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i need a lockwood and co logo or symbol or something
#mainly to doodle#or paint#or some other way keep forever#im willing to regress to middle school#where i wrote all my fandom stuff everywhere#just give me something#i drew a very bad rapier on my leg at work today#and a memory version of lockwoods ring#because i got bored and didnt have a logo to draw#lockwood and co#netflix lockwood and co#lockwood & co#l&co#logo#symbol#fandom
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Guys... guys lets go back in time. Guys guys guys please.e..
I can't wait 'till I can get all the other RE games that I haven't played, get hyperfixiated on the whole franchise and literally never stop talking about dumb small details that I saw in a game and talk about that small detail a lot also go on a rampage of finding all the info I can of certain character.
#ada is not my girlboss... she is my nightmares now LMFAO#mostly fault of the fandom. but the actual story also romanticizes her relationship w leon. like. too much.#and people eat it up. wo a second thought because actually They Dont care about leon or actually know Ada.#tbh none Of Us know Ada or what she wants needs or anything she is literally a Nothing Burger that keeps telling you shes actually got#millions of stuff that can be... Maybe very Tasty 😏😏😏#i swear. i swear I looked everywhere for even a sliver of things interesting about her that is outside of Leon and the only cool thing is..#she is very good at fighting and she uh has weird fucky morals which have no rhyme or reason buuut shes...helping...people i guess#even tho that she keeps...propagating the bioterrorism... haha...hahah... yeah but she cares about people Sooooo much#like they dont even say if shes in it for the money. the fun the What.#And Look. she does have a Couple interesting lines here and there that allude to something...but they go Nowhere. they dont get adress at#all and in fact they kind off get shadowed by... her actions in such a way that nullifies them.#I wanna live in a world where they DIDNT reboot her in RE4.... i love that game but if only the motherfucker who wrote it wasnt a sexist#prick who didnt know how to write women in an interesting light. then uh. we wouldnt be having this convo IN FACT i would be probably#obsessed with Ada!!#And btw I am Not talking about remake Ada she Actually doesnt sell Las Plagas somewhere...it looks like.#It looks like she actually doesnt want to propagate something that will be horrifically hurtful to people#....turns to the camera to when she very much sold G virus in RE2.... But hey hey guyuyss shes changing shes going thru her arc#i mean she STILL doesnt respect Leon just like ORE Ada never ever respects him in any way shape or form.#but I trust this Ada after all this Ada is a survivor.#She alr was in RE2 and RE3 but Capcom rebooted that n gave us the middle finger.#anyways. saying all of this. I dont like canon Ada however her pre-reboot self has given me a lot of food to genuinely build a character I#somewhat enjoy in my head#...oh yeah and chris is okay hes enjoyable and a silly goose stop thinking w your muscles n start thinking w yor head bby
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Sending this to you specifically because I feel like you're the only normal brained person about this series.
I read Captive Prince a couple of years ago and liked it fine, as someone who doesn't have a strong preference for or against m/m and therefore isn't well-versed enough in its clichés to notice whether it reads like something full of cliché fanfic tropes. I really liked the use of language, some of the historical/political stuff, some of the ways that the characters are made complicated or unreliable.
The problem is, I've since coincidentally read most of the books that were Pacat's inspiration and. Well. Like 80-90% of the stuff in there has direct parallels in one of those. I'm not sure if there are more than three original thoughts in there.
I am not joking, if you read 1. The Lymond Chronicles and House of Niccolò by Dorothy Dunnett; 2. The Nightrunner series by Lynn Flewelling and 3. The Vampire Chronicles by Anne Rice, you will find that some of the scenes were ripped off beat for beat, many jokes were taken and just lazily reworded, a lot of the character beats and arcs are at best a mashup of 2 or maximum 3 things from those books with the serial numbers filed off really poorly. There's a scene where some characters discover a suicide victim whose structure and descriptions are completely ripped off from another series, except Pacat fails to see what made the original scene so impactful. A lot of the pretty use of language is also directly copied from those, including some really really specific descriptors. It's so blatant!
And I don't see how people are okay with this! I know people who are fans of several of these works and they're totally cool with it! And honestly if it were some rando's unpublished original project I'd be cool with it too, but as a published beloved worldwide phenomenon with rabid fans? C'mon.
And another thing is, all of the other series mentioned above are balls to the wall insane. She just... she just made it bland. She took off most of the edge and reshuffled the elements into a fairly straightforward MLM love story with some light kink thrown in. It's not a BAD series, but I feel like I'm disappointed that someone read all my favourite books and THAT was their takeaway?
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I started reading, got to the name of the series and burst out laughing.
And, wow, you brought up something totally new that I hadn't thought about! I'm impressed. Genuinely. Usually, I rant about all the reasons I hate the series while debunking the standard anti talking points.
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I've read the Vampire Chronicles, but that was in the 90s and I read Captive Prince in like 2016 or after. I had zero recollection of common points. I haven't read The Lymond Chronicles despite years of hurt/comfort fans bugging me to do so, and I think I got like a chapter into the Nightrunner series before getting distracted...
The reason I found Captive Prince annoying and derivative is that it also reads exactly like the original m/m that was available when it was first being written, most notably the work of P.L. Nunn who was extremely famous for horny fan art but who also wrote some original m/m fantasy novels. The scene where they finally bone reminds me heavily of the one from... uh... what's the P.L. Nunn one where the prince creeps on that archer dude and he gets raped because of course and then the prince has to be ~patient~ and it's peak boring 2000s rape recovery tropes?
The rape backstory is not only lifted from Fushigi Yuugi (the author's fandom at the time) but is shared with basically 100% of original m/m from that era. It's sometimes the uncle, sometimes the stepfather. One single time that I can think of, it was the foster brother, but mostly it's that "funny uncle" type. Unless it's gang rape from a bad Gundam Wing fic. That was also everywhere.
Once somebody told me the author had previously shipped Tamahome/Nakago, I realized that they'd taken what would be a kind of unusual anime ship and made it a thousand times more boring by dumbing down the scary, tall general with the tragic backstory into an uke-appropriate waif.
So I guess what I'm saying is that there may be some inspiration you aren't familiar with, but it's the same story as what you said above: this is the blander remix.
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As for why people are okay with this... honestly, most of the people who really adore the series whom I've talked to point to how it encapsulates the exact tropes and tone they loved in anime fic circa 2000.
As a fellow weeb, I loathed the tone of said anime fic circa 2000 and could not wait for tastes to change, so Captive Prince is a hideous blast from an unlamented past for me.
I think most people who love the series aren't familiar with its inspirations. Those that are may have consumed them quite a while ago and don't realize quite how direct the parallels are. Or, for the inspirations that aren't overtly canon m/m, the lure of it being Exactly Right may overshadow other things.
(They also mostly haven't read 90s fantasy doorstops that actually contain political intrigue, tactics and strategy. Captive Prince is a piss poor entry into this genre and should be recced for m/m, not this other stuff people constantly think is in there. None of these characters can reason their way out of a paper bag.)
More than any of that, there's a lot of love left over from when the series was a serialized original story on Livejournal in an era when we had vanishingly few original m/m works, especially long ones in a fantasy alternate world.
I think that is what gets it a pass when a new m/m novel presented as "m/m romance" or posted on one of the webnovel sites would be mocked for unoriginality. Many Captive Prince fans aren't (or weren't when they read it) all that familiar with the smorgasbord of original m/m available today. Many are unfamiliar with anime fanfic circa 2000, so this feels adjacent to the fic they've read but a little fresher... instead of like the week-old sardine tin I found it to be.
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I went completely bananas and wrote a full analysis of Joker Out and JO fandom stuff and situation... idk
Hi baby boos!
I’ve seen some confusion regarding JO’s latest announcements and social media activity (or lack thereof) so I've tried to analyze the current situation with a critical eye 🤓
I don't use Tumblr much so you're probably more familiar with my Twitter but I got suggested to post this here for easier reading (and... better audience in general 👀)
Long rant under the cut:
Before I begin I must point out that these are my opinions and theories. I have no idea how JO’s communication and management is being organized right now, I’m just making assumptions based on my perception as a fan 🤷♀️
(also I’m a communication graduate but my studies and current job cover this sector only tangentially so I may not know how some/most of this works…)
Let’s start with comparing last year’s situation to the current one: one year ago the boys were riding high on the wave of enthusiasm, having had a successful ESC (despite the ending placement) and having gained a lot of attention as fan favorite competitors ✨
A very high % of the growing fanbase, esp the international one, was coming directly or tangentially through ESC and how do you maintain that attention once the contest is over? you increase your social media presence and you start planning international concerts. which they did!
This constant exposure to content made the fandom flourish: we were all witnessing how easily people from everywhere could join and already feel at the very center of attention, both because JO’s communication was being very active and successful and also thanks to fanmade organizations like JokerOutSubs, group chats, old time Slovenian fans sharing juicy pre-ESC content, etc. I'll be grateful forever
We had a past year that could be divided into 2 halves in terms of communication: it all went extremely well until more or less the end of 2023 (last tour dates in Spain) and then started gradually becoming very odd and chaotic all through 2024 until last month’s complete draught
We know that they mostly tend to manage their online presence on their own, so ofc during breaks and during very busy times is harder for them to find good content to share. They had also been very clear about needing time off their phones all through the London era and the album recording in Hamburg, so that didn’t come as a surprise for fans 🤷♀️
But having very sensible, personal reasons to quit/decrease social media presence has unfortunately no meaning in communication, where the laws are very simple: once you stop sharing, you stop existing
I don’t want to criticize their choices, because they are entitled to their privacy and offline time. I’m just pointing out that this very long, hiccup-y period probably could have been avoided with better management and with the presence of a smm/pre-planned sm communication 🙃
It also unfortunately happened concurrently to the new ESC season, which was bound to “organically” erode part of the fandom anyway, and to an EU tour that, although successful, has still highlighted a lazy/bad management and yet again a communication that made little to no sense at times (es. the whole campaign that subtly asked people to go to more than one concert, which clearly made fans with less financial and logistical possibilities feel ‘lacking’ and ‘inferior’) 🙄
In their defense, the tour was to establish a fanbase more than gaining more fans and exposure, so pushing for getting more of a loyal than an occasional fanbase wasn’t completely wrong an idea… it just backfired
And it did because the greatest part of their international fanbase is made of very young people who aren’t financially independent and whose interests are bound to be fleeting and shifting ESPECIALLY when they aren’t constantly met with content production/consumption
Let’s also not forget that having completely shifted their attention to international waters at the expense of the Slovenian/regional fanbase has been very risky. We still can’t tell if the gamble was successful or not
It’s never a good idea to ignore/neglect your hardcore supporters, the very people that helped you raise to your current standards. it’s true they are the most loyal, but they are also very easily the ones that could feel more betrayed
I also think it’s very risky trying to shift the fans’ content consumption out of social media and into a (controlled, easier to manage, ofc) site like Openstage for two main reasons: as said before, complete disappearance from socials means communicational suicide and until now, the “dedicated content” directed toward fans on the site has been… too bland and generic (sorry)(they can learn how to improve that)
Openstage has other very interesting uses tho, firstly the early access to ticket sales and secondly the tracking of international fan presence, which was pretty clearly the main goal and reason why they opened the site in the first place... so it’s not ex ante a bad communication choice, just (until now) one that has yet to show its potential and usefulness
So what now? I think it’s time they make a few considerations and sensible choices to maintain what’s currently the status quo and in order to tackle festival season in the best way
They need to keep their international presence by opening their fanbase to a new kind of fans: festivals bring exposure to bands from a very specific type of fanbase, more interested in music than in contents. If they manage to capture the interest of Sziget people, for example, they could gather a new type of international fanbase less interested in the “social media” content consumption and more in the “I wanna see these guys play again, somewhere else, maybe a show of their own” way
(which, to be completely fair, could be the best choice to cure their current crazy/shifting/confusing fanbase state, giving them more peace of mind, more privacy and a more “normal” rock band experience than the one they had in the past year… that we can all agree has been pretty bad at times)
I personally think this summer season must go in the quantity direction (gaining more new fans) and at the same time in the quality direction (less shows, bigger stages) and this is why some of you are disappointed in seeing so little shows compared to last year or to the SYS tour... I get it
Many of us, me included, won’t be seeing JO live for the whole summer season, and I’m aware that is disappointing, but I hope this analysis has helped you put things into perspective and consider maybe one of the possible reasons why this next phase for Joker Out is being organized this way
I’m still hoping they’ll find a good compromise with their social media communication, because right now I really feel that being the main issue with the gradual but constant drop in traction (please boys hire a smm. i adore jan’s sad edits and the unhinged video and stories like the next person but serious work has to be done too)
Ending the rant on a note of hope: I wish to see you all enjoy the summer and the content to come and I hope for the boys to have a successful, fun season full of new experiences, new music, new people, fresh ideas for the future. I’m honestly very excited for what’s to come! 🌻
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Dreams: A Bad Romance One-Shot
Series: Bad Romance Continues
Original Series: Bad Romance
Fandom: The Royal Romance/The Royal Heir
Pairings for series: Riley x Liam x Max, Riley x Drake, Riley x Rashad
Pairing for this chapter: Riley x Max
Rating: Fluffy
Warnings for this chapter: fluffiness
Word Count: 930
A/N: Well, I know that I have about a million asks in my inbox that have been waiting forever, but @twinkleallnight sent me this image and I had an idea, so I wrote it. It skipped the line. I initially thought Riley x Drake when I saw it, but no, that's not what happened once my brain started spinning.
My other stuff: Master List.
Max backed out of the walk-in freezer at Ramsford with several containers of ice cream. He lined them up on the counter so Riley could see what he’d found. “Look! There’s chocolate chip cookie dough!”
“Yum!” Riley sat two bowls on the counter in front of the hot fudge and maraschino cherries she had pilfered from the refrigerator. “What about sprinkles?”
“Uhh…pantry! Be right back!” Max darted into the pantry as Riley started digging around in the drawers for an ice cream scooper.
“Hey, Max. What’s this?”
“What’s what?” he asked as he returned with four containers of different types of sprinkles.
Riley stood from where she’d been bent over rummaging through some bottom drawers and held up a small, ceramic figurine of a bride and groom.
Max’s eyes went wide for a moment as he stammered, “Oh that…that’s nothing.” He practically sprinted across the room to swipe it out of her hands.
She deftly moved her hand out of his reach, thwarting his attempt to take it from her. “This doesn’t look like something Sav and Bert would have had on their cake.”
A rosy flush spread across his cheeks as Max admitted, “It’s mine. I bought it.”
Riley looked at him in surprise. “When?”
“During Liam’s social season. Not long after you got here. When you and I were first together. You know, before you dumped me.”
“Ah, Maxey…” Riley moved closer to him and ran a hand through his hair. “Is this supposed to be me and you?”
The flush deepened. “Yeah. I know it’s silly.”
“It’s not.” She assured him. “I think it’s sweet. But we weren’t together that long the first time. Did you really want to marry me?”
He reached for the figurine again, and this time she let him take it. He stared down at it for a moment, then returned his gaze to her face. “It was long enough for me to know what I wanted.”
“Wait.” A sudden thought startled her. “Do you regret that you and I didn’t get a wedding?”
“What? No!” He shook his head vehemently. “I’m beyond happy at the way things worked out. I ended up with you and Liam!”
“I know. But did you want a ceremony?”
He shrugged. “We had the collaring ceremony. That was enough for me.”
“Hmmm.” Riley regarded him as she tapped a finger on her lips.
“What?”
A slow smile spread across her face. “I have an idea!”
Two days later, Riley stood in the middle of the east lawn at Ramsford, peacocks running everywhere, beaming at Max as he danced down the aisle.
Bertrand leaned over and whispered to Savannah, “Why are we encouraging this again?”
“Hush!” She playfully slapped his shoulder. “We’re supporting them!”
“This isn’t legal. She’s already married.”
Savannah cast a glance at the altar where Liam also waited. “Max didn’t tell you? He’s marrying them both.”
Bertrand shook his head. He did not understand their relationship at all. “But…. why? It’s a farce!”
“It makes them happy. Isn’t that enough?”
“Since when did you become a Riley fan? I remember when you hated her!”
“Things change,” Savannah said serenely as she watched her brother shooing peacocks away from the officiant, which happened to be Lady Hana Lee. She’d gotten ordained online as a pagan priestess. There were no other guests.
Savannah and Bertrand had bonded over Bartie’s illness and their marriage was finally on the proper track. The new life growing inside her was proof of that. Still. She wasn’t sure she could trust him with the knowledge that Riley had been instrumental in bringing her sister’s killer to his end. But she had. And knowing that had changed her feelings toward the American.
That didn’t mean that she didn’t still have the occasional pang of jealousy over Max’s utter devotion to the woman. But since she was trying to make her marriage with his brother work, she was learning to let it go.
Besides, she wasn’t about to give up being a duchess.
Riley was dressed in a simple white sheath dress, her feet bare, wildflowers woven in her hair.
Other than the flock of peacocks, which Max had told her was also called an ostentation, there was nothing elaborate or extravagant about the ceremony. It was a simple, pagan handfasting ceremony. Unofficial and not legally binding, but symbolic and deeply meaningful to the throuple.
After the ceremony was over, he scooped her into his arms and posed for a photo as Riley leaned up and kissed him on the cheek. Just like the figurine that was now perched atop a towering peacock themed cake.
The three of them took turns feeding each other the sweet confection, Liam’s fingers lingering in Max’s mouth as he leaned over and whispered, “When we’re done here, I’m carrying you over the threshold.”
Butterflies exploded through Max’s chest at the implication. “Best day ever!” He murmured as he turned and pulled the figurine from the top of the cake, wrapping it carefully and setting it to the side to ensure it didn’t get damaged.
The delicate statuette that he had once stashed away in a bottom drawer in the kitchen when looking at it taunted him with what could have been had, in the end, brought him the ending he had dreamed of when he’d purchased it.
He had just married both the loves of his life. When he had dreamed of a wedding with Riley, he’d had no inkling what Liam would become to him.
He had gotten everything he ever wanted. That, and so much more.
#the royal romance#trr#trr au#angelasscribbles#the royal romance fanfic#maxwell beaumont#trr poly#choices fic writers creations#cfwc fics of the week#choices
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the Thing about Mid-2010s Ace Discourse that gets me is that even if you weren't really someone who kept their pulse on the latest news in the lgbt+ community or queer theory or whatever, it'd still make its way onto your dash in a more subtle way as "cringe"
like i think a lot of funny posts at the time being made by the Big Guys were like "34yo 'fandom moms' about to doxx a preteen for not shipping rey-lo" followed by an image of peter griffin photoshopped to have dyed hair, piercings, heavy makeup, and a shirt in the ace flag colors using a laptop with fandom stickers on it. like very much a "gay people i do not respect" strawman but with the label scribbled out and a new one slapped on. and no one really read into it critically
and if someone did actually go "hey what does asexuality have to do with it" they were put on blast by op and their friends for "reading too much into it" and the post would immediately devolve into bullying whoever decided to speak out -- often someone very young and/or with trouble picking up on social cues -- until they wrote up a long emotional thesis trying to stand their ground where inevitably they said something wrong and op got to say something like "ummmm 😳 did you just say lesbianism is aphobic??? 😂" and everyone would reblog the whole miles-long thread going "LMAOOO CRINGE" with the subtle insinuation that All Ace People Are Like This.
like i never saw anyone share around straight up Discourse™ discourse on my dash specifically, even if i knew it was out there/saw it in the wild outside my personal bubble sometimes, but this kinda stuff was Everywhere thanks to the rise of "cringe culture", and i think that was more fundamentally damaging than any 10k word google doc essay with sources trying to make an "intelligent point" for ace exclusion
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Tumblr fans are by far the least problematic. We just post our stuff on here, even telling people not to share it somewhere else. Then twt and tt fans come along and share it everywhere, making it more accessible and them deem us problematic. At the same time they are tagging Joost everywhere, straight up stalk him, release personal information/photos and bodyshame him. All on platforms where he is 100% active and sees the stuff. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
absolutely agree with everything you wrote 🫶
also this just in from insta oh my god he really did it he fuckin got fed up with those shitty random insta stories he had been tagged in for months
just the fact he had to draw boundaries speaks volumes. and I am so glad he did but at the same time I sincerely hope he is doing okay. he got a taste of his own fandom on insta (which is most of the time batshit crazy ngl, respect to all the normal fanpages out there) and it must be super fuckin weird for him 😭
and they are still gonna hate on us here on Tumblr? for what, making gifs? lmao we are fuckin GOLD compared to insta/tt/joostwt.
girl bye
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Why am I not writing anymore?
I've been kicking this one around inside my head and have decided to share here. See if it helps me get it out of the incoherent jumble in my head and into some orderly thoughts.
Burnout?
This was why I stopped writing. I should have stopped writing at the pace I was probably about a year earlier, but I really wanted to hit a million words on AO3. I did! I'm glad I hit the goal, but oof, I felt it. But I don't think that's what's happening right now. I've had time to recover, work got a lot less stressful when I changed jobs, I'm happier. I'm not exhausted when I think about writing anymore. But I'm not doing it.
Well, wait, AM I not doing it?
I do have a couple people I chat with about fandom things. It's not writing for an audience, but it is creative. That's where I figured the energy was going. But interestingly, I started doing word count on my therapy notes, out of curiosity. Yeah, I'm writing at least 2k a week at work. It's not creative writing (but it is narrative writing) and its THE EXACT OPPOSITE of for a public audience, but it is burning similar energy in terms of sit down at computer and type time.
But is that really a bad thing?
Maybe not! I think the time at the desk is bad, but I don't have to write at my desk. Laptops enable gremlin writing everywhere. And maybe it's easier to write when I'm already in the habit of writing.
Really?
Maybe? I'm not pivoting from notes to fun writing, so the momentum isn't quite there. But I gotta admit, word counting the therapy notes did wake something up inside me.
Word counting? Seriously? What about The Story That Needs To Be Told? Creativity?? Having something to say?
Wow, inner voice, you got judgy real fast there. I think...I think you're part of the problem. Aside from like, three fics out of that million words I wrote, I never started knowing the complete story. I have a rough idea of what I want to say, or a dynamic I want to explore, and then I find the rest as I go. So if I'm waiting for The Story That Needs to be Told, I'm probably not gonna write again. I think I need to fall back in love with the process.
You wrote a million words in four years. What was the process that worked then, and why isn't it working now?
Well, part of it was the wordcount. Not making words for words sake, but having a solid metric to point to in terms of progress. I have ADHD, and the fact is if I want to do something, I need to make it fun and measurable. Tracking wordcount is both. But it wasn't just wordcount. It was also talking with people about things, gift giving, writing hangout time, and other people's excitement motivating me. I don't have that consistently right now. I have people that have made it clear they'll cheer me on (♥️), but I don't have it as a habit, as a part of my regular day to day life.
Why not?
Well, I stopped writing. That's kinda a big one. But also...writing took up a lot of time. I stopped watching new media, basically. I wrote the most while I was in a reading slump. I'm not comfortable with this idea, but I think I need to wrestle with the idea that I focus on one thing at a time. I don't know if I can watch all the Dimension 20 seasons and write like I did. I don't know if I can have a good reading life and a good writing life. That makes me sad. I don't want it to be true.
But is it? Sometimes sad things are true.
Too right, inner voice. And I don't know! I think I can safely say that without intentionality, I will tend to do 1-2 leisure activities at a time. But I now that I'm thinking about it, I suspect the trouble is in task switching, not the task itself. If I make a goal to task switch, maybe I'll be more able to.
And set more reasonable goals. You probably can't write 250k words a year and do other stuff.
Yeah, probably not. Maybe I should set a wordcount maximum, to make sure I do other stuff too.
But do you *want* to write? Do you miss it?
...yes?
Oh man I hoped I'd be more confident in answering that. Do I want to write, or do I miss being A Person That Writes?
Well, we already established you are actually writing a lot right now. So maybe let's phrase it as: Do you want to tell stories to a wider audience?
...Yeah. Yeah I do! I miss that! I miss being a storyteller.
So either you find some other way to tell stories...
Like framing my self-analysis as a conversation?
Maybe this whole method should have tipped you off sooner, yeah.
Good point. On both counts. Either I start a podcast or a twitch stream or something, or I go back to the way I'm most comfortable telling stories.
Writing.
Yep.
So what are you going to write about?
I don't know, inner voice! But waiting on that to be clear hasn't worked. Think I just need to start somewhere. But it's good to know I want to start.
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Boyfriends
A self aware take on Boyfriends, including Harry and boyfriends of those he cares for. The lyric video features a lone swan, a symbol of commitment. Harry was with a swan in every image for his May 20 2019 Gucci Campaign, released the week Boyfriends was first written. Harry and Taylor were pictured with a Swan on her birthday when they went to The Lakes. Harry who has spoken about the song with pride and deference. Let's start with the gorgeous first take:
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Harry said to Zane Lowe it was written at the end of Fine Line:
"There was an extra week where we wrote some stuff, wrote Adore you, TPWK and we were recording Lights Up. [...] At the end of that session everyone left and I started writing Boyfriends and it almost felt like OK there is a version where we get this ready to put on this album, and I think there was something about it where it felt like it's going to have it's time. [...] I am learning so much by saying it [...] It is both acknowledging my own behaviour, looking at behaviour I have witnessed and looking at I grew up with a sister, so it's like watching her date people and watching friends date people and you know people don't treat each other nicely sometimes. And it turned out about boyfriends because I started paying it and saying boyfriends. [...]Just say what you think of boyfriends.
Harry was in the studio from 15 May 2019, the Swan Gucci Campaign was released on he and Taylors anniversary that week. It was also 2 weeks after Me! Was released. When speaking about Boyfriends Harry constantly mentions these other songs. They have a common theme about the impact of the behaviour of others on his relationships and self, true his nature it is subtle and gentle:
Adore you's video asks fans to respect the partner(s) of his choosing, in contrast to fan reaction who he dates.
TPWK, as the title says, Harry told Rolling Stone " It made me uncomfortable at first, [...] I feel like that song opened something that’s been in my core.”
Lights Up - to Rolling Stone Harry spoke about stepping out from 1D on his own, the lyrics of "I'm not ever going back" and "All the lights couldn't put out the dark running through my heart", link the experience of the band and fandom to mental health and knowing who he is, rather than who others want him to be.
To me, coming at the end of that session adds to Harry taking ownership his role in failed relationships in that time by being unaware of the impact his 1D persona. fan treatment of his partner(s) and emotional unavailability. Taylor has also described her anxiety dating him in Slut! and Gold Rush. However, as Harry said, it is not limited to himself. On its release at Coachella, (3 years after it was written) "To Boyfriends Everywhere, F*** you". This was weeks after Taylor wrote You're Losing Me about Joe. His face to the end of this is everything:
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Setlist and Tracklisting
Harry placed Boyfriends on HH between Satellite and LOML. Harry stopped playing Boyfriends after November 15 2022, when he played it live with Ben Harper at the end of the L.A. Forum residency. It was only played once in 2023, at Wembley June 16. The next night was the only time he played Sweet Creature since 2018. When it was on the setlist it proceeded LOML or Lights Up.
Ben Harper
To Variety Ben Harper said: "It was a wonderful recording session — one of the most memorable and most musical I’ve ever been a part of. [...] Harry invited me to stick around because he wanted to finish the song right then and there. To get to watch Harry in his process was eye-opening, and I learned a lot. [...] Yeah, I mean, he orchestrated the vocal harmonies like a classical composer, spot on, note for note. He just stacked them perfectly in pitch, one better than the next, and it was really eye-opening to see somebody step on the mic and have the parts orchestrated in his head. I’ve never seen anything like it actually."
Lyrics
Hoo Niaga ti ta kcab er'uoy, loof Boyfriends They think you're so easy They take you for granted They don't know they're just misunderstanding you You, you're back at it again
The opening is Backwards 'Ooh Fool, you’re back at it again'. Sunflower Vol 6 also opens with 'Sunflower' backwards. I think of this as about a backwards life, success followed by a normal life.
The first verse describes how boyfriends take their partner for granted and misunderstand.
Weakened When you get deep in He starts secretly drinking It gets hard to know what he's thinking You love a fool who knows just how to get under your skin You, you, you still open the door
The second verse describes where partner has met their guard down some boyfriends withdraw, and start drinking. Harry has sung of this before in Half the world away “I’ve started drinking”. Harry has mentioned drinking in other songs, but HTWA has a similar meaning, of drinking in secret to cope.
Harry touches on common themes in his discography:
Not communicating, similar to MMIH “we don’t talk about it”
Not getting over this person - Getting under you skin is a reference to Taylor’s The Lakes: “What should be over burrowed under my skin in heart-stopping waves of hurt” and IWYW “You always knew how to push my buttons”
Doors - here Harry's muse is opening the door, Harry has 7 songs that refer to knocking, opening or not opening doors. Taylor also has 13 songs about Harry and doors.
You're no closer to him Now you're halfway home Only calling you when Don't wanna be alone Oh, and you go Why? You don't know
While the first 2 verses the Boyfriend was uncommunicative, emotionally unavailable and didn't consider their partner. In the third verse the boyfriend and partner are learning from failed relationships, but still no closer. Now the boyfriend is only calling when they want company, rather than to be there for their partner.
Halfway home: The X Account 'I am Halfway Home' was started to promote HH. The term could have several meanings:
a Halfway house is a place to reintegrate into society from an institution.
The song is a play on words of having no more emotional closeness despite being physically halfway home, and
Halfway home is the name of a documentary about the toll war takes on veterans and their families.
Home is an important theme to Harry's work, Home meaning being with the right person rather than a physical place. To me, this lyric is Harry is saying that despite his growth since leaving the band and break down of this relationship they are still not emotionally closer.
Boyfriends Are they just pretending? They don't tell you where it's heading And you know the game's never ending You, you lay with him as you stay in the daydream You feel a fool You're back at it again
The closing of the song is a sense that the boyfriend is being a player, not communicating.
But Harry's muse gives in, wanting to stay in a dream. Slut! has a similar idea of choosing to stay in a love haze when you know it's not going to last "Got lovestruck, went straight to my head / Got lovesick, all over my bed / Love to think you'll never forget / Handprints in wet cement". Harry also says this in Daydreaming: "Livin' in a daydream"
Harry and Taylor have both used 'fool' in reference to their relationship before (in Fools Gold, Cardigan, Illicit Affairs, Joker and the Queen and in Long Pond Taylor said it 7 times about James in Betty.)
Finally, it refers to the cyclical nature of their relationship with 'back at it again' as OOTW 'built to fall apart and back together' and Style "when we go crashing down we come back every time' and many other songs.
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For the fandom positivity thread:
The friends and the sheer amount of talent!!
I'm very very new to fandom and RWRB is my first. Getting to make ACTUAL friends that I talk to every day is so unbelievably cool and special to me. A few months ago, I had been talking to a non-fandom friend about how difficult it is is to make friends now as an adult because I'm not in an institutionalised space (school, uni, office) anymore. So I have to find friends in the wild. Then I fell into fandom and immediately found so much love and kindness. And all I really needed to do was hyperfixate and be myself.
And the reason I fell into fandom was because it's filled with incredibly talented humans and so many universes for my favourite characters. The possibilities are endless! And through the fic I read, art/ gifsets I see I find so much joy, support, and acceptance. It's truly unlike anything I've ever felt.
As for one of the things I enjoy about this fandom in particular? It's you and your fics! I have read ALL of your fics— some multiple times— and cannot shut up how much I adore them in your comments. Your fics bring me a lot of happiness and positivity, my friend!
I'm sorry I wrote you a whole essay T_T
I'm sorry you've been surrounded by so much negativity, that's sounds exhausting af. I hope my yapping helps you a tiny bit somehow!
Sending you lots of love, friend! 💛
I LOVE AN ESSAY. There really is so much to be said for fandom as a space where you don't have to pretend to be chill and unaffected haha, and where you get to find a bunch of people who are Extremely Fucking Invested in the same thing you are Extremely Fucking Invested in!
Also I'm gonna CRY that's so NICE.
(And to be super clear, what has me down at the mo is mostly Non Fandom Stuff, it's just making me more sensitive than usual to negativity and complaining everywhere in my life lmao. I'm tiiiiiiiiiiiiiired I need JOY.)
[tell me what you LOVE about fandom]
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20 q's for fic writers
tagged by the incomparable @strangethings-everywhere ty sweetness 🤍
How many works do you have on AO3? i am one hundred years old and have never made an ao3 account so i'll answer these abt my tumblr LOL i have 8 works on my masterlist currently
What's your total AO3 word count? brother i've no idea FJLDJSFD
What fandoms do you write for? oh so many, obvs primarily HL and TBITB right now but i'd love to get into writing GOT, Dune, and some nichier ones hehe
Top five fics by kudos? no idea of the other four but my fic Birdie seems to be That Girl
Do you respond to comments? always try to!! they make my entire life!!
What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? errr maybe my ominis gaunt arranged marriage fic where she DOESN'T run away with him at the end mwahaha
What is the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? all the other ones DJAFLDKSFJL i am a happy ending truther 😭
Do you get hate on fics? in the past probably...definitely have gotten demands and way-too-detailed suggestions about fics but i have never and will never give people who are too afraid to create something the power to critique it :/ #writeityaself
Do you write smut? severus snape voice obviouslyyyyy
Craziest crossover? does brainstorming a crack threesome w @seasidesandstarscapes count JFLKSJFLSJF
Have you ever had a fic stolen? soo many, people have definitely taken advantage of the fact that i'm not on ao3 by yanking my stuff and putting it on there but i have opps everywhere so people usually let me know when that happens LMAO
Have you ever had a fic translated? i do not think so but would love to!
Have you ever co-written a fic before? yesss back in the day me and my girls would ALL the time and i think it is such an excellent exercise to build on what someone else starts!!
All time favorite ship ugh impossible...probably something dorky like macdennis
What's a WIP you want to finish but doubt you ever will? i have a newt scamander /squib!fOC fic sitting in the drafts that i can't seem to crack but i love the beginning very dearly 🥺
What are your writing strengths? if i find any i'll let y'all know
Thoughts on dialogue in another language? perfection when done correctly!! usually if i don't speak any of the language i won't do more than a word or two, though, to be safe.
First fandom you wrote in? oh my godly goodness....maybe genuinely like one direction or something like that when i was TEENY TINY do NAHT hold it against me
Favorite fic you've written? oh i had some i really loved from old fandoms but currently, probably my silly little garreth weasley bridgertonesque fic...she was so pretty and fun to write <3 also very sweet spot in my heart for my bobby moch fic fair game 🥺
anna said there's no 20th question so i'l just say i love you :)
zerooo pressure tags for @wedonthaveawhile @pluviowriting @myokk mes enfants 🤍
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Coming to terms with stuff
The first thing I come to terms with is that Tumblr has somehow blacklisted me. I've been told that you can't find my posts (unless someone who follows me has reblogged them) and that you can only see my blog if you follow me. Interesting. I guess it has to do with the fact that I post Mature Content. And that I apparently use tags deemed problematic by Tumblr. Which means I don't really need to be surprised that I get virtually no interaction anymore if no one (or very few) reblog my pictures. Because apparently I only exist on a very limited scale now. Well, there's nothing I can do about that. Then that's just the way it is.
That's reassuring in a way, because it means that I'm not suddenly drawing so crappy that nobody cares anymore, but that I'm just not drawing well enough for enough people to reblog it and thus avoid the shadowban.
It's still a major dickmove by Tumblr - but until the anti-sexuality climate in America changes for the better again, there's nothing I can do about it.
The second thing I'm trying to come to terms with now is that Warhammer fandom seems to be moving away from Tumblr. My feed is getting emptier. I see fewer amusing rants, fewer completely weird headcanons, hardly any "hey, I wrote a fanfic, check it out!" posts, and far fewer new pictures from fanartists.
Or, who knows - maybe all these other content creators are shadowbanned like me? Maybe Tumblr has muted them too?
I guess it's like everywhere else: fandom is moving to Discord. And that's where I can't follow.
For me, Discord is a sensory overload of a thousand messages that I can't cope with. It first confuses me, then exhausts me and finally makes me aggressive. It's just too much. It's like standing in a central station at rush hour and not having headphones to block it all out. So now I am excluded from this new medium that unites so many fans.
I'm not asking for it to go back to "the way it used to be". I just have to come to terms with the fact that I'm not really in fandom any more, even though I'd like to be. I'm waving from outside and hoping for reports from friends who still catch things.
And the last thing I want to come to terms with is that the things I particularly love and find interesting in the Warhammer universe are not shared by many others. No matter how often and enthusiastically I hold up my Blorbos and shower them with glitter - they are and remain uninteresting to the majority of other fans. Fulgrim is the most likely to be Flavour of the Month, but I'm more interested in his Legion than in him, even though I love his tragic, dramatic and monstrous aspects (and even those are things that meet with very few other fans' approval).
I am happy that I have found friends whom I can bombard with my ideas and images. And from whom I get their ideas and works in return. That's great and fun.
But still … it's like we say in Germany: Früher war mehr Lametta! ("there used to be more tinsel.")
I want to make do with the little tinsel I have and be happy.
That is a little like Zen!
Accurate depiction of me drawing Lucius and Saul.
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https://www.tumblr.com/olderthannetfic/757095427492478976/ok-serious-question-western-media-why-are-people
My experience has been that in fandoms where the most popular character in fanfic is a POC and the most popular ship involves them, people can’t just celebrate. Instead, it’s discourse about how everyone is doing it wrong, shipping the POC with a white character or even a fantasy race or alien is not as progressive as shipping them with this other POC (or vice versa) (almost always what is going on is the first, more popular ship is text or heavy subtext and have a lot of chemistry and the less popular, supposedly more “progressive” option is two people who either never interact, or their interactions don’t have any of that kind of chemistry). And not that there is not any reason to complain about how people not from that culture write POC or non Western characters — I’ve seen some wild shit, 101 examples of orientalism and noble savage shit in fandom, for sure — but when these people make it so NOTHING is good enough, I have to wonder if fandom racism is something they WANT to find in every fandom. Like people did what you wanted, wrote stuff on the character of color! And yet rather than enjoy it you’re still looking for things that are somehow insidious about it… is it a lack of trust based on bad experiences in prev fandoms + confirmation bias, or just being unpleasable?
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All of the above. This pattern is everywhere, and it is obnoxious as hell... but I also know what it feels like to have higher—perhaps unreasonably high—standards for things that hit close to home.
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Hi, just wanted to remind you that I still love all the ego stuff you wrote. I was a big lurker during the time you actively wrote it but dude it was so fucking good.
When I think about the egos, I mostly think about your stuff bc it made the characters come to life. It was so good. I can’t say it enough.
The stuff I’m pulling from memory rn is Anti’s time in The Forgotten. Like my bro, my dude, my homie. That shit pulled at my heart. The fact that he was only gone for like a day or smt in our dimension but he had actually been gone for like 10 years in that dimension experiencing horrors unknown. AND NOBEDY KNEW???? Good shit.
The relationship between the Host and dr. Iplier. Still one of my fav bromances. Like the trust between them and how it was made through hardships. It came to a point where Host even trusted Doc with his name??? Which gave him power over Host, something he was so afraid of. Doc made him a better man. Stopped him from being too cruel. But than he had to forget it bc he went insane. BUT BECAUSE HOST IS AN ASS, HE MADE DOC AND ANTI FORGET EVERYTHING. My guy, that’s your platonic husband and adopted son. Yes I was screaming about that. That still gets me going.
There is so much other stuff too though. Like Anti and Doc becoming family. The egos all getting closer. Phantom being an absolute menace every time he appeared. The Googles becoming more and more human over time.
You introduced me to Wiggles. Didn’t know anything about PJ before I started reading your works.
What it all boils down to, is me wanting to thank you. I don’t know how you look back on those ego stories but it got me through some dark times. You updating it always made my day better. I still carry a piece of it with me everywhere I go and has also inspired me a lot. So thank you!
Oh man, thank you so much for taking time to send this! It's honestly insanely encouraging to hear those stories stuck with you. I still love them a lot myself, cringe or no, because they're such a fun time capsule of that period in my life, and this blog and all the people who followed it (lurkers and all) also helped me get through college in one piece.
Gosh I did put Anti through so much, but in my defense, it was for character development! He and Ollie were always one of my favorite dynamics to write, personally. I mean, the computer glitch demon and the sentient android with a heart of gold? I still haven't made up something that good since. Also the Mare and Phantom dynamic, which they were always managing to screw up somehow. Unhealthy sibling dynamics are the best.
It's also insane that so much of the Host stuck with you because he was always my favorite to write and the one that felt the most like mine at the end of the day. The fact that Mark announced he'd retired him as a character and we all collectively agreed to kidnap him and give him a story is still one of this fandom's shining moments in my mind. In fact, I've kinda snagged Host for different original stories I'm writing now just because I miss writing him so much. I've also kept The Forgotten as a concept, which is definitely getting used in a setting I'm working on now because the angst potential is indeed too good to deny.
Also, while we're strolling down memory lane, what one writer gets to wipe their entire canon midway through and start over again in an alternate timeline whilst using references to the previous timeline to terrorize their readers? Ending one timeline of the blog to begin another was a wild but fascinating experiment on my part to see how I could use it to play with foreshadowing and all that jazz. Plus nothing will ever quite beat letting the audience reach into the narrative and start making their own waves from time to time.
But even though I do mostly original stories now, I'm still loving writing found families and platonic soulmates and maybe the redeeming of one or two villains, so I appreciate all the practice and the feedback I got from these stories! I'll probably keep sneaking Ego references into my stories forever. I'd also be curious to know which story arcs stuck with other people??
#i forgot how much i love talking about these stories though#its been too long!!#markiplier egos#jse egos
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20 Questions for Fic Writers
Thanks to @saybiwithme, @sznofthesticks, @bonheur-cafe, and @strandnreyes for the tags!
How many works do you have on ao3?
107 Works
What's your total ao3 word count?
414,110
What fandoms do you write for?
911 Lone Star right now. But I have also written NCIS LA, SEAL Team, Heartstopper, 911, NCIS, Harry Potter, Star Wars, Teen Wolf, Numb3rs, Power Rangers, Sea Patrol, and I think one random Chicago Fire fic lol.
Top five fics by kudos:
The House in the Pines Where the Road Ends
The Good, the Bad, and the Very Ugly
Shiner
Hold Onto Me
The Austin Chronicle Hot Sauce Festival
Do you respond to comments?
Almost always on new fics and I try to remember to respond when people comment on old fics because I am SUPER grateful to anyone who ever says anything nice to me about my work!
What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?
I Could Have Loved You- It's a SEAL Team fic where Sonny and Lisa spend six weeks together before she heads off to Officer training. It's a divergence from what ended up happening on the show and the ending is super sad because they basically say that if they'd had more time they could have really fallen in love and built a life together, but their careers are taking them in different directions.
What is the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?'
Oh, basically all the rest? I prefer a happy ending.
Do you get hate on fics?
When I posted on ff.net I got some really nasty stuff. Most people on AO3 have been lovely!
Do you write smut?
No...not like SMUT smut. Like...heavy sexiness verging on smut I guess...It's not explicit.
Craziest crossover:
I wrote a Lone Star/Rookie crossover for @bluenet13 that I posted on Tumblr but I don't think I ever added to my AO3. Maybe I should...
Have you ever had a fic stolen?
Not that I know of.
Have you ever co-written a fic before?
Not yet!
All time favorite ship:
Ah! I don't know! Probably Tarlos and Nick/Charlie.
What's a wip you want to finish but doubt you ever will?
I have a fic about T.K. wanting to have sex everywhere and Carlos being like, "ABSOLUTELY NOT" but it is barely more than an idea and I don't know if I'll ever really get it off the ground.
What are your writing strengths?
Dialogue!! Banter!
What are your writing weaknesses?
Ugh freaking world building. Scenic description. Yikes.
Thoughts on dialogue in another language?
I do my best if it's needed for the fic!
First fandom you wrote in:
I hand wrote Star Wars FanFiction in notebooks when I was like twelve years old.
Favorite fic you've written:
I'm very proud of my one little Heartstopper fic Rugby King because I think it turned out very cute and Nick and Charlie are super in character. But I also really love You Have the Right to Remain Silent (But I Know You Won't) because it's super silly and I think I got everyone's voices just right!
Tagging @lemonlyman-dotcom, @ladytessa74, @liminalmemories21, @im-overstimulated-and-im-sad, and @cold-blooded-jelly-doughnut.
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is that okay if i hate when fandom assign a color to a batfam character and uses it everywhere?
i mean the ones where they assign dick-blue jason-red tim-yellow? orange? damian-green stephanie-purple duke-yellow. it just feels shallow and boring. especialy since i associate dick-blue jason-red tim-yellow or orange damian-green with fanon characterisation of them.
these colors might still be part of them but these are not their only difference and it feels like doing this takes nuance from their character.
and i feel like color red didnt have much signifiance for jason before he become red hood? the name and helmet had red because of the original user of this title not because he actively chose red and it was stated in canon his favorite color was green, yet so many people use red for his character in fandom stuff.
my problem is not even they use red, its that they seem to use ONLY red, EVEN with robin jason, thats what puts me off. idk i am just tired of seeing this happen everywhere.
(sorry if i wrote something wrong.)
I don’t mind it all time, but it’s often really annoying. Bruce said Jason loved green! Red is only a thing because of the Red Hood, but that doesn’t mean everything Jason owns is red. and, like you said, it especially doesn’t work for Jason pre-death.
And Dick wore red, yellow and green for longer than he’s worn blue! way before he wore blue. and why are they colour coded as civilians too? it’s not that deep but it brings me out of it sometimes.
Steph in purple everything actually does bother me because “purple and waffles” are treated as 90% of her character
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