#viserys and rhaenyra
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horizon-verizon · 2 years ago
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One of the most mysoginistic takes in reddit about Rhaenyra:
"He should have named Aegon heir the day he was born and raised him to be a proper king. Rhaenyra was still young enough that she would have eventually gotten over it and Daemon was still away at war away from his influence. I think she would have understood eventually as well.
Let’s not forget Rhaenyra was content with eating cake and flying around her dragon, it wasn’t until Viserys thrust the prophecy on her out of guilt for Aemma and spite for Daemon that she then took it serious.
Even when she is pleading to Viserys in episode 8 she even admits being heir has been a major burden upon her life." So Aegon should be raised a proper king just because he has a cock. Rhaenyra, being a woman, should be content with eating cake.
Show!Rhaenyra is already a watered down, rewritten version of her canon self, who anticvipated ascending since she was 8 and never questioned it herself. She  says and affirms that the throne is her birthright and dismisses her brother’s claims.
This moment/episode is a huge reason why I detest both this show and think this episode is the worst one aside from 9 and 10. It has the most misogynist writing of the season, where it totally removes Rhaenyra’s quick action, firmness, agency and dignity to make Viserys seem more of a savior when it really was not necessary.
Why can’t Rhaenyra have retained her desire for the throne? For power? For safety for her kids?!
So again, that user knows nothing and obviously never read the book or read it carefully. And you don’t even need to read it “carefully” to know this about canon Rhaenyra--it oozes whenever we get mention of her and her actions. So It’s better to say “fairly” and with an actual brain.
This part in particular:
it wasn’t until Viserys thrust the prophecy on her out of guilt for Aemma and spite for Daemon that she then took it serious.
Viserys didn’t just “spite” Daemon, he seriously believed that Daemon would destroy his legacy and invite ruin to the house. He also continues to keep Rhaenyra as his heir despite his sons not just because he’s guilty over Aemma (even with such a tragedy and his part in it, the passing years will give him other reasons and time to think Rhaenyra fit and good for the position, aside from him putting his eggs in the proverbial basket).
She always took it seriously! Going back to episode 2, with Rhaenyra choosing a guardsman. Her logic for choosing Criston Cole was that real experience more than a man's lineage and status was more useful and needed to protect herself and her father when Otto was the one to want basically anyone else and a person w/o said military experience! Cole at least fought in Dorne/the Stormlands. She also had an argument with Rhaenys about the lords accepting her in the same episode, which shows that drive and desire that I hoped for--even if that scene didn't make sense for what we would expect from Rhaenys since in the canon lore, there was never a hint of such divide or contention between these women, and they rather worked together. Rhaenys comforted Rhaenyra after Luke's death and was the one to suggest they all burn down the greens for Rhaenyra's sake. Apart from that, out of all the cousins Rhaenyra could have, Rhaenys was the one to not only support her as a woman for the throne if she couldn't get it-- especially a family member, a fellow Targ (to bring on house pride and lineage).
Why the fuck does this user think that rapist, drunken Aegon the Elder would be a better ruler than Rhaenyra, or a better candidate? Because Aegon has a dick and they have no creativity or put value into anything that goes out of their own sense of social order and overall immediate convenience, that’s all.
(Let’s just move along with the show for a minute AND use an argument one of those green stans/Rhaenyra haters use) Rhaenyra has been forced to marry for duty and for her father’s advancement, by his orders. She has also lost her mother and struggles with having to bear children and never being taken seriously or occupying the same spaces as the men around her. You’d think that this would invite some sympathy or at least the grace of observation, not censure. But noooo.
And this:
Rhaenyra was still young enough that she would have eventually gotten over it and Daemon was still away at war away from his influence. I think she would have understood eventually as well.
So Rhaenyra is meant to take the idea of her being passed over as “just how it be” because she is female? Bow her head and accept everyone’s assessment that she is inherently or inevitably “not right” for the throne because she is female? 
Aegon the Uncrowned refused to give up when Maegor took it, why should Rhaenyra feel like she should? He was ridiculed even by his past supporters for “allowing” Maegor to take his birthright. And yet, no one in the fandom from what I’ve seen has said the same of him the way they do Rhaenyra, or it is not nearly as common to see things like this for him.
Aerea Targaryen anticipated becoming a Queen. 
Alysanne openly criticized Jaehaerys’ misogyny and refusals to name their daughter Daenerys and their granddaughter Rhaenys as his heirs.
This user just wants patriarchy, not real peace and harmony. Fuck them.
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artnoonewants · 7 months ago
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Poor delusional Viserys 😔
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fshfish · 6 months ago
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house of the dragon x the unequal marriage (vasili pukirev)
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aemondwive · 5 months ago
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The way EVERYONE was happy about Joffrey's birth... baby Joff you will always be loved!
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blackvoidspace · 5 months ago
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Rhaenyra is so proud of showing little Viss and Aegon to her father... and then there's Daemon hoping Viserys forgets how babies are made.
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Daemon: đŸ˜¶đŸ˜ŸđŸ˜©
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houseofyax · 3 months ago
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The Casting BTS ✹
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aramblingjay · 5 months ago
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#if i had a nickel... HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 1x04 // 2x08
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lesbianelsas · 5 months ago
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alicent + using viserys as a proxy
Is it the King's command? Yes, but it n- - Then at once, Your Grace. But it needn't be. None of this needs be this way in truth, Rhaenyra.
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jeyneofpoole · 6 months ago
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bastard witch of indeterminate age: did you like my. potion. 😝
15 year old niecewife in my ear: ooooooh daemon you wanted to fuck your brother sooo bad but the closest thing you could get was me and you don’t even like who you made me be sucks to suck you fucking idiot
second wife who incinerated herself and our unborn child in front of me: i’m also here
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miss-carter · 6 months ago
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Rhaenyra Targaryen with Prince Joffrey, Prince Viserys II and Prince Aegon III HOUSE OF THE DRAGON S02E03 | Geeta Vasant Patel
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gameofthronesdaily · 7 months ago
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Rhaenyra with her sons, Prince Aegon the Younger and Prince Viserys House of the Dragon | 2.02 "Rhaenyra the Cruel"
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horizon-verizon · 2 years ago
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Do you think HOTD Viserys ever truly realized why Rhaenyra was upset by his marriage to Alicent? Or the distress that it caused both Alicent and Rhaenyra? I think he must have some idea by Ep 6 when Rhaenyra leaves the Red Keep. I interpret the scene with Aemma's ring as him grieving his relationship with his daughter as irreparably broken, which I think must have been compounded by Daemon's rejection at Laena's funeral. His brother and daughter felt utterly abandoned and have given up trying to win his love. I think those final six years must have been very lonely.
I agree that his final years were lonely, but I'm not entirely sure he realizes that he himself had a huge hand in ruining the one relationship Rhaenyra had (apart from Daemon) that she counted on for comfort and security. We don't get any scene showing us his reacting to Alicent before Aemma dies or him seeing Rhaenyra interact with Alicent, so we don't even know if he ever truly knew how close they got. From the first episode, we see that he doesn't spend time with Rhaenyra as much as he does in the book pre-marriage and pre-Alicent, even if that is just Rhaenyra sitting with him at council and in public feasts.
I'm still angry with the jump cuts, esp the one before episode 6. Our questions could have been cleared or given rise to more philosophical or deeper political ones if we had gotten more intimate scenes that proved or revealed what type and dynamic of relationships each character had with whatever other character aside from Daemyra. We glom to Daemyra because that is truly one of the only relationships that in the context make sense...until episode 10 that is. Aside from the crazy good chemistry and the signiificance of Daemon supporting Rhaenyra when no one else would.
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ophelieverse · 7 months ago
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when my girl talks,you listen to her!
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prideprejudce · 5 months ago
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people will always blame alicent and rhaenyra or even daemon for sparking the start of the civil war but at the end of the day it will always come back to viserys and his cowardly decisions. as soon as he allowed himself to be bullied to remarry and to have more kids again, he officially sewed the seeds together for future conflict after his death no matter who he married. like if he had married laena instead of alicent and had sons with her, would the outcome have been so different? do you think rhaenys and corlys would have stood on the sidelines and watched their grandson get passed over? especially after rhaenyra had illegitimate sons that weren't even laenors? that they wouldn't have petitioned their own dance? the snake will always eat its own tail for power, and viserys doomed rhaenyra to her death with his own
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bbygirl-aemond · 7 months ago
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i love how aegon was like "i'm gonna break the generational cycle of my dad ignoring me by being the best dad to jaehaerys ever" and instead he actually just continued viserys's original generational cycle of ignoring daughters in favors of sons and now one day aegon's going to look at jaehaera when she's the only thing he has left and maybe then he will finally understand why viserys treated rhaenyra with such guilt
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prophicc · 2 months ago
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5 sons of rhaenyra targaryen
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