#when bertie meets queenie he asks her where jeeves is and queenie at that point just calls him mr. jeeves - that makes complete sense

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#i think bertie had to have had no inkling that queenie and esmond getting engaged was a risk no matter who queenie was#because they’re trying to get him together with gertrude#so if he’d suspected anything between them he would have warned catsmeat regardless#i don’t think i remember any cases of him going ‘hm you and queenie seem to be getting awfully close no?’#so yeah jeeves mentioning it to bertie and bertie mentioning it to catsmeat feel equally improbable#jeeves probably wouldn’t have mentioned uncle charlie if he hadn’t been asked how he knew so much about deverill hall#and when he was he probably considered the uncle to be sufficient explanation#it IS odd though that he keeps trying to share the gossip on his aunts but never mentions any other relatives though#maybe his aunts just have more applicable problems. or maybe they DON’T have these problems and jeeves is making up stories about them#columbo style. instead of a wife he has aunts#i suppose he wouldn’t have brought up mabel a) because it wouldn’t be nice to her to broadcast that she was stood up by her fiancé#and b) because coming right out and saying ‘i don’t want to help biffy because i’m mad he stood up my niece’#would’ve been too direct and familiar for him#then with stuff like egbert it might be just his usual reticence or maybe#the theatrical little shit likes to hold that kind of info back so he gets the maximum impact when he explains his master plan later#with the sister i dunno i suppose if she’s alive he’s just pulling a spock#i’m glad we’ve settled who the hansom-addicted aunt was though#not that i would have suspected it was aunt silversmith because as you know i headcanon that side of jeeves’s family as jewish#(and therefore their solution wouldn’t be to get a priest to talk to her)#oh and then with comforting the parlormaid he might’ve mentioned it to seppings because seppings is another servant#which is probably what you were saying actually. that he’ll mention that sort of thing to someone at his status level but not above#now that i think about it he didn’t mention hos servant friend in indian summer of an uncle until he absolutely had to either#in conclusion he’s a weird little guy

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So about that thing where Jeeves will just not bring up that he's related to someone way past the point where it'd be normal. because we go the entirety of The Mating Season without Jeeves bringing up that since Silversmith is his uncle and Queenie is his daughter, she has to be his cousin.

‘Yes, sir, in the servants’ hall. He was helping Queenie, the parlourmaid, with her crossword puzzle.

On one hand, why on earth wouldn't he mention here that that's his cousin? On the other, if Jeeves had mentioned it Bertie couldn't be surprised about it when Silversmith talks about how his daughter has gotten engaged to Catsmeat - and if Bertie had known, he might have told Catsmeat to stay away from her, so he wouldn't have ended up engaged to her, which might have made for less entanglement, and entanglement is what the entirety of The Mating Season is about. But realistically, would he even have told Catsmeat? Bertie-knows-Silversmith-is-Queenie's-father-and-doesn't-tell-Catsmeat isn't really any more contrived than Jeeves-doesn't-mention-that-he's related-to-her, though of course, it's a very Jeeves thing to do. (so is the reason why Jeeves never talks about family in detail because of all the times he has tried to tell someone and also Bertie something about some of his aunts and gotten the answer that actually no, We Do Not Care About Your Family and he's taking it to heart?)

(and it isn't that Jeeves never talks about his affiliances with other servants - way past the point where he regularly brings up his friendships with other servants, in Tie that Binds, Seppings talks about how Jeevs is "comforting the parlourmaid" after she got struck by a potato.)

Same with Egbert - he doesn't mention the cousin until he absolutely has to. And also Mabel, who he only tells Bertie is his niece when he genuinely can't avoid it. To the point where the fact that in order to have a niece he has to have a sibling - side note, it has to be Mabel's mother who is his sister instead of her father being his brother, right? Since, when reminded of the address of his hotel, Biffy recognizes it, but Bertie mentions that he'd left the address with Jeeves - and if Biffy, who can be reminded of and then recognize things he's forgotten, is thinking about how he's forgotten Mabel's last name, wouldn't he have noticed that oh actually, her last name was Jeeves? Which opens up the option of her being dead, this being the reason why Jeeves never mentions his sister, despite the fact that the common ground between a milk-walk in Clapham or a boot-shop in Crinklewood is that it's located in London, so Jeeves should have family he never mentions basically next door. But seeing as how he never mentions family either, she could be perfectly alive and well and Bertie wouldn't know.

The same being true for Charlie Silversmith's wife - he has a daughter, so chances that he has a wife are quite good, actually. She might be dead, but then, she doesn't have to be. Given that Uncle Charlie is in service as well, it could be that Jeeves just doesn't know her as well, since Uncle Charlie married her at some point after becoming a butler, and that that happened at some point after all of Jeeves' childhood visits, but extrapolating from Jeeves' reticence to talk about his family, she might be attending the village concert and spending her time catching up with Jeeves.

Which would work out to the three aunts Jeeves claims to have in Tie that Binds - Aunt Emily who is interested in psychical research, Aunt P.B. Pigott with the cat, and the third aunt who is married to Uncle Charlie. (out of all the mentions of aunts Jeeves has, that'd mean that there is at least one that is clearly assignable to a specific aunt - Jeeves has "an aunt [...] who resides in the south-east portion of London. Their temperaments are much alike. My aunt has the same taste for the pleasures of the great city. It is a passion with her to ride in hansom cabs", which would then have to be Aunt Emily with the psychical research, since Aunt P.B. Pigott lives in Maiden Eggesford and Aunt Silversmith would likely live in Deverill Hall in Hampshire)