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Rewatching Free to Be You and Me

Welcome to “Bert is to Ernie as Dean is to…: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

Up today, s5e3: Free to Be You and Me

Sam and Dean have gone their separate ways for now, and this episode splits time between the two as they each have their own adventures. Sammy is incognito and working as a bartender, doing his best to stave off the annoying advances of a coworker, who eventually finds out that people who try to get close to him get held at knifepoint by hurt-butt hunters mad at Sam for starting the apocalypse then quitting the biz (or worse - EXPELLED). Meanwhile Dean and Cas go looking for Raphael to pump him for info on where God ran off to, the whole time giving each other Looks and throwing all sorts of poorly-disguised gay references at each other. Just make out, already, yeesh. Turns out Raphael is 100% that d-bag and God’s nowhere to be found. Dean and Cas then have a heart-to-heart in Baby, during which Dean claims he’s happier without Sam around. Cas smells manure. More tortured loving glances. THEN, cut to Sammy dreaming about Jess, who turns out to be Lucifer trying to gaslight his best vessel. Lots of fraught going on here, folks.

Mace:

Oh Sammy, quit sulking about that tart

Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

Mace:

I have jealousy issues

oh LOOKIT HIM

Lor:

well I mean you ARE way better than Jess

RIGHT?

Mace:

I appreciate the support

Lor:

shuttup not!Jess

Mace:

YES

SHUT. IT.

AND QUIT CALLING HIM BABY

IT’S DUMB

oh Sammy.

pets him

Lor:

seriously, Jess. Baby is the car. WATCH THE SHOW

Mace:

oof hot and naked and crying I CANNOT

HAHAHAHA

Lor:

lol

oh I forgot this song is in the show. Jensen sings this a lot at cons

Mace:

interesting

this montage is so good

Lor:

omg lemons versus vamp blood

Mace:

and so is that shirt on Sam

Lor:

YES

YES

aw Dean taking care of his things

Mace:

HAHAHA boundaries Cas

Lor:

"Don't do that!" LOLOLOLOL

Mace:

“hello Dean”

“my apologies"

Lor:

"personal space" oh hush, you know you like him in your personal space

Mace:

RIGHT?!

Lor:

"can I have my damn necklace back, please"

Mace:

oh lookit him getting right back in that personal space

Lor:

TMN angel haaaaahahahaha

Mace:

AND THE LOOKS THEY’RE GIVING EACH OTHER

Lor:

YAS

Mace:

come on, people, HOW DO YOU NOT SEE THIS

Lor:

HE JUST COMPARED THEM TO THELMA AND LOUISE YOU'D HAVE TO BE BLIND

Mace:

they are both so pretty

RIGHT??!

Lor:

Right? and they look so good together

Mace:

and Dean keeps licking his lips

THEY DO

Lor:

WHAT WAS THE LOOK DEAN JUST GAVE HIM OMG

Mace:

“I DIDN’T POOP FOR A WEEK”

Lor:

lololololol

Mace:

Dean just wants roadtrip time with Cas

Lor:

YES

Mace:

stop flirting with my stringbean, bitch

Lor:

RIGHT? even if you do have a cute smile

yes, barman grandpa, it does seem like the end of the world

Mace:

HAHAHA

Lor:

HE'S FIXING HIS TIE LIKE HE'S HIS WIFE

Mace:

YESYESYESYES

Lor:

"that's how you become president" lololol ow

Mace:

YES

THE BADGE MEME

Lor:

omg fixing the ID

YAAAAAS

Mace:

I LOVE YOU CAS YOU BUT WALNUT

Lor:

YES

Mace:

*big (But I’m okay letting but(t) stand)

Lor:

LOLOL

"pump and go" do they do this shit on purpose? they must

Mace:

HAHAHAHA

the DEMONS…DEMONS…DEMONS OMG

Lor:

"we all have our demons" lololol Dean

no, Kolchak

Mace:

“thank you” and the look

HAHAHAHA

Lor:

YES

Mace:

“jumps my bones” COME ON

Lor:

YEP

Mace:

omg Bobby’s snark

Lor:

I LOVE WHEN BOBBY DADS THEM

Mace:

YES

Lor:

"arid" I LOVE HIM

Mace:

YES

he brought Dean…oil…special oil...

omg Dean is using the last night on earth line HOW IS THIS NOT ON PURPOSE

Lor:

he is this close to giving him the "last night on earth" line

HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BERT AND ERNIE ARE GAY

Mace:

oh he’s had occasion, but he’s been waiting for Dean

Lor:

YAAAAAAS

Mace:

I MEAN COME THE FUCK ON

Lor:

HOW is that RELEVANT, DEAN? UNLESS

Mace:

RIGHT?!

Lor:

What the HELL would be wrong with "Keith Samuel"?

Mace:

right?

bitch, butt OUT

Lor:

i mean I wouldn't PICK it, but it's not BAD?

Mace:

agreed, esp with the package it’s labeling

Lor:

God that SHIRT

YES

Mace:

YES

READ THE ROOM, HAG

NO MEANS NO, BITCH

Lor:

RIGHT?

look, Dean, when you told him he wasn't gonna die a virgin, he was hoping for someone else

Mace:

RIGHT?!

he’s all mussed I CANNOT

Lor:

"this whole industry runs on absent fathers" you would know, Dean

RIGHT?

Mace:

RIGHT?!?@?@?!?!?!

“years…” oh honey

Lor:

oooof

you DO mean to pry stop it

Mace:

all you’ve been doing is prying you stupid horse

Mace:

HAHAHA

Lor:

LOL

nnnnnngggggg his deep ass voice speaking whatever that is. Enochian I guess?

Mace:

part fake Latin part nonsense

but yeah the voice is quality

Lor:

I have an advantage here in that none of it meant anything to me

Mace:

HAHAHA

Lor:

"I thought you were supposed to be impressive" DEAN

"by the way, hi, I'm Dean" OMG

Mace:

NICE

DED

Lor:

all casual taking a beer and then turning around and GLUGGING it because he's actually terrified

Mace:

YES

Lor:

THEY HAD A PLAN I LOVE THEM

Mace:

YES

Lor:

"don't look at me, it was his idea" and then the look to Cas like "sorry, hon"

Mace:

HAHAHAHA

Lor:

look, dude, demons ain't new

Mace:

it’s not his fault you’re incompetent at your job, idiot

HAHAHA

Lor:

lol

RIGHT?

Mace:

Meh, knife her, we don’t care

Lor:

okay, she's a pain, but hunters taking civilians hostage at knifepoint? come on, dillweeds

HA!

Mace:

Yeah

Lor:

look Raphael, if you think the 20th century was worse than all the rest of history, you have not been paying attention

Mace:

Daddy ran away- so angels are all prostitutes?

Lor:

"he didn't happen to work at the post office did he?”

Mace:

HAHAHA

Lor:

LOLOLOL

LORD he looks good

Mace:

YES HE DOES

Lor:

omg lookit Cas and Dean all rain spattered

Mace:

YES

Lor:

"but today you're my little bitch" DED

"what he said" HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mace:

WHAT HE SAID AHAHAHAHA

Lor:

mmmmmrrrg little peek at his back

Mace:

YES

but wtf is wrong with these a-holes?

Lor:

RIGHT?

Mace:

why can’t everybody just leave my Sam alone?!

Lor:

seriously

he does look kinda hot with blood all over his face though

Mace:

he really does

and all pissed

Lor:

YES

Mace:

oh so EVERYONE is a prostitute in this episode, then

Lor:

"who cares what some ninja turtle says, Cas. what do YOU believe?"

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Mace:

YES

Lor:

oh Dean

Mace:

knocks him upside

Lor:

"and you're not that much fun"

you're not ALONE you DOPE you're with Cas

Mace:

right?

Lor:

oh ope. careful what you wish for, Chucklehead

Mace:

HA

Lor:

SAM WINCHESTER YOU ARE NOT THIS DUMB

Mace:

right?!

oh hey, Luci

oh god that tatt peeking out of his shirt

Lor:

RIGHT?

I LOVE THIS WHOLE STUPID SET UP SO MUCH

Mace:

YES

Lor:

they are PLAYING this as homoerotic and it still doesn't hold a candle to Cas and Dean just, like, standing next to each other

Mace:

NOPE

ooof. shit’s gettin’ real.

Lor:

YAAAAAS

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Rewatching Jus in Bello

Welcome to “Maybe He’s Born with It, Maybe It’s Jail Lighting: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s3e12: Jus in Bello.

 Knowing that they’ll be after her, Bella lays a trap for the boys, which is how they end up face down in handcuffs on her hotel room floor with Victor Henriksen smirking over them. Victor takes them to the local jail to await transport to somewhere more equipped to handle such master criminals. Shortly the jail is under siege by demons, and it is only when Sam and Dean save Victor from demon possession that they are able to convince the cops to let them out of their cell and try to save everyone. Through a clever trap and the use of a recorded exorcism, they do just that (and without killing any virgins!). Victor declares the boys dead and lets them go, but shortly after Sam and Dean make it to a motel to rest, Ruby arrives and tells them that Lilith came to the jail looking for them and killed everyone still there, including Victor.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

  Lor:

VICTOR

 Mace:

 YAS

Lor:

omg Dean's face when he holds up the wigs

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"sam, just promise me you won't wear a terrible one of these after I die"

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

god the light through his adorable ear

 Mace:

 oh Bella. So clever

 Lor:

such a smartie

 Mace:

 “hi guys” not “hello boys"

 Lor:

"hi, guys. it's been awhile" I LOVE HIM

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

because he doesn't steal other people's line. he's badass all by himself

 Mace:

 I think “hello boys” is code only used by non-normal people

 Lor:

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 snork no seriously. people outside society

 Lor:

it's un-normie-dar

 Lor:

ooooh, Victor. don't be a jerk

 Mace:

 of course you took it there, Lor

 Lor:

took it WHERE, Mace. I'm just little

 Lor:

he called Sam Dean's half-wit little brother

 Mace:

 i wonder if this whole local cops/fbi hatred is real or only a hollywood fiction

 Lor:

is he like the only person who ever thinks Sam isn't the smart one?

 Lor:

oooo good question

 Lor:

I bet the locals LIKE it when someone further up the chain comes in and takes over the responsibility

 Mace:

omg these two

 Mace:

 right?

 Lor:

ADORABLE

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

they so should not have put them in one cell together

 Mace:

oh don’t take the vest off, Victor

 Mace:

RIGHT?!

 Mace:

 “we don’t swing that way"

 Lor:

"you kinky son of a bitch, we don't swing that way"

 Mace:

 oh DEAN WINCHESTER

 Lor:

DEAN

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

ALWAYS goes there with the joke

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"where's that smug smile, Dean?"

 Mace:

 Victor, do NOT threaten to separate them

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

he just motivated them

 Mace:

 for as long as he’s been hunting them, he doesn’t know them very well

 Lor:

right?

 Lor:

because he thinks he can profile them, and NOPE. they're the Winchesters. they don't work the normal way

 Mace:

 correct. but he even misses the actual normal stuff, like they are CLOSE and you DON’T threaten to take one away from the other

 Lor:

YEP

 Lor:

ooooh Sammy has it memorized now

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

"yeah, do THAT"

 Mace:

HAHAHA YES

 Mace:

 Dean is DONE

 Lor:

Dean's like "supermax? yes please. better than demons"

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

poor Nancy

 Lor:

omg the way they stand up in unison

 Mace:

 they both stand up at the same time I LOVE IT

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

yeah, Nancy gets the short end

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

she sure does

 Mace:

 Victor gives good taking-to

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 and then immediately pivots to comforting Nancy

 Lor:

YAAAS

 Lor:

"don't you dare say demons"

 Lor:

he is not having a good day

 Mace:

oh Victor

 Mace:

 “it’s awesome”

 Lor:

"how's the shoulder?" "it's awesome"

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

I don't like that Dean is all hurt, poor thing

 Lor:

LOL

 Mace:

well he did say he’s awesome, so no worries

 Mace:

 omg that smile he gives nancy

 Lor:

uh HUH

 Lor:

lol YES

 Mace:

 Sam does his talking to a wounded animal bit so well

 Lor:

that towel came out of Nancy's gym bag or something. aint no cloth towels in that building

 Lor:

HE DOES

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

lololol the way Dean smacks him

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 omg he wants a snack

 Lor:

"would it kills these cops to bring us a SNACK?"

 Lor:

I. LOVE. HIM.

 Mace:

 “think it’s because we’re so awesome?” DEAN

 Lor:

"think it's bc we're so awesome?"

 Lor:

DEAN

 Lor:

omg the way they step back

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"but you didn't shoot the deputy"

 Mace:

 “but you didn’t shoot the deputy” DEAN WINCHESTER

 Lor:

DEAN WINCHESTER

 Lor:

HAAAAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

 oh look, it’s Victor’s awakening

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

omg Dean handing him the gun

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

and then his sigh of relief

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 and Victor just accepts, takes a breath, and asks for instructions

 Lor:

"so how do we survive" I LOVE that he just pivots right into what do we need to do?

 Mace:

I love this guy

 Mace:

 YESYESYES

 Lor:

my GOD Dean's eyes I cannot

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

"how you holding up, Nancy?"

 Lor:

he checks in with her

 Mace:

 and he’s being tended to nnnnggg

 Lor:

and his thank you is sincere

 Lor:

YAAAAAS

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 hurry, Dean...

 Lor:

HURRY UP DEAN

 Lor:

lololol

 Mace:

 HAHAHAH OMG

 Lor:

omg us this episode

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

no matter how many times we watch it, it’s still INTENSE

 Mace:

 this is also my favorite kind of zombie movie, when the people are holed up somewhere trying to keep the monsters out

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

ooooo

 Lor:

I... do not watch zombie movies

 Mace:

well I don’t anymore either, but when I did...

 Mace:

 I’m weak in my old age

 Lor:

HA!

 Lor:

I think it happens to all of us

 Mace:

 I mean, I even met George Romero, which was awesome

 Lor:

omg their little tattoo reveals

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

"not long enough" ooooof Sammy

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

who is George Romero?

 Mace:

 director of Night of the Living Dead

 Lor:

ah

 Lor:

that IS cool

 Mace:

 the seminal zombie film of all time

 Lor:

omg his little ripped jeans

 Mace:

right?! it was VERY cool and he was adorable

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

 “evil clowns that eat people"

 Lor:

"okay, then"

 Mace:

 “I think the world’s gonna end bloody”

 Lor:

I would watch the Dean and Victor odd-couple who solve supernatural-tinged cases while they flirt and kiss a lot show. I would watch it SO HARD

 Lor:

oh Dean

 Mace:

 oooh YES

 Lor:

the world will be fine. because of you, baby. and then... IT DOESN’T BEAR THINKING ABOUT

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 Lor:

oooof, Dean

 Lor:

"i'm sorry, I must have blood in my ear"

 Mace:

 ugh, Laurel.

 Lor:

is that her only good line in the whole show?

 Mace:

 is it really a good line?

 Lor:

no other OPTION

 Mace:

 she can’t even insult them good

 Lor:

the key to acting is eNUNciating, apparently

 Lor:

I dunno it made me laugh?

 Mace:

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 clearly you don’t hate her enough

 Lor:

"i got virtue"

 Mace:

oh Nancy

 Mace:

“no way"

 Mace:

and he says it as a compliment

 Mace:

 ADORABLE

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

his delivery of that line is a delight

 Mace:

and also befuddled because he’s such a little hedonist that he’s sad she hasn’t had that kind of fun

 Mace:

 it really really is

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 Victor and Dean saying NOPE

 Lor:

awww Victor and Dean being on the same moral stance

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

“STOP STOP”

 Mace:

 oh DEAN I LOVE YOU

 Lor:

"nobody kill any virgins!"

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

i'm all the way with Dean here

 Mace:

“who hasn’t even been laid” where most dudes would say something dickish like “before I’ve had a change to tap that"

 Mace:

 he is a gentleman’s gentleman

 Lor:

did they give him extra green eye juice for the episode or what omg

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 it’s the jail lighting. does wonders

 Lor:

(you think there's an element of he's not good enough for her in there too?)

 Lor:

HAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

hm, maybe?

 Mace:

 I think it’s more just seeing her as a Person and not a female

 Lor:

I'm good with that, of course

 Lor:

I could see him being all "you've WAITED you can't want to stop waiting with ME"

 Mace:

 he’s too busy to think that about her right now. he’d need more time to get to know her I think

 Lor:

ooooo, yeah

 Lor:

"but not with you" omg

 Mace:

“when this is over, I’m gonna have so much sex”

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

lolol

 Mace:

 now, if Dean was there to hear that, he’d be willing to help if she wanted, I think

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

 the shift from “saving it for someone special” to “I just want to have some fun” would be it for him

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 how hilarious must if have been to have to pretend to be pressed up against the wall

 Lor:

haaaaahahahah

 Lor:

this is SO CLEVER

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

 SMARTY SAMMY

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

omg Dean's little shrug

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

I love how many law enforcement folks they get not only on their side but to make up career-ending shit for them

 Mace:

 oh YEP

 Lor:

"one's really tall and one's really cute"

 Mace:

 “one’s really tall and one’s really cute” EXCUSE ME, BITCH?!

 Lor:

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 Lor:

accurate but not precise, Lilith

 Lor:

aw DeanDean is still hurting

 Mace:

 ooof, he is

 Lor:

oooof his face that both Nancy and Victor died

 Mace:

YEP

 Mace:

 and Sammy’s sad puppy eyes

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

um no, RUBY. their plan was fine

 Mace:

yeah

 Mace:

 yoicks

 Lor:

oh BOYS it's not your fault, your FACES

 Mace:

 such a good episode

 Lor:

YES

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Rewatching Dream a Little Dream of Me

Welcome to “Perchance to Dream!Dean: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

  Up today, s3e10: Dream a Little Dream of Me

 After Bobby falls into a coma that seems to have no medical explanation, Sam and Dean work to recreate the case he was working on. Turns out Bobby is stuck inside his own mind, being tormented by nightmares controlled by Jeremy, the man he was hunting. The boys go in after him and are able to get him to wake up, but they still have to contend with the troubled young man who doesn’t want them to take away his ability to invade people’s dreams. Dean gets stuck in his own nightmare where he fights back against a version of himself who claims it’s Dean’s destiny to become a demon, and Sam finally dispatches Jeremy as parallels between Jeremy’s abusive father and John pile up. In the end, Dean brokenly admits to Sam that he doesn’t want to die or go to hell. Sam promises that they will find a way to save him.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

  [and we begin:]

  Lor:

 oooooh is this the one where Dean finally admits that he doesn't want to go to hell?

 Mace:

 maybe?

  Lor:

 tentative bounce

Mace:

 poor Bobby

  Lor:

 yeah

he sure does get stuck in his head a lot

 Mace:

 SNORK

  Lor:

 "you're drinking whiskey" "I drink whisky all the time" "no you don't"

oh Sammy

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

poor SAM

  Lor:

 "how can you care so little about yourself"

 JOHN

the answer is JOHN

 Mace:

 “what’s wrong with you?”

 HAHAHA YES

  Lor:

 FRECKLES

 Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 "extremely lame vacation" lololol

 Mace:

 “some sort of sign of…something”

  Lor:

 poor Pittsburgh

 Mace:

 right?

  Lor:

 aw Dean. putting it behind the clothes in the closet is not really peak covering up his tracks

 Mace:

 SNORK

  Lor:

 he's a loyal little bean

 Mace:

 he is

  Lor:

 if Dean Winchester comes round asking me questions, I am angling to spend as much time with him as possible, not trying to blow him off

 Mace:

 DEAN

 RIGHT?!

  Lor:

 "permanent record" HAAAAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 “look officer, I can tell you what I know, but it’ll need to be over burgers and shakes later tonight…”

  Lor:

 YES CORRECT

 is he lowering his voice while he's doing his interrogating?

 Mace:

 HA! Possibly

  Lor:

 ooooof Dean at Bobby's bedside

 Mace:

 yeah

  Lor:

 omg a hacky sack reference

 Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 serious flashback to the soccer team boys wearing Dave Matthews Band shirts and kicking those around. they got SO MAD if you walked through their little circle

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA OMG

 “how bad could it be?”

oh Dean

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 he's a HUNTER, Dean

 CHIASMUS

 Mace:

 “crap. Bella?” “Bella? crap."

YAAAAASSSS

  Lor:

 YES

 I was just gonna say she always looks like she's not wearing anything under her coat HAAAAAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 SNORK

 HAHAHA OMG SAMMY

WHAT NO ONE NOTHING

  Lor:

 LOLOLOLOLOL

 "Brad Pitt?"

he always goes there

 Mace:

 oh DEAN WINCHESTER

 YEP I WONDER WHY

  Lor:

 Right? WHAT could be THE REASON?

 Mace:

 omg SAMMY

  Lor:

 lololol SAM. she's wearing clothes, hon

 Mace:

 a boy can hope

  Lor:

 omg Sam

 Mace:

 YAS

  Lor:

 and interesting that given their chemistry, it isn't Dean dreaming about her

 it's polyjuice potion!

 Mace:

 ESSENCE OF GOYLE

  HAHAHAHA OMG LOR

  Lor:

 HAAAAAHAHAHAHA MACE

 DON'T SEPARATE

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

  Lor:

 why are they dumb?

if this were me, I'd be holding hands

 Mace:

 well that goes without saying

  Lor:

 LOL

YES

 daaaaw passed out boys

 Mace:

 YAS

 did they never wonder how Bobby became a hunter?

  Lor:

 admires the quick, effective way of establishing what we're seeing is in a dream after the commercial break

 no

 Mace:

 oooh yes!

  Lor:

 he's their dad. they haven't thought about him as a person he existed before them yet

 Mace:

 Very true

  Lor:

 mmmm pocket doors

love em

 Mace:

 my parents have those

  Lor:

 my grandparents had them in their house

 "everybody got into hunting somehow"

 Mace:

 oh Bobby

  Lor:

 YES

and Dean acknowledging the heartfelt thanks in the least way possible

 he looks like JOHN, Sam

 Mace:

 omg Dean’s FACE

 YES

  Lor:

 "aw, I dunno, it wasn't that dumb"

 YES

 "I was thirsty!"

 "you seem a little caffeinated"

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 "don't yell at me, boy!"

 Mace:

 SNORK

  Lor:

 Dean's emotional dysregulation gets bad when he's sleep deprived, poor thing

 Mace:

 Same, Dean. Same.

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 Mace:

 oh you chuckleheads

  Lor:

 "cause I don't want you digging around in my head" oh Dean

the way he looks at Sam

"stop looking at me like that"

 Mace:

 so the writers think pretty women inviting them to picnics is the be all and end all, then?

 YES

  Lor:

 it's so DOMESTIC

 Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 LOL I guess

I mean, I buy it for Dean

Sam not so much

 Mace:

 yeah

  Lor:

 dreams on TV are never anything like real dreams. mine anyway. like they don't WORK the same

 Mace:

 correct

 oh damn. this scene.

  Lor:

 "aren't you a handsome son of a gun"

 YES

  Lor:

 "how worthless you feel"

OOOOOOF

 Mace:

 RIGHT

  Lor:

 omg he keeps trying with the fingers

adorable

 Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 oooo Dean thought dream!Dean was Jeremy and Sam thought Jeremy was Dean

 Mace:

 OOOOOOH

  Lor:

 I'm not sure you can survive that, actually? not dreaming for 15 years?

 Mace:

 yeah I’m pretty sure you can't

there’s an actual disorder like this but the people die way before that

  Lor:

 yeah, that's what I thought

I mean, on that TNG ep they all went unsurvivably insane in like 72 hours or something

 "look after your little brother, boy!"

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 oooof yeah

  Lor:

 "Daddy's blunt little instrument"

 Mace:

 “daddy’s blunt little instrument"

  Lor:

 YES DEAN

 Mace:

 yoicks

  Lor:

 Speak this truth about John

 Mace:

 YAAS DEAN

 oh DEAN

  Lor:

 "I didn't deserve what he put on me and I don't deserve to go to hell!"

good, Dean, good! holds him

 "this is what you're going to become!"

 Mace:

 yes, but he’s still beating himself to a pulp

  Lor:

 ooooooof

 YEP

 "you answer me when I'm talking to you, boy!"

 Mace:

 oooof

  Lor:

 I could write a short paper on the use of the word "boy" in this ep

 Mace:

 oh poor Dean

  Lor:

 it's GOT to be intentionally paralleling what dream!Dean says John said to him

 yeah

 Mace:

 oh yeah

  Lor:

 I love how Bobby brings things up with the boys but doesn't badger them about it

 Mace:

 YEP

 NOT LITERALLY

  Lor:

 "you boys better check your pockets" "not literally" haaaaahahahaha

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 “dammit boys"

  Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 that’s Bobby’s side of the show right there

  Lor:

 YES

 oh Dean

why would we share anything with people who love us

 Mace:

 DEAN WINCHESTER YOUR PANTS ARE ON FIRE

  Lor:

 RIGHT

 "I've been doing some thinking. I don't wanna die. I don't wanna go to hell"

 "okay, good" HIS VOICE

 Mace:

 oh DEAN

oh honey

  Lor:

 THE SNAP AS THE FINAL SHOT

 Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 holds him

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Bedtime Stories

Welcome to “The Brothers Get Grimm with Each Other: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s3e5: Bedtime Stories

  People are dying weird in a small town. It takes our boys a minute to realize it, but the deaths all mimic fairy tales. What seems to be the ghost of a little girl appears at the scenes of the deaths, and that doesn’t track. Until Sam and Dean discover a young woman who has been in a coma since she was a child—and whose father has been reading her fairy tales all these years. Her spirit is trapped and restless because her step-mother poisoned her years ago. The boys have to convince her father to listen to her spirit and let her go to stop the grim deaths. Meanwhile, Sam has been hounding Dean about his refusal to try to find a way out of his demon deal, and the end of the episode sees Sam sneaking off to try to force the crossroads demon to give up Dean’s contract. Sam learns that she’s not the one holding his deal, and Sam shoots her with the Colt (and thus killing the woman she’s possessing as well). Should we be worried about him?

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

  [and we begin:]

 Mace:

wow, looong previously on

 Lor:

yeah

 Lor:

ah, peaceful music. something horrible is about to happen

 Mace:

snork!

Mace:

 the snort!

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

it's so good

 Lor:

you don't get it until you get it and then it's amazing

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 oh, scared little piggy

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

(aaaand now I’m thinking about Lord of the Flies)

 Mace:

(HA! sorry)

 Mace:

 oh shouty boys

 Lor:

"you're not dad" ooooo, the faces

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

I love when they argue about who gets to die

 Mace:

SNORK YEP

 Mace:

 Pouty/Angry Sammy makes me happy

 Lor:

that is how the full moon works, sammy

 Mace:

 HA

 Lor:

"the things he can do with a pen"

 Lor:

DEAN

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Mace:

 He’s secretly making fun of Sam’s LotR fanfic

 Lor:

omg taking the pen cap off with his teeth

 Lor:

haaaaaahahahahaha

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

“how would you feel?"

 Mace:

 OOOFFF

 Lor:

"how would you feel" "I can't imagine anything worse" LOW BLOW SHOW

 Lor:

omg Dean's wink

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

haaaaaahahahahaha SAMMY

 Mace:

omg SAM

 Mace:

I LOVE IT

 Mace:

 I would FRAME that

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 there are NO harmless old ladies in this show, dummy

 Lor:

ALWAYS LISTEN WHEN A WOMAN IS RELUCTANT TO GO INTO A PLACE OR STAY AROUND A PERSON

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 YEPYEPYEP

 Lor:

FRECKLES

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

 Sam’s stupid little curls over his ears

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 “I have a theory - it could be bunnies"

 Lor:

"you think about fairy tales often?"

 Lor:

LOL

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

“touche"

 Mace:

 DEAN

 Lor:

"we gotta do research now don't we?"

 Lor:

you love it, Dean

 Lor:

ZERO

 Mace:

HA

 Mace:

 Focus, Dean

 Lor:

LOL

 Mace:

 KISS IT, DEAN

 Lor:

"there's no way I'm kissing a damn frog" ARE YOU A PRINCESS DEAN?

 Mace:

 it’s telling that he puts himself into the role of a princess looking for a prince

 Lor:

YEP

 Mace:

 HAHAHA OMG

 Lor:

LOLOL

 Lor:

AAAAND Dean is projecting onto Sam with all this little gay jokes now

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

bc he slipped

 Mace:

there are too many plants in that room

 Mace:

 creeps me out

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

where do they get these kids?

 Lor:

this one, the girl who plays Lilith

 Lor:

creepy

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

DEAN WINCHESTER. you know you watched the Disney Snow White on cable, you know you did

 Lor:

(that is a CREEPY ASS movie)

 Mace:

 right? and even if he didn’t there’s no way he doesn’t know that story

 Lor:

yeah

 Lor:

curious cop, empathetic cop

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 “lucky guess” SMARTY DEAN

 Lor:

YAAS

 Lor:

they are both so smart pets them

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

omg Dean's little face after he says "which is the weirdest thing I've ever said"

 Mace:

Nope, I know for a fact that you’ve recently talked about purple nurples, so not the weirdest thing, Dean

 Mace:

 but yes his face!

 Lor:

CORRECT

 Lor:

I read it that he's reconsidering it being the weirdest thing he ever said but he's letting it go

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"so you've seen her too" I love that little twist where suddenly Sam doesn’t have to convince him

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 because, I mean, HOW would he?

 Lor:

right?

 Mace:

 i like this guy

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 he has nice eyes

 Lor:

he does

 Lor:

and he seems like a really good guy

 Lor:

how did Dean get out of that one?

 Mace:

he DOES

 Mace:

 right?

 Lor:

"I sure hope not"

 Mace:

 Welp, send ’em my way, doc

 Lor:

"is that what you want me to do Dean? just let me go?"

 Lor:

AND HE DOESN'T ANSWER HIM

 Mace:

 oh BOYS

 Lor:

SOMEONE CUDDLE THAT BOY STAT

 Mace:

 I’LL TAKE THE TALL ONE

 Lor:

HE DOESN'T THINK HE DESERVES TO BE SAVED

 Lor:

more freckles for me!

 Lor:

lookit Dean all curled up in the blankets

 Lor:

oh Sam

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 oh SAMMY NO

 Lor:

convenient there was a crossroads with diggable dirt right there

 Lor:

I don't even KNOW how far I'd have to drive to find one

 Mace:

 there always is

 Lor:

LOL

 Mace:

 I actually wouldn’t have to drive too far

 Lor:

i could find a crossroad easy and a dirt road easy.... I can't think of a dirt crossroads. probably not over far, actually. but I'd have to look

 Lor:

OI! stop badmouthing Dean!

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 Lor:

oooof Sammy

 Mace:

 OOOF

 Lor:

Lolol

  [after the episode ended:]

 Mace:

 so i love the balance between Dean not thinking he deserves to be saved and Sam fighting against this deal not because he doesn’t think HE deserves to live but because he doesn’t think it’s fair that Dean has to die. Another sign of Dean being raised by John and Sam being raised by Dean

 Lor:

YES

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Playthings

Welcome to “‘Antiques’ is a Euphemism for Destiel Spelled Backward: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2e11: Playthings

 The boys investigate a couple of strange deaths at an old mansion-hotel, where they encounter a room full of creepy-ass dolls, a girl with a not-so-imaginary friend, a grandma stashed in the attic, and a couple of interesting assumptions about their sexual orientations. Turns out, the place is haunted by the ghost of grandma's sister, who died as a child and wants a new playmate, aka the young daughter of the hotel owner. Sam and Dean suss it out in the nick of time, but not before playing with the creepy dolls and Sam getting stinking drunk and ordering Dean to kill him if necessary. Brotherly fraughtness abounds. Oh, and there's a cool-as-heck-but-also-very-creepy dollhouse, too.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

  [and we begin:]

 Lor:

oooo this is one of my favorite stand-alone eps

 Mace:

it’s a good one

 although the dolls super creep me out

 Lor:

YEP

Mace:

 that dollhouse is INSANE

 Lor:

the whole what happens in the real house and what happens in the doll house thing I just love as a creepiness

 Mace:

 agreed

 Lor:

something about the miniature and the stand-ins

 Mace:

 very voodoo-y

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

 staring out the rainy window OMG DEAN

 Lor:

"yeah, I'll shut up now"

 RIGHT?

 Mace:

 concern through ridicule

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

“I’m officially uncomfortable now"

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

picking on people as a way of saying "I love you"

 LOL

 Mace:

 DAPHNE

 Lor:

Fred and Daphne

 he loves Fred too

 Mace:

 HE DOES

 Lor:

we all know it

 Mace:

 “what did you mean that we look the type?” OH DEAN

 Lor:

omg Dean looking down at his clothes

 you look just like yourself, honey

 Mace:

it’s not your clothes, honey

 HAHAHAHA OMG LOR

 Lor:

MAAAAAACE

 Mace:

 I LOVE THAT SO MUCH

 Lor: <3

 Lor:

omg him falling into the bed

 Mace:

YES

 Sammy in that shirt

 Lor:

YES

 yes, dean that is the most troubling question

 omg his little "right"

 he DOESN'T OBJECT

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

God they both look so very VERY wonderful in this episode

 Mace:

 YES THEY DO

 Lor:

Dean you little shit I love you

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA “he loves to dress them up in little tiny outfits"

  Lor:

Dean VERY subtly getting back at Sam for Sam's little microaggression earlier

 Mace:

 oh yeah super subtle

 Lor:

suuuuper

 Lor:

DEAN

 Mace:

 “that’s not the kind of whacking I mean” DEAN WINCHESTER

 Lor:

he has to double down now on his masculinity

 Mace:

 SNORK

 Lor:

that little half wink

 "and short"

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA OMG SAM

 Lor:

SAAAAM

 oh, oh are you working a case, Dean? should one not drink while one is working a case, DEAN?

 Mace:

 oh ZING

 Lor:

awww he called him Sasquatch

 "Dad's an ass" CORRECT

 Mace:

 CORRECT

 Lor:

"I'm not dying" *rolls around in finale anger*

 Mace:

 snork!

 Lor:

the stupid little rips in his stupid little jeans

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"boy, you should never say that to an old man"

 I love this old guy

 Mace:

YES

 oh poor Sam

 Lor:

oh poor Sam

 lol

 Mace:

 “I hate you” “I know you do"

 Lor:

DEAN WINCHESTER

 Sam's little expression when Dean says he needs to brush his teeth

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"dude, you're not going to poke her with a stick"

 Mace:

 “DUDE you’re not going to poke her with a stick!"

 Lor:

YAS

 Mace:

 I love his old truck

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 how is this kid not creeped out by that?!

 Lor:

dunno. maybe she knows Maggie's doing it?

 Mace:

 well that’s not much better

 Lor:

LOL

 "it's been said"

 Mace:

 snork!

 Lor:

poor Dean

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

the look they exchange when she says Maggie's imaginary

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

creeeeepy

 Mace:

SO CREEPY

 sweet Sammy

 Lor:

YES

 this poor lady has had a WEEK

 Mace:

SNORK!

 I like that this is one time that they don’t find the bones and salt and burn them

 Lor:

YES

 "i didn't want you to feel useless"

 Mace:

 snork

 Lor:

aw, Sammy, that's dirty pool

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

I love that they also don't really know what happened

 Mace:

YES

 [after the episode ended:]

Mace:

 but it’s weird that they don’t salt and burn just to be safe. I like it because I like the ending but I also am… irked about it

 Lor:

yeah

 they don't even ask the questions

 which seems a bit out of character, especially for Dean as this point

 Mace:

it sure does

 seems like they could have figured out how to write that ending and also find a way for the boys to worry about it? or something? I dunno

  Lor:

yeah. some little line where Dean wants to find the body and Sam is all "I dunno, Dean, I think maybe Maggie is so tied to the house that we'd have to burn the whole thing to the ground" and Dean does a "I'm here for burning it ALL down" face and Sam does bitch face at him

  Mace:

Oooh yes I like that!

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Croatoan

Welcome to “Ventilation Plugs Hurt More: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2e9: Croatoan

  Sam has a vision of Dean killing, execution style, a man who swears he's not infected with something, but what that something is isn't clear in the vision. So the boys take off to see what's up and land themselves in the middle of a small town just starting to turn on each other where the word CROATOAN has been carved into a light pole. They hole up with a few people in a doctor's office, and a few hard choices have to be faced. They eventually discover that it's some sort of demon-based infection that seems to run its course and then vanish. Dean feels like they've lost a big battle somehow and they both have to face up to what's going on with Sam and what John told Dean just before he left for Hell.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

[and we begin:]

 Lor:

im supposed to be paying attention to something other than Dean's unbuttoned Henley, right?

 Mace:

snork

Mace:

 “ventilated” nice, Dean

 Lor:

lol

 Lor:

and Sam says plugged

 Lor:

those are... opposites. and yet

 Lor:

I love English. it's so dumb

 Mace:

SNORK!

 Mace:

 it IS so dumb

 Lor:

Dean's musterious second necklace peeks out

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 very musty

 Lor:

you HUSH

 Lor:

not my fault my thumbs are thick and Dutch

 Mace:

Ha!

 Mace:

“that’s schoolhouse rock”

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

lolololol

 Lor:

it's cute how Dean pretends he doesn't know things so Sammy can explain it

 Lor:

ducks

 Mace:

HAAAAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 you’re adorable

 Lor:

GIGGLESNORT

 Lor:

this is probably fine

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

look. I realize bad shit is about to go down, but. I would live in that house

 Mace:

 It’s a cool house but I bet there are snakes nearby

 Lor:

MACE. Ruined

 Mace:

 sorry. that’s the FIRST thought I have about any possible dwelling

 Lor:

there's no snakes in oregon

 Mace:

 that sounds suspiciously like a lie

 Lor:

I would never

  Mace:

 Suspicious Dean is suspicious

 Lor:

he is

  Mace:

 Dean didn’t hesitate to put ventilation plugs in that dude

 Lor:

lololololololol

 Lor:

that is hotter than it should be given... the corpse

 Mace:

 HAAHAHAHAHA

 Lor:

suprasternal notch nnngggg

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

he so rarely shows it off

 Mace:

 this woman looks so familiar

 Lor:

"we'll get back to you on that" terrifying and deeply competent

 Lor:

she DOES

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

AS IF any American town would quarantine because of a virus

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 the new least believable thing about SPN right there

 Lor:

YUP

 Mace:

“I don’t swing that way” Oh Dean

 Lor:

"you are a handsome devil, but I don't swing that way" Classic Dean bringing up the thing he means to hide

  Lor:

mmm i love when we can hear Baby running like that

 Mace:

 HAHAHA the yelling back and forth

 Lor:

omg this exchange

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"you gotta neigbor named Mr Rogers?" "not anymore" haaaaaahahahahahaha

 Mace:

SNORK!

 Mace:

 holding the gun under his arm WHY IS THAT SO HOT

 Lor:

RIGHT?!

 Lor:

WHY

 Lor:

I HATE guns

 Mace:

 ME TOO

 Lor:

oooof Dean. people do not hug him enough

 Mace:

ugh the people just standing out there in the dark SO CREEPY

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 SMARTY SAM

 Lor:

SAMMEH

  Lor:

"aaawkwaard"

 Mace:

 “Awkward” HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

lololol

 Lor:

"too late for that"

 Mace:

 ooof

 Lor:

yeah

 Lor:

Dean looking to Sam for the decision on the untying

 Mace:

right?

 Mace:

 oh Sam

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

 “nobody’s shooting my brother"

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

 that’s 87% of the show right there

 Lor:

YEP

 Lor:

Dean just outyelled a marine. that's impressive

 Mace:

RIGHT?!

 Mace:

 well, he WAS emotionally abused by a marine as a kid, so…

 Lor:

true

 Lor:

the way his voice changes on "no"

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

Sammy's tearfulness I cannot

 Mace:

 I’m getting FUCK 369 vibes

 Lor:

"who says I want to?" I CANNOT

 Lor:

YEP

 Lor:

"so you're just gonna give up? you're gonna lay down in die?" FUCK 327 SIDEWAYS AND BACKWARDS

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

(and Dean can only admit to Sam how tired he is when he thinks they're both gonna die)

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

oh I FORGOT about this little bit here at the end

 Mace:

ME TOO

 Mace:

 aaaand the black guy doesn’t survive the episode

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

almost but no dice

 Mace:

 Ha!

 Lor:

so do we assume he goes back and kills the doc?

 Mace:

 I guess?

 Lor:

otherwise there is indeed something left behind

 Mace:

 yeha

 Lor:

mmm I love that shirt on Sammy

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 Sam knows that Dean wouldn’t want a break unless something awful is coming

 Lor:

YEP

 Lor:

and he wouldn't want to take a break for HIMSELF

 Mace:

 nope

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching The Usual Suspects

Welcome to “Red Rum and Pea Soup: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2e7: The Usual Suspects

  "Our boys get in trouble with the law over the brutal death of a married couple after Dean is found kneeling over the bloody body of the wife (rookie mistake, but we'll let it slide because, well, Dean). They're questioned separately but still manage to communicate with each other and between the two of them they figure out where Sam needs to go next. He jailbreaks his way out a window, and one of the detectives (played by Linda Blair) has a close encounter with a dead woman, catches up with Sam, and helps him solve the restless dead-y mystery. As it turns out, there's also a not-so-supernatural twist, which leads to Dean being in even more trouble, until Linda and Sam come to save him. Then the boys are let loose, since the detective has now SEEN THINGS and understands they're hunters and not serial killers. There are Exorcist references and a walk off into the sunset."

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

omg a fax machine

 Mace:

 snork!

Lor:

aaaaaa that turn and look over the shoulder

 Mace:

 Ha! yep

 Lor:

this episode makes me so nervous bc real life/cop peril, but I also LOVE IT

 Mace:

 oh SAM - his face when she mentions the fire

 Lor:

i love these ones where they charm other people into being on their side

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

oh yeah these cop episodes make me more nervous than any others, but I'm not sure I love it

 Mace:

 I love her voice

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 "It's not your fault Dean's your brother" welp, that's not gonna help you, lady

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

like, this line is not gonna go anywhere

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

neeeewspaper. pen in mouth

 Lor:

I'll just be over here

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

the way Sam just makes this up. and how his story is intercut with what they were really doing

 Mace:

yep

 Mace:

 Dean, simmer down

 Lor:

Sam's little head gesture at Dean!

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"our company's very thorough"

 Lor:

oh Dean

 Mace:

 he's...not great at this

 Lor:

when the charm stops working he's just lost

 Mace:

 SNORK! That's it exactly!

 Lor:

you can just see him going "but... cute?"

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

oh! it's gonna be one of my favorite gifs in a minute

 Mace:

 OOOOO

 Lor:

awww he's bored

 Lor:

and being a brat

 Lor:

THERE IT IS

 Mace:

and adorable brat

 Mace:

 THERE IT IS

 Lor:

YAAAAS

 Lor:

yes, taking your glasses off will help

 Mace:

 well she's got to get the tear schmutz off

 Lor:

ah indeed

 Mace:

 it's a real problem

 Lor:

those teach schmutz ghosts are the WORST

 Mace:

 TEACH SCHMUTZ GHOSTS

 Lor:

dammit

 Mace:

 my new favorite phrase!

 Lor:

Sven, go home [Mace has named her autocorrect Sven]

 Lor:

lolololololol

 Mace:

 don't put this on Sven - it's all you

 Lor:

hmph

 Lor:

but... cute?

 Mace:

HAAAAAHAHAHAHA YES

 Mace:

 always

 Lor:

squish

 Lor:

boy he really did get wrong place wrong timed here

 Mace:

he sure did

 Mace:

 dude don't touch the body like that, Dean

 Lor:

yeeeah, they are NOT good at not contaminating scenes

 Mace:

 he's very good at the SHITSHITSHITSHIT face

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 "this Dean guy" get his sweet name out of your mouth, ass!

 Lor:

CORRECT

 Lor:

"stew in their juices" oooh they do not know the Winchester Boys

 Mace:

 the two of them working through the puzzle separately I LOVE IT

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

HAND FRECKLES

 Mace:

 I need Dean to make a reference to how the woman looks a lot like the exorcist girl because Dean would FLIP over meeting her

 Lor:

the way he shoots the notebook across the table at him

 Lor:

he WOULD

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

omg they both call him Matlock

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

children raised by television in the 80s and 90s

 Mace:

 Ha! yep

 Lor:

omg DEEEEEAN

 Mace:

HAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 he thinks he's adorable

 Lor:

HE DOES

 Mace:

 that was a CHIPS reference!

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

haaaaa SAM

 Mace:

oh look, Dean gets slammed against the wall by TWO MEN

 Mace:

 IN A ROW

 Lor:

I LOVE when one of them just DISAPPEARS

 Lor:

HE SURE DOES

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

does that EVER happen to Sam?

 Mace:

 I don't remember but I can't really think of a time

 Lor:

and I LOVE that the note not only tells Sam the anagram but alos tells him to escape. implying that Sam could have left at any time

 Lor:

I don't remember one either

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

god he's SUCH a little shit I LOVE HIM

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

I love that Dean notices her wrists

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"let's skip that part, shall we?" YES DEAN I'LL SKIP IT WHAT DO YOU NEED

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

mmmm gentle giant sammy

 Mace:

that shirt on Sam...

 Mace:

 SIGH

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

THE SNAPS

 Mace:

 YAAASSS

 Lor:

"you can arrest me later, all right?"

 Mace:

 nnnngggg

 Lor:

lolol YES

 Lor:

his sheepish little head tilt mrrrrg

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

"of course it is"

 Lor:

I love her too

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

this episode is such a good story. nicely plotted

 Mace:

 agreed

 Lor:

"no not that" hahahahaha

 Mace:

 snork!

 Lor:

I love when Sam's hair gets even longer, but this length with the little curl flips in the back is also JUST FINE

 Mace:

 omg YES I love it

 Lor:

is this... the episode where Sam and Dean have the fewest scenes together?

 Mace:

 seems like that might be right

 Lor:

it just occurred to me bc there's a lot of intercutting at the beginning, but they've barely been together yet

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

"this can't be good"

 Mace:

 HA

 Lor:

SAMMY SO SMART

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

Dean, skips right over "too much coffee" and goes straight to "prostate"

 Mace:

 HA yep

 Lor:

"or maybe you do"

 Mace:

 Dean's little nod to Sam

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 "this Dean kid"

 Lor:

"this Dean kid" "just one more dumb scumbag" I WILL COME FOR YOU PETE

 Mace:

HAHAHAHA YES

 Mace:

Sam asking if she's okay

 Mace:

 sweetheart

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

Dean's little hand gestures like he's doing a mental map of how to get there

 Mace:

 THERE IT IS

 Lor:

THERE IT IS.

 Lor:

LOLLOLOL

 Mace:

 PEA SOUP HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

YAS

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Everybody Loves a Clown

Welcome to “Something Winchester This Way Comes: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2,e2: Everybody Loves a Clown

 The boys are hanging out at Bobby’s, reeling from John’s death. Dean buries himself in fixing Baby, while Sam tries to get him to open up about his grief. When they discover an old voicemail on John’s phone from someone called Ellen, they head off to find her and discover she runs a roadhouse with her daughter Jo where hunters tend to hang out. She puts them on the case of a carnival with a carnivorous clown, and off they go. Once they take care of the clown (poor Sammy), it’s back to Bobby’s, more emotional wrangling, and Dean ends up taking a crowbar to Baby (and so essentially also to himself and therefore to our hearts.)

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

[and we begin:]

  Lor:

 god the LOOK on Dean's face when John pulls away after telling him

 Mace:

 right?

 UGH

CREEPY CLOWN

Lor:

 yeeah, I hate the creepy clowns ones

except I love them because poor Sammy

 this kid looks so much like the child of one of my high school friends. it is uncanny

 Mace:

 ha! weird

 I kind of love the detail that the kiddo isn't actually scared of the clown at all

 Lor:

 yeah

that is a really neat touch

 oooof Sammy crying and Dean just staring blankly ahead

 Mace:

 Right?! Somebody hug them both so tight

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 watch out, Dean, your pants are on fire

 Lor:

 SNORK

 OH JEEZ

it's the mechanic Dean bit

THUD

 Mace:

 LEGS POKING OUT THE BOTTOM OF THE CAR

the red rag in the back pocket

falls down ded

 Lor:

 the little ROLL

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 also, not to be missed: Sam's polo over a tshirt

 Mace:

 YES

and the shaggy hair with the little curly flip

 Lor:

 YES

 the grease on DEAN

 Mace:

 YAS

 the little cut on the bridge of Sammy's nose

 Lor:

 YES

and his STUPID ADORABLE single gel bracelet

 Mace:

 YES

 and how that stupid tshirt hangs perfectly on Dean's stupid frame

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 Bobby ABSOLUTELY gave them that van bc he was tired of Dean being a prickly mope

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA YAAASSS BOBBY

(And Dean would make a GREAT soccer mom. And he knows it.)

 Lor:

 (YEAH HE WOULD)

 (also the bit before about him and Sam hugging? YES YOU TWO SHOULD DO THAT.)

 "naw I’m just real happy to see you"

 Mace:

 (YES)

 "I need some help in here"

HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 Dean being all smarty and then Jo just clocking him. I LOVE IT

 Mace:

 I wish I liked these women better than I do, but I just...don't

 Lor:

 agreed

I like Ellen okayish. sometimes. Jo is the best right there. all downhill from here

 Mace:

 Yep

but I can't put my finger on what's wrong with their characters? We get so few strong women in this show, but something's just missing with these two

 Lor:

 yeah

it's like they are too conscious of making them strong, maybe?

 Mace:

 I think that's getting to it

they're caricatures of strong women?

 something like that

 Lor:

 like neither of them hold a candle to Missouri or Jody or Donna or Charlie or Rowena or even Mildred

 Mace:

 yep

 Ash, on the other hand, is PERFECT

 Lor:

 YES

and whatever Dean is doing here interacting with him is...flirting? or something?

I’m not going to hang anything on Ash/Dean, but like, they have more chemistry than Dean and Jo

  “51 hours”

 Mace:

 well he's already made a "I know what it's like to have a penis poking me from behind" joke in this scene...

 Lor:

 LOLOLOLOL

and he stops him from leaving just to tell him he likes the hair? which is supposed to be a dig but... isn't?

(which is how Dean operates, it's not new, but)

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

 THAT HENLEY

 Mace:

 YAS

 no one actually wants in your pants, Jo, cool your jets

 Lor:

 SNORK

look, if Dean Winchester wants to get me pizza and play some Zepp for me, I’m good

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 Lor:

 "PLANES CRASH"

oh Dean

 Mace:

 "AND APPARENTLY CLOWNS KILL"

 Lor:

 yaaas

 Mace:

 Just having finished Something Wicked This Way Comes, this is extra-creepy

 Lor:

 oooo

I SAW you really liked that

 Mace:

 Bradbury can do no wrong

 Lor:

 weirdly, I snared myself a copy thinking I might read it right around Halloween and then didn't. I should read it, huh?

 Mace:

 you absolutely should

 Lor:

 cool 

adds it to a teetering pile next to the couch

 Mace:

 excellent!

 Lor:

CLOWNS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS

 Mace:

 DO NOT tell your child that a group of people generally are your friends

 Lor:

 what the ACTUAL heckles, dude? I mean, even if you don't want your kid to be afraid of them, WHAT?

 Mace:

 JFC

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 serves him right. I mean, clowns are your friends

 Mace:

 HAAAHAHAHA

YES

 HAHAHA poor Sam

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 omg the curled lip look Sam gives Dean

 Lor:

 YES

 also, how much do I love Sam and Dean working at a carnival? the outsider stuff just INHERENT in it

 Mace:

 YAS

and they don't even belong THERE

 doubly outside

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 omg Dean

 Sam's "not really"

 Mace:

 MR. COOPER

that's the name of one of the carnival characters in the Bradbury

 Lor:

 oh COOL

 omg Sammy's laugh

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

 "Nope"

 Mace:

 "NOPE" omg Dean

 I'm sorry, but a grown man calling his father "Daddy" is skeezy

 Lor:

 ah. I am inoculated against this I think. South

 Mace:

 "live regular" OMG

 Lor:

 this dude telling Sam and Dean to live regular

 YES

 Mace:

 that's so heartbreaking

 Lor:

 YEP

 Mace:

 the cautious hope in Dean's voice here

 Lor:

 yeah

 oh boys

both of them are just giant bundles of conflicted feelings about everything here

Does Dean want Sam to go back to school or stay? Is he mad about what Sam wants, whatever it is? What DOES Sam want?

 Mace:

 oh sure, just here. only here.

 Lor:

 lololol

yep. only here

the rest of the time they know precisely what they want

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

 DEAN WINCHESTER

 Mace:

 I sort of think part of Dean's anger here is at himself for being so vulnerable at what Sam's decision will be

 Lor:

 YEP

 "skeleton, actually"

 "I was just sweepin"

 Mace:

 "we don't like outsiders"

 Lor:

 YES

 their little red windbreakers

 Mace:

 HOW do they look so good in those stupid windbreakers?

 Mace:

 OMG LOR

 Lor:

 MACE

I love it when we do that

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

 of COURSE they had some sort of falling out it was JOHN

 correct, Sammy

 Mace:

 YAS SAMMY

"this strong silent thing it's crap"

SING IT SAMMY

 Lor:

 but Mace, HE'S FINE

 Mace:

 oh DEAN NOPE BACK OFF

 Lor:

 yeeeah

 Mace:

 Now he's done it. Now Sammy's really mad

 Lor:

 they both need a minute

 OMG THE CHEWING ON HIS FINGERS

 Mace:

 Dean needs a minute in the time-out corner

 Lor:

 I'll uh tell him

 Mace:

 oh sure

 Sam's little smile

THUD

 Lor:

 YES

 and the two of them walking along an empty road carrying all their stuff

I love it

 Mace:

 YES

 UGH THE WAY HIS FACE CHANGES

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

so creepy

 it's a maze, just like their feeeelings

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHAHA OMG

 dude, Sammy, they're steaming so they're probably HOT

 Lor:

 LOLOL

 Mace:

 SMARTY DEAN

 Lor:

 YAS

 "I hate funhouses" CORRECT

 Mace:

 yup

 Lor:

 no he wouldn't Ellen and you know it

 Mace:

 yeah

 "Clowns?! What the..."

HAHAHA

 Lor:

 so I DO believe that Dean is afraid of Ellen, but also. that is not why, Dean. you're just not in the mood. that's okay, baby

 Lor:

 lololol

 Mace:

 agreed. and Jo isn't really his type

 Lor:

 nope

 "it's a school in Boston"

 Mace:

 YAS ASH

 Lor:

 YES

 Lor:

 and Dean's little grin. you're right, Dean, Ash is more interesting than Jo

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

 oh GAWD it's the kneeling and the biceps

 Mace:

 aaand we're back with the greasy tshirt THUD

 YAS

 Lor:

 YAAAS

 Mace:

 oh Sammy

OH SAMMY

 Lor:

 yeah

 Mace:

 SOMEBODY HOLD HIM

 Lor:

 "and I'm not all right. not at all. but neither are you"

 YES

 Mace:

 YOU TELL HIM SAM

 Lor:

 someone just WRAP THEM UP

 Mace:

 and here it comes

 Lor:

 oh DEAN

 Mace:

 Baby's condition = Dean's condition

Always

 Lor:

 this kills me, him wailing on Baby

 Lor:

 YEP

and it's like he's hammering on himself

 Mace:

 yep

 Lor:

 the lip tremble

jeeebus

 Mace:

 yep

  he needs an angel in a trenchcoat to come and fix him up

 Lor:

 HE DOES

 [after the episode ended:]

 Lor:

 is this one of the longest times we see them with persistent visible injuries?

  Mace:

 i suspect so, yes

 Lor:

 their faces are both very clearly banged up and it lasts a long time

 Mace:

 yes!

 Lor:

 I just love that detail so much, where they only stay injured if it matters

 Mace:

 YES

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching The Pilot

Welcome to “Lessons on Easing the Tiger and Shutting the Cakehole: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

Up today, s1e1, The Pilot.

Dean surprises Sam at college, tells him their dad has gone missing while on a “hunting trip,” and asks him for help. On their first stop on the Find John Tour, they solve the case of a Woman in White ghost. We also get a goodly amount of setup and backstory on how the boys’ mom died (spoiler: it wasn’t by natural causes (check the name of the show)), and hints at a less-than-Normal-Rockwell childhood for Sam and Dean.

Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus may contain adult language and themes.

[and we begin:]

Lor:

that shot of the house with the tree shadow is so cool

Mace:

it IS

(ugh MARY)

Lor:

oh LOOK, it's John in his only moment of good parenting in the whole show

Mace:

Oh look, John's being a sort-of good dad

HAHAHA

Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

Mace:

okay, so, John's still up and watching TV, so WHY DOESN'T HE HAVE THE MONITOR SO MARY CAN SLEEP?!

Lor:

because he SUCKS

this freaked me out SO MUCH the first time and now I'm like "yeah, yeah, bad shit, get to Sam and Dean"

Mace:

HAHA YUP same

Lor:

(this is the only ep of SPN my dad has seen and every time I mention it now, he says "flaming woman on the ceiling!")

Mace:

SNORK! I mean that is the gist

Lor:

yeah. it cracks me up though

oh whoa, there's no sound behind the title. that's weird

Mace:

it's very weird

aw BABY SAMMY

Lor:

ADORABLE

Mace:

evidence that the show originally intended to focus on Sam: we get this whole intro bit about him first

Lor:

YEP

it's from his point of view, so to speak

Mace:

this is his world first and Dean (OUTSIDER) interrupts it

Lor:

YAS

and he thinks Dean is an intruder. which he IS but he's also family

eeeeeeeeee "Easy, Tiger"

Mace:

melts

that voice is like two octaves higher than it should be

Lor:

RIGHT?

his coat is zipped up. he never zips up his coat

Mace:

oh, yeah

Lor:

oh, Dean

Mace:

yes and also Oh, Sam

Lor:

yep

that's it that's the show

Mace:

YES

Lor:

"yeah, well. I don't want to"

Mace:

oh HONEY

Lor:

"I'm twenty-six, dude" oh, Dean

Mace:

Sam's disbelief that John would "let" him – yoicks

Lor:

right?

so, what did Dean bother him about two years ago? cause Sam has to be a senior, right?

Mace:

well now, THAT'S interesting - "I can never go home" is pretty much the S&D underlying motto

Lor:

ooooooo

god, the way what Sam's saying to Jess isn't actually a lie but it's just really really not the truth

Mace:

ooof yeah

ugh no sympathy for this dudebro [Troy]

Lor:

NOPE

enjoy getting your chest ripped out by a ghost girl, you tool

Mace:

SNORK!

"a girl like you"

like what, exactly, putz?

Lor:

yeah

Mace:

this is just about where I bailed the first time around

just the sight of that house NOPENOPENOPE

Lor:

ha!

yep, pretty much every episode in the first season scared the bejesus out of me the first time

there's still one or two that legit freak me out

Mace:

Yep

Lor:

Sammy, love, leave Dean alone. let him like things

Mace:

I love you, Sammy, but your taste in music is questionable

Lor:

SNORK

Mace:

yes, Sammy, shut your cakehole please

Lor:

lolol

"thanks, that's awfully kind of you" DEAN

Mace:

YES

I mean, they ARE absolute babies

Lor:

YES

but I think I'm counting that as Dean's first joke where he's revealing something but trying to turn things around on the other person

Mace:

Ha! the smack upside!

Lor:

YAS

Mace:

Oooh, yeah

Lor:

I LOVE the way they pick at each other like that in the early seasons

is Dean wearing SNEAKERS?

Mace:

YES

and I dunno…

Lor:

talking at the same time!

Mace:

YES

omg BOYS

Lor:

omg the fighting at the computer

Mace:

yes, do go out there at night

super smart, boys

Lor:

SUPER smart

Mace:

Oh, DEAN WINCHESTER

hold onto that "not telling the truth is not healthy" attitude, wouldja?

Lor:

HA!

OH

Sammy totally parallels Mary with the whole history of hunting and wanting a normal life and not telling the spouse about it. not that we will KNOW that until season 4, but

HA!

Mace:

YEP

Lor:

holding up the keeeeys. he's so COOL

Mace:

snork!

HAHAHAHA yes, very cool, your boy is

Lor:

lolol Sammy's glee at muddy Dean

LOL

Mace:

"you smell like a toilet" SAMMY

Lor:

lololol

LOLOLOLOL Sammy pulling him in the room

I legit laughed out loud

Mace:

ha!

Lor:

"no chick flick moments" sigh

Mace:

oh Dean

Lor:

pop that collar, baby

Mace:

so... are they drawing a parallel between the Woman in White business and Mary (wasn't she wearing a white nightgown?)?

Lor:

oooo, interesting

"my boobs"

and that's two

Mace:

Ha! yep

Mace:

her death does pretty much derail her two children's lives - causes the death of their chance at a normal life, at least

Lor:

it DOES

Mace:

THAT'S THREE

Lor:

YEP

the journal... isn't a three-ring binder later, is it?

Mace:

I can't remember

god I love that hoodie/jacket combination on Sammy

Lor:

it is adorable

(and we'll learn later that Mary is a lot more implicated in what went down that night than we know now. maybe an example of the way the show is sometimes accidentally good?)

Mace:

Ha! I never made the Medea connection here before!

(interesting)

Lor:

(but I bet putting Mary in white was a conscious decision here for the look if nothing else)

Mace:

wow, this dude is really good

Lor:

yeah

his little grin at the paper clip! ain't he neat

Mace:

Snork

Mace:

JFC

Mace:

makes me jump every time

Lor:

lol

I wasn't looking at that moment, so I was saved

Mace:

oh I see how it is - you only look when Dean is on the screen, then?

Lor:

Lolololol

no, I was looking at the compy to see if you'd sent anything

Lor:

hey, Constance, leave Sammy alone. he's not unfaithful

in fact HOW DARE

Mace:

right?! HOW DARE HE IS A SWEET STRINGBEAN

interesting that in fact Sam is the first one to get sexually harassed by a woman...

Lor:

oh, you're RIGHT

Mace:

more evidence that the show was about Sam at first

Lor:

I'll be curious to see when the Sam = mental assault, Dean = sexual assault thing starts up

Mace:

YUP

Lor:

okay, the ghost face and the flickering FREAKS ME OUT

Mace:

I hate that stuff

Lor:

YEP

Mace:

those kids are CREEPY

Lor:

RIGHT?

Lor:

"if you screwed up my car, I'll kill you”

pets him

Mace:

ha!

Lor:

oh my god, the look on Dean's face when he realizes Sam doesn't want to keep going

Mace:

yeah

poor guy

but also, like, no means no, honey

Lor:

yeah

Mace:

do people actually do that? shout for the other inhabitants immediately as they walk in the door? Like, maybe put some effort into checking around first?

Lor:

LOL

only if I needed something from them right that second

I don't want to talk to ANYONE the second I walk in the door

Lor:

there are... no women in this episode who don't die or are dead

[ed: we forgot about the girls SnD talk to in the diner, clearly. But we think the larger point stands]

Mace:

oh EXCELLENT POINT

Mace:

so my assessment of Buffy But with Dudes was not far off at first, to be honest

Lor:

HA!

"We've got work to do"

 [after the episode ended:]

Mace:

can we talk about how Dean was still there even though Sam had time to walk in and eat a cookie first?

Lor:

oooo, GOOD POINT

Mace:

so he clearly hadn't driven away yet - stayed to check that Sam was in and okay

Big brother DeanDean

Lor:

of COURSE he did

Mace:

Dean is the guy who always says, "call me when you get there" and means it

Lor:

YES

and, honestly, I'm sure that boy has never driven away after dropping anyone off till he was really sure they made it inside okay

Mace:

Agreed

Lor:

it's really a pretty amazing pilot

it sets up SO MUCH

Mace:

Yeah

Lor:

and there's only one or two moments where I feel like they're dumping info on u

Mace:

there are some awkward This Is Clearly Only Here to Set Up Backstory dialogue, but not as much as other plots

snork omg

Lor:

LOL

#us

and J2 pull it off because... J2

Mace:

yep, they have the chemistry from the start

the framing narrative is cool too - start with a flaming refrigerator woman and end with one

Lor:

"flaming refrigerator woman," omg Mace. but yes correct

Mace:

because I mean if ever there was a plot based on a woman in the refrigerator trope, this entire 15-season show IS IT

Lor:

YEP

and I have to remind myself that at this point "where the heck is John?" actually has some stakes behind it

Mace:

yeah

honestly, the whole Where Is Thumbkin John bit is the weakest part of the season

Lor:

and Dean at the very least really needs him to be okay

it REALLY is

Mace:

there are so many weird plotholes surrounding it

Lor:

mostly because it turns out he’s just being a prick and staying away from them

Mace:

EXACTLY

they let it go on too long? or something?

Lor:

yeah

Mace:

although having John around much longer than he is would also be hugely problematic

and the Absent Father thing works for its own reasons

Lor:

and this early the season-long arc really feels like a little extra added-on bit? it's really a MotW show at this point

yep

so many of the ins in this season for character dev for SnD have to do with John being Not There

Mace:

exactly so

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Nightmare

Welcome to “Visions of Holy Roleplay and Sausages on Sticks: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e14: Nightmare

  Sammy’s having visions again and they’re coming in the day and they hurt. It’s gonna be fine, though, because Dean said so. Turns out the visions this time are all about one family whose members are being picked off horribly one by one. Sam and Dean contact them by donning some A+ priest outfits, the boys argue a good deal about Sam’s visions and what they mean, and it turns out what’s happening to the family is way more sinister and disturbing and complicated than they first thought. In the end, Dean assures Sam that he won’t ever turn into a monster while he’s got Dean, and we are left heartbroken over the thought of baby!Dean not having anyone to be a “Dean” for him.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

  Mace:

 all of this is nice and creepy, but it's the radio that puts it over the top

 Lor:

 dude, that exhaust is terrible. maybe you shoulda got an emissions check

 lol

Mace:

 snork!

 Sammy in that white tshirt

 Lor:

 YES

 and then sleepy Dean

 Mace:

 YES

 Dean is not happy that the plate checks out

 Lor:

 NOPE

 but when Sammy says drive faster he does

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 he might clench his jaw a little, but he does

 Mace:

 poor tiger is worried about his little brother

and pissed that he's worried

which seems like a very Dean thing

 Lor:

 YES

 loooots of meta feelings on that boy

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

 he should meditate

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

 I volunteer to show him how

 Mace:

 poor Sammy needs cuddles

 You take the meditation and I'll take the cuddle job

 Lor:

 DONE

 Mace:

 we have excellent triage skills

 Lor:

 we DO

 "I'm not looking at you like anything"

 OMG

 Mace:

 THE PRIEST OUTFITS YAAAASSSS

 Lor:

 YAAAAAAAS

 FATHER SIMMONS

 Mace:

 BLESS ME SAMMY I HAVE SINNED

 Lor:

 SNORK

 Sammy burning his fingers on the cup

 Mace:

 YES

 Dean and the sausages

 Lor:

 DEAN WITH THE SNACKS ON STICKS

 Mace:

 SUCH A GOOF

 Lor:

 YAAAAAAS

 Mace:

 HAHAHA YAS

 I love her sweater

 (I also want some of those sausages)

 Lor:

 lolol

 he is way too dang cute in that outfit

 Mace:

 omg the lip lick followed by the teeth biting the lip

 Lor:

 YAS

 Mace:

 cute. yes...cute. that's exactly the word I'd use...

 Lor:

 lolololololol

 Mace:

 this guy who plays the son is so good

 Lor:

 (look, I may or may not be censoring myself about a comment about how you could haul him around real nice by that collar)

 HE IS

 Mace:

 (ded)

 Lor:

 (lol)

 Dean WInchester what IS that and how did you have it inside your priest suit?

 Mace:

 snork!

 i love the bracelet

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 the boy can accessorize

 Lor:

 he and I need to have a little talk about why he stops wearing the jewelry

 Mace:

 Ugh, I hate guns but so help me the sight of Dean Winchester cleaning 'em sends me places

 Lor:

 this casual competence with the gun-cleaning nnnngggg

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 Mace:

 YES

 Mace:

 and it's always Dean and never Sam, which I love and find super interesting

 Lor:

 oooo, YES

 Mace:

 oh no, not the window scene SHUDDER

 Lor:

 right?

  nopenopenope with the lock undoing itself NOPE

 Mace:

 what sort of idiot actually sticks his head out the window after that?!?!

Just...NOPE

I mean, COME ON DUDE

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 Mace:

 omg Dean not wanting Sammy to hurl in Baby

 Lor:

 oh Dean. being all brotherly but pretending it's because he cares (more) about Baby

 YES

 Mace:

 and then Dean saying that it'll be alright which is more to reassure himself than Sammy

 Lor:

 YES

 DEAN YOU LIAR

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

 omg the way they climb that wall and then the fence

 Mace:

 YES

 Look boys, if Roger is dumb enough to stick his head out that clearly-haunted window, you just gotta let go and let god

 Lor:

 HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

 Dean has a handkerchief in his pocket. I have died

 Mace:

 HAHAHA YES

 Lor:

 "you're... dark"

Oh Dean

 Mace:

 HAAAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 THE PRIEST SUITS AGAIN AM DED ONCE MORE

 Lor:

 it doesn't say I'm sorry, it says "you probably aren't up to cooking and we want to be sure you're fed"

  LOLOL

 Mace:

 exactly

 food = comfort, so in my book it's a perfectly good way to reach out to those grieving

 Lor:

 agreed

 OMG taking the collar off

 Mace:

 YASYASYAS

 I love this twist to the story

sad and smart

 Lor:

 yeah

 Mace:

 the look on Dean's face = evidence that John's abuse was sometimes physical COME AT ME

 Lor:

 YEP

you will NOT convince me that John did not hit Dean. there's too much evidence in the way Jensen plays it

 Mace:

 YEP and I also don't think he hit Sammy and I also think Dean never told Sammy

 Lor:

 YEP

 Mace:

 the way this kid is both angry but agonized is so good

 Lor:

 YES

 and the twist on the "humans are monsters" cause the parents and uncle ARE monsters and then Max kind of is too but not because he's awful but because he's traumatized

 Mace:

 OPE here it is - Dean's arguing that they kill a human because he acts like a monster

 YES

 Lor:

 YEP

 god Sammy needs to become the therapist to the hunting community

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 Sam holding Dean back

 Mace:

 YES

 he is SO good at this

 Lor:

 he REALLY is

 Mace:

 okay I need an AU where they run a foster home because Sammy's so good at the therapy and Dean is so excellent with kiddos

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 And Cas teaches them beekeeping and meditation in the backyard

 Lor:

 YES I was gonna say Cas is just SO good at listening with complete acceptance and interest

 Mace:

 YES

 seriously, this kid is in my top 5 1-ep side character actors in 15 seasons

 Lor:

 this would be a very different conversation with Dean

 YES

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

 he is SO GOOD

 Mace:

 oh poor Sam

 Lor:

 yeah

 not in that particular instant, John wasn't drunk

 Mace:

 ooof yeah

 Lor:

 the way Sam and Dean are both chosen ones but for different sides

 Mace:

 yes and how they both react differently and both differently from this kid

 Lor:

 YES

 the way Sam is trying to get Max to break the cycle of trauma here

when Sam and Dean kind of LIVE INSIDE the cycle of trauma themselves

 Mace:

 having Sam as a little brother who needed his care made Dean become Dean instead of this kid hello and welcome to my Ted Talk

 yeah

 Lor:

 ooo, yeah

 Mace:

 omg Dean's "son of a..."

 Lor:

 YES

 sneeeeaky

 Mace:

 ugh I know it isn't real but that killing Dean gets me every time

 Lor:

 yeah

 like some of the ones in Mystery Spot are just awful

 Mace:

 yep

 Lor:

 (and some of them are hilarious. the piano, I’m sorry, hilarious)

 Mace:

 (hahaha YES)

 Lor:

 oooooof

 Mace:

 yeah, this is kind of awful

but in a good way

 I really like this episode

 Lor:

 yeah, it's a really good story and examines stuff well

 Mace:

 yes

 omg the exasperation on this cop's face

 Lor:

 yeah

 Mace:

 because empathy in a cop isn't important

 Lor:

 snork

 Mace:

 oh no, Dean, you NEVER torture yourself

 Lor:

 nope

 "we're lucky we had Dad"

 Mace:

 "we're lucky we had dad" OMG

 Lor:

 and Dean's face

 Mace:

 that had to hurt Dean

 Lor:

 YEP

 Mace:

 SAMMY, HE DID HAVE MAX'S CHILDHOOD YOU DUMMY

 Lor:

 "all things considered" the THINGS ARE DEAN SAMMY

 Lor:

 YOU didn't have that childhood

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

 Right?

 Lor:

 "oh jeez what?" poor Dean just wants a burger and a nap

 Mace:

 SNORK! YEP

 i love that shirt on Sam

 Lor:

 HAAAAHAHAHAH I was just thinking that about Dean

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 but yes, Sammy and his little snaps is very nice

 "one advantage Max didn't have... me"

JUST LIKE ALWAYS SAMMY

 Mace:

 sigh Dean is Sammy's Dumbledore

 Yeah, make your jokes, Dean Winchester - you're scared

 Lor:

 ooof, Dean, covering up how worried he is with the jokes

 Lor:

 SNORK yep

 [after the episode ended:]

 Lor:

 okay, now, splain Dumblydore to me?

 Mace:

 that scene in the first movie when Hermione tells Harry that as long as Dumbledore is there, he can't be touched

 Lor:

 (though I DO suspect Dean would be delighted with a lovely pair of socks for Christmas)

 Lor:

 Aaaaah

 Mace:

 (but then of course Dumbledore leaves because he's the biggest flake)

 Lor:

 (yeah. or a scheming schemer)

(I always sort of figured Dumbledore was gone so long then because he wanted Harry to have the confrontation)

 Mace:

 that's so much worse, honestly. Dumbledore is such an ass

 Lor:

 yyyyep

 so maybe Dumbledore is JOHN

 Mace:

 maybe!

 i think that makes Bobby a redneck McGonagall

 Lor:

 oooo

I like it

 the one who does all the ACTUAL parenting and ACTUALLY knows what's going on and thinks maybe children should be CHILDREN instead of pawns in your magic war with shit you should have dealt with in the past. yep. Bobby's McGonagall

 Mace:

 Yep

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Bloody Mary

Welcome to “Why is Truth or Dare Even a Thing?!: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e5: Bloody Mary.

Sam and Dean find themselves trying to clean up after some teen-girl Bloody-Mary slumber-party nonsense, because of course Mary is real and so are the liquified eyeballs she leaves behind. Sam has Winchester Guilt and faces up to the man in the mirror. Both boys accumulate 600 years of bad luck.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

pre-emptively gets behind the couch

 Mace:

snork! YEP

Mace:

I NEVER understood this logic. I mean, WHY say it? Just...WHY

 Lor:

RIGHT?

OR you could be a father who has any idea what your twelve year old and her friends are up to?

 Mace:

HA

 Lor:

what is this house with its lights that do not light things?

 Mace:

Right?

 Lor:

ooof, poor Sam

 Mace:

poor Sammy and the bad dreams

Lor:

"sooner or later we're gonna have to talk about this" WHAT WAS THAT, DEAN? WHAT?

 Mace:

HAHAHA

the theme this ep seems to be People Doing Things in Dark Rooms When There Are Perfectly Good Electricity Going to Waste

 Lor:

lololololololololol

 Mace:

DEAN WINCHESTER JUST SAID COLUMBUS

 Lor:

lolololol he did

 Lor:

"I'm gonna hit him in his face, I swear"

 "dude I earned that money" "you won it in a poker game" "yeah"

pets him I know you work hard, Dean

 Mace:

i mean technically that counts as work

 Lor:

it DOES

 Lor:

was that a HOSPITAL? hospitals are lit up like the sun

 Mace:

well so is the OUTSIDE generally, and yet here we are

 Lor:

lololololol

yeah

 Mace:

They're taking this particular filter a little too far, really

 Lor:

yer right, though, it does nice things to the freckles

 Mace:

it does

 Lor:

"your dad didn't say it, did he?" I love him

 Mace:

Dean telling the girl it's not her fault when he knows it is

total sweetheart

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

HE JUST TURNED THE LIGHT ON AND IT GOT DARKER IN THERE I SWEAR

 Lor:

Lolololololol

 "we had to go to the bathroom" lolololol

 Mace:

snork!

 Sammy's hoodie zipped up all the way SIGH

 Lor:

YES

and Dean's slightly floofed hair

 Mace:

YES

I LOVE it when they go to a library

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

Jill is a dumbdumb

 Lor:

ug, this girl needs to get better friends

 Mace:

we all have that one friend

it's inevitable

 Lor:

Yeah

 "because I'm an awesome brother"

"lollipops and candy canes" omg

 Mace:

YES

 Lor:

He looks awful nice sitting there with that book on his lap

 Mace:

he does

 aw, Sammy has his soft voice on I LOVE IT

 Lor:

YES

 the old sneaking hunters into the house through the window trick

 Mace:

if I had a nickel...

 Lor:

LOL

 "do I look like Paris Hilton?" DEAN

 Mace:

Paris Hilton, Dean? Oh honey

DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF?

 Lor:

he either does NOT or he really really DOES

 Mace:

AGREED

Where's an angel to tell him he looks hotter than Paris any day of the week when you need him

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

look how big his eyes look there

cripes

 Lor:

RIGHT?

and that stupid blue glow on his beautiful dumb face

 Mace:

YES

mirrors are a true reflection of your soul...I love this with Dean and his relationship with mirrors throughout

 Lor:

YES

i love how sam and dean communicate with looks like that

 Mace:

YEP

yes, why WOULD you do that

cripes

 Lor:

REALLY needs to get better friends

 Mace:

she DOES

okay I don't get this part - she didn't say it so why is it after her?

 Lor:

cause she was there? I guess? I dunno. it went after the dad when he didn’t' say it either

 Mace:

oh right HA!

I'm so smart

 Lor:

Lololol

 Lor:

THE ANTENNAE WITH THE TEETH

 Mace:

YES

 there's that soft voice again

 Lor:

YES

does this girl not have parents? she's in high school and she has two grown dudes just hopping in and out of her bedroom

 Mace:

how is she not a puddle on the floor?!

HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

a very good question

oh. this is their hotel room. EVEN BETTER

 Mace:

snork!

 Lor:

Dean's reaction. the way he kind of pulls back just a little when she says the dude threatened to kill himself

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

Dean's not about blaming her, bless him

 Mace:

YES

 "she'll come after me" oh SAMMY

 Lor:

stand by. he's about to brother

 Mace:

SNORK!!

 Lor:

oh Dean "blame me instead" jeeez

 lol Dean's ears got in on that eyebrow raise

 Mace:

HA

ugh I get SO much more nervous for them when cops are involved than when monsters are

 Lor:

YES

omg Dean's head tilt at the name

 Mace:

HAHAHA Dean's bluff game really improves over the years

 Lor:

it really does

 Mace:

oooo evil mirror Sam

NICE

 Lor:

"like I said, I was adopted"

YES

 that's a nice unintentional foreshadow of some later stuff

 Mace:

OH RIGHT the reveal of Sammy's dreams! I forgot that was here

 Lor:

yeah

"Sammy!" "It's Sam" oh, my boys

 Mace:

Yeah, you're never gonna win that one, Sammy

 Lor:

oh NOPE

gah I forgot she CLIMBS OUT OF THE MIRROR

 Mace:

CREEPY

 Lor:

behind the couch behind the couch behind the couch

 Mace:

UGH and the jerky movements THANKS I HATE IT

 Lor:

WHY DO DEAN'S EYES BLEED

what is his secret?

 Mace:

if Dean's breathing he's feeling guilty about something

 Lor:

HA! true

 Mace:

but lookit how SMART he is showing her the mirror

pats him

 Lor:

YES

such a wee genius

"this has gotta be like, what, 600 years bad luck" DO NOT TEMPT THE FATES LIKE THAT, DEAN WINCHESTER

 Mace:

"600 years of bad luck" and how many times in the show does he say that they just can't catch a break?

 Lor:

right?

 they should write that down and tape it to each other's foreheads

 Mace:

the least believable part of this episode? That Charley never got caught just staring at those two boys

Lor:

lol

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Lor:

they get better at making it look like they are driving the car past actual things

 Mace:

Ha

 [after the episode ended:]

 Lor:

Dean is more willing to let Sam do things in these early episodes than I would expect/remember

no hissy fit when Sam wants to summon Mary bc she'll go after him?

 Mace:

yeah that's a good point

when does he turn completely mental about protecting Sam?

 Lor:

is it when Sam starts having the premonitions and the headaches?

 Mace:

is it once John whispers to him that me may have to kill Sam?

 Lor:

or not till after he dies the first time?

ooo, maybe then

we shall have to make note

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

but I wonder if there's an element of "it's just ghosties" here. like, when they start to realize just how big everything is that they are going to be dealing with, maybe things change?

 Mace:

maybe

which would, then, be when John whispers to him...

 Lor:

yeah

[watchingspnagain]

Welcome to Lor and Mace’s Pretty Good Supernatural Rewatch Blog!

We’ll introduce ourselves in our next post, but here’s a quick rundown of what we’re doing here.

Lor and Mace have both seen all of SPN once all the way through, and we’ve both seen some of it more than once. Now we're rewatching from the beginning, mostly because neither of us like the thought of a world in which we're not regularly visiting the world of Sam and Dean, but also because we decided that we wanted to make some sort of record of the Thoughts and Feelings and Ideas we have about the show.

We watch in sync (from several hundred miles apart) and message each other our thoughts in real time. For each episode of the show, we’ll be sharing the log of that real-time chat (lightly edited for clarity), usually with some follow-up chat and occasionally with longer discussion of individual aspects of an episode written by one or both of us.

Please feel free to ignore, lurk, reblog, or engage with us as you like. Be kind, please. We are 100% here for thoughtful, critical discussion and encourage gentle, informed dissent but won’t engage if you’re being a jerk. Our asks are open. While we will sometimes be critical of the show, we also love it to itty-bitty bits. We hope to be mostly a positive space. We’re pro-Dean, pro-Sam, pro-Cas, pro-shipping, pro-show.

The blog will be teeming with spoilers, certainly for the episode in question and often for the whole show. The nature of our conversations will be adult and thus they may contain adult language and themes. We will tag each post with #watchingspnagain and #watchingspnagain with the episode number (i.e. #watchingspnagain 1x01). We’ll also try to tag for trigger warnings in our discussions and other things that seem relevant to each post.

Here’s some topics we’re likely to come back to again and again:

Hunters as outsiders

Liminal spaces and marginalization

Set-dec with regards to class

Trauma in the creation of hunters

Dean’s jokes that reveal what he means to conceal

Dean’s sexuality

The way Sam and Dean’s different childhoods inform their lives

Sam’s changing desires regarding “a normal life”

The morphing of the show from “Sam’s story” to “Dean’s story”

What it means to be Winchester "fine"

Destiel

Dean’s freckles

Sam’s hair

CAS