#vincigender

[imoga-pride]

I'm gender apathetic and thought about using vincian to express my attraction but it seems more exclusive, are there any similar inclusive terms? I'm gay for guys

veldian/turian is inclusive enough, I think. there's also floric, virsic/virsian, magnian, casian, cinthean, gayan, virescin, hyacean/hyacique, and uranian. see also some other terms

vincian was also coined as an alternate term to achillean (MLM) (see discussion). once a wiki used it excluding non-binary people, suggesting they could only use toric (NLM), andro- or viramoric.

if you feel more comfortable using vincian, go ahead. gender apathetic vincians are valid af. o/

I recommend checking turiagender/veldiagender.

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

I always question myself the same, since "gay" in my first language does not apply to women and is a single word that does not need to mention man, this is epicene in English. I see people feeling neutral with gayguy and gaydude labels, but some people not.

The word homić kinda seemed a neolabel but then I found it means gay man in Serbo-Croatian. Homo means man or human, however hom(o)- prefix means same, homic mixes both things into one. Curiously Finnish has a word called homomies, -mies meaning men.

Uranien (Uranian or Ouranian) used to mean homosexual males, not sure it applies. Viranian would be better specific since vir- has to do with m-gender. Check apollian/apollonian, achillean and vincian.

While that's not monolexically what you want, achillegender (apolliagender or vinciagender) describes this identity experience, similar to orientationgender but not the same.

And there was a term called virescin, the coiner asked people to stop using it, but I find it cool and useful for situations like this, describing being gay for men while not essentially being man. It could be virescian alluding vincian.

I hope this helps. Followers can help - Ap

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

-ap

Sapphogender & Achille/Vinciagender

Simply put: Someone who is sapphogender or achillegender is a nonbinary person who feels in some way that they are a wlw or mlm respectively, but who otherwise feels no attachments or alignment to femaleness/maleness and/or masculinity/femininity. The only way they can feel male/female(-aligned/adjacent/etc.) or masculine/feminine is through attraction to the same or similar genders.

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Sapphogender - A nblw and wlw person who only experiences femaleness or anything of the like through their attraction to women & people of femme/female-aligned genders. This person may be nonaligned or other-aligned, but they DO NOT feel any attachments to womanhood outside of this specific attraction. (They may also be attracted to men or other nbs.) This term can be coupled with any other gender identities that fit the label user as well; there may be specific terms the label user feels describes the female/fem-aligned aspect of their identity together with this term, as well as the rest of their identity outside of female/feminine alignment (for example, a sapphogender lunarian, who is otherwise an unaligned agender person).

Flag meaning:

The middle three stripes are the colors of the sapphic flag, while the outer purple stripes represent the otherwise non-female/feminine identity of the label user.

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Achille/Vinciagender - A nblm and mlm person who only experiences maleness or anything of the like through their attraction to men & people of masc/male-aligned genders. This person may be nonaligned or other-aligned, but they DO NOT feel any attachments to manhood outside of this specific attraction. They may also be attracted to women or other nbs. This term can be coupled with any other gender identities that fit the label user as well; there may be specific terms the label user feels describes the male/male-aligned aspect of their identity together with this term, as well as the rest of their identity outside of male alignment (for example, an achillegender demiboy, who is otherwise genderfae).

Flag meaning:

The middle three stripes are the colors of the achillean flag, while the outer purple stripes represent the otherwise non-male/masculine identity of the label user.

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Also Note: These are related to, though not the same as sapphic- and achillean/vinciangender (when a sapphic or achillean/vincian person feels that their orientation is so intrinsically tied to their gender that they absolutely cannot separate the two; see: orientationgender).

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[momma-mogai-sphinx]

im both sappho and vincigender but not attrafluid. do you know how could I coin a term for it?

So would you say you're kymenian nonbinary, but your attraction to women always feels sapphic and your attraction to men always feels vincian? Your gender never changes but is marginally affected by how your attraction to men & women always feels symmaic. Is that right?

If you already have an idea for the term and definition and would like to make your own flag for it, you could submit it like this:

[label] - being both sapphogender and vinciagender, but not fluid between them; duosexual, kymenian SapphoVinciagender

If you can't or don't want to make the flag yourself, you could send in another ask with the term, definition, and request.

And if you need help with naming it, you could go with a portmanteau (Saviagender, Vinsapphogender/Vincogender). Or you could use the juvelic poudrettian (Poudrettigender); although that might imply attrifluidity, since Julerigender is attrafluid.