, but that didn’t stop something else a bit...lower down from being quite visible. And quite visible, it was. Chat quickly scrambled to get off of David, and lie on the bed.
“U-uh...y-es, yeah, i’m here. Uh, sorry, hah. I kind of...spaced out a little.” “It’s alright. What were you thinking about?” Chat immediately became a stuttering mess with a lot of “um”s and “uh”s in between.
“H-hey! Chat, it’s okay, you don’t need to tell me! Don’t worry, I won’t judge you,” David reassured calmly. He seemed to either not care to point out, or just not notice Chat’s little...predicament.
Chat averted his gaze, and turned his body towards the other side of the bed, facing away from David. He felt incredibly...worked up from his earlier daydream. He shifted uncomfortably in his position, and sighed. “N-no...I want to tell you. It’s just...embarrassing.”
David didn’t ask Chat to face him or turn back around. Instead, he moved closer to chat, and spooned him from behind, gently wrapping his arms around Chat’s abdomen. “...well, you don’t have to tell me if you find it that embarrassing. I won’t make you. However, I am very curious. You were out of it for a good three minutes or so. You wouldn’t respond to any of my names for you. I wonder what could have gotten such a...strong reaction out of you. If you would like to talk about it, I’m all ears.”
Chat contemplated for a moment. Was he really ready for this? What if he got too scared in the middle, and wanted to back out? What if he couldn’t truly satisfy David properly? What if David was weirded out by his daydream? Many questions swarmed his mind. Chat whimpered anxiously, and then took a breath and sighed. “...I want to tell you...but I’m scared.”
David’s eyes widened, and his expression changed to one of confusion and concern. “Chat, what are you scared of? Have I done something? I’m sorry if I’ve made you feel uncomfortable someho-“ but he was cut off before his ramblings could continue.
“N-NON! non, vous n'avez rien fait de mal,” he blurted out, turning back to face David. Chat took a deep breath. “No, you haven’t done anything wrong. It’s just...hard...to talk about for me. A-and I know my fears are irrational, but...I still have worries and reservations about it,” he said. “B-but I think I’m ready...or at least as ready as i’ll ever be...to talk about it.” He paused for a moment before continuing. “...when I was on top of you...my mind wandered off. And then...suddenly, your screams of joy and laughter turned into...m-moans...a-and screams of p-pleasure. And I know it sounds..weird...but it’s been on my mind for a while, and I had no idea how to bring it up. B-but I guess the opportunity presented itself in a way, heh,” he laughed nervously. “...I had never thought I would be able to even think about having sex with someone again...not after him. But...you just...you’ve proven me wrong. And...if you don’t mind...I want to try...maybe. I-I don’t know if I would want to right now, but I certainly...wouldn’t mind trying eventually.”
David listened intently to every word, not looking away for even a second as Chat discussed what was on his mind. He blushed and became quite flustered when Chat explained his daydream in a quite detailed manner to him, but despite his embarrassment, he was very grateful for the fact that Chat felt comfortable enough in their relationship to talk about this with him. He smiled as Chat explained how he had been thinking about this for a while, but his smile faded as he heard about him. He listened painfully as Chat talked about how he had made him feel, but was revived with hope and pride when he described how that wouldn’t deter him any longer, and how he himself had made Chat able to think about pursuing something so intimate once again. After all this time...all they had been through together...Chat felt like he was ready to take that step again. And David couldn’t be more happy or proud of him for that than he was in that exact moment.
“Chat...my love...I’m so glad you feel comfortable enough to think this way. I’m happy you are able to be so open with me...and I would love to try having sex with you when you’re ready. It makes me nothing but ecstatic to hear that our relationship is strong enough for you to conquer that fear you have from previous events in your life, and share such an intimate act with me. I love you, Chat, and whenever you feel like it’s time for you to take that step, you come to me, and we can discuss how we want to go about it. I will make sure you are as comfortable as possible, and that you have every way to opt out if you so choose. I love you, Chat.”
As David said what he had to say, he made eye contact with Chat. He held it all the while he was speaking, to make sure Chat knew every moment of it was genuine. Chat was on the verge of tears. Not ones of pain, or sadness, but ones of happiness, and relief. He couldn’t be happier than he was in that exact moment, and he felt the need to express it properly with words. “I...-“ he paused for a moment to breathe “-I love you, David,” he said, clinging tightly to David’s chest. David just smiled, and reciprocated the gesture. “J’taime, too, Chat,” he said in a hushed tone, letting out a deep, tiny chuckle at his own attempt to speak Chat’s language.
They stayed intertwined like that for the rest of the night, David petting Chat’s head and Chat clinging to David, falling asleep fairly quickly. They would get there eventually, but that night, they would sleep soundly in each other’s arms, as if letting go would separate them for all eternity.
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exo as doms or subs
a/n; so uh i know i’ve been Dead for a long time but this is just a lil update while i finally commit to finishing a fic [also i’m gonna add the read more at the top again bc it’s uhh lengthy this time....] [also again uh the fic should be up soon!!]
junmyeon;
overall;
alright he’s a dom
but i honestly don’t think he’s a hardcore dom with a big ass daddy kink
i mean ok he has a daddy kink but it’s,, idk he isn’t as hardcore as i’ve seen him depicted as
anyway i think in general he’s probably got a big ass daddy kink
and he’d love giving you cute nicknames and even cuter lingerie
but i don’t think he’d be into too many different kinks
i do believe he’d have set kinks and wouldn’t really want to stray from them too much
however! he’d be happy to indulge a few of yours as long as they didn’t go against anything he wasn’t into
i don’t think he’d particularly like inflicting pain but if it was like a Big Kink for you then he’d indulge it a lil bit
so yeah uh in conclusion he’s definitely in charge and he’s definitely a top but i don’t necessarily think he’s an ultra hardcore dom
kinks:
daddy
probably only likes indulging a pain kink in the form of spanking (giving)
lingerie ! (i think especially silk) (on you)
light restriction (giving)
hand holding oof
praise (giving)
lowkey enjoys receiving praise though
punishments;
wouldn’t be many
you could definitely get away with quite a lot
but, if he finally Snapped and got to it then you’d definitely know oof
he would be really irritated that it actually got to a point where he had to punish you
because he expects a lot more of you than for you to act up like that
so he’d probably stick to spanking as a punishment but i don’t think he’d talk or say anything throughout
doesn’t really use any other but would occasionally overstimulate you
aftercare;
completely over the top
he’s very thorough
asks a million questions so he knows you’re feeling ok
hates the idea that he might have either hurt you/not made you feel good enough
probably orders takeout and watches a movie you’ve both seen a hundred times before
is just very focused on you feeling good and being in a good mood before you sleep
would be very attentive if you wanted to talk to him
but he’d also be very quiet if you seemed to just want to chill out and not say anything
overall i think he’d just be very good at handling aftercare even if it wasn’t entirely necessary
minseok;
overall;
a dom
a dom i am thoroughly afraid of
anyway he’s the biggest dom in exo don’t @ me on this
i think he’s probably lowkey a sadist
his kinks would also probably slip out of the bedroom sometimes but i don’t think it’d be a consistent all the time thing
lives for when you act like a brat! he’d find it so funny that you think there’s even the slightest possibility he’d overlook it
also he loves punishing you so he’d find an excuse to all the time
i also think he’d tease you in public literally all the time just because he knows he can
has no fear if you moan in public then that’s on you and he’d just be like “what was that? did you say something? repeat yourself for us”
the only time i think he’d panic over it is if it was in front of like family or something,,, which i mean now he knows not to tease you under the table of a family dinner again
really, really wants you to be vocal so he can tell that he’s making you feel good
kinks;
alright he’s got a lengthy list
but the biggest ones are:
pain (giving)
also the king of dirty talk (giving)
grinding (giving)
scratching (receiving)
hair pulling (giving)
biting (giving and receiving)
choking (giving)
light slapping (giving)
bondage (giving)
blindfolds (giving)
punishments;
so anyway punishments are one of his favourite things
absolutely adores when you just apologise/thank him without him having to tell you because ! that’s his whole ass baby
is into literally everything he can do lol
likes spanking but he finds it a lil bit repetitive (and he knows u like it)
uses orgasm denial a lot just because i mean who genuinely likes that for a long period of time
and when i say a long period of time i mean he wouldn’t really stop until you literally begged him
like. ur gonna end up crying and he’s just gonna be like “¯\_(ツ)_/¯ this is your fault, isn’t it?”
but ! if you apologise and/or beg and whine he…..melts
he’d just find it so endearing?? idk he’d love it a whole bunch
tells you to keep your hands to yourself but doesn’t tie them as a punishment
tells you to not make any noise (as a side note for this: you would literally always break this and he wouldn’t ever actually punish you over it because as i said earlier: he loves when you make noise for him)
aftercare;
so many lil forehead kisses it’s unbelievable
wants to spend a couple minutes just holding you and being silent
he’s probably pretty messy during so he’d definitely want to tidy up
wants to change the bedsheets so you gotta go shower
he’d either join you in the shower after he’s done fixing everything back up
or he’d just wait for you to be done in the bathroom before he’d insist on redressing you himself
i think he would just wanna sleep pretty soon after getting everything tidy again
but he’d pull you into a really close cuddle before he fell asleep just so he “knows you’re still there”
you’d probably ask him one night something like “where else would i go wtf”
and he’d just pull you into the exact same cuddle n be like “idk bro somewhere…….”
yixing;
overall;
anyway, he’s a dom
the only reason people don’t think he’s a dom is because of the trope that he’s an innocent confused cute dumb boy
and i mean i’m sorry to ruin that but like. he’s not
having said that i don’t know whether he’d fully pick up on your kinks/you being a sub until things get heated between you for the first time
and then i think from there he’d just get more and more comfortable in being the more dominant one
for some reason i think he’d feel a lil bit weird being overly dominant for a while? because he’d be worried about it being a dynamic you weren’t into
but i think if you reassured him about it then he’d get a lot more into it
he might not even fully realise that he’s initially being the more dominant one because it’s probably a natural reaction for him
i don’t think he’d ever bottom but i do think he’d leave it open quite often for you to take a lil bit of control and tell him what you want
he’d also be pretty stoic and blunt during because he’d already know you’re into it lmao
kinks;
just being a dom is a big kink for him
probably has a thigh kink
this man ! i bet he has an oral kink
probably mainly for giving but like…he’s not gonna say no if you offer
also lingerie (i think he’d like really fancy over the top kind of stuff) (on you)
also. he’s a romantic man you know
he lovs hand holding
and kissing !!! lots and lots of kissing
are makeout sessions classed as a kink
anyway. he also likes bondage too (giving)
punishments;
“i’m not mad i’m just disappointed”
he totally isn’t disappointed at all though we already know
he keeps the act up though!
makes you apologise when he spanks you and acts like you’ve personally offended him
isn’t into overstimulation because like he thinks that’s too nice for u
i think his biggest go-to punishment is spanking 100%
but he’s definitely into orgasm denial too just because he loves you getting desperate for him
but at the same time i don’t think he’d feel the need to punish you for a lot? like i don’t think he’d get jealous very easily so that wouldn’t be an issue
however…….teasing him……..a big No
it wld always make him so mad because. what is the reason
so if that ever happened the punishment is extended x20 i mean good luck ever getting off he can hold a grudge lol
aftercare;
actual angel or zhang yixing? who can tell
lil kisses!! forehead kisses, cheek kisses, nose kisses
wants you to eat but he can’t cook :/// so you gotta order in
ok but he’s definitely the type to wanna shower together
but…he’d be a lil bit too nervous to actually fuck in the shower because? what happens if he drops you? what happens if he falls? there’s way too much that could go wrong
would be cool with going down on you in the shower though :) lucky you
probably puts you in fancy pyjamas afterwards
then u know,, time to sleep
he doesn’t really wanna do anything else tbh he’s sleepy
jongdae;
overall;
hm i don’t think he’s massively into the dom sub roles
i think he’d have a default for being the more dominant one and he’s usually on top
but if you went to top him he wouldn’t have any issue with it
i wouldn’t say he’s vanilla but i don’t think he’d have many kinks going into a relationship
i do think more would develop the longer he was with someone
but he’d find quite a lot of kinky stuff a lil bit gross and off-putting
having said that he’d be pretty open-minded about trying new stuff with you
it might take him a while to be comfortable enough to casually talk about different things to try
but once he is it would just be completely normal to have him bring up something he’s heard of and wants to try literally anywhere
you could be sat at a breakfast table with him and he’d get halfway through his cereal before he’d be like “what about choking should we try that out?”
kinks;
ok so he’d pretty much try everything that’s not massively extreme out
but the ones he enjoyed most and wanted to do again would be
hair pulling (receiving)
bondage (giving and receiving)
light choking (giving)
dry humping (he would literally never admit to liking this because he’d be lowkey embarrassed bc it’s in his top three kinks)
marking (giving)
scratching (receiving)
punishments;
there wouldn’t be any for either of you !!
aftercare;
i think he’d either fall asleep straight after
or he’d wanna stay up and watch a movie for a lil bit
either way he’d be pretty clingy and would wanna be touching you the whole time
i know it’s annoying when people play into the tropes of their personality but oh my god he would be so whiny
just wants to cuddle and then sleep and occasionally give you about fifty kisses
baekhyun;
(i was gonna use a more recent gif but. i love this one with more than my whole heart)
overall;
an iconic switch
leaning much toward being a sub
would be a tease whether he was a bottom or a top
loves provoking you! it’s his hobby and his passion
so difficult as a sub he listens to nothing you say
laughs when you try and tell him what to do
laughs even more when you actually punish him
he literally gets so much enjoyment out of being scolded it’s ridiculous
the Biggest Brat
it’s honestly like he has a check list of stuff he isn’t supposed to do and goes through it every day
because he loves punishments but that’s beside the point
anyway, tease him in public because he absolutely loves it
he ! is ! the ! king ! of ! dirty ! talk
whether he’s the bottom or the top, he won’t shut up
kinks;
there’s so many i’ll just list a few
bondage (receiving) (also loves being restrained but bondage beats it out)
blindfolds (receiving)
choking (giving and receiving)
hair pulling (receiving)
lowkey i think he just likes being manhandled lmao
degrading (giving and receiving)
worship (giving)
praise (receiving)
ice play (receiving)
probably wax play or some shit oof (receiving)
punishments;
alright so for him very few work
your threats of not getting him off at all don’t work because “then i’ll just get myself off :)”
like i said, he loves punishments
he loves it when he gets overstimulated, he loves it when he gets his orgasms denied, he loves getting blindfolded, he loves getting tied up, he just ! loves using different kinks
however ! i feel like one he would be into but would still view as a punishment is actually spanking
like have you seen how whiny that boy is?? he pouts, he complains, he whines, he begs
so, yeah, spanking works but! he doesn’t wanna do it often just bc sometimes he just genuinely isn’t in the mood to fully indulge his/your pain kink you know
for you, though, he thinks spanking is a bit boring
he would much rather get creative with them and try and either overstimulate/deny your orgasms in public
aftercare;
is either sleepy and wants to cuddle up to you and go straight to sleep
or he wants everything to be completely over the top !
wants to cuddle and watch a movie, wants to be praised n given lil kisses, wants a warm bath with nice ass soaps, wants candy and all of his favourite foods
or he’ll literally just fall asleep the second you’re untangled from each other
you’d still try and clean him up though (to which he would pout and try to turn over so he could sleep without being disturbed)
grins really big when you give him forehead kisses !!! like !!! that’s his favourite thing about aftercare by far
if he’d been the dom, i think his aftercare would be pretty similar to him getting aftercare if that makes sense?
he’d always make sure you were ok but he’d still most likely just wanna sleep straight away
chanyeol;
overall;
i….honestly think he’s a dom
like i know a lot of people see him as a sub
but i just don’t ://
with that being said! let’s get into the theories it
i don’t think he’d be a very soft dom loll
i don’t even mean that i think he’s into really hardcore stuff i just mean that’s he rude
you’d probably be shook the first time you slept together because?? he’s always so smiley and adorable?? where did this come from??
i think he’d also forget just how BigTM he is sometimes so he might accidentally grip u too tight
but you’d be thinking it’s for the kink because i mean ur into it
and then you’d bruise and he’d be like “??? how did this happen i am the worst person”
so that’s why you two would have to actually talk about your kinks
again, he’s one of the members that wouldn’t fully realise he’s being the more dominant one until you actually discussed it lmao
kinks;
hm i don’t think he’d have many going into the relationship
but he’d definitely develop more the longer you were together!!
choking (giving)
hair pulling (giving and receiving)
body worship (receiving)
dirty talk (giving because he loves having an affect on you that isn’t like. done by him directly u know)
i think he probably likes to be giggly and light-hearted sometimes !!!!!!
hand holding because he’s soft really
restriction !!! (giving)
punishments;
honestly. he’s mean
gets a lil bit more aggressive
i think he sticks mostly to spanking
but he’d definitely be into overstimulation i just think he’d use it as more of a reward
orgasm denial is another go-to but only when he has enough effort to hold out too lol
if there was gonna be longer punishments (such as spanking/orgasm denial etc.) he would definitely make it clear you could hold his hand after a while !!
but seriously if you whined/begged him for a longer amount of time during orgasm denial bitch. he’s done ! like. punishment over. that’s his baby
aftercare;
the ONLY man i know
he’d literally go from 100 back down to 0
his dom mood is just over immediately?
he’d be really attentive !!!
if you wanted to talk then he’d listen to you ramble about stuff and answer you coherently every time
tries to make you whatever food you want or if he couldn’t he’d literally go wherever to get whatever it was with you
has a playlist to listen to if you go on drives/when you clean up
he isn’t too bothered about getting everything massively tidy but he would probably wanna shower
if you wanted to join him he’d probably wash himself off n then you :(
lots of giggling!!!! he would just be smiling at u really softly and giving you lil forehead kisses and playing with your hair while you two calmed down
sleeping w/o cuddling chanyeol would literally be considered a crime by him so if you wanna sleep after that’s the rule
kyungsoo;
overall;
haha ! goodbye
he’s a dom don’t slander his name
i think he’s probably verging on being a sadist or he just is a sadist lol
he couldn’t bottom even if he tried
and he really would try if you asked him to but he just wouldn’t like it at all
probably does stuff to make you break rules he’s set (which he would because he’s extra) on purpose so he has an excuse to be extra mean
honestly his face just doesn’t change. ever
but he’d definitely internally panic so much if you ever looked even in the vaguest bit uncomfortable
anyway. i firmly believe that he’s not into public teasing and if you pulled that on him he’d be genuinely mad
i don’t think the dynamic would go out of the bedroom intentionally? but i do think it’d slip out accidentally a few times
kinks;
choking (giving)
pain in general (giving)
doesn’t really like any type of power struggle
brat taming brat taming brat taming brat taming
vocal command king wow (giving)
slapping goodbye (giving)
bondage (giving)
he’s probably into like. most bdsm stuff lol
punishments;
alright they can go on for quite a while
you’d probably think you’d genuinely upset him
he wouldn’t talk very much, and when he did it would all be degradation
makes you second guess yourself?? like you’d do something and he’d just raise his eyebrows at you or tilt his head
deadass would ask you directly why you’d done whatever he was punishing you for
says whatever answer you give him isn’t good enough
definitely uses bondage/blindfolding/gagging together as a punishment like. bye
reminds you of all the different things you can do if you want him to stop before he goes straight into punishments
will deny your orgasms and then overstimulate you until you’re crying from both of them
doesn’t tell you to but expects you to apologise and thank him if he’s spanking you
wouldn’t even touch you until he felt like you deserved it lol
aftercare;
very necessary!!!
he goes over all the main points
always reminds you that he doesn’t mean the degrading
so much praise !
being called a good girl/boy by kyungsoo is the highest form of praise and he only does it during aftercare
feather-light kisses ! hundreds of them !
cooks for you, makes sure you drink at least a whole bottle of water
would talk really softly to you while you fall asleep just so you know he’s there for u :(
asks a million times if there’s anything you want/need him to do
jongin;
overall;
lmao i think he’d probably be a service sub bye
like. he isn’t a dom but if you wanted to be the sub then! suddenly he’s a certified dom
but i do think if it was just up to him he’d be the sub
he’s into whatever works out for you!!!
as a dom, i think he’d probably be really weak-willed u know
like. no punishments unless u wanted them, only indulges kinks u like etc.
but as a sub!! oh boy
i don’t think he’d be too much of a brat but he definitely could be one
i think it really just depends on his mood
because he kinda seems like he’d be a total baby boy too
anyways, he’d lowkey (not that he would ever admit it) like being teased in public
he’d love being degraded and praised at the same time? like it’d just make him blush so much?
dirty talk is his biggest weakness ! he’d be so easily flustered by it lmao
kinks;
lowkey is hand holding a kink
hair pulling (receiving)
oral (receiving) (i do however believe he’d be one of the best at giving in exo)
i think he’d be really into foreplay just in general? he’d really like finding different things to incorporate into it
restraints (receiving)
praise (giving and receiving)
body worship (giving)
degrading (receiving)
dirty talk (receiving)
punishments;
hm he’d get quite sensitive during punishments i think
like: every time you touched him if he’d have a blindfold on he’d jump
every time you did anything when he was handcuffed he’d tug at them
is completely willing to beg if that’s what you want from him
honestly full offence but punishing jongin would just be really hot
he’d be so reactive to everything you did it’d be impossible not to want to give him more
lives for having his orgasms denied because he really does try and prove just how far and how long he’s willing to hold out for you
he’d be so tensed up and he’d definitely be biting back his moans if you told him to and you would just be able to see his eyes glazing over with tears slightly
would actually be so appreciative when you finally end the punishment?? like you’d go to praise him and he’d already be stuttering out praise for you
aftercare;
wants all the hugs! all the kisses! all the praise!
will literally not be left alone for aftercare
you gotta be with him because he’d just kinda attach himself to you and then. not let go until you both went to sleep
gets a lil restless sometimes and would wanna watch something and just chill out for a lil bit before sleeping
but even then you gotta be touching
he’d get so soft if you made him eat and drink because !! he loves being showed affection afterwards
when you finally go to sleep he’d 100% want to be the little spoon you can’t change my mind
sehun;
(say nothing about the gif i would sell my soul for it)
overall;
a true switch
honestly switches so often it’s hard to actually keep up
switches every day, sometimes you’d be the dom and then half way through he’d be like “:/ funny that u think u can dom me”
sehun just. will not beg. ever. he’d complain all the time but like who is begging? he doesn’t know her
but, you’d still wanna get sehun to beg eventually
which is why you two had to have a safeword real early on lmao
as a sub, i think he’d be whiny and he’d complain and tease you
but would also be shocked when he gets punished? like what did he think was gonna happen? he doesn’t know but not this
as a dom, he would literally use any excuse to punish you like?
it’d get to the point where one of your rules had to be that whatever either of you did as doms couldn’t be used to give a reason for punishment (he highly dislikes this punishment)
he’s a brat whether he’s the dom or the sub
sometimes it wouldn’t even be about you switching it’d just be because he was annoying you loll
as a dom i think he’d be pretty sadistic and mean
but he’d also be rlly into being on the receiving end of that
teases you and then laughs when you get upset because it’s just a joke to him :,)
kinks;
i’m about to say it; he’d have a kink for receiving anything
oral (receiving)
dirty talk (giving)
degrading (giving and receiving)
worship (receiving)
pain (giving and receiving)
hair pulling (giving)
biting (giving and receiving)
choking (giving and receiving)
having his fingers in ur mouth lol
punishments;
oh boy
sehun whenever he’s a sub: knows he’s done something you directly told him not
you whenever you’re a dom: punishes him for it
sehun: :O
he’s such a brat you’d have to punish him almost all the time
he’d put up such a fight? like, if you restrained him he’d try and get out of them all the time??
like i said, he will not ever beg for anything
so you’d deny his orgasms and tell him to beg for it and he just wouldn’t
he would literally be verging on crying from how frustrated he was n all of his muscles and his jaw wld be tensed up and he would refuse to beg
eventually you’d have to give up or he’d have to safeword
actually dislikes being overstimulated just because he’d find it more uncomfortable than nice
wld let you occasionally as a punishment though
but! he loves overstimulating you as a punishment lmao
i honestly think he’d be pretty into making you cry rip because “i like to know i’m making you feel good :,)”
would spank you but not often because there’s nothing in it for him
aftercare;
i think it’d be important
but i also think you’d both have to do it for each other no matter who was the dom and who was the sub u know
like, you just gotta take a few quiet minutes together to re-collect yourselves from whatever role/s you were in that night
he’d wanna spend a little while just talking softly about how both of you are doing
definitely gets you both matching pyjamas to wear afterwards
isn’t afraid to wear a blanket like a cape n watch a cartoon w you if that’s what you wanted to do
but you’d have to get him snacks ready :)
would probably wanna be the little spoon after he’d been the sub and the big spoon after he’d been the dom
#i'm. real sorry for the lack of writing#anyway. here u go !#exo reactions#exo smut#exo scenarios#exo#writing#s; exo#m; all#g; smut
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Consider: Mina is a genuinely happy and positive person, but everyone has bad days (especially people who have been thru trauma, like seeing your loved ones regularly beaten to a bloody pulp). The thing is that Mina just. Refuses to show that trauma has actually been effecting her. She starts suppressing negative reactions to situations bc she wants to "stay strong." Beginning of the year? She cried when they got rescued from USJ. End of the year? "Lmao guess we survived another one! Ha! Ha! :)"
oh my god like millennial humor?? if yeah then lmao mina please
if not ahhh Mina baby you have feelings too that you gotta tend to!\
Alright- All (or at least all the angst headcanons I received) are answered below the cut! Please be careful, there are some, well angsty things in there!
TW: Eating Disorder, Gore/ Graphic Depictions, Homophobia, Depression, Suicidal Tendencies/ Self harm mention, Death, Possible spoilers to those not caught up with the BNHA manga- Please ask to tag if I missed any!
(looking at all these warnings made me realize omfg YALL DID NOT HOLD BACK IM CRYING ASK AND THOU SHALT RECEIVETH I SUPPOSE)
a-single-eyelash asked:
Denki accidentally hurt someone as a kid, say a sibling or good friend, with his quirk. It made him hate his work, until he saw a hero with a similar work to his. This is what made him think that not only is his quirk cool, but also that he can become a hero. Well until, he hurt Sero. His boyfriend, got electrocuted by him on the battlefield. (Sorry this is an idea I’ve had for a fic)
O H
BRUH THAT HIT ME LIKE A TRAIN COMING OUT FROM BEHIND THE BUSHES I THOUHGT THERE WAS GONNA BE A HAPPY ENDING THIS IS STILL GOOD THO
anonymous asked:
Bakugou is still sad, Sero is suicidal (Read to may fics about it man), Kami is legitimately afraid he’ll disappoint his parents, Tsu feels to normal, Kiri feeeeeelsss way to useless, and idk maybe Aoyama feels ignored. My own angsty headcanons.
Ah, yeah I can see how those can play into those characters!
anonymous asked:
Sero’s fight or flight response with a villains ice-like quirk (if your for that headcanon) OR Sero overwhelming his quirk trying to rescue a goddamn building of people
OH YA I AM FOR THAT
Also NO STOP HAVE I GOT SOMETHING IN STORE ABOUT COLLAPSING BUILIDINGS
anonymous asked:
Ashido + Bakugou bond over their quirks being destructive and not really knowing how to use them to actually *help* people
oh wow, I’ve never actually seen it that way.
But how about this: while they vent to each other about how their quirks can’t help people, the other is like, full on giving them descriptions of how their quirks actually CAN but they just never realized and they’re opening each other’s eyes while having their own insecurities knocked down
anonymous asked:
Omg your angst au is so angsty it’s beautiful
AH thank you haha!
anonymous asked:
Angsty headcannon boi- Sero was bullied in middle school for having wonky teeth and actually had braces. Which is why he has such a pearly white smile now. Sero was the last in his class to get his quirk and when he did he was laughed at because it was a ‘useless quirk’
n O ANON IM SOB
IM CRYING LEAVE HIM ALONE ILL SQUARE UP WITH THOSE BULLIES
anonymous asked:
Angst head cannon. Sero flinches whenever kirishima hardens. Sero’s parents are majorly homophobic and are actually quite strict. So whenever sero isn’t with bakusquad he tries to revise but it doesn’t work and he’s scared to ask for help.
Aw, man that’s heart wrenching to have parents so unsupportive- I feel it :( He’s just in a constant worry state whenever they’re around
anonymous asked:
If you’re still accepting the angst hcs… i think kaminari gets like really overcharged whenever there’s a storm and since they moved to the dorms there’s nowhere for him to release all the excess energy. So he just kinda hides away in his room in pain.
Aw, that’s terrible!
I dunno.. I feel like that one day when someone finds out during a storm, they’ll like, ask the teachers about “where someone could discharge a lot of energy askingforafriend” and they immediately know who they’re talking about and they’ll ask Powerloader and Mei and others in their department to build something for him to discharge all the excess AND be able to utilize it somehow :0 just a thought!
anonymous asked:
My headcannons: Sero is anorexic Bakugou has PTSD Kaminari has depression Kirishima had self-esteem issues Ashido is perfect (canon)
Oh that last part- she is, she is *clap**clap*
Though.. I will say that just because the others are haunted by those- it doesn’t make them less perfect. It’s their struggles that they learn to cope with and grow from, and it makes them, well, them. Not a definition of perfect can define that :’)
(sorry just speaking from my thoughts cause these hit close to home ahhh)
anonymous asked:
Lmao i sent a lot sorry if their not the best but hopefully some heart strings will be pulled
NONSENSE ANON ALL MY HEART STRINGS WERE PLUCKED BY ALL THESE AND NOW ITS YALLS TURN
transcandydemon asked:
Todocanon; todoroki has constant nightmares of the boiling water incident and of his father hurting him or his mom which causes him to not get as much sleep ie his calm attitude and how he’s not quick to get into conversations because of exhaustion
oh ya, such a traumatic past is def something that could still be haunting him in his dreams :’( but when the others notice, they’ll make sure to check up on him and try to find ways to help reduce nightmares or at least comfort him whenever they’re in his dreams
anonymous asked:
Deku head canon : deku is super jealous of kirishimas and bakugoa relationship since hes been trying to get close to kacchan for years and kirishima managed to do it within days
D’: He probably would feel that- jealousy’s very strong! But ah, in my personal opinion, i think he’d feel that, but after time learns that maybe it was best that he stopped dwelling on it and moves on, and learns to accept and be happy that he and Bakugou could at least be acquaintances that could eventually work well :’)
anonymous asked:
Denki headcanon: where he wants to be as close to bakugo as kirishima is and he tries so damn hard but takes bakugos insults to heart and he really does get torn up and upset about it(ex: the sports festival scene )
Oh wait which scene? Dunce face or?? :0 but yeah, I feel like he’d take it to heart at times. (but my bakukami heart tells me to say that when Baku realizes he gives him a good ass pep talk and beings hold back on his insults, or reassures Denki)
anonymous asked:
Bakugou could have PTSD and nightmares
Oh same headcanon! :’D Ah, but poor Bakugou. I’m sure the others would take it into mind and be aware of it and help him subtly so as to not provoke him, :’(
violetsare-tblue asked:
Bakugo: because of his inferiority complex, feels like he needs to prove himself over and over or he’ll be just the victim again Iida: his left arm is completely numb. He isn’t paralyzed and he can move it. He just can’t feel anything in his hand or arm. Makes holding hands with someone feel empty and useless Sero: he is so scared of being worthless as a hero and a person. He doesn’t want to be left behind by his classmates so he overworks himself and comes to school with random bruises
Oh mmhmm, I definitely see the Bakugou one! Especially after what he said during his fight with Deku, it def shows :(
Aw, Iida probably still looks back at his actions back in the Stain arc and regrets the errors of his ways. Luckily, I’m sure he’ll find someone who helps him through it and reminds him that mistakes don’t define him :’)
:’( Serooo MAKING ME CRY
casua-aria asked:
I have this Sero headcanon where he was the disposable (like how when tape dispensers run out and become disposable) friend in groups throughout his childhood, but now that he goes to UA, he has true caring friends that would never do that to him.
D: !!
That’s so sad- he must have thought his quirk was just life taunting him for being “disposable” hence the tape quirk :( but heck yeah, once he meets the students of UA he definitely begins to see that he wasn’t the problem in the past, but rather those that he was “friends” with!
anonymous asked:
Sero remembering very clearly all the pain that happened when his arm got cut off, maybe being a little scared of Kirishima for a few days after he first wakes up? Idk
OH YEAH THAT ONE HURTS
Like maybe.. once he’s able to respond again, he flinches and has an anxiety attack when he sees Kirishima because the sight of him just sends a flood of the memory to play in his head OOF
anonymous asked:
A personal favorite that nobody’s really thought of: a villain cuts off one finger from each of Ochako’s hands so she can’t use her quirk
OH MAN THATS BRUTAL OMG
That’s so dark!! I feel like a villain would do that should they get a hold of her and, mm maybe wanna rile up someone close to her to lure them in
meptoonzart asked:
Kirishima traitor
b R U H ID CRY MY EYES OUT IF HORI MADE HIM THE TRAITOR
Anonymous said:
I have a lot of angsty headcanons about Kaminari specifically so I’ll just spam you with those. He attracts electricity, so he often gets struck by lightning and has almost died from it twice. Kaminari knows people think he’s the traitor and it eats him up inside every day. He’s been ‘propositioned’ by quite a few creeps because he’s pretty and his quirk is, well, what it is. He has nightmares a lot and it causes power outages, he’s terrified his classmates will hate him for it.(1/?(Idk2maybe)
Sero got into a fight with someone after the sports festival, because how the hell did he make it into UA’S hero course, and Kaminari happens to be with him and he actively threatens the dude who started the fight with his quirk. No one bullies his friends. His overuse of his quirk is slowly killing him, he hasn’t told anyone that it’s destroying his brain. Bakugo reminds him of living in an abusive household but he doesn’t know how to say it so he laughs it off.(2/?(Okaymaybe4wearegettingthere)
Kirishima and Sero are the first to find out about both the frying brain and the abusive household, and Sero asks Kaminari if he wants to go try something. Kaminari says sure and Sero reserves a training ground for them, and Sero swings around with Kaminari and he hopes it works for Kami the same way it does for him. Sero is smiling because he doesn’t know what else to do, but swinging through the air helps him feel better and free. It helps. But there’s always, always the anxiety (¾)
the anxiety of ‘Maybe today is the day I fall’, but he doesn’t realize that Kaminari is helping him stay grounded. He won’t fall. Not when he gets to see Kaminari fuller of life than he’s ever been. They land on one of the buildings in ground Beta, and laugh like idiots as it starts to rain. Kaminari’s dying, Sero is a mess, and they just sit there for hours, past the end of their reservation, talking through their anxieties. Kaminari is scared to die. Sero is scared to lose him. (Okay1more4/5)
Sero promises Kaminari he’ll be there, he’ll do everything he can to help keep him alive as long as possible, and he asks Kaminari how long he has from his last estimate. Kaminari laughs, starting to cry. Six years. Sero tells the Bakusquad, and they promise him that they’ll be there when the time comes. Not villains or Dadzawa could stop them, and finally it does. For only being a hero for three years, he’s made history for kids who have terminal illnesses (ranoutofspacedammit)
And the drawbacks of quirks come more into light. Kaminari may not be a great student or hero, but he brought hope to a lot of people, and everyone will miss him. They can’t hear thunder crack without thinking of him, can’t see the golden sunrise without thinking of his smile. Can’t even bear to look at the classic lit section in a bookstore. He saved people and raised awareness, but he wrecked their hearts as well. (Somehow this turned into a near-fic I’m so sorry Hope you’re doing well(Done))
ANON OMG THANK YOU FOR THIS BASICALLY FIC IM CRYING THERES SO MUCH I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START CRYING
iamnootthedabmast-r said:
Heard you want some angsty headcannons- so Kaminari tends to stay up due to his quirk and he likes to stay in the dormitory lobby, so he just sits on the couch on his phone or just sits there in the dark- but this leads to him finding some secretive angsty stuff about other people in the dormitory for ex; Bakugou comes downstairs and just starts cooking cause he has terrible night terrors and Kaminari just quietly witnesses as Bakugou cries silently while he eats. (Part 1)
(Part 2) the next morning Kaminari kind of wants to try ask or comfort him but feels rude and awkward so he also kind of struggles with the knowledge of knowing that everyone in his class is a little to a lot of broken. So yeah, sorry if it’s a little confusing- in awkward when it comes to writing what I want to write…
DUUDE THIS IS SUCH A SAD CONCEPT IF YOU WRITE IT I WILL LEGITERALLY PERISH ON SPOT
Anonymous said:
May we… suggest directly… angsty oneshots? Please feel free to ignore this if you preferred hcs
(lmao sorry, im not caught up with the manga or anime to know what the first part is referrring to :’D) but ah yeah I’ve seen that headcanon, not too sure how to feel, but it’s out there!
#tw eating disorder#tw gore#tw graphic depictions#tw homophobia#tw depression#tw suicidal tendencies#tw self harm#tw death mention#bnha spoilers#long post#ask to tag#ahh i wont tag much else of bn/ha so it doesnt gloom up the tags!#all i want for christmas is queue
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Omgggg i didn’t know you liked hannibal!!! Which is your favorite episode?
JKSKSBFK oh anon i certainly do (if my hannibal tag has anything to say on that)
and WOW asking the tough questions anon i’m going to need to slump under a rock and contemplate that question for a hot hour lmao,, my guy i’m so in deep i have some season 1 scripts memorized and dream in jim hawkinson cinematography (YELLINGg)
so i guess i have to answer What Hannibal Episode is my Favorite Hannibal Episode? now……..
it’s a 60/40 split between the pilot 1x01 Aperitif and 3x04 Aperitivo, and i get so excited and emotional just recalling the episodes that i have to seriously compartmentalize this response anon
NO SPOILERS reasons why the pilot episode is my favorite episode:
(listing only the reasons the pilot is so strong and not the series as a whole)
-i’ve watched it over 30 times. that’s over 20hrs of my life collectively taken up by a single episode of broadcast television. help me please to elaborate, i’ve made dozens of friends, including several whole classes, give this show a shot. many of whom did make it to the end, what us fannibals would call a successful ‘hannivangelizing’. and because i’m an insufferably invested fan, i usually end up rewatching with them, hence the ludicrous amount of times i’ve watched this episode LMAO
-each time i appreciate something new– and that’s a crazy huge compliment, considering i get bored of shows VERY QUICKLY LOL
-it creatively and efficiently introduces the character of will graham. plainly- will is a stupendously complicated protagonist. his empathetic abilities are unusual in the crime genre- it’s not ‘hurr morally ambiguous detective can think like the killer because he’s dark and morally ambiguous hurr’, it’s ‘deeply troubled man wants to lead a moral life but is unable to control how deeply he can FEEL like the killer’.
the fact that this is never verbally explained at length is what’s amazing. ‘show, don’t tell’-the golden rule of all dramatic production is masterfully followed in the first scene, wherein will graham reenacts a murder, deduces evidence that keys into a previously undiscovered aspect of the crime, and then cut back to him in his classroom- BRILLIANT. all that, when they could have easily put some expositional words into jack crawford’s mouth and been done with it
expanding on will graham, the writers also take care so audiences know that the protagonist is, fundamentally, a man who wants to do good. no matter how fun exploring the possibility of dark!will is, it would ultimately be untrue (and less interesting) to say that will graham is an immoral character. they do this in the most lovely way, by bringing in The Dogs (💖😭). the scene where a stressed and exhausted will graham coaxes a stray dog into his warm family of other strays comes right off the heels of a brutal, violent depiction of a teenage girl being strangled in her own bed. it’s much needed brevity, and most importantly it compels us as viewers to care about our protagonist.
-it withholds the introduction of hannibal lecter. the show is called ‘Hannibal’ for bryan fuller’s sake- but the iconic, eponymous character is literally not even mentioned, let alone seen, until halfway into the premiere episode. lesser writers would have rushed headlong into getting as much lecter screentime as possible- after all this show was pitched on the basis of his pop culture notoriety, right? but no, the pilot patiently dedicates the first half of itself to endearing the lesser-known will graham to us, making lecter’s reveal all the more satisfying.
-the split second reaction expressions of hannibal and will’s first meeting, which in retrospect totally sell mads’ ‘love at first sight’ comment. again, smartly, the writers let the two throw quips at each other and put down that they are… strangely, on the same wavelength? and then immediately thwart that benevolence with hannibal’s gibberish probing.
-the hilarious editing of when the body is discovered in the field. how it intercuts between hannibal’s cooking and will’s mind building a clearer, more sympathetic profile of garett jacob hobbs by way of process of elimination. also on will’s mind- the ridiculously satisfying rehashing of ‘show don’t tell’ to illustrate the ticking of will’s mind. instead of him verbalizing the pieces coming together while staring blankly over elise nichol’s body, the camera closes into darkness and the suspended ragdoll of her body is sharply pierced by antlers. then he gets it- oh. “she was mounted on them, like hooks.” in a shaking, haunted voice. YES.
-the lovely, lovely rim lighting of their first meal together. the enigmatic line ‘the mongoose i want under the house, when the snakes slither by’ which younger me mistakenly interpreted as hannibal wishing for will’s safety, before realizing that mongooses are actually renowned snake-killers, and that hannibal has so early on recognized will’s potential as a weapon of righteousness. plus, hannibal making will genuinely crack up, and bryan fuller deciding to build an entire running visual metaphor on an otherwise throwaway line about teacups.
-and finally, the ending scene. the climactic moment. the archangel michael slaying satan. there’s so much right about this scene, and actually the wonderful @bonearenaofmyskull already has a much better punctuated analysis of it than this mess of my thoughts 😂 do check it out, it’s just brilliant.
i have a lot more to say but most of it is incoherent so that’s all fOLks,
i could definitely also produce a rambling shamble of a post about my intense feelings towards 3x04 and how much i adore season 3 as a whole, only if you guys want more of this grammatical travesty LMAO anyway, thanks for popping by anon!!! more hannibal asks would be great please i am PARCHED
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