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Rewatching In the Beginning
Welcome to “‘1.21 Gigawatts!’ ‘You are my density!’”: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
Up today, s4e3: In the Beginning.
Cas sends Dean back in time to meet his parents and his grandparents and to witness the moment when the Yellow-Eyed Demon sinks his claws into Mary. Dean decides to try to kill YED so that he and Sam can have a normal childhood, but, of course, that doesn’t work out. We also find out that Cas likes watching Dean when he’s sleeping. But they’re just friends. Uh-huh.
Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
[and we begin:]
Lor:
ngggggg Cas
Mace:
YAS
Mace:
his LIPS
Mace:
I mean, honestly
Lor:
YAAS
Lor:
tsk, Sammy, sneaking out while Dean is sleeping
Mace:
oh Sammy, sneaking out
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
LOL
Lor:
aw, Dean, get under the covers, baby
Lor:
"Hello, Dean"
Mace:
“hello, Dean”
Mace:
OMG
Lor:
LOLOLOL
Lor:
no Dean, he only likes to watch YOU sleep
Mace:
YAS
Mace:
Marty McFly vibes
Lor:
YES
Lor:
the little nods are SO GOOD
Mace:
YES
Lor:
oh look, young John takes care of strangers better than Dad!John will take care of his own kids
Mace:
YEP
Lor:
I love that it takes Dean a minute
Mace:
YES
Lor:
probably because based on the furniture in any house of anyone he's every liked, it still is the 70s
Mace:
omg yes, and all the motels
Lor:
YES
Lor:
I love the screaming angel wings title card
Mace:
me too!
Mace:
we’ve moved into the seizure-inducing era of the openings
Lor:
LOL yep
Mace:
Cas’s HAIR
Lor:
"well bend it back!"
Lor:
YAAAAAAS
Mace:
I would LOVE to have that van
Lor:
YES
Lor:
though I would take the Impala first
Mace:
of course
Lor:
Dean Van Halen haaaahahahaha
Mace:
DEAN VAN HALEN
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
LOL
Lor:
"been any cattle mutilations in town lately?"
Lor:
I love him
Mace:
SNORK
smooth, Dean
Lor:
oh yes. super smooth, super subtle
Mace:
omg Dean in a mirthmobile I LOVE IT
Lor:
YAAAAAS
Lor:
I love Mary's shirt
Mace:
YES
Lor:
"I'm going to hell. again."
Mace:
“...again"
Mace:
HAHAHA
Mace:
that’s hilarious because I was just thinking in the last scene, “Is John…attracted to Dean here?"
Lor:
RIGHT?
Mace:
oh look, Dean’s now been abused by both parents
Lor:
HA!
Lor:
yep
Lor:
"are you a hunter?" poor Dean. just upending his WHOLE life
Mace:
YEP
Lor:
"we're practically family"
Lor:
"clearly not enough"
Mace:
HA
Lor:
"Samuel and... Deanna?"
Lor:
HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Mace:
omg, I don’t think I caught that the first time around
Lor:
I LOVE that Mary named her firstborn son after her MOTHER
Lor:
I LOVE IT
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
omg Dean's face
Mace:
HAHAHA YES
Lor:
"the web of information you have assembled"
Mace:
HAHAHA
Mace:
OMG FATHER!DEAN
Lor:
OMG I forgot they both showed up separately in priest outfits!
Mace:
AM DED
Lor:
"Father Chaney" haaaahahahaha
Mace:
YAS
Mace:
he looks SO GOOD in that suit
Lor:
RIGHT?!
Mace:
and I want Mary’s coat
Lor:
YEP
Lor:
dun dun DUN
Mace:
HAHAHAHA YEP
Lor:
that is SO MUCH fruit salad for four people
Mace:
HA
Mace:
“who, where, and when” “why?” HAHAHA
Lor:
LOL
Lor:
you do not, Dean
Mace:
YEP
Lor:
"what's he like?" oh, Dean
Mace:
right?
Lor:
oh DEAN
Lor:
his FACE
Mace:
yeah, Mary, outsiders can’t break in
Mace:
right?!
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
him trying to make her not get killed in the future I CANNOT
Lor:
OH DEAN
Mace:
oh DEAN
Lor:
CAS APPEARING IN THE CAR
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
"Sam is not looking for you" OOOOF
Mace:
right?!
Lor:
"oh, I care"
Mace:
he’ll feel guilty about it always of course
Lor:
of course
Lor:
god Dean's green eyes
Mace:
right?! He looks SO GOOD in this episode
Lor:
YES
Lor:
man, I LOVE when he lays it all out for someone and then lowers his gun
Mace:
YEP
Mace:
oh FUCK YOU SAMUEL
Lor:
Samuel, you deserve everything you get, you putz
Lor:
is bobby the ONLY father figure who ever tells Dean he's proud of him or similar when he's NOT possessed by a demon?
Mace:
omg right?!
Mace:
Dean is SUS
Lor:
YES
Lor:
aaaaaand now he gets to be assaulted by his grandfather. this boy needs so much therapy
Mace:
oooh Angry Dean Thrown Against a Wall
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
YES
Lor:
the way this is almost sexual
Mace:
yeah it’s...weird
Lor:
it is SO CREEPY
Mace:
SO. CREEPY.
Lor:
god Dean's ANGER
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
Jensen kills this
Mace:
he does
Mace:
oh Mary, you dummy
Lor:
right?
Lor:
also, why does she not remember?
Mace:
RIGHT?!?!
Lor:
the Dean stuff gets wiped, but she should remember the demon deal?
Lor:
you don't just forget that?
Mace:
correct
Lor:
O.M.G. the way Cas and Dean look at each other there
Mace:
the look on Dean’s face
Mace:
YES
Lor:
YES
Lor:
"destiny can't be changed, Dean"
Lor:
they way this becomes the theme of the whole SHOW
Lor:
I love it
Mace:
then why say “you have to stop it” Cas?!
Mace:
YES
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
so he would try, I guess?
Mace:
oh wait it was a reference to Sam I guess
Lor:
I guess
Mace:
but it’s still bad writing
Lor:
I feel like sometimes Cas wakes Dean up in the night now to apologize for doing this to him
Mace:
AW
Lor:
i mean, it's so CRUEL. it definitely plagues Cas
Lor:
yeah, it feels like the writing there is supposed to make you go "oh! i see" and instead you just go "eh?"
Mace:
yep. I think we’re supposed to think it’s clever in hindsight, but instead it’s just slipshod and clumbsy
Mace:
wow, that b does not belong in there
Lor:
LOL
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Rewatching What Is and What Should Never Be
Welcome to “Dean Dreams of Jeannie and Mowing and Dead Moms, Oh My!: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
Up today, s2,e20: What Is and What Should Never Be
Dean is driving around alone while Sammy is researching lore on djinns. Sammy has Dean scoping out an area where he thinks the djinn might be hiding and taking victims. When Dean enters an abandoned warehouse, he’s attacked by a djinn and then wakes up in an apartment in Lawrence next to a beautiful woman named Carmen. The boys’ mom is alive, their dad died recently in his sleep, Sam is in law school, and Dean is a mechanic dating Carmen, a respectable nurse. But Sam and Dean are practically estranged, and since none of the Winchesters have ever been hunting things and saving people, a whole lot of people are dead who should have lived. It’s Dean’s version of a lovely life, conjured for him by the djinn, and he has to fight his desire for a normal life to get out of it.
Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
[and we begin:]
Mace:
chicks DO dig the danger vibe
Lor:
YES WE DO
Lor:
omg Dean and his TV habits. 60s SITCOMS. I love him
Mace:
YAS
he dreams of Jeannie
Lor:
YEAH HE DOES
I had a brief crush on the dude on that show as a kid
Mace:
HAHAHAHA awesome
I always wanted to BE her
i loved her little lamp pad
Lor:
ooo NICE
i had a crush on Samantha from Bewitched though
the horror movie on TV
THE NECKLACE AND NO SHIRT
Mace:
NICE
YES and YAAASSS
Lor:
and it's not the samulet. because of course it isn't
Mace:
omg Sam’s little smile on the phone
of course it isn't
Lor:
YES
and the closing the law book when he was doing lore research before
Mace:
YES
Lor:
the kind of grimace in the kill
*kiss. omg
Mace:
HAHAHA OMG
Lor:
oh Dean. this bit kills me
AND THE HORN
Mace:
yeah
Lor:
"I don't know" and his voice
Mace:
I wonder, do other djinn victims fight the illusion like this/are they aware something’s not right, or is it just Dean
Lor:
oooo interesting question
Mace:
ANGEL(s) ARE WATCHING OVER YOU, DEAN
Lor:
YEAH THEY ARE
Mace:
“you’re beautiful” DEAD
DEAN WINCHESTER, YOU NUGGET
Lor:
YES
he's such a sweetheart
Mace:
YES
Lor:
her "excuse me"
Mace:
yeah
Lor:
omg my little touch-starved muffin
Mace:
RIGHT?!
Lor:
"no no I don't think they can really do it"
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
he should be more excited
Mace:
i think he’s...concerned
Lor:
well, fair
"everybody keeps asking me that but uh... no"
Mace:
YES
Lor:
pets him
Mace:
“we’re civilians"
Lor:
YES
Dean, honey, I'm gonna need you to pay more attention to things in the road, just generally
Mace:
snork
Mace:
omg his delight at mowing the lawn
Lor:
the look she gives him "what is with this one?"
YES
and the music!
and he's bad at it
I love it
Mace:
that this is part of his perfect world is so flipping SAD
Lor:
YES
Mace:
his wants are so simple yet so unattainable
Lor:
YES
he just wants to have a cold beer on the step after mowing the lawn
Mace:
YES
Lor:
he is SO HAPPY for everyone else
Mace:
YES
“I’ve just got low standards” HAHAHA
she’s saucy
Lor:
YES
oh Dean. your self-esteem, hon. maybe an angel could come along and tell you how awesome you are
Mace:
I need to know how much of this is the djinn and how much of it is the force of Dean’s will and his self-doubt skewing the illusion the djinn is trying to give him
Lor:
YES
"so... respectable"
Mace:
YES
Lor:
I wanna know what the necklace IS
Mace:
oooh yeah
Lor:
"why's it my job to save these people? why do I have to be some kind of hero?"
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
god the silent crying
Mace:
he’s Odysseus and Aeneas wrapped up in a SNACK BOX
YES
Lor:
HAAAAAHAHAHA snack box omg
Mace:
takes a bow
Lor:
wow that bit is an echo from the pilot when Dean first comes into Sam's apartment. I don't think I ever realized that before
"Sam, I'm sorry."
gaaaaaah
Mace:
yep and YEP
Lor:
"you're supposed to say jerk" ooof
Mace:
“what are you calling me a bitch for?"
HAHAHAHA
YES
Lor:
YES
I love how casual he is about taking the phone and throwing it out the window
Mace:
“oh, that’s hilarious"
YES
Lor:
"we're not in Kansas anymore" DEAN I LUFF YOU
Mace:
YES
have we talked about the theory that you can’t go more than a week without hearing or seeing a reference to the wizard of oz?
Lor:
what NO?!
Mace:
this guy I went to grad school with posed the theory and it’s true. or at least it was 20 years ago
Lor:
iiiiinteresting
now I have to keep notes, of course
Mace:
we used to shout out “REFERENCE” every time we saw or heard one, which generally was more than once a week
Lor:
NICE
Mace:
I super love this version of the djinn
Lor:
YES
he is cool and CREEEPY
Mace:
YES
and a creative interpretation of the myths
Lor:
"this is real? you're not crazy?"
YES
Mace:
this is where I go a bit cross-eyed, though: HOW is he here and in the illusion at the same time?!
or does that gets explained and I just don’t remember
Lor:
I don't get how this works though. how can he be DREAMING and also be where this is actually happening? or is he slightly waking up and seeing her and then working it into the dream?
Lor:
HAAAAHAHAHA OMG MACE
Mace:
HAHAHAHAH OMG LOR
HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
Lor:
lololololololol
oh look, Dean's explaining it to us
Mace:
HA
Lor:
"like 90% sure"
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
"it's still better than anything you had"
gaaaaah
AND he still mostly gives the good things to other people
Mace:
YES
Lor:
"get some rest"
does a little jig and sings a little song that goes "fuck 327"
Mace:
YAAASSS
REFERENCE!
Lor:
Iiiiii might REALLY like it when he's sick-looking
YAS
Mace:
HAHAHA YES
Lor:
ouch, Sammy, your head DANG
Mace:
always with the head
Lor:
yeah
Sam gets hit in the head, Dean gets sexually assaulted
there is SUCH a paper in there somewhere
Mace:
YES
Lor:
oooof Carmen is a beer ad
oh Dean
Sam is wearing that shirt I love
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
"yeah lucky me"
Mace:
OOOF
Lor:
"I wanted to stay. I wanted to stay so bad" gaaaaaah
Mace:
AAAAAAAAAA
Lor:
"it's worth it" and then the look on Dean's faaaaaaaace
Mace:
YEEEESSS
Lor:
sigh one of my favs, that one
Mace:
it’s really good
#watchingspnagain#watchingspnagain 2x20#spn#supernatural#spn meta#spn spoilers#spn 2x20#watchingspnagain dean and assault#watchingspnagain djinn#watchingspnagain mary#watchingspnagain normalcy#watchingspnagain sam and assault#watchingspnagain who's story?
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Rewatching Houses of the Holy
Welcome to “tHAt’S mIcHAel, rIGhT?: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
Up today, s2e13: Houses of the Holy
The boys decide to check out a murder in which the murderer is convinced that an angel told her to do it, and as they're looking into that one, another murder happens with the same story from the perp. Turns out the victims were both sleazeballs and also regularly attended the same church. Dean's 100% skeptical, insisting it's a spirit and not an angel because of course angels don't exist since neither of them nor John have ever seen one. He's shocked and troubled, then, when he discovers that his little brother Sammy does, in fact, believe in angels. It turns out nobody here's been touched by an angel (yet - WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU, DEAN WINCHESTER); instead it's the vengeful spirit of a priest who was shot just outside the church and who is convinced he is an angel. By the end of the episode, Sam and Dean are both wavering in their respective convictions, and both give very good sad face puppy eyes.
Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
[and we begin:]
Mace:
Oooooh, is this the one where Sammy gets religion, sort of?
Lor:
YES
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
and Dean is like "come on, Sam, there's clearly no angels and god and shit"
Mace:
sweet sweet innocent Dean not believing in those angels
Lor:
ACCIDENTALLY AMAZING
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
YES
Mace:
YAAASSS
Mace:
SAAAAMMMM
Lor:
nrrrrggg SAMMEH
Mace:
DED
Lor:
those SCRUBS
Mace:
can’t answer on account of being ded on floor
Lor:
lolololol
shall I poke you with a stick?
Mace:
rude.
Lor:
lolololol
Mace:
rude but appropriate since poking is just what a certain angel will want to be doing to Dean later
Lor:
SNORK
Lor:
"and the word was... to kill someone?" oh Sammy. just WAIT
Mace:
HAHAHAHA YES! unknowing BABIES
Lor:
lol
OMG DEAN
Mace:
YAS
“It’s kinda making me uncomfortable"
Lor:
SNORK
"my last quarter"
Mace:
oh DEAN
Lor:
how do you think you're gonna do your laundry now, child?
"there's no such thing as unicorns?" SAAMMMMY
Lor:
"and you've got angels on the bullcrap list?"
Mace:
YAAASS
Mace:
oh Dean, one of those angels watches you, honey
Lor:
YES
poor Cas. he's just TWITCHING in heaven
Mace:
can you imagine the scowl he’s making in heaven right now?
HAHAHAHA OMG LOR
Lor:
MACE OMG
Mace:
i love us so very much
Lor:
YES
"Sam, I found it" DEAN WINCHESTER
Mace:
SUCH SNARK
Lor:
I think he protests too much
like maybe he might like it to be true
Mace:
YUP
Mace:
that’s called hubris, Dean, and nemesis in the form of a hot angel is coming for you
Lor:
YAAAS
Mace:
or scared that it is true and he’s not worthy
Lor:
ope YEP that's it
Mace:
takes a bow
Lor:
curtsies like a dope
Mace:
HAHAHA I LOVE IT
ewewew to the fingernail
Lor:
RIGHT?
the look they share
Mace:
YES
who stands there like a dummy and doesn’t get under a door frame?
Lor:
LOLOLOLOL
practice better angel earthquake hygiene, dude!
Mace:
HAHAHA hygiene!!
Lor:
takes a bow
Mace:
not his forte, I think
Lor:
noo, I suspect not
Mace:
but he’s polite, at least. introduces himself before he gets stabby
Lor:
HA
Mace:
“did you bring quarters?"
DEAN WINCHESTER
Lor:
poor Dean. has to listen to the police scanner rather than getting to hedonist
aww, Sammy, don't be so mean
Mace:
“what are you talking about I eat"
Mace:
HAHAHAHA
Lor:
YES
Mace:
YES
Lor:
I was just thinking that
he loves to eat
Mace:
HE DOES
Lor:
"awww, I don't want to hear this"
Mace:
YES
Lor:
"I guess if you're going to stab someone, good timing"
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
ooooo this is the bit where Sam says "isn't that Michael" and is effectively pointing at Dean
Mace:
OOOO YES
Mace:
THERE IT IS
so so cool
Lor:
YAAAAS
ACCIDENTALLY AMAZING
Mace:
YES
Mace:
more loving than wrathful - that’s…not right
Lor:
HA! it sure is not
Lor:
except for Cas... mostly
Mace:
Cas turns good because of Dean
Lor:
YESYESYES
Lor:
ooo, that's interesting. Dean seems not to know the scripture but MUCH later he knows the Bible well and says he reads it. WHAT might happen to make him take an interest?
Mace:
HAHAHAHA
Mace:
well, he did run out of quarters...
Lor:
HAAAAAHAHAHAHA
Mace:
Dean is uncomfortable with Sammy having faith and that needs sussing out on so many levels
Lor:
don't throw stones, Dean. praying will be very useful to you
Mace:
YES
Lor:
YES
Lor:
the way he GRIPS him
Mace:
So all the people who have been ‘chosen’ so far have been fringe - outsiders...
Mace:
YES
Lor:
YES
Lor:
“glow sticks and a Dr Suess hat” omg
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
well THAT'S uncomfortable, Sammy. there are no thought crimes
Mace:
yeah this is awkward
Lor:
oh Dean
she wasn't wrong, Dean
Mace:
angry little sad muffin
Lor:
she didn't say they was watching over HER
Lor:
YES
Mace:
YES
Lor:
oh, there will be hard proof
Lor:
...sorrynotsorry
Mace:
SNORK!!
Lor:
"hope Whoopi's available"
Mace:
HAHAHA
Mace:
SPONGEBOB SIDE DOWN
Lor:
“put it Spongebob side down”
Lor:
OMG I LUFF HIM
Mace:
YES
Mace:
tricky, Dean
Lor:
YES
Lor:
so COMPETENT
Mace:
nnnnggg YES
Lor:
there's snow on the ground
so unusual
Mace:
yeah I was just thinking about that
Lor:
but of course
Mace:
OF COURSE
Mace:
LALALALA not listening to Sammy’s Latin
Lor:
haaaaaahahahahahaha
Lor:
omg Sam's face
Mace:
YES
Lor:
"actually maybe I can't"
Lor:
I LUFF HIM TOO
Mace:
snork
YAS
Lor:
"it's based on early Christian rights, if that helps any?"
Mace:
oh Sammy’s face when he realizes it’s not an angel
poor kitten
Lor:
"it's just Father Gregory" he's so SAD
Mace:
Dean, bud, you’re not being very stealthy with the following
Lor:
LOL
what, you think someone would notice a GIANT black car from forty years before that growls?
Mace:
SNORK!
Mace:
SLIDING ACROSS THE HOOD TO CHECK ON HER
AM DED
Lor:
YES
thinking to reach in and hit the button so her door would unlock AND asking not just if she's okay but if she has a cell phone
Mace:
YESYESYES
Lor:
poor Thomas
Mace:
Sammy’s puppy eyes
I CANNOT
Lor:
YES
Mace:
yeah, poor Thomas BUT SAMMY
SO CUTE
Lor:
lol
aw man, pick someone else. Raphael's a jerk
Mace:
they’re all a-holes (except that one)
Lor:
lol
Mace:
(you know, that Cas one)
(he’s pretty okay)
Lor:
Gabe is... okayish? eventually?
(lol yeah, he's okay. he can stay)
Mace:
(in fact, you could say he’s okeydokey)
Lor:
(haaaahahahahaha)
Mace:
Gabe is awesome but also a huge a-hole
Lor:
mmm. fair
mrrrrrg Baby
poor Dean. he's shook
Mace:
HE IS
the decor in this room is…CLASSY
Lor:
HA
oh Sam
Mace:
both of them are shook and for opposite reasons I LOVE IT
Lor:
YESYESYES
"I'm watching out for you"
I CANNOT
Mace:
he’s just one person but he’s also DEAN WINCHESTER and I think that counts as a bit more than just one person
Lor:
AGREED
Mace:
I’d be okay with him watching out for me
Lor:
YES
"maybe... God's will"
Mace:
Cas. You can call it Cas, Dean. IT WAS CAS
Lor:
oooof the two of them
Lor:
OOOOOOOO
Lor:
I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT
Lor:
I LOVE THAT
Mace:
takes another bow
Lor:
curtsies even more dopily
Mace:
That whole “it’s god’s will” bit is so…OOOOF
Lor:
yeah
Mace:
he will look back one day and CRINGE at that
Lor:
YEP
#watchingspnagain#watchingspnagain 2x13#spn#supernatural#spn meta#spn spoilers#spn 2x13#watchingspnagain angels#watchingspnagain mary#watchingspnagain outsiders
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Rewatching Children Shouldn’t Play with Dead Things
Welcome to “Accidentally Amazing: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
Up today, s2e4: Children Shouldn’t Play with Dead Things.
Sammy wants to visit their mom’s grave, and Dean is not about it. He grumpily tags along, but he comes up with a mystery in the graveyard. Convenient—avoid those feelings! Sam thinks that’s *exactly* what Dean is doing, and it takes a bit for him to get on board. But weirdly recurring dead plants, sightings of someone who should be dead, and strangely connected deaths eventually convince him. The boys discover some pretty skeezy necromancy nonsense from a college boy resurrecting the girl he loved and along the way meet a humanities professor who must have made a demon deal for that office and yell at each other about their feelings some. In the end, as they are leaving town, Dean pulls Baby off the side of the road, and the boys perch on her hood while Dean tearfully confesses to Sam that he’s sure John sacrificed himself so Dean could live and that he can’t bear it.
Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
[and we begin:]
Mace:
"I'm dealing with dad's death!" and then cut to him power sawing a dude's head off
Lor:
ooof YEP
so your laugh for today: I picked up the remote and turned on the TV and then I set it down somewhere and COULD NOT FIND IT. just me, spinning around in the living room doing a head tilt like "I JUST HAD IT"
Mace:
HAHAHA if it was actually in your hand, then BEEN THERE
Lor:
LOLOL
I do that with my phone ALL THE TIME
Mace:
I once spent an entire conversation on the phone with my mom quietly...looking for my phone
HAHAHAHA OMG
Lor:
lololololololol
the remote was just... wait for it: on the arm of the couch
SO HARD TO SEE
Mace:
oh sure
Lor:
mmmm Baby rumble
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
WHO IS THIS UNCLE
Mace:
right?!
Lor:
WHY DID HE NOT CHECK ON HIS NEPHEWS
Mace:
exactly
you've never been awkward at small talk, Dean, like, ever
Lor:
these two honestly had the WORST male relatives
LOL
Mace:
YUP
Sammy, dude, bury that a little more maybe?
Lor:
lol
Mace:
Dean's v-neck and his rolled-up sleeves...
Lor:
YES
ope, feelings HANG ON A MYSTERY. whew. saved
Mace:
HAHAHAH YAS
Also? Dean would never have walked into a dead circle like that unwittingly
Lor:
NOPE
and what is that other necklace he's wearing?
Mace:
what other necklace?
Lor:
he had like a chain in that other scene
Mace:
oh wait i see it now
Lor:
oh you can JUST see it here
yeah
Mace:
if only we could just hook a finger underneath it and pull it out...
Lor:
IF ONLY
Mace:
(just kilt myself)
Lor:
(lololol)
Mace:
oh right, the "professor of Greek Studies" who has a ginormous office
Lor:
SNORK
Mace:
most unlikely thing that ever happens on this show, hands down
Lor:
YEP
Sammy's "come on, Dean" face
Mace:
vampires? sure. demons? okay. Lucifer as a hoot? no problem. a well-appointed Classics office? I draw the line.
Lor:
CORRECT
Mace:
YES to Sam's face
and I love his shirt
Lor:
for me it's when they draw blood by putting a needle not in a vein
Mace:
and his stupid messy hair
Lor:
YAS
Mace:
nope, still more possible than a well-budgeted humanities department
Lor:
hahahahahahah fair
Lor:
look, Sam, you aren't wrong, but also? a perfect circle of dead grass?
Mace:
Sammy's tendency toward counseling shining through here
HAHAHA YEP
Lor:
omg Sammy's soft voice when he says "Dean, where you going?"
Mace:
YES
OH. I just remembered what this ep is about. ick.
Lor:
yeeeah
Mace:
she's not also the woman who plays whatsherbucket, is she?
Lisa? Linda?
Lor:
Lisa? I don't think so but the resemblance is WILD
Mace:
"waiwaiwaiwait"
I love it when Dean does that
Lor:
YES
Lor:
aw, Alan Stanwyck, you're so cute
Mace:
RIGHT?!
"great."
HAHAHA
Lor:
the handing the tissue hahahahahaha
Mace:
YES
Sammy would be so much better at this
Lor:
lol he would
omg Dean's face. it's so DUMB I LOVE IT
Mace:
OMG LOR I WAS JUST THINKING THAT
Mace:
his stupid perfect lower lip
Lor:
LOLOL OMG YAS US
YES
the face he made at Sam when he came in
Mace:
YES
Lor:
this is why Sam interrupts him and Cas. payback
Mace:
HAAAAHAHAHAHA OMG
Lor:
Matt was the only douche fratboy dudebro in history with a bunch of plants in his apartment
Mace:
SNORK YES
Lor:
the things Dean quotes
Mace:
yeah
Lor:
omg these two
Mace:
I looked that one up recently and it's not whence I thought it would be
i was disappointed
Lor:
their brother banter. I luff
Mace:
YES
Lor:
is this the one we all think is Shakespeare and it's not?
that's probably fine
Mace:
yeah. I thought it was a reference to Medea and lots of people think it's Shakespeare but it's Congreve, I guess
Mace:
"what are these" NOT GREEK
Lor:
ah. well. Congreve. of course
LOLOLOLOLOL
Lor:
take a breath, Dean, honey
Mace:
oh DEAN
Lor:
"what's dead should stay dead" huh?
Mace:
two times over he thinks he doesn't deserve it
Lor:
YEP
Mace:
which time coming back from the dead does he kind of give this up? I mean I know never actually, but it stops being a main spoken theme at some point
Lor:
poor Prof Mason. does he ever find out what was going on with the poor guy who was having some kind of strange breakdown in his living room?
who is calmed by plants?
Mace:
HAHAHAHA yeah
Lor:
omg his swallowing
Mace:
YES and Sam's DIMPLE
Lor:
"I hear you. I’m being an ass. I'm sorry" I need some people to put that on a card and remember they can say it sometimes
Mace:
"our lives are weird, man"
Lor:
YES
Mace:
YES
Lor:
oo, good question back there
he certainly does not have that attitude by the time Mary comes back
Mace:
I mean mostly about himself yeah?
Lor:
mmm yeah
Lor:
"feed their hearts to wild dogs. that's my personal favorite"
Mace:
SNORK!
DUCKY LOVE OMG DEAN WINCHESTER
Lor:
lololol
Mace:
He loves Pretty in Pink
Lor:
is that… a Sixteen Candles ref
Mace:
I'm pretty sure it's PiP
Lor:
okay. whichever one is it, OMG DEAN
Mace:
(just looked, it's PiP)
AND YES
Lor:
there is no media he will not watch and I LOVE THAT
Mace:
YUP
"it takes two to..." HAHAHA
Lor:
it is such a cool little character thing and it makes sense given how much time he probably spent as a kid in a motel room with nothing to do but watch whatever was on the tv
lolol
Mace:
oh AGREED
and I suspect that it's unintentional - just funny clever references the writers slipped in - but yes it makes Dean that much more layered
Lor:
(Dean watches Hallmark Christmas movies. all December. definitely)
YEP
so much of the show is like that
accidentally amazing
Mace:
(ABSOLUTELY)
agreed.
"your girlfriend's past her expiration date"
Lor:
"past their expiration date"
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
YES
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
boy John sure fucked Dean up
Mace:
YUP
that's the show
Lor:
LOL
YES
“They fuck you up your mom and dad, they don't mean to but they do...”
course John didn't so much not mean to as just... not think about anything ever
Mace:
think Dean reads Larkin?
Lor:
absolutely
Mace:
prolly
Lor:
there's a second false button in Baby's trunk that not even Sam knows about and it's just all of Dean's books
Mace:
HAHAHAHA YES
Mace:
Every time they visit Bobby, Bobby manages somehow to sneak a new volume in there for Dean. Neither ever speak of it.
Lor:
OMG YES
Mace:
Ope, buhbye, Neal
Lor:
LOLOLOL
don't let your creepy necromancy hit you on the way out
Mace:
SNORK
Mace:
Warren (Buffy) is still WAAAY worse
Lor:
YEP
Mace:
the...bodily sounds in this ep are extra ew
Lor:
they really are
Mace:
omg the knee slide
Lor:
omg Dean's slide into the grave
Mace:
HAHAHA YAS
Lor:
YES
oh Dean, honey
Mace:
YUP
Mace:
"pretty sharp"
Lor:
YES
you weren't actually dead, baby. it's okay
Mace:
(not yet at least)
Lor:
(yeah)
Mace:
the way he looks away from Mary's grave and walks head half down to the car
GAH
Lor:
YES
the way this particular episode is bookended by Mary's grave is really interesting when you know that she’s gonna come back later
Mace:
oh YES great point!
Lor:
accidentally amazing
Mace:
HAHAHA YES
Lor:
omg DEEEEEAN
Mace:
YESYESYES
Lor:
there's his DUMB FACE again
Mace:
DO NOT CRY, DEAN DO NOT
I CANNOT TAKE IT
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
if Dean and Willow cried in front of me at the same time, I would in fact cease to exist
Mace:
CORRECT
Lor:
"you wanted to know how I was feeling. well, that's it. what could you possibly say to me to make that all right?"
Mace:
the way Sam looks at him, SO CONCERNED because this isn't NORMAL for Dean
Lor:
diiiiiiies
YES
Mace:
YES
Lor:
and the way he knows it from the MOMENT he pulls the car over
and it just gets worse and worse
holds them both
Mace:
YES
also: his way of paying respect to his mom is to work the case and Sam's is to talk to her
Lor:
YES
#watchingspnagain#watchingspnagain 2x04#spn#supernatural#spn meta#spn spoilers#spn 2x04#watchingspnagain death#watchingspnagain fraght#watchingspnagain mary#watchingspnagain winchester fine
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Rewatching Salvation
Welcome to “Truck Size Apparently Matters Too: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
Up today, s1e21: Salvation.
Sam, Dean, and John are hot on the trail of the Yellow-Eyed Demon and think they have a good lead on where he will strike next. But then Demon Meg issues an ultimatum: John comes alone with the Colt or lots of people start dying. So Sam and Dean take off for Yellow Eyes and John goes to deliver a fake Colt, knowing that it won't trick anyone but may buy the boys some time. Things...don't go well on either end, although Sam and Dean do have a nice brotherly moment in the car. And Dean holds a baby.
Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
[and we begin:]
Mace:
i love that they seem to think priests just hang out at the pulpit all day
Lor:
lolol
right?
also, isn't this pastor Jim? the trappings of this church do not look like he'd be a pastor
Mace:
yeah I don't remember
but the catholic church doesn't call their clergy pastors, I don't think?
Lor:
yeah
Mace:
poor guy, anyway
Lor:
he could be... Episcopalian? I thiiink? their churches would look like that? but I still don't think they'd be called pastors
Lor:
mmmm sammy's polo over a long sleeved t-shirt
Mace:
interesting. i have no idea what their nomenclature is like
YAS
Lor:
oh my boys
Mace:
yeah
Lor:
of course john is in front with his jacked up monster truck of penile fortitude
Mace:
YUP
"at Jim's place"? the church is his "place"? Weird
Lor:
yeah
weird
he makes "you got any better ideas" sound like "fuck you" and FUCK HIM
Mace:
YES
Lor:
does he HEAR himself?
Mace:
and then the little emotional display because he wanted the boys to know how 'sad' he is? UGH
Lor:
he dragged his poor babies all over everywhere and fucked them up and wouldn't answer their calls when they were DYING but “ooooh, Pastor Jim died. End it. no matter what it takes”
BLECK
Mace:
YUP
FUUUUCK YOU JOHN
omg the raised eyebrows when he sees the girl
Lor:
YES
Mace:
sweet little pumpkin of a hedonist
Lor:
YES
and just a hint of "ah. I have an in for getting info"
Mace:
yep
Lor:
how many shirts is he wearing?
three? under the jacket?
Mace:
SNORK!!
it's raining and he's chilly
Lor:
yeah
Lor:
maybe he needs some snuggles
Mace:
muffin needs layers
Lor:
LOL
Mace:
YES YES HE DOES
Mace:
�� Lor:
lololol
Mace:
Monica is adorable
Lor:
she IS
Mace:
CREEPY CLOWN MOBILE
NOPENOPENOPE
Lor:
WHO PUTS THAT IN THEIR KID'S ROOM
Mace:
RIGHT?!?!
honestly
Lor:
go OFF, Dean
Mace:
YES
Lor:
go off more than that, baby
"I'm not crazy about this new tone of yours" HE IS 27 YEARS OLD, JOHN
Mace:
RIGHT?! My god, just fuck right off you asshole
Lor:
interesting how much Dean is (literally) in the background in this episode
Mace:
yeah
Lor:
"it doesn't really matter"
Mace:
"so you think Meg is a demon?" HAHAHAHA that seems like such a silly question at this point
Lor:
LOL
"I want you to go to school. I want Dean to have a home" like the only time he ever thinks about them, right there
Mace:
yep
like, maybe you should have thought of that YEARS AGO, ASS
Lor:
RIGHT?
Mace:
you want those things for them, but only after YOU get what YOU want
that's not parenting
that's not putting your kids first
Lor:
and does he realize that HE is the reason his boys don't have those things? it's not the demon, it's HIM
Mace:
that's literally putting them second
Lor:
YES
the way Dean's voice cracks when he says "you're no good to us dead"
Mace:
ooof
Ugh, I hate that John's such a fox. It's annoying because I need to hate him completely.
Lor:
LOLOLOLOL RIGHT?
if he had a soul, he would (well, first, he wouldn't have done all this) but he would have wrapped Dean up in a crushing hug before he left
Mace:
EXACTLY
but NOOOOO, that's not manly
Lor:
nope
but that's what Dean wants. he wants his DAD. the dude who picked him up and asked him if they should throw the football around with Sammy
Mace:
yep
not to mention Sammy, who gets to sit back and watch this angsty tragedy play out and also doesn't get any love himself
Lor:
YEP
"naaaah" omg Dean's face
Mace:
don't you have to be an actual priest to bless water?
Lor:
a REALLY feel like you have to be a priest to do this
Lor:
HAHAHA
Mace:
HAAAHAHAHAHA
Mace:
#US
Lor:
YES
Mace:
when John does it, it just turns to jagweed water
Lor:
SNORK
Mace:
oh SAMMY
Lor:
YES
Mace:
Dean needs this right now and Sammy knows
Lor:
and the way Dean is completely taken aback by this
Mace:
YES
Lor:
oh Dean
Mace:
I don't like Meg but I do love her haircut
Lor:
lol YES
Mace:
how did John not realize that they'd of course test it
Mace:
numbnuts
Lor:
yeah
maybe he did though
I mean, i don't put it past him to go off on what he suspects is a suicide mission/trap and not even hug his kiddos first
little turd
Mace:
oh yeah, that's a fair point
omg Meg is such a bad actor: "HOLY. WATER. JOHN. REAL. CUTE."
Lor:
LOLOLOLOL
in a SHOCK, John doesn’t answer the phone
Mace:
SNORK!
such a twist to the story, that
Lor:
lol
Mace:
Dean with a baby in his arms is peak ovary asplosion
Lor:
YES
oh Dean. he's gonna need a hug after this rescue. AND NO ONE'S GONNA GIVE IT TO HIM
Mace:
do you volunteer, Katniss?
Lor:
I DO
Mace:
so many shocking twists today...
Lor:
SO many
Lor:
"i don't care! I DO!"
Mace:
YES
Lor:
everybody STOP trying to sacrifice themselves and leave Dean bereft
Mace:
yes, because DeanDean NEVER has that notion. EVER.
Lor:
NEVAH
Lor:
aaaand that's the complete turn around from the pilot
Mace:
YUP
how many times does Dean get slammed into a wall in this show? We should start a tally
Lor:
YES
"sometimes I feel like I’m barely holding it together, man" DEEEEEAN
Lor:
(sometimes, baby? all the time. I hear angels are good at helping with that)
Mace:
(YAS)
Mace:
[in reference to Dean saying that Mary is never coming back, which echoes Sam saying this in the pilot]:
(it also makes no sense either time. They are, in fact, never coming back. Why does that make the boys so angry?)
Lor:
yeah, I dunno
Lor:
maybe they read it as some kind of disrespect to their memory? the suggestion that it might not be worth it to get revenge?
Mace:
I suspect that yeah, that’s what they’re going for, but the writing is weird, then. Because it’s just a simple statement of fact with no hint that they don’t care that they’re gone. Just that nothing is going to bring them back. No hint of “it’s not worth it/their memory isn’t worth it” or whatever. I just think they could have written the dialogue better in both cases to make such violent reactions make some bit of sense
#watchingspnagain#watchingspnagain 1x21#spn#supernatural#spn meta#spn spoilers#spn 1x21#watchingspnagain john#watchingspnagain mary#watchingspnagain parenting#watchingspnagain religion#watchingspnagain sam's nightmares#watchingspnagain whose story?
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