#what he'll actually potentially sacrifice love for is friendship!
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winepresswrath · 2 years ago
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i will not accept changheng slander/compliments about how he'll sacrifice his love for his duty when halfway through the second act he raises both middle fingers to duty and walks backwards into hell-dimension jail, only to then break out of jail, take himself completely out of commission and leave his people with no real defense against the enemy, and then follow that up with trying to taunt his brother into killing him because without love he doesn't want to live. this man is insane. Both lanhua and dongfang qingcang struggle significantly more with duty vs. love! Even before Changheng rebels completely he's less prioritizing his duty and more aware that if his brother catches wind of his feelings he's going to start looking for excuses to permakill the object of his affections. He's planning on breaking up with his fiancée if he can ever find her! He lowkey thinks at least half of the people who rely on him wouldn't be much of a loss and is probably willing to let the rest of them burn if he really has to. He's not Ronghao so he's probably not going to be the one setting them on fire but Ronghao is 100% correct that they are in fact very similar people.
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unlimitedhearts · 1 year ago
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I’m dreading the third game of Spiderman might kill off Harry :/ either he’s goblin (solo or probably along with daddy-o) and dies a la Hero Sacrifice. Or kept comatose and in the end with grim results the decision is to pull the plug on him. idk I feel Harry’s fate is doom and gloom. But they could have killed Harry at the end of this sequel giving a strong motivation for Norman to be the Goblin and hatred for Spider-Man…yet they didn’t. idk rambling thoughts. What do you think?
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Personally i can see both options. I saw someone in the tags of my last headcanon post say that it wouldnt make sense to save him from death in this game only to kill him in the next. On some level i get that, why wait when you could do it now?
I have two worst case scenarios in my head:
Harry wakes up from his coma w amnesia a la the third Tobey Maguire movie. Hes unaware of Pete being Spider-Man and Peter, thinking hes protecting Harry, wont tell him. This may cause a rift in their friendship when Harry finds out - or if Norman ends up going goblin and dies - Spider-Man is to blame in Harrys eyes and he'll go after him then. To me this is a tired trope of Harry getting an intense hatred for Spidey and wanting to kill him over his father. It always felt out of character for me and i truly TRULY hope they dont go this route.
Harry becomes the Kobold. In the comics, Kobold is essentially Harrys way of making the Green Goblin a good guy. If he still wants to fight by Peters side, he'll find a way to do it. Kobold would make a lot of sense to me personally, as it kind of continues their dynamic from this game. Then at the end theres a heros sacrifice to be made and Harry goes for it despite Peters protests. This would be lazy to me too though because he essential already did the heros sacrifice in this game. Seems like theyd just want us to have more time with him to love him even more, just to make losing him hurt worse. I wouldn't put it past an intrepid writer to think they could make it work, but it just seems lazy to me.
Actual best case scenario for me though? Harry wakes up as the g-serum is being injected. Hes against being his dads experiment all over again so he runs and finds Peter. Hes not aware of his pseudo-retirement, he just goes straight to the place thats always been his safe haven; Peters home. He asks Peter to hide him from his dad. Tries to explain everything but hes exhausted and frantic. Peter agrees and they take him into hiding.
Norman, ever the expert deflector, doesnt see this as a failing on his part. Hes convinced spider-man had something to do with his son escaping so he puts out a hit on him. Hes ready, willing, and able to capture and kill at least one of the two spider-men it doesnt matter. We see him pardon Wilson Fisk for this job, and when Fisk cant do it, he has to. Normans going to go Goblin. I know it, i can feel it in my bones.
Miles asks Peter to get back in action and he does. Fisk, plus potentially Otto again, plus this brand new villain in town is too much for any one person to handle. Heres where i see Harry becoming a "Guy In The Chair" for Peter like Ganke is for Miles. Two Guys in the Chair helping the spider-men is definitely better than one. I could also see Harrys goblin powers start to emerge but he keeps pushing them down. Last time he gave into power it didnt end well for anyone.
In an effort to not write out the entire plot of the game as i see fit (because itd be long and there are so many moving pieces and characters and IDEK WHERE THEYRE GONNA PUT SILK IN-), i think if Harry does take on the cowl he'll be doing so against his father. I think i see Harry becoming Goblin/Kobold to fight against Norman and ultimately try to help Peter/Miles. This is where i see Harry either accidentally killing Norman or Norman killing his son (and of course, blaming Spider-Man)
There is also room, in my mind, to bring back Venom a la Lethal Protector/Agent Venom. But tbh if they do, i would much rather Venom go to Eddie Brock or Flash Thompson. But thats just the separate Venom Fangirl Entity within me.
Ultimately my hope of course is that Harry not die and they dont go down that all too tired and hackneyed trope of Harry growing to hate Peter dor whatever reason. I truly TRULY hope they dont go that route it is just SO tired and lazy. I want them to stay close and loving. Whatever route they go with will be SO MUCH MORE IMPACTFUL if Harry Osborn lives and doesnt make a full 180 on his best friend for no good reason.
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eldritch-spouse · 1 year ago
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I just had to break off a 2 year friendship but it actually went really well, we talked about it, came to an agreement and parted ways.
How would the clergy members react to (humor me because haha friends outside the clergy? No.) An s/o being sad and quiet after breaking off a friendship?
Thank you pinnie. I present thee a bagel sacrifice :3
[I mean, it's all a variation of the same really...]
Dropping a friend
Morell doesn't even feign sadness for you. Well, you broke it off, now it's time to move onto greener pastures right? One less obstacle to divide your attention, now you can pay attention to the important things.
Gallon coaxes you somewhere so you two can drink and talk about it. If you ask him, that's not the only friend you should probably part ways with, in all honesty. Though he's mostly preoccupied with making you forget aaaall about that person. What was their name again? Who cares.
Santi rubs a hand on your back. Well, it's better this way, isn't? But he doesn't like that frown at all. You can make better friends in the future, he might introduce you to some of his! Now, how about he works a little magic in you and make it all better?
Grimbly doesn't hide his disdain. Well, it sucks, but honestly they were shitty. You're much better off without them, for sure. Grimbly knew this would happen, and he told you to drop them earlier, but you don't listen to him, do you mommy? Tsk.
Nebul is another one who likes to sit you down and process it. Except he's going to talk circles around you, in way that might raise your walls to anyone you meet in the future. You don't want to waste years of your life on someone who you don't even know will be respectful to you, right? Let's not let that happen again.
Belo commends you on your ability to get rid of the insufferable pests in your life. If you ask the angel, he thinks your real potential is being muddled by these bad influences. Clearly, this is not the type of acquaintance you should be having, and Belo would like you to consider some other vermin connections.
Fank-e makes a little sad face on his screen. That sucks balls, but guess what!! There's a bazillion friends out there on the Internet, how about Fank-e show you some places where you can make friends?? He's still the best though, of course. You know that.
Vinnel is sad that he didn't get to them first. Fuck, guess he'll have to be quicker next time... That's one less domino. Poppet, the less you have, the better. Your friends are hilarious really, they're the funniest jokes ever- Get real, since when do you need people like that in your life. Get some taste in people, he's been the only good choice you made.
Patches tries to come off as empathetic, lord does he. But it just doesn't stick. He's bad at it. You'll have an awkward conversation where he lets it slip that he thought the other person was unintelligent and bland and he's glad you're going to stop talking about them now.
Sybastian could not give less of a fuck. That's relieving news, more time for him and the mimiclings. Now come join them to eat, no more talk of your silly little human friends.
Krulu is stroking you from all sides, several hands rewarding his beautiful vessel as he whispers praises in your ears for being so good, for listening to your lord when he tells you to drop someone. You're going in the right path, Krulu loves you.
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tiodolma · 2 years ago
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The moment i saw Merlin trick Arthur into pulling out a sword from the stone like a hero from the legend, i thought “this guy’s ego is what is keeping that idiot on the throne”
Merlin’s self-worth hinges on Arthur becoming King of Everybody lol
And it’s not bad writing. Actually I think it is an interesting kind of storytelling. The gaslighting, the lies, the bastardy, the successes Merlin gets from it, it all feeds his ego. I headcanon that it is what thrills and excites him the most. Coz it gives him a sense of purpose. It gives him worth. It gives him the feeling of himself “being and doing right.”
Sure. I know he cares about the guy, loves him even, believes in his potential goodness, he absolutely does. But Fulfilling his mission gives Merlin great personal victory as well.
If Merlin just took a step back AND REALLY THINK, he would have realized that he didn’t have to force Arthur into kingship. But if he did that then all his hard work and sacrifice would have been for nothing, that he had been wrong! That's painful!
That’s why he is willing to turn a blind eye to the crimes, to the injustice (btw that’s not friendship anymore, not love either. that's something else). Because heck he’s gonna do his job. He’ll keep him alive. He’ll play god for him. He'll die for him. Arthur will become a better King, if that’s the last thing Merlin could do.
That’s egotistical as heck. Ofc it’d lead him to the deep pit of depression and self blame in S5. It’s fascinating to watch.
Colin Morgan acted him so well.
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