#villain4villain

[kiara66]

I love evil people finding other evil people and finding that common ground. Characters truly becoming themselves when around other morally fucked up people because they know they won't be judged or ridiculed.

It's so good man

[xehanortsreport]

i may not be a xehaqus shipper but i DO think they're funny as exes and even moreso when you throw xigbraig into the mix. like there's just something hilarious about your ex moving on to someone more obnoxious and yet somehow having a better relationship.

i'm not the kind of person who writes exes as people to demonize in order to prop up the current relationship, so eraqus is 100% correct in thinking xigbraig is a bad influence in AUs where he's like. around to see it. but he did not take into account that they are in a villain4villain relationship and xehanort doesn't care--

[redstonedust]

big fan of ships where both characters are bad people and would be terrible for anybody else but somehow it just cancels out and theyre Functional. like villain4villain relationships. incredible every time.

[nopes-and-dreams-and-nightmares]

dark personality sounds like some unscientific bullshit but let’s make this into a villain4villain shipping art meme

[lamortwrites]

5, 6, and 11 for the new Durgetash asks!

answering these asks, thank you!

5. If, by some twist of fate, you’d be stuck in a room with these two, what would you do? What would they do? Would anybody leave that room unhurt? Oh, both know you’re responsible for creating Durge the way they are btw.

oh, I'm dead. zero question. even if neither of them know who I am, unless I happen to have something that Gortash needs me alive for (which I def don't lol, esp the me from this universe) the only outcome from being stuck in a room w Gortash and Labrys for anyone is death. if I'm lucky, maybe I'll get a threesome out of it first, but even then Labrys will still kill me either during or directly after

6. What’s the most wholesome hc you have for them? Something they did, a particular approach at bonding, just them being disgustingly soft once? Some good old hand in hand vivisection?

answered here and here, but I have actually been thinking about them most of the day so I'll add:

there's a comfort and a surety in mutual dislike that doesn't exist in spaces of positive emotion. these are two incredibly selfish individuals who have nothing but each other to rely on in this world (and, honestly, whether they even do rely on each other is mostly up for debate) -- were they the types to put stock in liking or trusting each other, their alliance would have fallen apart within a few months of meeting. it's the antagonism and the power struggle that they can each rely on, the knowledge that the other does not and will not care for them beyond what they can get out of it.

when you like someone, there is an instinct to soften the rougher edges of yourself, to make yourself more palatable -- more likely for them to like, in return. even amongst friends who like you for who you are there is often still a temptation to show only the best sides of yourself: if I show how ugly my face is, will they still want to look upon it? if I lash out with intent to hurt, will they decide I am no longer worth the effort? if I let them see me as anything less than perfect, will they still think I have anything to offer them?

for Gortash and Labrys -- and, indeed, for most villain4villain couples -- the ugliness is the point. they make each other worse because they want to see each other worse, want to push and push so that they can prove that they are justified in the dislike and disdain that, somewhere along the line, evens out into an uneasy mutual respect. there is a sense of safety that comes with knowing that someone has seen the worst of you and yet still chooses you over anyone else, time and time again, something that cannot be matched by petty feelings such as liking each other.

11. Sceleritas my beloved, how exactly does he fit in there?

answered here!

[clementine-kesh]

Clementine Kesh/The Borg Queen (I have never seen Star Trek)

incredible pairing. while it would be awesome for them to hatefuck i think both of their egos are way too huge for them ever to move past the monologuing stage of the villain4villain relationship. the borg queen would try to assimilate clem and clem would do some perennial wave bullshit at her. it would be two evil girlboss space warlocks casting spells at each other forever. i would love to see it

[sunandfall-elf]

im sapphic t4t transfemme but like. in a villain4villain way. Help me move religious texts to the non fiction section of the library. Pronounce the starbucks barista's name wrong with me. Ask for extra pickles and I will eat them all.

[reckless-glitch]

I really hate when villains pull their punches because their creator wants them to be likable enough to get with the protag

I just want real villain4villain

I want them to make each other worse

[girlscarpia]

Didn't have Scarpia x Di Luna villain4villain one sided attraction crossover ship in my 2024 bingo but we're off to great start

[kariachi]

Who wants more villain4villain Levinstar fic? This time the Tennysons pov on the whole team-up.

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The Tennyson cousins were learning quickly that by far the worst combo to deal with was Kevin and Darkstar.

They hoped, at first, that like most of the other team-ups their enemies had this would be a one and done deal. Charmcaster and Hex hardly ever showed up together anymore. The Negative Ten, never again. Kevin and Vilgax’s partnership, though terrifying, had been brief. So as much as having an ambush by Kevin suddenly take a turn when Darkstar showed up to drag away Gwen’s attention- leaving both Tennysons more vulnerable, it had been luck more than anything they’d managed to drive them off- there’d been no reason to believe it would happen again. They’d been beaten, Darkstar was proud and not known to work with others before then, and Kevin was short-tempered and considered unlikely to give to give somebody a second chance. Of course, as with so many others, it would only take the one defeat to split them apart. The cousins would be able to breathe easy.

At least until they arrived at a robbery to find Darkstar there and been blindsided partway through the fight by Kevin putting Ben through a wall. It was an unprecedented event, for a team-up to continue like this without a prior history- and god had they searched for any hints of a prior history in hopes of finding some sort of leg up- and they’d been completely unprepared. They were thankfully quick learners, and had realized by the third encounter that if they just saw one they should be prepared for the other. Unfortunately, their enemy was also too fucking smart and too fucking stubborn and as soon as they realized they’d figured out the game they didn’t give up like the heroes were used to. No, they changed tactics.

They would gang up on one when they were alone. They would each target their own Tennyson in separate locations at the same time. They would target each other’s targets at the same time (and that had been a shocker). Traps were laid. Fake-outs were used to make them paranoid- which the bastards openly found hilarious. Sometimes they would take a few days to lick their wounds, sometimes it would be weeks on end. And each time the Tennysons would win, but only just.

The problem was that Kevin was incredibly dangerous- he was smarter than he seemed, too powerful and versatile, and he didn’t let up- and Darkstar wasn’t that much better- smart, powerful, and able to feed off them at range if he got any opening. Alone they had been enough to give the Tennysons their fair share of trouble, but together? And when they only got better at fighting side-by-side?

Worse still, while initial attempts at getting them fighting each other had worked like a charm- not driven them apart, because the universe hated the cousins apparently, but cost the pair fights- it had stopped working after a point. The sniping back and forth had just become part of their banter, because the two had needed banter apparently, and after a point the Tennyson had been hit with the realization that things had developed there. Unfortunate, unholy things. Probably they should’ve guessed around the time the two started defending each other’s honor, but no, it had been after an unfortunate and unnecessary encounter that had left them swearing not to barge in anywhere ever again, no matter what they thought the fuckers inside might be up to. Some things you didn’t need to see.

So not only were they dealing with a persistent threat that was more than happy to play mind games as well and cause massive destruction, but they were also being dealt constant psychological damage by the knowledge of just how unlikely it was looking they would be able to get things back to normal without serious fallout. Nobody on the planet wanted to see what a Kevin scorned looked like.

Was it any wonder then that Gwen decided to go remote and wait until she and her cousin could rent a place together, rather than go off to college on her own?

[saltcherry]

I made this blog so no would know about my incurable Intermittently Caring About Star Wars disease but since it is actually incurable, I have to weigh in and say that Andor definitely slaps as a stand-alone work of fiction and also MY take on the “2 autistic fascists with sexual tension” is that, it would be cool if they fuck, I love a nice villain4villain plot, but come on, has everyone forgotten that Dedra already has a hypercompetent devoted weirdo male assistant and that the emotional and interpersonal threads that should be developed are about like, competition and worth and fervor in the context of having a professional and sublimated-sexual rival? imo. Dedra doesn’t really need Obsessive Former Corporate Security Failed-Mission Fuckup because she already has Obsessive Lackey! so just how obsessive and devoted to The Cause does he need to be to get her to need him?

Star Wars, esp. in the 21st century, is really at its best when the men characters are WILDLY incompetent at managing their sexual anxieties.

[fanyeline]

For Fem!wenzhou week on twitter, a few days late but here are the girls... wen kexing and zhou zishu as sailor moon villain4villain ueueue

[verycharismaticdragon]

This is just sad so let me try. Yin Hanjiang:

One half of a canon villain4villain couple (they're the main characters tbc, they're just also from demonic sect and murderous)

Right hand man full of homoerotic loyalty towards his boss

His whole thing is being his crush's boss' sword

Also he can physically turn his body into a bunch of swords

Once someone tried to convince his boss to stop fighting by telling him to "put down his sword" (this was like. a psychic attack to be clear), but his boss heard YHJ calling for him, snapped out of it, and was like "Put down my sword? Why don't you ask first if my sword is willing?"

Also after his boss takes notice of him he makes him a new special sword out of a piece of his own soul. This is before there was romantic relationship, to be clear.

The reason his boss takes notice of him btw is that he learns that in alt timeline where he died YHJ went crazy and hunted a girl responsible for sport, trying to make her soul into a lamp that would guide him (the boss) in the afterlife.

Tbc the boss is super impressed by this. He's like wow! didnt know he's so loyal! and look how he improved so he could continue hunting her for sport 🥺 what a guy! cant believe i wasnt paying attention to him before!..

They're insane okay and I love them so much. There's more but I'm not spoiling it. Vote YHJ!

And/or read devil venerable 🖤

Sword gays showdown, round 1 of bracket one

Propaganda:

For Di Feisheng:

First off there's literally a bit where he's being nice to the evil lady who is obsessed with him and then one of her lackeys goes "miss, this is kinda suspicious he's never been interested in women before I think he's planning something" and he's got the most homoerotic relationship with like his ex and his ex's new bf. ALSO as for his swordiness, he names his sword "sword" because he doesn't see the point in naming a sword but he's also overprotective af over it and like has to be bribed to show it off to other people because they're not worthy to see it

My man had one goal and that was to become the #1 swordsmaster in the land. And then he does!! but then decides his sole aim over the entire course of the show is to fight the (now retired and dying) former #1 with whom he has intense gay divorced vibes. He literally is the strongest dude in the place who could probably take over the throne and be the Villain the world thinks he is but no. He is too busy roadtripping and trying to heal his husband so they can have their promised swordfight. His sword is named "sword". He's the most sword gay of all sword gays. He also has a very unique blade that's explained in amazing detail here

For Yin Hanjiang:

You've heard of gays who studied the sword now get ready for the gay who IS the sword.

Yin Hanjiang was fished out of a mass grave by the head of a demonic sect, and developed homoerotic loyalty towards the man, becoming his sword. He seems emotionless and calm, but he will go murderously feral if something were to happen to his Venerable (aforementioned head of demonic sect, Wenren E). Learning this caused Wenren E to look at his subordinate in a new light, eventually leading to them getting together. Also various fun moments like "if you want me to put down my sword, why don't you ask first if my sword is willing?"

[ramonahblog]

That awkward moment when you create two characters for the whole purpose of making them bullies in your WIP fanfic. But accidentally made their friendship/found family strong as fuck and now I’m attached to these awful characters. 

They’re just assholes. But damn would they die for each other.  They would steal your most prized possession and then timeshare the shit out of it. Or just split it in half if it’s something you can split in half. 

Platonic Villain4Villain. 

[winepresswrath]

A thing I do like about WoH fandom is that the leads are very charming and fun and the whole fandom seems to ship them, but also they're just genuinely pretty terrible people. There's no discourse about this that I have been exposed to, presumably because the entire fandom is busy picking them up and cooing "now kiss" before mashing their faces together.