#well that sure was harrowing

[twentythirteez]

Transcripts of the 3 images in the tweet linked above (which I've also pasted below):

Image 1 (the one with the photo of JYP):

Park Jin-young is a born-again Christian who holds a fetishized perception of Jewish people, believing that they have a divine mandate to colonize Palestine and establish Israel based solely on biblical justification. Park Jin-young leads weekly bible classes, where he's defended Israel's existence because God chose the Jews and "because it says so in the Bible". He says he had travelled to Jerusalem, "Israel" for two months to study the Bible.

(The first photo also indicates that JYP is a musician, founder, and board member of JYP Entertainment.)

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Image 2 (warning: JYP manages to simultaneously come across as extremely Zionist and antisemitic at the same time here. Also, mentions of cults.):

JYP Explains God Chose Jews For A Reason, A Belief Strongly Held By Salvation Sect

His logic is identical to the teachings of Kwon Shin Chan, who created the doctrine for the Salvation Sect which was spread by his son-in-law, Yoo Byung Eun. Israel's salvation is the first stepping stone in drawing people into their sect.

JYP explained that God chose Jews because they were the smallest population. He quoted Deuteronomy 7:7 : "The lord did not set his love on you nor chose you because you were more in number than any other people, for you were the least of all peoples."

He claims that God still favors the Jewish population even today. He named some of the largest global corporations as his evidence. "All the companies on Wall Street are owned by Jews. Google, Facebook, Budweiser, Starbucks, they're all owned by the Jews."

He also quoted Isaiah 60:10, "the sons of foreigners shall build up your walls, and their kings shall minister to you; for in my wrath I struck you, but in my favor I have had mercy on you." He claimed the prophecy is coming true even now with former President Obama's act on Israel's Iron Dome. "Obama signed off on supporting Israel's Iron Dome. The US is paying to build a missile system on Israel's borders. Why? Because it says so in the Bible. 'The sons of foreigners shall build up your walls, and their kings shall minister to you.' The missile systems are the walls."

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Image 3 (another warning for discussion of cults):

J. Y. Park, founder and chief producer of JYP Entertainment, explained himself on allegedly being part of a cult.

J. Y. Park appeared on the August episode of MBC's 'Radio Star' that aired and explained the stories of his faith and how he became known to be part of a cult.

In the episode J. Y. Park stated that he had travelled to Jerusalem, Israel for about two months in the past. While traveling J. Y. Park studied the Bible. He explained, "I understood with my mind but could not believe with my heart."

Then his friend asked "Hey Jinyoung, can you teach me the Bible?" J. Y. Park continued to state that "I told my friend I don't believe but my friend said he can understand it very well if I teach him even though I don't believe. On the fifth day we studied together, my friend said that he is able to believe."

Ultimately, his friend introduced J. Y. Park to his junior and they continued to study the bible. J. Y. Park stated that the Bible study group became bigger and suddenly in 2017, he was able to believe as well.

jyp debut on zionists in music…

[vaguely-concerned]

sometimes I think of all the on-the-surface warm, well-meaning but deeply ineffectual advice and attention john gives harrow through harrow the ninth (make some soup and get some sleep! get a hobby! don't be so hard on yourself! self care harrow! as long as I need take no actual responsibility in this relationship whatsoever I would have loved to be your dad!) set up against the stark truth that with his other hand he has been staging her attempted horrific murder again and again and again like a living nightmare on the logic that it will 'put her down or fix her'. and then I find that I wish there is a hell. a special hell where twitch streamers turned necromantic death emperors go

[divorcedwife]

my mage amell ! her name is bunny and she's the third most popular mage in the tower

[oysters-aint-for-me]

harrow the ninth is so funny. her coworker/brother keeps trying to brutally murder her and her boss/dad is like “damn that sucks. you should make soup about it”

[mayasaura]

The way The Locked Tomb uses cannibalism is so interesting, because while it does serve as a metaphor for intimacy, the series only uses it that way when it's cannibalism of the soul. Cannibalism of the flesh is either extremely limited, or straight up horrific.

Like step six of the Eightfold Word. It's literally presented as "consume the flesh," but Ianthe goes out of her way to specify that a single drop of blood is sufficient. The most unhinged act of intimacy in the series, and it's explictly the soul and only the soul being digested.

Human flesh is only consumed in any volume twice: John's post-apocalyptic survival cannibalism, and Harrow's delicious murder soup. Both those scenes are exactly the opposite of intimate, and about as far from erotic as you can get.

John and Alecto gorging themselves on anonymous strangers was debasing to everyone involved, and not something John ever wanted to be reminded of. Harrow's soup was a desperate attempt at self-defense, like an animal in a trap gnawing through her own leg. It horrified and disgusted everyone at the table, even Ianthe, the number one suspect at making it weird.

I love the overall effect of the layered symbolism, because it allows cannibalism to be explored both ways. Seperately, without one connotation implicating the other. Except for Babs, of course, who gets to be both.

[raedas]

where in the locked tomb universe are we?

or: a tentative guide to the solar system in the locked tomb and which houses go where :)

[id: a diagram of the solar system, including pluto, with additional white text overlaid over each body. the sun is labeled dominicus, mercury is labeled the sixth, venus is the seventh, earth is the first, mars is the second, jupiter is the third, saturn is the fifth, uranus is the fourth, neptune is the eight, and pluto is the ninth. /end id]

note: i'm pretty sure people have put together similar analyses before, but i wanted to try my own hand at it! and please feel free to share if you disagree with me on anything & your own evidence and thoughts <3

evidence & analysis under the cut!

THE NINTH HOUSE:

okay, this one is pretty much just a freebie. if you didn't know that the ninth house was on pluto, then, uh... sorry! i'm not going to exhaustively go through all the evidence for this one, but some things that stick out are the cold, gideon's awe at how close the first house is to the sun, and the fact that it's the "ninth" to begin with—the house that wasn't really meant to exist, perfectly in line with the planet that isn't really a planet THE FIRST HOUSE:

this one is given to us just as much, if not moreso, than the ninth. with that in mind, i'm just going to do a quick run through of the evidence that the first house is earth: it's very blue and covered in water, there are ruins of civilization, it's "the first", so on and so forth. home, sweet home :)

THE SIXTH HOUSE:

Then he said, "The sun has stabilized. Hope the Sixth House didn't get cooked in the flare." (Harrow the Ninth, 490)

this line is pretty much the entire selling point for the sixth being on mercury, the closest planet to the sun! (until they run away to the other side of the universe, that is)

THE SEVENTH HOUSE:

There were other planets that made their homelands closer to the burning star of Dominicus--the Seventh and Sixth, for instance--but to Gideon they could not imaginably be anything else than 100 percent on fire. (Gideon the Ninth, 67)

the implication here is fairly obvious: the seventh and sixth are on venus and mercury, or vice versa. thankfully, since we have the sixth squared away as mercury, it's pretty obvious that the seventh is located on venus

BONUS MYTHOLOGY FACT: venus is the roman goddess of beauty! (also known by her greek name, aphrodite). "seven for beauty that blossoms and dies", huh?

THE EIGHTH HOUSE:

"I squeal so long and so loud that they hear me from the Eighth." (Gideon the Ninth, 26)

while this line is obvious hyperbole, to me it implies one of two things: either the eighth is the farthest planet from the ninth, or it's right next to them. and since we know that mercury already has its hands full with sixth house, i think it's safe to assume that the eighth is on neptune, the ninth's next door neighbor :)

THE SECOND HOUSE:

"We went through the same shitty questions of what to do. What about the Mars installation, what about the fusion batteries?" (Nona the Ninth, 74)

john helpfully offers this tidbit to us when he's recounting everything that happened leading up to the apocalypse to harrow. i think it says a lot that there was a mars installation even before the apocalypse properly hit, and it makes sense that said installation would eventually become a proper House, with a capital H

BONUS MYTHOLOGY FACT: mars is the roman god of warfare (known in greek as ares)! looks at the second house and how closely they're associated the cohort... yeah, i think that speaks for itself

THE THIRD & FIFTH HOUSES:

"I thought we'd end up on the Third or the Fifth, or a sweet space station, or something." (Gideon the Ninth, 56)

"We are not becoming an appendix of the Third or Fifth Houses," continued the necromancer opposite." (Gideon the Ninth, 58)

okay, here's this bit where things begin to get a bit hairy. repeatedly throughout the books, we're told about how the third and fifth are the two "big" houses. harrow's scared of them and worried they'll make the ninth one of their appendixes, gideon originally thinks the entire lyctoral meeting will be on one of their planets, so on and so forth. with that in mind, it really isn't that much of a stretch to think they'd be situated on the two giants in our solar system: jupiter and saturn. we'll come back in a moment to sort out which is which!

THE FOURTH HOUSE:

aaaand uranus is the only planet left! congrats, fourth!

THE THIRD & FIFTH HOUSES (again):

"Naturally [Isaac] is Pent's protégé. I hear the Fifth takes special pains with the Fourth... hegemonic pains, some may say." (Gideon the Ninth, 170)

from this quote, as well as the whole of jeannemary & isaac's relationship with magnus & abigail, we can surmise that the fourth house is very close to the fifth house (hegemonic though it may be). it's reasonable that that metaphorical proximity is reflecting (or caused by) something else: physical proximity. with that, i think it's fairly safe to assume that the fifth is on saturn, putting the third on jupiter

DOMINICUS:

aaand finally, the center of the solar system itself! i really, really don't think it needs sharing that dominicus is the sun, as long as you accept that the locked tomb takes place in our own solar system. however, i do think the meaning of dominicus is worth sharing. coming from latin, it translates roughly to "lordly", "belonging to god", or "of the master." very subtle, john, very subtle.

[cosmicrhetoric]

not exactly disappointed by the news that opla s2 will cap at drum island bc while im obviously terrified of the show getting cancelled before getting to alabasta it's like. that is the arc that made me (and a lot of other people i think) fall in love with the series as a whole it's one of the best shounen arcs (or tbh in all anime) ive ever seen and it needs to get it's due. like you need time to define the stakes....alabasta took the time to unpeel layer after layer of different kinds of suffering that was going on in the country like the pain of the citizens and vivi's utter desperation were so so so crazy that by the time you got to the end and they play ANTONIN DVORAK'S SYMPHONY NO 9 as crocodile is defeated and the rain starts to fall and vivi can finally stop screaming her lungs out and say "the nightmare is over" and you the viewer is like haha holy shit. the nightmare is over. so yeah im good with alabasta being an entire season 😃👍

[dorkfruit]

if i should fall, will it all go away?

every damn time .. love u saint of the grindset <3

[skywitchmaja]

trying to figure out how i wanna draw some necros and cavs 💀🗡️

[gideonisms]

My impression is that John admitted to those things because it gives the illusion that he's being upfront and forthcoming, while also avoiding admitting something much worse. Like... If a teenager breaks something, and admits to having a bad grade so their parents have something less severe to be distracted by? I think John has that kind of juvenile urge, taken to a frightening psychological extreme. And that obviously begs the question, what has he done that admitting to That Shit was the better optical choice? It's really interesting to think about

I think this is definitely a plausible read of his motivations! It's hard to say what exactly he was thinking but it does seem like he wants harrow to approve of him in some way even as he admits these things to her. Fundamentally I think John misjudges her level of commitment to him, and maybe he thinks they're on firm enough ground that he can admit to anything and she'll forgive him. It didn't work with alecto, cytherea, mercy, or augustine, but who knows! Maybe this time will be the time. He seems trapped in his own cycle

[rotisseries]

inspired by elli's poll lol cause this seems fun actually but if you guys have bad answers I'll kill myself on your doorstep or smth

[tallysgreatestfan]

Writing smut, frantically googling the medical terms for certain muscles or bones.

Writing from Dr. Cables perspective is hard, man.

[bookwyrminspiration]

reading gideon the ninth:

reading harrow the ninth:

[fanfairywren]

alright well it's decidedly not morning anymore but im expanding on my dulcie post from last night anyways. if she didn't exist for cytherea to replace her then cytherea never would've gotten caught. or it would've been too late when she did get caught. palamedes figured out what happened because he loved dulcie and he realised that wasn't her. what if that didn't happen? would all of them have died? would more people have survived or become lyctors because cytherea wouldn't have panicked and revealed herself before jod showed up? or even further back in the timeline!! if dulcinea wasn't dying palamedes wouldn't have been so focused on his studies so he could figure out how to save her. maybe him and camilla wouldn't have been there at all! maybe gideon never would've found harrow after she went missing that one time and they never would've gotten closer. maybe everything else would've gone down the same but harrow never spoke to palamedes in the river and figured out what was happening in her dreams. alecto would've never ended up possessing harrow's body which led to her getting freed from the tomb. dulcinea septimus was born to die. none of this would've happened without that. im going to scream.

[mikaorangeart]

Cain, Abel, the worthy sacrifice

I felt inspired to do something with a bit more of a trippy/experimental composition, so this happened! ...Honestly I'm a bit too burnt to really explain it further, other than to say I had a lot of fun with it.

[chaos-has-theories]

Absolutely devastated to learn that I was misremembering a specific detail from HtN.

She was glad to see that someone—maybe his mother, the mawkish Sister Glaurica—had painted his face as his father had once painted his own, with a solid black jaw to represent the Mouthless Skull. This was not because she had any especial love for the Mouthless Skull, as paint sacrament went. It was merely because any jawéd skull he affected became a wide white skull with depression.

For some reason I was convinced that Ortus exclusively wears the Mouthless Skull. I thought I remembered a discussion - or at least an implication - that he does it deliberately. He knows what happened to his father. He never speaks of it until he starts suspecting that he's dead, and may well die a second time. It would not be too surprising, if he'd at least suspected the truth about the creche flu. I thought -

I thought it was a deliberate act of rebellion. Something like civil disobedience. Look at me, it seemed to say. I am silent. I am silenced.

But no. He wears the Skull of the Anchorite Dying (whatever that means) at the arrival to Canaan House.

Oh well.