#vyvanse is too expensive

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[koukoupepia]

i feel like “dont drink caffeine within a few hours of taking adderall” shouldve been obvious to me but then i learned adhd meds will often make you feel calm but if you drink coffee w/ your adderall it feels like this 

[imsopopfly]

This is fucking bullshit and the people causing this shit should be ashamed.

Also I get that OP is joking but please do not resort to meth. illegal drugs, being illegal, are super unregulated and there’s no safe way of figuring out dosage or even knowing what all is in them. That shit can kill you. I admit vyvanse is horrible for me too and I’d never take it but like. If you can’t get your meds try really strong coffee first. It won’t work perfectly but it is a stimulant and can help the first few weeks of being off the meds be a whole lot less weird. Starbucks doubleshot espresso has been my go to for the times when my pharmacy has screwed up and made me wait a week or two for my meds. Again it’s not perfect but it’s a hell of a lot safer and definitely keeps me from feeling like a sleepy disoriented stoner zombie.

Vynase not worth it. Stick to meth.

[lifeafterpsychiatry]

I have ADHD and i did take ritalin and concerta and now I'm taking Vyvase, but I know very little about the differences, would you mind explaining them a bit? I never found a side by side comparison on Google and I'm interested :)

Like I'm not a doctor or a pharmacist so this is based entirely on personal experience but like... Ritalin is a fast release drug whereas both Vyvanse and Concerta are slow release drugs. This leads to the most notable differences. Ritalin hits a bit harder but it doesn't work for long, meaning that you have to take Ritalin approximately three times a day to maintain the effect. This was hard for people with ADHD who aren't exactly known for remembering their meds, which led to slow release meds like Vyvanse and Concerta which releases the drug slowly so that one dose maintains the effect for approximately 12 hours. Nowadays you'll usually get prescribed Concerta first cause Ritalin is considered easier to abuse and Vyvanse is quite expensive. But then if Concerta doesn't work for you, you'll likely be asked to try Vyvanse and then only if that doesn't work either, you might get to try Ritalin or Adderall. The main differences between Vyvanse and Concerta is that Vyvanse mostly just results in dopamine whereas Concerta also affects noradrenaline (too lazy to look up the spelling) which means that a Vyvanse high is more intensely euphoric whereas a Concerta high is likely to give you a boost of physical energy/restlessness on top of a milder dopamine high because it affects more brain chemicals than Vyvanse does. Also in my experience it takes Vyvanse longer to fully leave your system when you take a high dose which means it's more likely to mess with things like your sleep and your appetite and Vyvanse is generally a "heavier" med than Concerta which means you get more effect out of less mgs. This is probably also part of the reason why Concerta is currently the go to treatment for ADHD where I live.

[theybothknow]

Life is hard and I need help

I just got booted off my dad’s health insurance due to turning 26 last month, and I have crazy high medical bills and prescription costs. Work has cut my hours due to the pandemic and my second job is on hold because the cases in my state are so high they’re not able to open. My last paycheck went entirely to  rent and my car insurance so I’m thoroughly screwed for the next two weeks. 

I already made the decision to go off my Vyvanse and Rexulti because they’re simply too expensive, but I need to pick up a refill of my testosterone by the end of the week and I won’t be able to afford it, even with the GoodRx coupon.

I also have a medical bill from my last doctor appointment that needs to be paid by the 9th.  

Literally anything would help. I hate having to do this, it’s literally so embarrassing but I just don’t know what else to do. 

https://paypal.me/ajbeil

Venmo: @AJBeil94

Thanks for taking the time to read this :)

[naamahdarling]

All around update:

Stink Man Smooch is still having breathing issues. I noticed last night his breath was labored again. I can't hear any snap, crackle, pop in his lungs, so it hasn't moved down, which is good. A URI isn't a big deal, but in a brachy cat it can hit them harder than in others. I'm calling the vet Monday unless he looks in danger tomorrow, which is VERY unlikely. He will be fine, we just have to root this shit out.

Turd Boy Etrigan seems to be doing way better on his special easy digestion high fiber food.

I am rocky. The Vyvanse was giving me chest tightness which is no bueno, so I'm on a starting dose of methylphenidate, and that seems to not be as effective as the Vyvanse was at this dose. My chest is okay so far. I'll finish this month's supply and up the dose next time and see if we can get good results without the chest issues.

Have an appointment to see my cardio in December but if I start having really scary symptoms they have a dedicated cardio urgent care at his facility which takes walk ins so that is AWESOME and if I need help with this I can get it fast without catching COVID as well as dying of it because of the wait in an ER.

Emotionally I'm just. Not. But like, is anyone right now besides utter bastards in denial about the state of things? I can't do a lick of creative work and that is breaking my heart.

Financially we are struggling. We also need to get together at least 5k to take care of the carpet in this house which are in such bad shape from the cats. We need hard flkirs I can clean. Carpet is disgusting and filthy and my ex wanted it because his feet "got cold" and carpet is "cozy." It's filthy. And now, because of the state it is in, I have daily suicidal ideation. It cannot be salvaged. It has to go. The cost is...monumental.

I don't know how to address this AND address the monthly struggling to meet basic needs. Food expenses have shot up because we are both too ill right now to cook, let alone shop to get ingredients, so it's fast food nearly every day, but that is also unhealthy, and unsustainable long term. I just don't know what to do about that either.

Meanwhile, I have lived here since 2008 and still have cardboard over my bedroom window and plain white paint with one ugly green wall because I finished painting the living room and the master bedroom (which became the ex's room when I stopped being able to tolerate sleeping in a bed with a very active, loud sleeper with RLS) by myself, and ran out of energy before doing my bedroom which was intended to be a spare room and not my bedroom, and, well, it wasn't a priority for both of us, just one; he didn't sleep in this bedroom, only me. It's miserable and depressing.

We could get help to do it, but I can't I just can't let anyone in here when we have so much cat mess in the dining area. I'm tired, and improving anything requires so much effort. The "pick one thing a day" approach just...does not work for us.

I don't know how to fix any of this. I'm tired. I could run a fundraiser I guess, but it's an incredibly high goal for something that is hard to sell as "critical", which it is. Maybe getting more granular with finance people at flooring stores will give us some payment plan with down payment options and we can fundraise from there. Payment plan. Pffff. We don't have that. We are running at a deficit already. But it's all I can think of. There are no assistance programs here that cover floors or heavy house cleaning. We're on the hook for this ourselves. Jesus.

I will keep going because what else can I do? I love my girl, my cats need me, life is a beautiful thing and I adore being here on this world with so many beautiful people. Even if only 1% of them were good, that's still so many. Still worth loving us as a species, loving people, for. And it's way more than 1%. So I will stay, of course, until I am materially evicted from this mortal coil by forces outside my control because I refuse to cede my place in the world when I have already survived so much sadness and emptiness and things seem like they really might get better.

I don't have answers. We need help. It won't happen. We stagger on.

[successfullyadhd]

im 31, and after over a decade of trying to figure out what is wrong with me, my therapist and I are finally thinking it’s ADHD. i’ve had a gut feeling about it for a while and every ADHD post is relatable. now the problem is finding an place that does adult assessments and is affordable (no insurance). do you have any tips on going through the assessment as an adult? and if i can’t afford it, and can’t get medication. how do i ever become the productive focused person i want to be? thanks.

Sorry in advance for the long post... I put the most relevant bits in bold for a TL;DR version.

 I know getting diagnosed as an adult can seem daunting, but you shouldn’t worry too much. While ADHD was once viewed as something that only affected children, it is now widely recognized as a lifelong disorder and you shouldn’t have to fear being dismissed because you weren’t diagnosed early in life. It’s extremely helpful that you have been seeing a therapist, and they also think you have ADHD. Ask them to send over their notes when you do go to the doctor.

As for how to get diagnosed - I’ll start by saying I hate the way American healthcare is set up, as medication and healthcare in general are expensive. I have to move frequently for me and my husband’s jobs (we both work in hospitality, and as the saying goes, “You have to move out to move up!”). Because most (all?) ADHD medications are a Schedule II drug (highly regulated but still legal), I have to get rediagnosed in every new state. I always bring my past history, but most doctors want to complete testing as they are monitored for prescribing stimulants and can lose their license if found to be providing this medication without ample documentation. (All of this to say - I have been through the procedure many times as an adult.) Depending on the state, some doctors also require bloodwork and an EKG to ensure you are healthy enough to receive the medication (although some will accept past test results if done recently enough.) Also depending on the state and doctor, they may have additional requirements. In Florida, my doctor wanted a multitude of tests, and asked for a sleep study to ensure the medication wasn’t causing poor sleep. In California, as part of the Kaiser HMO system, I was required to do periodic drug tests to ensure I wasn’t also using street drugs, and to check that the Adderall was in my system (as a test that I was using it as prescribed, and not selling it). Some states are much easier – Utah, Alabama and West Virginia all were able to diagnose me in one appointment and prescribed the medication same day. Last, a General Practitioner won’t typically prescribe it and will direct you to a psychiatrist. Even if you did have insurance, most don’t cover psychiatrists or if they do, it comes with a different deductible (because obviously mental health isn’t part of regular health (heavy sarcasm)). After diagnosing, you have to meet with the doctor once a month to get the prescription refilled – due to the Schedule II status, they can’t have it on an auto-refill like other medications and they need to ensure you aren’t abusing it or having negative side effects. (although the one good thing to come out of COVID is that it normalized tele-health appointments, since an in-person meeting with a doctor once a month can be difficult to schedule). Even though I have health insurance, I typically pay out of pocket $120 a month for my visit with the doctor, and after insurance and a coupon I pay $73 for two medications (Adderall & Vyvanse). I’m fortunate now to be able to afford that expense – at the times in my life where I couldn’t, I would request a 30 day supply of the more affordable pills and only take medication on days where I couldn’t function without it (such as doing large amounts of paperwork) and try to use learned behavior techniques the rest of the time, to stretch out my resources.

As far as what goes into the actual diagnosis – doctors most commonly use a questionnaire about your daily life to assess you. Here is a link to commonly-used questionnaires: https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-assessments-and-tests/.

I know I just made it seem very daunting to get diagnosed and on a medication, but I want to be honest with you about what the process looks like, and again, depending on where you live it can be done in one session. Now that is out of the way, let me give you some information that is more helpful:

If you can, skip asking a regular GP for a referral and make an appointment directly with a psychiatrist. This will save you the extra cost of the doctor’s appointment, just to be told someone else will help. Many places have low cost mental health centers and ADHD falls into that realm, so I would check out what is available in your city. Before making an appointment, confirm the following:

-          Do they diagnose ADHD?

-          Do they prescribe medication? (Therapists don’t prescribe, only psychiatrists, and some will not prescribe ADHD medication at all so it’s important to be clear that it is your intention to receive medication if diagnosed)

-          What tests do they require for diagnosing, and prescribing medication? (Some places may have more or less requirements, and it can even vary within a city or state. This way you will know if it’s something you can afford at the time.)

Talk with the doctor about your specific situation, and what medications are affordable without insurance. Adderall, for example, is past the 10 year exclusive patent and now has a generic version available. It comes in quick release and slow release, depending on your needs. You can also talk to the doctor about a prescription to both quick and slow release, so you take the correct medicine based on your needs for that day (marathon work day? Slow release that extends over the entire day. Afternoon project – quick release that lasts for four hours). Vyvanse is great but doesn’t have a generic version and is insanely expensive without insurance (to the tune of $350+). Use the GoodRX app to find deals on medication without insurance (Adderall is about $15 for a month supply with this app). There are a ton of drug options so look up the pricing during the doctor’s visit, so you can confirm that you can afford what they prescribe. Also keep in mind that getting a prescription filled is the same cost whether you get 1 pill or 30 (a fact I learned the hard way when getting a 10 pill prescription filled once.)

 If you read all that and thought, Thanks but no thanks, here are some other options:

-          My psychiatrist in Florida recommended that I take Rhodiola Rosea supplements in addition to medication, as it has clinically proven positive effects on ADHD symptom control. I found it on Amazon. Omega-3 fatty acid supplements are also proven effective.

-          If you’re interested in this sort of thing, here is a super comprehensive study of various dietary supplements and behavior modifications that work or don’t work for ADHD: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4968082/

-          Practicing meditation is a great way to relax your body (increased stress, while helpful for short-term tasks, can make ADHD symptoms worse long term) and train your mind to hold onto singular, important thoughts (people’s names, why you walked into the kitchen, etc). I use the Waking Up app and love it – there are also many free options in the App Store and on YouTube.

-          Regular exercise is another great way to manage ADHD symptoms, as it gives your body a natural serotonin and dopamine boost, two important chemicals your body has trouble producing and absorbing naturally.

-          Caffeine is a great, easily accessible stimulant that has a focusing and calming effect on ADHD individuals. My doctor actually asked my parents to give me coffee each morning before school when I was a child, before we moved onto prescriptions.

-          Often, there are other factors that go along with ADHD, such as anxiety and/or depression. Getting this under control can go a long way in managing ADHD as well. I’m not sure if you have any issues with those, but it can be helpful to treat both if you do. The medication Wellbutrin is used to treat depression and also has mild stimulants, which would be helpful for both conditions. It isn’t a Schedule II drug, so you can probably ask your doctor for a 3 or 6 month prescription.

-          There are a ton more mind hacks and learned behavioral mechanisms you can try – read some of my other posts for suggestions.

Of course, I have to give the legal disclaimer – all of this is based on my personal experience, I’m not licensed in the medical field in any way and only a doctor can give you proper advice for your body and situation, and what medications will be most helpful. 😊

[daofeibutdead]

I don't have a psychiatrist though a nurse prescribes the meds for everyone in my family and it's getting expensive bc there's something wrong with literally everyone way too many now that everyone is getting meds lately. -_- my brother and mom are on wellbutrin too we are twins aww <3 my mom's taking xanax idk how much that costs but she never gets it refilled anyway goddamn my dad had to switch from vyvanse which worked well to adderall bc couldn't afford it and now my sister is on adhd meds too and she wasn't supposed to be on a stimulant bc she has tourette's and tics get worse on stimulants but the only thing she can get bc insurance is a stimulant 💔

[quinintheclouds]

Documenting ADHD meds to look back on :)

First day of concerta! I definitely see what they mean by "slowly releasing more and more dopamine throughout the day." I mean, my adderall xr did that too but differently. That was more "it kicks in and lasts a while then tapers off," whereas concerta so far is more "it kicks in and then builds up more" (idk how/when it ends yet though; the day's not over!)

Notable differences (subject to change cause it's still day one):

I didn't/haven't gotten as tired as I did by this time of day (4pm) as I did with Adderall, which is good cause I hated being tired as soon as I'm done with work. Still possibly a little of that trademark Stimulant Sleepy though?

I noticed the dopamine multiple times throughout the day so far and it felt nice :)

Neither has made me a zombie but Concerta hasn't made me as...idk if I understand what it is but I think I like it better... It could just be bc my brain isn't used to it yet and then it'll fade once I take it for awhile like adderall did

Appetite has not been as severely suppressed as I'd expected. Didn't have breakfast bc of time but I had half a sandwich for lunch and I'm gonna eat the rest now so I'm not repulsed by the idea of eating like I sometimes am with Adderall. Definitely still less appetite than without meds

Both cause similar amounts of facial tics (for me it's blinking/winking and scrunching my nose to the side)

I have increased energy compared to no meds, but it's not the restless energy I sometimes get with adderall/no meds.

I am noticing a headache as I write this. I was warned about those...

We shall see! I really hope concerta works well for me because vyvanse got too expensive and adderall started having less of an effect

[terefah]

Hello, I was just wondering if you had any tips on remembering to take meds? I’m on vyvanse but it’s way to expensive so I need to switch back to dex but I always forget to take the second dose. Hope you have a lovely week!

maybe you could set an alarm on your phone? 💞 hope you have a good week too!

[imminentpoodles-sims]

PSA

If you are on any longterm and/or relatively expensive medication, and its brand name:

Check for free manufacturer discounts!

For example, two of my medications do not have generics. Dexilant (PPI) and Vyvanse (ADHD).

Even with insurance, a 90-day supply of Dexilant can cost me up to $600. The Dexilant company has a discount code that brings that down to as little as $86, sometimes more or less, but its always below $90.

A 30-day supply of Vyvanse, with insurance, costs me $60. Their manufacturer savings card brought it down to $30 yesterday!

These savings are not a substitute for insurance, and some discounts require you to have insurance to determine the new co-pay. Some discounts have to be renewed every month, too. 

But it doesn’t hurt to check for discounts and coupons so you’re not spending an arm and a leg for daily medication. Talk to your doctor or pharmacist! They work with insurance companies and don’t want you to go broke for this.

Also check with your pharmacist to see if generic or brand name is cheaper through insurance. It might require a call to your doctor if they didn’t mark if the medication can be interchangeable.

Hope this helps!

(PS: this is for the United States healthcare system... I don’t know if this advice would apply elsewhere.)

[starry-eyed-forest-witch]

ADHD MED PSA

I was prescribed Vyvanse by my psych, but it was $308/mo AFTER my insurance

But turns out the pharmaceutical company, Shire, totally has an assistance program. They're covering the entire cost for me. They have some other medications, too, but I don't know what they are all for. I just know I'm super excited to try a longer lasting med than generic of IR Adderall (which already was expensive for me at $60/mo).

Link to program to pass it on: https://www.shire.com/patients/patient-services/shire-cares

[romanvelvet]

I am so fucking angry, I have to vent a minute

so my psychiatrist is pretty alright, she’s helped us get on good medications; sometimes she forgets to include prescriptions, which is irritating but hey everyone is human, even though I’ve literally never had that happen with any doctor before, buuuut

anyway, her office staff is atrocious. They’ve always been mediocre but they’re getting worse the more patients this doctor takes on. They even have a second office and they’re still awful.

SO this week I needed to call to get my husband’s medication filled, and also my pharmacy was having trouble getting one of mine filled because the insurance was being fucky. They called yesterday afternoon (before my therapist closed, mind you) and presumably talked to someone or left a message to get it sorted out.

I called on Tuesday for my husband’s refill- SIX CALLS around 3:00 PM (they close at 5) and nobody answered. I left a message with all the details they would have needed to fill it. It’s now Friday and I haven’t heard anything back, I’m out of my medication entirely, and I finally got through today on the EIGHTH CALL and was still put on hold for SEVEN MINUTES. 

AND FUCKING THEN

my records apparently didn’t show my Vyvanse prescription. That I literally took the last of this morning. How did I get it if I wasn’t on that medication? Poor record keeping, another strike against them.

UPDATE:  my pharmacy says they need prior authorization on my vyvanse, not that they don’t have it in their system. So now I’m on hold with my doctor again to tell them they need prior auth on both those medications. This has never happened before, which isn’t necessarily my doctor’s fault, but now I’m on hold again. 5 minutes so far.

And dis bitch gets bitchy with me, like, “don’t you take adderall??” Yes, I take both. Vyvanse in the morning and Adderall booster in the afternoon. That’s what I’ve been taking. For years. From this same doctor. Dumbass. 

So she puts it into the system and I told her I left a message on Tuesday and called 6 times, she said “we didn’t have any messages.” well then your system is broken bitch, sort it out. 

This office has been dicking me and my husband around for a while, but it’s gotten significantly worse in the last year. She’s started having nurse practitioners help, which is fine, but I think she really needs to stop taking on new patients because they can’t take care of the ones they already have.

ALSO, something that’s always bothered me about her, is she always tries out the newest (expensive) medication that medication companies send representatives for. I’ve seen reps in the waiting room with briefcases multiple times, something I’ve never seen at any other doctor’s office. Anytime we need a change in medication, she insists we try whatever the newest flavor of the month is in the psych drug world, and seems to do it with all her patients. That makes me uncomfortable, like she’s been bought and paid for by drug companies. That’s always been something she’s done, for the several years I’ve seen her. 

Needless to say, we’ve tolerated this shit for too long and have appointments with a new doctor at the start of October. fuck this. 

[idkimnotreal]

clonazepam 9/10 (strong high, helps fall asleep, but nasty brain zaps in the morning. usually they go away with ritalin though)

ritalin short release 7/10 (has an euphoria initial effect that only lasts 30 minutes and is too noticeable and addictive, and also gives you muscle twitches whenever you take more than usual dosage)

ritalin LA 8/10 (euphoria effect is weaker but lasts 1+ hour, kicks in again after 4 hours, lasts for 1 hour again, all while maintaining the so promised focus + crystal clear thoughts)

adderall ?/10 (outlawed in brazil)

vyvanse ?/10 (will buy when i become a programmer and have a high income, it’s a bit more expensive than ritalin, like extra 7 cans of beer)

weed 5/10 (couldn’t feel it, maybe it was bad weed, and i always smoke it with alcohol)

alcohol 10/10 (so fucking nice, like sex and i’m a virgin, makes everything nice, hangovers suck so much and i hate peeing like a faucet but it’s like life is fun on alcohol and i could keep this up forever and let’s go to downtown and look at the lights and hope the sun never rises again)

porn dopamine 69/10 (hard to catch because i have a narrow taste, but when i do, OH my GOD, alcohol isn’t even close, like singularity level brain hack)

[cruisechaser-blassty]

there's a lot that drives me insane about the american healthcare system, but a fun (derogatory) one is checking my claims history to see how much my insurance actually pays for my prescriptions and the answer is usually "too fucking much."

nine generic relpax pills? $260

vyvanse? $340

maybe the one that upsets me more than it should? 90 day supply of the (recently made generic!) viibryd:

nearly $900 billed, insurance only paid $85 (and i paid nothing because that's how my plan works). how can the pharmacy even attempt to bill that high? nightmarish

anyway if i had to stop taking any of these it would significantly worsen my quality of life, which makes it feel extra gross, like, "this is how expensive it is to be alive :)"

just one fun look at why we need comprehensive universal healthcare right now

[ddonggeun]

Hey! So I’m suspecting if I got adhd/add but is there any symptom idk. It’s really exp here to get it diagnosed

sorry it took me a while to get back to you because honestly i dont know whats a good alternative for you can be so i guess i can share my own experience? 

first of all i think googling symptoms and types of adhd and reading peoples account on how adhd/add manifest is a good start? my doctor and the reddit /r/adhd REALLY help me to accept myself (which is the first step i think) but the way i get diagnosis (i am adhd with predominately inattentiveness - but at the same time i have depressions and dyslexia which is like a killer combo 10/10 would never rec) is that i came across with an article a couple months about how girls with adhd are more likely to be (mis)diagnosed with depression and it basically fucks up multiple generations because they cant get the help they need and i was like wait whats describe in it sounds kind of like me but at the same time i have always been very lethargic and rather well behaved in class growing up i am nothing like what you would typically associate with adhd (you know the hyper-activeness) so during my next visit to the doctor (im getting treatment for my depression) i mention to the article to her and she said wait you know what describe how you feel in a classroom setting growing up and is there anything you do that teachers complain about repeatedly and tell me how studying and doing homework is like to you and so i did (i can go further into details of my life since a lot contributes to why i only get diagnosis when im 21… let me know if you would like to know i guess?)

my doctor (who just so happens to be an adhd specialist and is quite active in the research area i didnt know before then we stan forever i love her really she is so encouraging and so good at her job) took some notes as i was talking and after im done she said you know what i think you might be onto something but i cant be sure yet (since i have depression and dyslexia which both overlaps quite a lot with adhd/add) why dont i first explain to you what adhd is and i’ll give you the set of official diagnosis questions you dont have to do it just take a look at it first do some research organize your thought talk to your parents about it and if you think getting a test on it is something you want we can set up another appointment and we can go from there - which is really really nice because adhd has always been a taboo at least with my upbringing it makes you a loser socially academically and you know just in general its not something you will want to have…. 

in hind sight there are SO MANY SIGNS even in early childhood how come no one notice i dont know prolly because i grew up in the 00s if you are different you need to kys lmao rip: 

trouble paying attention in school or work,

the appearance of not listening - although im an audio learner funny enough

avoidance of activities that require sustained focus,

being easily distracted 

restlessness

fidgeting and cant sit properly - i shake my legs or click my pen so much especially when im thinking or anxious lmao, i got into trouble a lot when i was younger because i only sit in my seat facnig the teacher 5 mins max at at ime then i move around or i move the chair around i think better when i cross my legs but i went to a uniform school and i always make my skirt too short so you know

interrupting - if i dont say what comes to mind when it comes to mind, the thought is gone forever

frequent talking and talking way too fast - i get the exact same comment every single report day class from when i was 4 till i graduated high school im not even kidding “she has excellent comprehension skill and reading speed. it would be great if parents can help her out a bit in maths or chemistry.  she has a lot of potential if she applies herself, she seems distracted although when we ask her questions she can answer. very helpful and bubbly and yet she talks too much in class. she is not disruptive and her seatmate never complains but she just doesnt stop talking. we have been pairing her up with quiet students in class in the hopes that she will talk less in class but she just turn the quiet student talkative”

trying to do multiple things at once - i cant do one thing at a time, even when im say writing a paper i need to be listening to music or talking to someone if not switching between tabs or word files

mood swings

hyperfocus - oh boy oh boy oh boy

impulsiveness - i dont know if i get better as i age or is it getting worse i just know how to clean up my mess lmaooooo

poor time management - although i would say ever since i start listening to stuff 24/7 it really helps build a sense of the passage of time or whatever? its like now i know ok by the time i get to the third song in the shower i need to be washing out my conditioner; or say i need to go somewhere in 40 mins which is really abstract to me i set timers and put on a show thats 35ish mins even tho im not watching it just so im aware of time is actually happening if it makes sense

fail to follow through - i start things and once i have it figure out in my head i struggle to put it down in words or explain it to others i work well with other adhd peps tho

doesnt follow instruction and only do stuff their way

burnout - this is the worst especially if you are a perfectionist or a control freak and guess who is both 

trouble coping with stress - 

i luck out because im canadian and my doctor (in my schools clinic) just so happens to be a specialist who is very passionate about helping undergrads and grad school students to achieve as much as they can - so doctor and diagnosis for me is free. i do have to pay for my medications out of my pocket for a bit since im on vyvanse (to treat both my adhd and depression-lead anxiety its complicated but it makes sense when my doctor explained it to me lol) and this drug isnt covered by Pharmacare (CAD $130ish for 3 weeks worth of 30mg, im mostly on 30mg but on days when i dont have work on stuff or go to school i take 20mg just so my anxiety dont cause me to explode lmao) and very expensive but recently my doctor and i have agreed that vyvanse really work for me and it is something that i should be on daily for the foreseeable future we applied for special authorization which means i only gotta pay the tax… of course medicating isnt a must but it is what works for me and we figure out a way to make it affordable so i cant be more happy about that

at the same time i work with my psychiatrist to you know configure the whole adhd thing cause you know 21 years of repressing and forcing your feet into a shoes that not even your size frick you up thats something people dont tell you 🤷🏻‍♀️

what my doctor said to me then stuck with me - she told me adhd or add really is no monster or flaw in fact it is a very valuable set of traits we inherit from our ancestor - we hate it now because modern society render these skills useless well you see adhd isnt all about the hyperactiveness you see in the media people with adhd are extra sensitive to their surrounding and prefer hands on experiences (today we call them distracted) they are always aware of the change around them and is capable to attend to a couple things at a time and act fast because their brains are always making sense of things even when they arent consciously doing it. in todays society we dont want these kind of people why? because they ask questions they are curious people who notice trivial stuff that dont contribute to productivity they cant sit still which makes them not the ideal factor workers or pupils BUT! you have to remember that industrialization started like a century ish ago before that our ancestors live in predominately tribal society - adhd people then are the perfect caretakers and protectors, why? because they are always noticing things they adapt and react fast… so yeah it kinda suck for us growing up in a system thats designed to be everything we are and it is something that need to be changed but for those of us who “made it out alive” especially people who only get diagnosed in adulthood more often than not they look back and realize they have developed so many incredible ways to cope to make things work - are they always the perfect way? are they always health? no definitely no but at the same time it shows you how incredible these people are they make things work yes things are really hard sometimes but you got to give yourself a pet in the shoulder for not giving up… with the help of science and research we now know a little more about how adhd affect people we now have medication and programs developed to help people with adhd - they arent to dumb you down or numb you but instead it helps you to focus better so you can actually hear your entire thought and not just phrases or sentence fragments