#wasting votes on third parties

[visenyaism]

if i find out you voted for jill stein i am nottttttt trading you any of my cigarettes in state prison camp

[beddybites]

reminder during this very intense and scary election to step away and distract urself when needbe and to communicate when you need a moment. this is a very stressful time and ik as an american im also freaked the hell out but its good to have context and a better understanding of how things work otherwise id be losing my damn mind every second. i like to discuss it and work through it but not everyones the same way and thats ok. if u need space tell ur loved ones what ur thinking and going through and take the space needed. if u need a distraction ask for a distraction. be safe tonight and be kind to yourself. u are deserving of it

[thatdemiboymess]

My mom called me when she found out about the Trump assassination attempt and before hanging up the call she asked me to just...please be more careful. Proposed that maybe I should chill out with the pride pins and all, considering the political environment at the moment, just with how things are, ya know? But I can't. Not now. Shit is so fucked.

[intelligentchristianlady]

Food for Thought

You don't like trump, but you don't like Harris either. Or you just can't vote for a Democrat. Or you don't like her position on A, B, or C.

It is a fact that either he or she will win the election.

Voting for, or writing in the name of, a third-party candidate may make you feel righteous and superior, but think about which of the two you would rather see in charge of the nuclear codes. Because one of them will be.

Vote for that one.

[froyocorps]

"if u voted for kamala u voted for all her policies including palestines genocide" IF I LOSE MY FUCKING RIGHTS WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT PALESTINIANS.

[nyano64]

Just a reminder that a vote for no one is a vote for the opposition

[eruhamster]

I feel like voteblue people have such insular lives. Because they always treat democrat war crimes as some kind of thing that happens to an 'other.'

I know it's largely racist white people who aren't recent immigrants, but it just makes me wonder.

You know your life could just as easily be ruined by an American war campaign, right? Without a draft.

If you have family, even distant family, who live in another country. If you scrounge enough money to ever go abroad on a vacation. If you have an online friend who lives in a different country than you.

It could be you. It could be yourself, stranded with the US embassy refusing to save you. It could be your family under rubble. It could be your friend, murdered by your own taxpayer dollars.

There is nothing special about Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, Syria, etc that makes it specifically bombable. If politics in a region you have any connections to takes a wrong turn, that region would end up just the same.

The US war machine is indiscriminate. You will not find peace from fascism by voting for fascists. Politicians have continued to move right and have continued to strip us of our freedoms. The Democratic playbook is centered on making you think the other is worse, and yet the creation of the DHS and ICE were bipartisan, and the ACA was a Republican plan.

They promise things will get better if you vote Democrat enough, but Obama was at least four full months of a supermajority, but after promising to codeify Roe v Wade his first day in office and having the Freedom of Choice act introduced to Congress, he simply 'put it on the backburner.' Instead, he was the first US president to extrajudicially kill Americans. He did this with a drone strike, murdering Samir Khan and Anwar al-Awlaki. Al-Awlaki's sixteen year old son, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, was killed the same way days later. In Yemen. In a country we were not at war with.

Even when they promise it, even when they have the means to fulfill that promise, even when that promise is sitting right in front of them, Democrats will not act. Because they only care that they use that boogeyman of "Republicans" as a carrot on a stick for votes. And the worse Republicans get, the better it makes them look, the less they have to reign themselves in on actions that would be unfanthomable to even a Republican 20 years ago - Biden has done less to reign in Israel than Bush, Nixon, or Reagan, our three worst presidents.

Things will never get better because a democrat is in office. Things won't even stop getting worse.

But it could be you, who's life is ruined by an American bomb.

It could be you.

[aquariumgirls]

god i do not know what to do when november inevitably comes around. i am going to HAVE to vote. my parents will nake me, but i don't want to vote for trump OR biden. jesus

[gaybd1]

Holy shit every time I see video of Joe Biden I get so concerned, like that man looks confused even walking into a room??

Nothing to be ashamed of, people age, but propping this guy up as president for four more years as he gets even older? Fuck

[hypernixation]

saying this as a guy who will be voting for the first time in november . does voting for a third party candidate actually help anything or is it a lost cause

[scrambledpancakes03]

I was 17 in 2020. I'm 21 now.

With Kamala/Walz going up DAILY, I've seen more people talking about voting third party/Jill Stein (EW) and I believe the above screencaps from @three--rings can explain WHY Third Party votes NEVER work NOR is this the election to screw around in.

Everyone....like she says above.....PLEASE LEARN FROM HISTORY!!!

(Because if Trump gets in, he's NEVER LEAVING).

[theuncomfortablyexcited]

There are almost no politicians who haven’t been corrupt or complacent in something. But when you are faced with the choice of two people and one actively says they are progenocide, they are loudly racist, against LGBTQIA+ rights, against bodily autonomy, against women’s rights, has been convicted of multiple crimes, insights violence, etc. YOU VOTE FOR THE OTHER OPTION.

You motherfuckers yes I hate Kamala too but when she is announced to be the Democratic candidate we are all going to shoot fireworks and go to the goddamn polls

[gamer-comix]

gamer comix I will vote for you in the US presidential election tomorrow. I hope you win

something something voting gamer-comix is the same as cheating on your husband

[scientia-rex]

When I was in ninth grade I wanted to challenge what I saw as a very stupid dress code policy (not being allowed to wear spikes regardless of the size or sharpness of the spikes). My dad said to me, “What is your objective?”

He said it over and over. I contemplated that. I wanted to change an unfair dress code. What did I stand to gain? What did I stand to lose? If what I really wanted was to change the dress code, what would be my most effective potential approach? (He also gave me Discourses on the Fall of Rome by Titus Livius, Machiavelli’s magnum opus. Of course he’d already given me The Prince, Five Rings, and The Art of War.)

I ultimately printed out that phrase, coated it in Mod Podge, and clipped it to my bathroom mirror so I would look at it and think about it every day.

What is your objective?

Forget about how you feel. Ask yourself, what do you want to see happen? And then ask, how can you make it happen? Who needs to agree with you? Who has the power to implement this change? What are the points where you have leverage over them? If you use that leverage now, will you impair your ability to use it in the future? Getting what you want is about effectiveness. It is not about being an alpha or a sigma or whatever other bullshit the men’s right whiners are on about now. You won’t find any MRA talking points in Musashi, because they are not relevant.

I had no clear leverage on the dress code issue. My parents were not on the PTA; neither were any of my friend’s parents who liked me. The teachers did not care about this. Ultimately I just wore what I wanted, my patent leather collar from Hot Topic with large but flattened spikes, and I had guessed correctly—the teachers also did not care enough to discipline me.

I often see people on tumblr, mostly the very young, flail around in discourse. They don’t have an objective. They don’t know what they want to achieve, and they have never thought about strategizing and interpersonal effectiveness. No one can get everything they want by being an asshole. You must be able to work with other people, and that includes smiling when you hate them.

Read Machiavelli. Start with The Prince, but then move on to Discourses. Read Musashi’s Five Rings. Read The Art of War. They’re classics for a reason. They can’t cover all situations, but they can do more for how you think about strategizing than anything you’re getting in middle school and high school curricula.

Don’t vote third party unless you can tell me not only what your objective is but also why this action stands a meaningful chance of accomplishing it. Otherwise, back up and approach your strategy from a new angle. I don’t care how angry you are with Biden right now. He knows about it, and he is both trying to do something and not doing enough. I care about what will happen to millions of people if we have another Trump presidency. Look up Ross Perot, and learn from our past. Find your objective. If it is to stop the genocide in Palestine now, call your elected representatives now. They don’t care about emails; they care about phone calls, because they live in the past. I know this because I shadowed a lobbyist, because knowing how power works is critical to using it.

How do you think I have gotten two clinics to start including gender care in their planning?

Start small. Chip away. Keep working. Find your leverage; figure out how and when to effectively use it. Choose your battles, so that you can concentrate on the battle at hand instead of wasting your resources in many directions. Learn from the accumulated wisdom of people who spent their lives learning by doing, by making mistakes, by watching the mistakes of their enemies.

Don’t be a dickhead. Be smarter than I was at 14. Ask yourself: what is your objective?

[urbeastprime]

tags from @abtheb

^ These were also my thoughts lol

Vote for which Friend is most likely to vote/be a Republican in your eyes