#well 🤷‍♀️ if it doesnt make sense it probably doesnt

[7-sided-dice]

TPOT 17 SPOILERS BELOW

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My Interpretation of the Subscriber Specials regarding the Tpot/Bfb timeline as of Tpot 17

(theories + rambling + a million questions i would like people to yap about cus i cant be the only one wondering whats going on)

Theres reason to believe that subscriber specials could be prequels (the first ones being before 4 and x left for bfb and so on)

We see that 6 is the last remaining being in the playground (this info can still be unreliable since 6 is in hiding(?) and seems to be running away from an active threat

Theres reason to believe that this threat is 2763 from the latest subscriber special except it doesnt make sense-

1) 6 was taken by 2763 that episode

2) 2 was also taken and yet theyre out and about- if 2763 was still a threat i doubt 2 would leave their homies with 2763 (also 2 left to host a show not to save themself)

3) The zero with the cap and i believe the other zeroes were left alone by 2763, where are they now?

This seems more like a timeline issue rather than 2763 not fitting the bill as a threat-

I propose that the debut of 2763 happened way before tpot during bfb, before 2 left to crash and host- this could explain why 4 and x arent there🤷‍♀️

I believe that the aftermath of 2763s attack also happened before 2 left as well given that 2s reasons for leaving felt more personal rather than for survival

Although 2763 could still very well be what caused whatever happened to the playground, I am not sure if 2763 is the problem or if there even is an active threat in the first place-

With the knowledge given in the tape- 6 wouldn’t have been hiding in a tree (given that it advised them to go underground instead of high places) and the zeroes would probably still be there, not only that the red sky is gone and 2763 only wanted to keep them in jail so where are they now? And why does 6 stay?

What caused the others to leave might have been something else.

(maybe idk i feel kinda redundant lmao)

I also have reason to believe that the others leaving and their reason for leaving might have happened AFTER 2 left to create tpot (because if there was a threat 2 knew of, i doubt they wouldnt leave their homies behind unless it was the others that made them decide to leave in the first place)

then again im not sure if the subscriber specials are canon el o el

Onto Present Canon!! Whew boy Im sure im not the only one who noticed the state of 1s dimension- 2 episodes ago when the possible end of the universe was happening she was calm, calculating, confident perhaps too confident

I can agree with others that confidence and ego is what caused her to be careless of donut and the portal, although they caught him anyway- Im surprised she went straight to outright yelling, emotional manipulation and idk pulling his limbs instead of trapping him there instead until he signed the deal in the first place (in hindsight she could have been rushing for the sake of whatever shes waiting for happening soon)

I wonder too what 1s goal is (please yap id like to yap back)- its clear it isnt just 2s power on the table considering that the whole destroying the universe and bringing objects to the playground feels like a bit too much effort (wouldnt she want the competition to go faster otherwise?)

1 seems really powerful and is technically free from the moon and able to go wherever they want to so why go through all that effort to screw with the timeline and putting cracks in the universe- surely there was another way to get gaty to sign I suppose :/

Also why does she need them to go in 4s mind? Why is 6 trying to contact 4? Do 4, 2 and x also know the state of the playground? (I saw some theories that 1 could be trying to contact 3 so I wanna know what yall think)

I also wonder if the door the previous tpot contestants were trying to open was 2s gateway to the playground but because it doesnt exist in the playground world (otherwise 6 would have seen it) it cannot open from the inside (it could also be 1s interference) unlike 4s door that exists in both worlds hence its openable-

Also how would they escape 2?

Not only that does 2 know about 1s involvement or is she interfering to make sure they dont know (i think its pretty obvious 4 and x have no clue🤷‍♀️)

Regardless 10/10 episode would like another one soon 🕊️

[amrv-5]

Horrid Horrid Day of the kind so rarely experienced trying to treat it as a dubious comedic blessing and also remember it’s cool to experience stuff even stuff that sucks and makes you (?) feel bad (probably???) freeverse insanity monologue to my own blog so I don’t commit a homicide

most of it death by 1000 papercuts sort of things besides like 3-5 big Actual Genuinely Bad Comically Ridiculous Chaotic Events (middle of the night hotel eviction and subsequent 35 mile relocation to a Diff Hotel for my parents due to the City Of [Redacted] abruptly buying out the rooms (?!) for the one they were in for some sort of emergency housing thing?? (this is real and really happened)) but after 12.5 hrs and then well 999 other things that happened mostly to Me etc.💥💥💥🔨🔨🔨💥💥💥🔨💥🔨😭🔨🔨🔨💥💥💥💥 godddd complicated relationship w parents aside it is so much to be Completely On and doing the Team Emotional Management the whole time whyyy am I the only grownup… can’t be tired or a little annoyed at being subject to last minute undiscussed demands on my time or even Drop The Cheerful Facade Of Bland Enthusiasm For A Second because I’m Ruining Things For Everyone. but also I’ve got 1 week break between semesters formally and I would like to: Sleep In + Get Meaningful Rest. please. Big ideal day plan wld be to sleep for 12-15 hrs read in bed for a few more go for a little run eat some oatmeal lay around watch movie without thinking about annnnyyything important all day. Is That So Much To Ask. Is This An Unreasonable Demand .

Well anyway I’m being soo dramatic and everything’s really pretty much fine. I cn recognize it’s nice that people went out of their way to make a trip here + want to spend a lot of time together it’s just that due to the Aforementioned Complicated Relationship the Spending Time Together is like. Well u know how wild boars when you stab them you have to have a special Boar Spear with a cross-bar because otherwise they will just keep running up your spear while impaled to Get You, The Spearholder? Well that’s what my relationship w my parents is like in this particular year. Getting stabbed and it sucksss but unfortunately there is the sense that if one keeps going thru the Horrid Feelings there may be some degree of satisfaction (easier or realer relationship? emotional connection? satisfaction of knowing I Tried My Best?) at the other end… but it has to be me (wild boar in this metaphor) doing alll of the work and experiencing the majority of the discomfort in pursuit of unclear ends… ahhhhhh sigh. good reminder I guess that I just still react weird and with maybe a greater than warranted degree of emotional sensitivity to extended intentional infringements on my space + autonomy that don’t take into account that I’m a person with opinions and an inner life and also I Slept Bad and several other problems so I’m much less patient than usual today. condensed: I’m At My Freakin Limit Dot JPEG rn. anyway. ouuughhh. home now going to run a bath (insane. who does that) turn off lights and just sit there in hot water for a while stewing (ha) until I feel less tense + tired (Big Win: reasonably tense + tired ≠ depressed…) maybe light a candle also. I wld bring a book into this if I didn’t know for a certainty I’d drop it in the water immmmmediately and the lathe of heaven doesnt deserve that from me. fuuuck. This probably makes me look insaaaane don’t read this. Or do whatever its my blog though sorry if u followed for fic and are just getting extended musings on my inner mental life + to do lists. In My Defense there’s a read more and if u see this You Clicked It And So Gave Ur Viewing Consent. In conclusion 👨‍👩‍👧🚗🏨🌃😭😔😑🤷‍♀️🙂➡️🛁🕯️📖🛌

[smoke-and-aurora]

I really don't want to talk about this irl because nothing is confirmed yet - it's all through the grapevine and one of the narrators is unreliable. But I'm hoping that by writing it down (again) and sending it out into the internet void, maybe I can let it go so I can get to sleep. My friend just told me that her mother, who is biphobic and against her daughter's poly marriage, brought it up with my dad while at their little dinner last weekend. My friend was not there, so only according to her mother, my dad agreed that bisexuality makes no sense and is not real - as well as lied about my multiple relationships with girls and claimed that I "suddenly" announced in Sept 2024 that I'm going to marry a woman. He has known I'm bi since I was 12. His late mother (my grandma) was gay. He has given me relationship advice while I was dating women. And to my face, he even accepted when I told him I sometimes use "they" pronouns (although I don't need him to do that) despite the fact that he probably doesnt really get it. Thats fine, you know, i dont need him to understand all the ways im different than he is. I'm just shocked by this reveal that he told my friends mom that he doesn't believe in all this gender and sexuality stuff and that I've had plenty of boyfriends so I'm probably not bi. Like, did she lie about that in order to needle my friend more about her marriage? Or did my dad actually say this really out of character stuff? Does he have dementia? Is his girlfriend of 1 year pressuring him to hide my identity? Why didn't we go see my late grandmother's partner for xmas like we always do? Why hasn't he even said her name to me in months? Does he have fucking dementia???? He is an age where early onset could happen. I feel so fucking sick. This man is my rock. He is the pillar that holds up my life. Why is this happening to us? What am I gonna do if he is becoming a bigot? What am I gonna do if he has dementia??? WHY is the best case scenario that he lied to my friends mom in order to keep the peace with her, thereby making my friend's life worse by emboldening her mother's bigotry? My friend's husband literally tried to comfort me by saying it's probably that - it's probably that he was in "chameleon mode" and either didn't say those things exactly how my friend's mom claims or pretended to agree with her in order to have a nice dinner.. the fucked up part is that yea, that's actually way better for me if true. It fucking sucks for everyone else though and crumbles my respect for my dad. But fucking hell I guess I'll take that over outright hatefulness and/or mental erosion. 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️😭

[songofthestarrs]

the way greed is a big theme in the grisha trilogy. we even have the quote "what is infinite? the universe and the greed of men." and how with the crows, as much as we joke about them doing it for the money, they aren't greedy. kaz goes on the ice court heist to seek revenge. inej goes on it for her freedom and those of others. matthias and nina were bound by honor for the most part. jesper may have needed the money but he isn't greedy for it. and same goes with wylan. but we can see how much greed indirectly influenced them to be in those positions.

as much as inej said that greed was kaz's god. it really isn't. he works for justice, for revenge. against whom? pekka rollins. the one who shows greed more than kaz ever will. pekka duped two young boys and countless many others out of their money, and some out of their lives. he did all the dirty work for the money. and kaz dedicated his life to avenging jordie and later making sure people like pekka don't do it to anyone else. and he goes on the heist for the money, not because of his greed, but to seek vengeance for what greed has done to this world.

the villain in inej's story is tante heleen. through inej, we see how people like tante heleen care about money more than anything else. she makes sure the girls in the menagerie never earn out of their indentures. she physically abuses the girls and then tells them she has to take from the money that they earn whenever there's blood on their bedsheets. and the second that kaz bought out inej to work under per haskell, tante heleen didn't even care and let inej go because she was given a sum. and she even taunts inej that she'll have her back because she knows she can earn from her. she's incredibly vain and greedy and i'm glad inej stole her diamond necklace in the ice court.

jesper's encounter with greed is probably the most common in ketterdam. people in ketterdam feed off of greed and all the dirty desires of the people. jesper's fallen into a lot of debt because of the casinos scattered all throughout ketterdam. and gambling houses are such a dirty means of profit but that's what ketterdam thrives off.

wylan, on the other hand, was disowned by van eck because of his dyslexia, because van eck didn't believe that wylan could properly carry on his legacy if he couldn't read. van eck goes to such severe means to build his empire, to earn as much as he can, as it is the religion of ketterdam. van eck ordered two people to kill wylan and drive him out to keep his reputation clean because if the merchant council only knew his dishonest ways, he would be kicked out and lose everything. he manipulates kaz into thinking he wants to save the world when he would gladly bring it to chaos if it meant he would have the power and the control. and his greedy and selfish ways are how he falls. and wylan helps bring him down.

nina and matthias are the most noble of them all. they went on the heist for both their people to be saved from the dangers parem could cause. but we can trace their place in the crows back to when they met. he was a druskelle and she was a grisha. a generations long prejudice, a war they've always had to face, because of the incredibly warped mindset of the fjerdans. as matthias says, what must it feel like to worship djel, knowing that he gave gifts to another? grisha power could be djel's hand and maybe the otkazat'sya were jealous and couldn't wrap it around their heads. and so with that came greed for control, greed for their god's favor to the point that they've missed what djel truly stood for. trying to justify all inherently evil actions they had to take when it all stemmed from envy and greed.

the greed of men is infinite, ancient, and common. i just find it intriguing how the crows are always described as criminals who will do whatever it takes for the right price but they are the farthest from greedy. they were shaped by greed, not their greed, but the greed that inhabits this world. and throughout the duology, we see how they all work against it in the end.

[jiminrings]

call me cruel but i cant wait for jk to feel hurt during the one month break and realise how oc feels, because him not telling sora about being married is lowkey on the same level as oc telling the world she’s single idc…🤷‍♀️ if jk wont tell people his relationship status proudly then how can he expect oc to do the same! cos even if its about ocs fame…its not like he had to tell sora her full name and any details? just that hes married!

also eunwoo….👀 im curious why oc is getting blamed for him and jk falling out. jk said him and sora outgrew each other, but never that that they outgrew at the same time? i lowkey think she has lingering feelings but is just too scared to make the first move since jk doesnt love her anymore, and since they are exes she probably knows him well enough to sense that.

also im wondering if eunwoo thought jk broke his cousins heart by moving onto oc, which wouldnt surprise me since jk clearly has the worst communication skills with everyone he interacts with in these chapters 💀

ur right ur right lol oc practically just reciprocated what jungkook did but kind of (read:absolutely) in a more public, career-defining way 😁😁 also the eunwoo bit.... im afraid that he’s just a naturally bitter casualty from jungkook n sora’s breakup!! he idolized jk too much as a brother figure but his actual blood relation to sora complicates it worse... so the next big thing to do for him was to pin all the blame on oc, and remove the fault from both jk and sora :// “jk clearly has the worst communication skills with everyone he interacts with in these chapters” STOPPPP U DID NOT HAVE TO AIR HIM OUT LIKE THAT I MEAN IT’S TRUE BUT U JUST MADE IT FUNNIER 😭😭

[ujustwaitsunshine]

Idk if you read the whole thing but what he said was a shit take for someone he calls a friend. He basically said how he would never change and then his team don't try to change him, which okay fair, but then he goes on saying 'unlike other driver like George who let their new team change them and make them less fun.'

Then he said it would be better if people could see the old him, that he would be more popular 🙄 if he was the old George. Like George already has fans turning on him for being at Merc and PR63 kinds of jokes about him being fake, he doesn't need a friend to basically traah talk him in a magazine because he's doing better than at Williams. Lando talks a lot about his struggles with fame and stuff but then turns around and does this... like why..

Also merc fans can multi task, we can care about both drivers and the shit show that is this sport.

ok ok im really not qualified to make much of a comment on this, i read the interview thing that someone posted and was like ok 🤷‍♀️

i mean i wouldnt even call myself a fan of lando? i dont really have anything against him i just dont think about him unless its a team thing so before you say anything im not biased at all. infact i probably prefer george? the thing is these are two drivers i dont think too much about in the first place.

i mean idk? listen im not a mercedes driver and im not a mclaren driver, im not in the positions they're in. maybe thats just the way the teams work, i mean it makes sense.

mclaren are more chilled, obviously still focused on winning or getting good points but their naturally going to be more chilled out.

mercedes is a massive team, most probably more pr stuff more media coverage, and with them used to being at the front, paired with the issues they’ve been having, theres probably a much more serious approach? Mercedes are really knuckling down at the moment so its no surprise to anyone that their drivers are maybe affected by that. Lando’s never had much of a way with words so i guess he’s just trying to get that across.

i will agree with you on his popularity comment, it certainly wasn’t necessary, it isnt a popularity game, especially from a drivers point of view as well, the aim is to win and drive well, not to see how funny you can be. Like i said i think lando can be a bit like that sometimes with his words and sometimes i feel like he can be a bit, idk, cocky? i cant think of the right word but im sure you’re aware that sometimes he can be a bit like that, i dont wanna say sometimes he thinks hes gods gift necessarily because i dont think its to that extent but its one of the reasons why i dont really like him as much as other drivers.

i feel like, i mean ill give him the benefit of the doubt, stuff like this happens all the time with the media, i highly doubt there was any bad intent there, the first part i get, the second part was a bit pissy of him to say but im sure it was in a jokey way like something you would say to your mate like “ohh maybe if you didn’t have your nose stuck in a book we’d be having more fun and you’d be a bit more popular” kinda thing yknow? but it doesnt really justified the comment. it was a stupid thing to say

i do totally get where you’re coming from, i really didnt like lando for a while over the no sympathy for daniel comment he made last year but at the same time lando and daniel are good friends now, im sure he didn’t want to intentionally upset daniel as im sure he doesn’t want to intentionally upset george

i think at this point maybe just accept lando really doesnt have a way with words, maybe i just think that and brush it off bcuz i dont tend to think about him but yeah.

idk 🤷‍♀️

edit : ok on later speculation, yeah ok he was a bit cuntish ill give you that. second shorter comment on it that probably makes more sense