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watchingspnagain · 2 years ago
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Rewatching In the Beginning
Welcome to “‘1.21 Gigawatts!’ ‘You are my density!’”: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
 Up today, s4e3: In the Beginning.
  Cas sends Dean back in time to meet his parents and his grandparents and to witness the moment when the Yellow-Eyed Demon sinks his claws into Mary.  Dean decides to try to kill YED so that he and Sam can have a normal childhood, but, of course, that doesn’t work out. We also find out that Cas likes watching Dean when he’s sleeping. But they’re just friends. Uh-huh.
 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
 [and we begin:]
   Lor:
ngggggg Cas
 Mace:
YAS
 Mace:
his LIPS
 Mace:
 I mean, honestly
 Lor:
YAAS
Lor:
tsk, Sammy, sneaking out while Dean is sleeping
 Mace:
oh Sammy, sneaking out
 Mace:
 HAHAHA
 Lor:
LOL
 Lor:
aw, Dean, get under the covers, baby
 Lor:
"Hello, Dean"
 Mace:
“hello, Dean”
 Mace:
 OMG
 Lor:
LOLOLOL
 Lor:
no Dean, he only likes to watch YOU sleep
 Mace:
YAS
 Mace:
 Marty McFly vibes
 Lor:
YES
 Lor:
the little nods are SO GOOD
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
oh look, young John takes care of strangers better than Dad!John will take care of his own kids
 Mace:
 YEP
 Lor:
I love that it takes Dean a minute
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
probably because based on the furniture in any house of anyone he's every liked, it still is the 70s
 Mace:
 omg yes, and all the motels
 Lor:
YES
 Lor:
I love the screaming angel wings title card
 Mace:
me too!
 Mace:
 we’ve moved into the seizure-inducing era of the openings
 Lor:
LOL yep
 Mace:
 Cas’s HAIR
 Lor:
"well bend it back!"
 Lor:
YAAAAAAS
 Mace:
 I would LOVE to have that van
 Lor:
YES
 Lor:
though I would take the Impala first
 Mace:
 of course
 Lor:
Dean Van Halen haaaahahahaha
 Mace:
DEAN VAN HALEN
 Mace:
 HAHAHA
 Lor:
LOL
 Lor:
"been any cattle mutilations in town lately?"
 Lor:
I love him
 Mace:
 SNORK
smooth, Dean
 Lor:
oh yes. super smooth, super subtle
 Mace:
 omg Dean in a mirthmobile I LOVE IT
 Lor:
YAAAAAS
 Lor:
I love Mary's shirt
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
"I'm going to hell. again."
 Mace:
“...again"
 Mace:
HAHAHA
 Mace:
 that’s hilarious because I was just thinking in the last scene, “Is John…attracted to Dean here?"
 Lor:
RIGHT?
 Mace:
 oh look, Dean’s now been abused by both parents
 Lor:
HA!
 Lor:
yep
 Lor:
"are you a hunter?" poor Dean. just upending his WHOLE life
 Mace:
 YEP
 Lor:
"we're practically family"
 Lor:
"clearly not enough"
 Mace:
 HA
 Lor:
"Samuel and... Deanna?"
 Lor:
HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 Mace:
 omg, I don’t think I caught that the first time around
 Lor:
I LOVE that Mary named her firstborn son after her MOTHER
 Lor:
I LOVE IT
 Mace:
 YAS
 Lor:
omg Dean's face
 Mace:
 HAHAHA YES
 Lor:
"the web of information you have assembled"
 Mace:
HAHAHA
 Mace:
 OMG FATHER!DEAN
 Lor:
OMG I forgot they both showed up separately in priest outfits!
 Mace:
 AM DED
 Lor:
"Father Chaney" haaaahahahaha
 Mace:
YAS
 Mace:
 he looks SO GOOD in that suit
 Lor:
RIGHT?!
 Mace:
 and I want Mary’s coat
 Lor:
YEP
 Lor:
dun dun DUN
 Mace:
 HAHAHAHA YEP
 Lor:
that is SO MUCH fruit salad for four people
 Mace:
HA
 Mace:
 “who, where, and when” “why?” HAHAHA
 Lor:
LOL
 Lor:
you do not, Dean
 Mace:
 YEP
 Lor:
"what's he like?" oh, Dean
 Mace:
 right?
 Lor:
oh DEAN
 Lor:
his FACE
 Mace:
yeah, Mary, outsiders can’t break in
 Mace:
 right?!
 Lor:
RIGHT?
 Lor:
him trying to make her not get killed in the future I CANNOT
 Lor:
OH DEAN
 Mace:
 oh DEAN
 Lor:
CAS APPEARING IN THE CAR
 Mace:
 YAS
 Lor:
"Sam is not looking for you" OOOOF
 Mace:
 right?!
 Lor:
"oh, I care"
 Mace:
 he’ll feel guilty about it always of course
 Lor:
of course
 Lor:
god Dean's green eyes
 Mace:
 right?! He looks SO GOOD in this episode
 Lor:
YES
 Lor:
man, I LOVE when he lays it all out for someone and then lowers his gun
 Mace:
YEP
 Mace:
 oh FUCK YOU SAMUEL
 Lor:
Samuel, you deserve everything you get, you putz
 Lor:
is bobby the ONLY father figure who ever tells Dean he's proud of him or similar when he's NOT possessed by a demon?
 Mace:
omg right?!
 Mace:
 Dean is SUS
 Lor:
YES
 Lor:
aaaaaand now he gets to be assaulted by his grandfather. this boy needs so much therapy
 Mace:
oooh Angry Dean Thrown Against a Wall
 Mace:
 HAHAHA
 Lor:
YES
 Lor:
the way this is almost sexual
 Mace:
 yeah it’s...weird
 Lor:
it is SO CREEPY
 Mace:
 SO. CREEPY.
 Lor:
god Dean's ANGER
 Mace:
 YAS
 Lor:
Jensen kills this
 Mace:
he does
 Mace:
 oh Mary, you dummy
 Lor:
right?
 Lor:
also, why does she not remember?
 Mace:
 RIGHT?!?!
 Lor:
the Dean stuff gets wiped, but she should remember the demon deal?
 Lor:
you don't just forget that?
 Mace:
 correct
 Lor:
O.M.G. the way Cas and Dean look at each other there
 Mace:
the look on Dean’s face
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
YES
 Lor:
"destiny can't be changed, Dean"
 Lor:
they way this becomes the theme of the whole SHOW
 Lor:
I love it
 Mace:
then why say “you have to stop it” Cas?!
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
RIGHT?
 Lor:
so he would try, I guess?
 Mace:
 oh wait it was a reference to Sam I guess
 Lor:
I guess
 Mace:
 but it’s still bad writing
 Lor:
I feel like sometimes Cas wakes Dean up in the night now to apologize for doing this to him
 Mace:
 AW
 Lor:
i mean, it's so CRUEL. it definitely plagues Cas
 Lor:
yeah, it feels like the writing there is supposed to make you go "oh! i see" and instead you just go "eh?"
 Mace:
yep. I think we’re supposed to think it’s clever in hindsight, but instead it’s just slipshod and clumbsy
 Mace:
 wow, that b does not belong in there
  Lor:
LOL
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watchingspnagain · 2 years ago
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Rewatching What Is and What Should Never Be
Welcome to “Dean Dreams of Jeannie and Mowing and Dead Moms, Oh My!: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
 Up today, s2,e20: What Is and What Should Never Be
 Dean is driving around alone while Sammy is researching lore on djinns. Sammy has Dean scoping out an area where he thinks the djinn might be hiding and taking victims. When Dean enters an abandoned warehouse, he’s attacked by a djinn and then wakes up in an apartment in Lawrence next to a beautiful woman named Carmen. The boys’ mom is alive, their dad died recently in his sleep, Sam is in law school, and Dean is a mechanic dating Carmen, a respectable nurse. But Sam and Dean are practically estranged, and since none of the Winchesters have ever been hunting things and saving people, a whole lot of people are dead who should have lived. It’s Dean’s version of a lovely life, conjured for him by the djinn, and he has to fight his desire for a normal life to get out of it.
 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
 [and we begin:]
 Mace:
 chicks DO dig the danger vibe
  Lor:
 YES WE DO
Lor:
omg Dean and his TV habits. 60s SITCOMS. I love him
  Mace:
 YAS
he dreams of Jeannie
  Lor:
 YEAH HE DOES
I had a brief crush on the dude on that show as a kid
  Mace:
 HAHAHAHA awesome
I always wanted to BE her
i loved her little lamp pad
  Lor:
 ooo NICE
i had a crush on Samantha from Bewitched though
 the horror movie on TV
 THE NECKLACE AND NO SHIRT
  Mace:
 NICE
 YES and YAAASSS
  Lor:
 and it's not the samulet. because of course it isn't
  Mace:
 omg Sam’s little smile on the phone
 of course it isn't
  Lor:
 YES
and the closing the law book when he was doing lore research before
  Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 the kind of grimace in the kill
*kiss. omg
  Mace:
 HAHAHA OMG
  Lor:
 oh Dean. this bit kills me
 AND THE HORN
  Mace:
 yeah
  Lor:
 "I don't know" and his voice
  Mace:
 I wonder, do other djinn victims fight the illusion like this/are they aware something’s not right, or is it just Dean
  Lor:
 oooo interesting question
  Mace:
 ANGEL(s) ARE WATCHING OVER YOU, DEAN
  Lor:
 YEAH THEY ARE
  Mace:
 “you’re beautiful” DEAD
DEAN WINCHESTER, YOU NUGGET
  Lor:
 YES
he's such a sweetheart
  Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 her "excuse me"
  Mace:
 yeah
  Lor:
 omg my little touch-starved muffin
  Mace:
 RIGHT?!
  Lor:
 "no no I don't think they can really do it"
  Mace:
 HAHAHA
  Lor:
 he should be more excited
  Mace:
 i think he’s...concerned
  Lor:
 well, fair
 "everybody keeps asking me that but uh... no"
  Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 pets him
  Mace:
 “we’re civilians"
  Lor:
 YES
 Dean, honey, I'm gonna need you to pay more attention to things in the road, just generally
  Mace:
 snork
  Mace:
 omg his delight at mowing the lawn
  Lor:
 the look she gives him "what is with this one?"
 YES
and the music!
and he's bad at it
I love it
  Mace:
 that this is part of his perfect world is so flipping SAD
  Lor:
 YES
  Mace:
 his wants are so simple yet so unattainable
  Lor:
 YES
he just wants to have a cold beer on the step after mowing the lawn
  Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 he is SO HAPPY for everyone else
  Mace:
 YES
 “I’ve just got low standards” HAHAHA
she’s saucy
  Lor:
 YES
 oh Dean. your self-esteem, hon. maybe an angel could come along and tell you how awesome you are
  Mace:
 I need to know how much of this is the djinn and how much of it is the force of Dean’s will and his self-doubt skewing the illusion the djinn is trying to give him
  Lor:
 YES
 "so... respectable"
  Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 I wanna know what the necklace IS
  Mace:
 oooh yeah
  Lor:
 "why's it my job to save these people? why do I have to be some kind of hero?"
  Mace:
 YAS
  Lor:
 god the silent crying
  Mace:
 he’s Odysseus and Aeneas wrapped up in a SNACK BOX
 YES
  Lor:
 HAAAAAHAHAHA snack box omg
  Mace:
 takes a bow
  Lor:
 wow that bit is an echo from the pilot when Dean first comes into Sam's apartment. I don't think I ever realized that before
 "Sam, I'm sorry."
gaaaaaah
  Mace:
 yep and YEP
  Lor:
 "you're supposed to say jerk" ooof
  Mace:
 “what are you calling me a bitch for?"
  HAHAHAHA
YES
  Lor:
 YES
 I love how casual he is about taking the phone and throwing it out the window
  Mace:
 “oh, that’s hilarious"
 YES
  Lor:
 "we're not in Kansas anymore" DEAN I LUFF YOU
  Mace:
 YES
have we talked about the theory that you can’t go more than a week without hearing or seeing a reference to the wizard of oz?
  Lor:
 what NO?!
  Mace:
 this guy I went to grad school with posed the theory and it’s true. or at least it was 20 years ago
  Lor:
 iiiiinteresting
now I have to keep notes, of course
  Mace:
 we used to shout out “REFERENCE” every time we saw or heard one, which generally was more than once a week
  Lor:
 NICE
  Mace:
 I super love this version of the djinn
  Lor:
YES
he is cool and CREEEPY
  Mace:
 YES
and a creative interpretation of the myths
  Lor:
 "this is real? you're not crazy?"
 YES
  Mace:
 this is where I go a bit cross-eyed, though: HOW is he here and in the illusion at the same time?!
or does that gets explained and I just don’t remember
  Lor:
 I don't get how this works though. how can he be DREAMING and also be where this is actually happening? or is he slightly waking up and seeing her and then working it into the dream?
  Lor:
 HAAAAHAHAHA OMG MACE
  Mace:
 HAHAHAHAH OMG LOR
HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
  Lor:
 lololololololol
 oh look, Dean's explaining it to us
  Mace:
 HA
  Lor:
 "like 90% sure"
  Mace:
 HAHAHA
  Lor:
 "it's still better than anything you had"
gaaaaah
AND he still mostly gives the good things to other people
  Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 "get some rest"
does a little jig and sings a little song that goes "fuck 327"
  Mace:
 YAAASSS
 REFERENCE!
  Lor:
 Iiiiii might REALLY like it when he's sick-looking
 YAS
  Mace:
 HAHAHA YES
  Lor:
 ouch, Sammy, your head DANG
  Mace:
 always with the head
  Lor:
 yeah
Sam gets hit in the head, Dean gets sexually assaulted
there is SUCH a paper in there somewhere
  Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 oooof Carmen is a beer ad
oh Dean
 Sam is wearing that shirt I love
  Mace:
 YAS
  Lor:
 "yeah lucky me"
  Mace:
 OOOF
  Lor:
 "I wanted to stay. I wanted to stay so bad" gaaaaaah
  Mace:
 AAAAAAAAAA
  Lor:
 "it's worth it" and then the look on Dean's faaaaaaaace
  Mace:
 YEEEESSS
  Lor:
sigh one of my favs, that one
  Mace:
 it’s really good
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watchingspnagain · 3 years ago
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Rewatching Houses of the Holy
Welcome to “tHAt’S mIcHAel, rIGhT?: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
 Up today, s2e13: Houses of the Holy
 The boys decide to check out a murder in which the murderer is convinced that an angel told her to do it, and as they're looking into that one, another murder happens with the same story from the perp. Turns out the victims were both sleazeballs and also regularly attended the same church. Dean's 100% skeptical, insisting it's a spirit and not an angel because of course angels don't exist since neither of them nor John have ever seen one. He's shocked and troubled, then, when he discovers that his little brother Sammy does, in fact, believe in angels. It turns out nobody here's been touched by an angel (yet - WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU, DEAN WINCHESTER); instead it's the vengeful spirit of a priest who was shot just outside the church and who is convinced he is an angel. By the end of the episode, Sam and Dean are both wavering in their respective convictions, and both give very good sad face puppy eyes.
 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
 [and we begin:]
 Mace:
Oooooh, is this the one where Sammy gets religion, sort of?
 Lor:
YES
Mace:
 YAS
 Lor:
and Dean is like "come on, Sam, there's clearly no angels and god and shit"
 Mace:
 sweet sweet innocent Dean not believing in those angels
 Lor:
ACCIDENTALLY AMAZING
 Mace:
 YAS
 Lor:
YES
 Mace:
YAAASSS
 Mace:
 SAAAAMMMM
 Lor:
nrrrrggg SAMMEH
 Mace:
 DED
 Lor:
those SCRUBS
 Mace:
 can’t answer on account of being ded on floor
 Lor:
lolololol
 shall I poke you with a stick?
 Mace:
 rude.
 Lor:
lolololol
  Mace:
 rude but appropriate since poking is just what a certain angel will want to be doing to Dean later
 Lor:
SNORK
 Lor:
"and the word was... to kill someone?" oh Sammy. just WAIT
 Mace:
 HAHAHAHA YES! unknowing BABIES
 Lor:
lol
 OMG DEAN
 Mace:
YAS
 “It’s kinda making me uncomfortable"
 Lor:
SNORK
 "my last quarter"
 Mace:
 oh DEAN
 Lor:
how do you think you're gonna do your laundry now, child?
 "there's no such thing as unicorns?" SAAMMMMY
 Lor:
"and you've got angels on the bullcrap list?"
 Mace:
 YAAASS
 Mace:
 oh Dean, one of those angels watches you, honey
 Lor:
YES
 poor Cas. he's just TWITCHING in heaven
 Mace:
can you imagine the scowl he’s making in heaven right now?
 HAHAHAHA OMG LOR
 Lor:
MACE OMG
 Mace:
 i love us so very much
 Lor:
YES
"Sam, I found it" DEAN WINCHESTER
 Mace:
 SUCH SNARK
 Lor:
I think he protests too much
like maybe he might like it to be true
 Mace:
YUP
 Mace:
that’s called hubris, Dean, and nemesis in the form of a hot angel is coming for you
 Lor:
 YAAAS
  Mace:
 or scared that it is true and he’s not worthy
 Lor:
ope YEP that's it
 Mace:
 takes a bow
 Lor:
curtsies like a dope
 Mace:
HAHAHA I LOVE IT
ewewew to the fingernail
 Lor:
RIGHT?
 the look they share
 Mace:
YES
 who stands there like a dummy and doesn’t get under a door frame?
 Lor:
LOLOLOLOL
 practice better angel earthquake hygiene, dude!
 Mace:
 HAHAHA hygiene!!
 Lor:
takes a bow
 Mace:
 not his forte, I think
 Lor:
noo, I suspect not
 Mace:
 but he’s polite, at least. introduces himself before he gets stabby
 Lor:
HA
 Mace:
“did you bring quarters?"
 DEAN WINCHESTER
 Lor:
poor Dean. has to listen to the police scanner rather than getting to hedonist
 aww, Sammy, don't be so mean
 Mace:
“what are you talking about I eat"
 Mace:
 HAHAHAHA
 Lor:
YES
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
I was just thinking that
he loves to eat
 Mace:
HE DOES
 Lor:
"awww, I don't want to hear this"
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
"I guess if you're going to stab someone, good timing"
 Mace:
 HAHAHA
 Lor:
ooooo this is the bit where Sam says "isn't that Michael" and is effectively pointing at Dean
 Mace:
OOOO YES
 Mace:
THERE IT IS
 so so cool
 Lor:
YAAAAS
 ACCIDENTALLY AMAZING
 Mace:
 YES
  Mace:
more loving than wrathful - that’s…not right
 Lor:
HA! it sure is not
 Lor:
except for Cas... mostly
  Mace:
 Cas turns good because of Dean
 Lor:
YESYESYES
  Lor:
ooo, that's interesting. Dean seems not to know the scripture but MUCH later he knows the Bible well and says he reads it. WHAT might happen to make him take an interest?
 Mace:
HAHAHAHA
 Mace:
 well, he did run out of quarters...
 Lor:
HAAAAAHAHAHAHA
  Mace:
 Dean is uncomfortable with Sammy having faith and that needs sussing out on so many levels
 Lor:
don't throw stones, Dean. praying will be very useful to you
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
YES
 Lor:
the way he GRIPS him
 Mace:
So all the people who have been ‘chosen’ so far have been fringe - outsiders...
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
YES
 Lor:
“glow sticks and a Dr Suess hat” omg
 Mace:
 HAHAHA
 Lor:
well THAT'S uncomfortable, Sammy. there are no thought crimes
 Mace:
 yeah this is awkward
 Lor:
oh Dean
she wasn't wrong, Dean
 Mace:
 angry little sad muffin
 Lor:
she didn't say they was watching over HER
 Lor:
YES
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
oh, there will be hard proof
 Lor:
...sorrynotsorry
 Mace:
 SNORK!!
 Lor:
"hope Whoopi's available"
 Mace:
HAHAHA
 Mace:
 SPONGEBOB SIDE DOWN
 Lor:
“put it Spongebob side down”
 Lor:
OMG I LUFF HIM
 Mace:
YES
 Mace:
 tricky, Dean
 Lor:
YES
 Lor:
so COMPETENT
 Mace:
 nnnnggg YES
 Lor:
there's snow on the ground
 so unusual
 Mace:
 yeah I was just thinking about that
 Lor:
but of course
 Mace:
OF COURSE
 Mace:
 LALALALA not listening to Sammy’s Latin
 Lor:
haaaaaahahahahahaha
 Lor:
omg Sam's face
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
"actually maybe I can't"
 Lor:
I LUFF HIM TOO
 Mace:
snork
 YAS
 Lor:
"it's based on early Christian rights, if that helps any?"
 Mace:
oh Sammy’s face when he realizes it’s not an angel
 poor kitten
 Lor:
"it's just Father Gregory" he's so SAD
 Mace:
 Dean, bud, you’re not being very stealthy with the following
 Lor:
LOL
 what, you think someone would notice a GIANT black car from forty years before that growls?
 Mace:
SNORK!
 Mace:
SLIDING ACROSS THE HOOD TO CHECK ON HER
 AM DED
 Lor:
YES
thinking to reach in and hit the button so her door would unlock AND asking not just if she's okay but if she has a cell phone
 Mace:
 YESYESYES
 Lor:
poor Thomas
 Mace:
Sammy’s puppy eyes
 I CANNOT
 Lor:
YES
 Mace:
yeah, poor Thomas BUT SAMMY
 SO CUTE
 Lor:
lol
 aw man, pick someone else. Raphael's a jerk
 Mace:
 they’re all a-holes (except that one)
 Lor:
lol
 Mace:
(you know, that Cas one)
 (he’s pretty okay)
 Lor:
Gabe is... okayish? eventually?
 (lol yeah, he's okay. he can stay)
 Mace:
 (in fact, you could say he’s okeydokey)
 Lor:
(haaaahahahahaha)
 Mace:
 Gabe is awesome but also a huge a-hole
 Lor:
mmm. fair
 mrrrrrg Baby
 poor Dean. he's shook
 Mace:
HE IS
 the decor in this room is…CLASSY
 Lor:
HA
 oh Sam
 Mace:
 both of them are shook and for opposite reasons I LOVE IT
 Lor:
YESYESYES
 "I'm watching out for you"
 I CANNOT
 Mace:
 he’s just one person but he’s also DEAN WINCHESTER and I think that counts as a bit more than just one person
 Lor:
AGREED
 Mace:
 I’d be okay with him watching out for me
 Lor:
YES
 "maybe... God's will"
 Mace:
 Cas. You can call it Cas, Dean. IT WAS CAS
 Lor:
oooof the two of them
 Lor:
OOOOOOOO
 Lor:
I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT
 Lor:
I LOVE THAT
 Mace:
takes another bow
 Lor:
curtsies even more dopily
 Mace:
 That whole “it’s god’s will” bit is so…OOOOF
 Lor:
yeah
 Mace:
 he will look back one day and CRINGE at that
 Lor:
YEP
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Rewatching Children Shouldn’t Play with Dead Things
Welcome to “Accidentally Amazing: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
 Up today, s2e4: Children Shouldn’t Play with Dead Things.
  Sammy wants to visit their mom’s grave, and Dean is not about it. He grumpily tags along, but he comes up with a mystery in the graveyard. Convenient—avoid those feelings! Sam thinks that’s *exactly* what Dean is doing, and it takes a bit for him to get on board. But weirdly recurring dead plants, sightings of someone who should be dead, and strangely connected deaths eventually convince him. The boys discover some pretty skeezy necromancy nonsense from a college boy resurrecting the girl he loved and along the way meet a humanities professor who must have made a demon deal for that office and yell at each other about their feelings some. In the end, as they are leaving town, Dean pulls Baby off the side of the road, and the boys perch on her hood while Dean tearfully confesses to Sam that he’s sure John sacrificed himself so Dean could live and that he can’t bear it.
 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
 [and we begin:]
  Mace:
 "I'm dealing with dad's death!" and then cut to him power sawing a dude's head off
  Lor:
 ooof YEP
so your laugh for today: I picked up the remote and turned on the TV and then I set it down somewhere and COULD NOT FIND IT. just me, spinning around in the living room doing a head tilt like "I JUST HAD IT"
 Mace:
 HAHAHA if it was actually in your hand, then BEEN THERE
  Lor:
 LOLOL
I do that with my phone ALL THE TIME
 Mace:
 I once spent an entire conversation on the phone with my mom quietly...looking for my phone
 HAHAHAHA OMG
  Lor:
 lololololololol
 the remote was just... wait for it: on the arm of the couch
SO HARD TO SEE
 Mace:
 oh sure 
  Lor:
 mmmm Baby rumble
 Mace:
 YAS
  Lor:
 WHO IS THIS UNCLE
 Mace:
 right?!
  Lor:
 WHY DID HE NOT CHECK ON HIS NEPHEWS
 Mace:
 exactly
 you've never been awkward at small talk, Dean, like, ever
  Lor:
 these two honestly had the WORST male relatives
 LOL
 Mace:
 YUP
 Sammy, dude, bury that a little more maybe?
  Lor:
 lol
 Mace:
 Dean's v-neck and his rolled-up sleeves...
  Lor:
 YES
 ope, feelings HANG ON A MYSTERY. whew. saved
 Mace:
 HAHAHAH YAS
 Also? Dean would never have walked into a dead circle like that unwittingly
  Lor:
 NOPE
 and what is that other necklace he's wearing?
 Mace:
 what other necklace?
  Lor:
 he had like a chain in that other scene
 Mace:
 oh wait i see it now
  Lor:
 oh you can JUST see it here
yeah
 Mace:
 if only we could just hook a finger underneath it and pull it out...
  Lor:
 IF ONLY
 Mace:
 (just kilt myself)
  Lor:
 (lololol)
 Mace:
 oh right, the "professor of Greek Studies" who has a ginormous office
  Lor:
 SNORK
 Mace:
 most unlikely thing that ever happens on this show, hands down
  Lor:
 YEP
 Sammy's "come on, Dean" face
 Mace:
 vampires? sure. demons? okay. Lucifer as a hoot? no problem. a well-appointed Classics office? I draw the line.
  Lor:
 CORRECT
 Mace:
 YES to Sam's face
and I love his shirt
  Lor:
 for me it's when they draw blood by putting a needle not in a vein
 Mace:
 and his stupid messy hair
  Lor:
 YAS
 Mace:
 nope, still more possible than a well-budgeted humanities department
  Lor:
 hahahahahahah fair
  Lor:
 look, Sam, you aren't wrong, but also? a perfect circle of dead grass?
 Mace:
 Sammy's tendency toward counseling shining through here
 HAHAHA YEP
  Lor:
 omg Sammy's soft voice when he says "Dean, where you going?"
 Mace:
 YES
 OH. I just remembered what this ep is about. ick.
  Lor:
 yeeeah
 Mace:
 she's not also the woman who plays whatsherbucket, is she?
Lisa? Linda?
  Lor:
 Lisa? I don't think so but the resemblance is WILD
 Mace:
 "waiwaiwaiwait"
I love it when Dean does that
  Lor:
 YES
  Lor:
 aw, Alan Stanwyck, you're so cute
 Mace:
 RIGHT?!
 "great."
HAHAHA
  Lor:
 the handing the tissue hahahahahaha
 Mace:
 YES
Sammy would be so much better at this
 Lor:
 lol he would
omg Dean's face. it's so DUMB I LOVE IT
 Mace:
OMG LOR I WAS JUST THINKING THAT
 Mace:
 his stupid perfect lower lip
  Lor:
 LOLOL OMG YAS US
 YES
 the face he made at Sam when he came in
 Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 this is why Sam interrupts him and Cas. payback
 Mace:
 HAAAAHAHAHAHA OMG
  Lor:
 Matt was the only douche fratboy dudebro in history with a bunch of plants in his apartment
 Mace:
 SNORK YES
  Lor:
 the things Dean quotes
 Mace:
 yeah
  Lor:
 omg these two
 Mace:
 I looked that one up recently and it's not whence I thought it would be
i was disappointed
  Lor:
 their brother banter. I luff
 Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 is this the one we all think is Shakespeare and it's not?
 that's probably fine
 Mace:
 yeah. I thought it was a reference to Medea and lots of people think it's Shakespeare but it's Congreve, I guess
 Mace:
 "what are these" NOT GREEK
  Lor:
 ah. well. Congreve. of course
 LOLOLOLOLOL
  Lor:
 take a breath, Dean, honey
 Mace:
 oh DEAN
  Lor:
 "what's dead should stay dead" huh?
 Mace:
 two times over he thinks he doesn't deserve it
  Lor:
 YEP
 Mace:
 which time coming back from the dead does he kind of give this up? I mean I know never actually, but it stops being a main spoken theme at some point
  Lor:
 poor Prof Mason. does he ever find out what was going on with the poor guy who was having some kind of strange breakdown in his living room?
who is calmed by plants?
 Mace:
 HAHAHAHA yeah
  Lor:
 omg his swallowing
 Mace:
 YES and Sam's DIMPLE
  Lor:
 "I hear you. I’m being an ass. I'm sorry" I need some people to put that on a card and remember they can say it sometimes
 Mace:
 "our lives are weird, man"
  Lor:
 YES
 Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 oo, good question back there
he certainly does not have that attitude by the time Mary comes back
 Mace:
 I mean mostly about himself yeah?
  Lor:
 mmm yeah
  Lor:
 "feed their hearts to wild dogs. that's my personal favorite"
 Mace:
 SNORK!
 DUCKY LOVE OMG DEAN WINCHESTER
  Lor:
 lololol
 Mace:
 He loves Pretty in Pink
  Lor:
 is that… a Sixteen Candles ref
 Mace:
 I'm pretty sure it's PiP
  Lor:
 okay. whichever one is it, OMG DEAN
 Mace:
 (just looked, it's PiP)
 AND YES
  Lor:
 there is no media he will not watch and I LOVE THAT
 Mace:
 YUP
 "it takes two to..." HAHAHA
  Lor:
 it is such a cool little character thing and it makes sense given how much time he probably spent as a kid in a motel room with nothing to do but watch whatever was on the tv
 lolol
 Mace:
 oh AGREED
and I suspect that it's unintentional - just funny clever references the writers slipped in - but yes it makes Dean that much more layered
  Lor:
 (Dean watches Hallmark Christmas movies. all December. definitely)
 YEP
so much of the show is like that
accidentally amazing
 Mace:
 (ABSOLUTELY)
 agreed.
 "your girlfriend's past her expiration date"
  Lor:
 "past their expiration date"
 Mace:
 HAHAHA
  Lor:
 YES
 Mace:
 HAHAHA
  Lor:
 boy John sure fucked Dean up
 Mace:
 YUP
that's the show
  Lor:
 LOL
YES
“They fuck you up your mom and dad, they don't mean to but they do...”
course John didn't so much not mean to as just... not think about anything ever
 Mace:
 think Dean reads Larkin?
  Lor:
 absolutely
 Mace:
 prolly
  Lor:
 there's a second false button in Baby's trunk that not even Sam knows about and it's just all of Dean's books
 Mace:
HAHAHAHA YES
 Mace:
 Every time they visit Bobby, Bobby manages somehow to sneak a new volume in there for Dean. Neither ever speak of it.
  Lor:
 OMG YES
 Mace:
 Ope, buhbye, Neal
  Lor:
 LOLOLOL
don't let your creepy necromancy hit you on the way out
 Mace:
 SNORK
 Mace:
 Warren (Buffy) is still WAAAY worse
  Lor:
 YEP
 Mace:
 the...bodily sounds in this ep are extra ew
  Lor:
 they really are
 Mace:
 omg the knee slide
  Lor:
 omg Dean's slide into the grave
 Mace:
 HAHAHA YAS
  Lor:
 YES
 oh Dean, honey
 Mace:
 YUP
 Mace:
 "pretty sharp"
  Lor:
 YES
 you weren't actually dead, baby. it's okay
 Mace:
 (not yet at least)
  Lor:
 (yeah)
 Mace:
 the way he looks away from Mary's grave and walks head half down to the car
GAH
  Lor:
 YES
 the way this particular episode is bookended by Mary's grave is really interesting when you know that she’s gonna come back later
 Mace:
 oh YES great point!
  Lor:
 accidentally amazing
 Mace:
 HAHAHA YES
  Lor:
 omg DEEEEEAN
 Mace:
 YESYESYES
  Lor:
 there's his DUMB FACE again
 Mace:
 DO NOT CRY, DEAN DO NOT
I CANNOT TAKE IT
  Lor:
 RIGHT?
  Lor:
 if Dean and Willow cried in front of me at the same time, I would in fact cease to exist
 Mace:
 CORRECT
  Lor:
 "you wanted to know how I was feeling. well, that's it. what could you possibly say to me to make that all right?"
 Mace:
 the way Sam looks at him, SO CONCERNED because this isn't NORMAL for Dean
  Lor:
 diiiiiiies
 YES
 Mace:
 YES
  Lor:
 and the way he knows it from the MOMENT he pulls the car over
and it just gets worse and worse
holds them both
 Mace:
 YES
 also: his way of paying respect to his mom is to work the case and Sam's is to talk to her
  Lor:
 YES
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Rewatching Salvation
Welcome to “Truck Size Apparently Matters Too: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
 Up today, s1e21: Salvation.
  Sam, Dean, and John are hot on the trail of the Yellow-Eyed Demon and think they have a good lead on where he will strike next. But then Demon Meg issues an ultimatum: John comes alone with the Colt or lots of people start dying. So Sam and Dean take off for Yellow Eyes and John goes to deliver a fake Colt, knowing that it won't trick anyone but may buy the boys some time. Things...don't go well on either end, although Sam and Dean do have a nice brotherly moment in the car. And Dean holds a baby.
 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
 [and we begin:]
 Mace:
i love that they seem to think priests just hang out at the pulpit all day
 Lor:
lolol
right?
also, isn't this pastor Jim? the trappings of this church do not look like he'd be a pastor
 Mace:
yeah I don't remember
 but the catholic church doesn't call their clergy pastors, I don't think?
��Lor:
yeah
 Mace:
 poor guy, anyway
 Lor:
he could be... Episcopalian? I thiiink? their churches would look like that? but I still don't think they'd be called pastors
 Lor:
mmmm sammy's polo over a long sleeved t-shirt
 Mace:
interesting. i have no idea what their nomenclature is like
 YAS
 Lor:
oh my boys
 Mace:
 yeah
 Lor:
of course john is in front with his jacked up monster truck of penile fortitude
 Mace:
YUP
 "at Jim's place"? the church is his "place"? Weird
 Lor:
yeah
weird
 he makes "you got any better ideas" sound like "fuck you" and FUCK HIM
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
does he HEAR himself?
 Mace:
 and then the little emotional display because he wanted the boys to know how 'sad' he is? UGH
 Lor:
he dragged his poor babies all over everywhere and fucked them up and wouldn't answer their calls when they were DYING but “ooooh, Pastor Jim died. End it. no matter what it takes”
BLECK
 Mace:
YUP
FUUUUCK YOU JOHN
 omg the raised eyebrows when he sees the girl
 Lor:
YES
 Mace:
 sweet little pumpkin of a hedonist
 Lor:
YES
and just a hint of "ah. I have an in for getting info"
 Mace:
yep
 Lor:
how many shirts is he wearing?
three? under the jacket?
 Mace:
SNORK!!
it's raining and he's chilly
 Lor:
yeah
 Lor:
maybe he needs some snuggles
 Mace:
 muffin needs layers
 Lor:
LOL
 Mace:
 YES YES HE DOES
 Mace:
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   Lor:
lololol
 Mace:
 Monica is adorable
 Lor:
she IS
 Mace:
CREEPY CLOWN MOBILE
NOPENOPENOPE
 Lor:
WHO PUTS THAT IN THEIR KID'S ROOM
 Mace:
RIGHT?!?!
honestly
 Lor:
go OFF, Dean
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
go off more than that, baby
"I'm not crazy about this new tone of yours" HE IS 27 YEARS OLD, JOHN
 Mace:
 RIGHT?! My god, just fuck right off you asshole
 Lor:
interesting how much Dean is (literally) in the background in this episode
 Mace:
 yeah
 Lor:
"it doesn't really matter"
 Mace:
 "so you think Meg is a demon?" HAHAHAHA that seems like such a silly question at this point
 Lor:
LOL
 "I want you to go to school. I want Dean to have a home" like the only time he ever thinks about them, right there
 Mace:
yep
like, maybe you should have thought of that YEARS AGO, ASS
 Lor:
RIGHT?
 Mace:
you want those things for them, but only after YOU get what YOU want
that's not parenting
that's not putting your kids first
 Lor:
and does he realize that HE is the reason his boys don't have those things? it's not the demon, it's HIM
 Mace:
 that's literally putting them second
 Lor:
YES
 the way Dean's voice cracks when he says "you're no good to us dead"
 Mace:
ooof
 Ugh, I hate that John's such a fox. It's annoying because I need to hate him completely.
 Lor:
LOLOLOLOL RIGHT?
 if he had a soul, he would (well, first, he wouldn't have done all this) but he would have wrapped Dean up in a crushing hug before he left
  Mace:
EXACTLY
but NOOOOO, that's not manly
 Lor:
nope
but that's what Dean wants. he wants his DAD. the dude who picked him up and asked him if they should throw the football around with Sammy
 Mace:
 yep
 not to mention Sammy, who gets to sit back and watch this angsty tragedy play out and also doesn't get any love himself
 Lor:
YEP
 "naaaah" omg Dean's face
 Mace:
 don't you have to be an actual priest to bless water?
 Lor:
a REALLY feel like you have to be a priest to do this
 Lor:
HAHAHA
 Mace:
HAAAHAHAHAHA
 Mace:
 #US
 Lor:
YES
 Mace:
 when John does it, it just turns to jagweed water
 Lor:
SNORK
 Mace:
 oh SAMMY
 Lor:
YES
 Mace:
 Dean needs this right now and Sammy knows
 Lor:
and the way Dean is completely taken aback by this
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
oh Dean
 Mace:
 I don't like Meg but I do love her haircut
 Lor:
lol YES
 Mace:
how did John not realize that they'd of course test it
 Mace:
 numbnuts
 Lor:
yeah
maybe he did though
I mean, i don't put it past him to go off on what he suspects is a suicide mission/trap and not even hug his kiddos first
little turd
 Mace:
oh yeah, that's a fair point
  omg Meg is such a bad actor: "HOLY. WATER. JOHN. REAL. CUTE."
 Lor:
LOLOLOLOL
 in a SHOCK, John doesn’t answer the phone
  Mace:
SNORK!
such a twist to the story, that
 Lor:
lol
 Mace:
 Dean with a baby in his arms is peak ovary asplosion
 Lor:
YES
 oh Dean. he's gonna need a hug after this rescue. AND NO ONE'S GONNA GIVE IT TO HIM
  Mace:
 do you volunteer, Katniss?
 Lor:
I DO
 Mace:
 so many shocking twists today...
 Lor:
SO many
 Lor:
"i don't care! I DO!"
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
everybody STOP trying to sacrifice themselves and leave Dean bereft
 Mace:
 yes, because DeanDean NEVER has that notion. EVER.
 Lor:
NEVAH
 Lor:
aaaand that's the complete turn around from the pilot
 Mace:
 YUP
 how many times does Dean get slammed into a wall in this show? We should start a tally
  Lor:
YES
 "sometimes I feel like I’m barely holding it together, man" DEEEEEAN
 Lor:
(sometimes, baby? all the time. I hear angels are good at helping with that)
 Mace:
 (YAS)
 Mace:
 [in reference to Dean saying that Mary is never coming back, which echoes Sam saying this in the pilot]:
(it also makes no sense either time. They are, in fact, never coming back. Why does that make the boys so angry?)
  Lor:
yeah, I dunno
 Lor:
maybe they read it as some kind of disrespect to their memory? the suggestion that it might not be worth it to get revenge?
 Mace:
I suspect that yeah, that’s what they’re going for, but the writing is weird, then. Because it’s just a simple statement of fact with no hint that they don’t care that they’re gone. Just that nothing is going to bring them back. No hint of “it’s not worth it/their memory isn’t worth it” or whatever. I just think they could have written the dialogue better in both cases to make such violent reactions make some bit of sense
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