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vigilskeep · 1 month ago

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as a big fan of you Viago Posting I gotta ask, how do you think Viago feels/reacts to the news of Rook de Riva romancing each of the various companions? I feel like the guy would absolutely have Opinions on all of them lol

i keep receiving asks addressed like this as though i am some kind of Viago Whisperer, which i find both funny and an intimidating task. nevertheless i shall do my best.

i don’t think he would react well to any of the options here, but that’s not necessarily damning, because viago does not react well to basically anything. roughly in order from Least Viago Stress to Most Viago Stress:

1) emmrich seems, in banters with lucanis, to have been emboldened by lucanis’ confirmation that viago posssesses a rosseletto painting and gone on to actually discuss art with viago himself. (lucanis later lets emmrich know from viago that a painting he ordered for vorgoth’s benefit has come in.) emmrich is a man of culture with a very respectable necrotic damage specialisation. he comes from a politically powerful organisation that can defend itself, yet is not personally ambitious in a way likely to drag house de riva into trouble or use rook for his own ends. sure i think viago would make a little fuss about the age gap because he’s judgemental like that but i don’t think there would be much passion behind it

2) bellara’s bubbling questions and excitable nature would be personally a bit startling and maybe slightly grating to viago but i’m keeping her pretty high up because i think lucanis is right and that viago would eat up her knowledge about taste profiles for his usual Nefarious Purposes. once he realises she genuinely is asking questions about house de riva proprietary poisoning tactics for writing research, of all things, i think we can get these fantasy scientists chatting and then she’d charm him against his will.

3) taash’s general bluntness would startle viago even more. their interactions would be pretty hysterical, because taash is so straightforward and viago is so paranoid, and i think viago would leave all of them confused and slightly intimidated. if you send taash with the crows in the final battle, they and teia have a cute interaction about taash getting honorary crow rights, as a conclusion to lucanis and taash’s banters. so this has Teia Approval, which causes viago grumbling but does have a positive viago effect overall. the lords of fortune are friendly with the crows so i don’t think there are major occupational objections here

4) harding is an inquisition agent, which i think viago probably has both condescending and paranoid opinions about. i.e., the inquisition are a small band of fading influence but they also have a history of insane power grabs out of nowhere. neither of which are exactly what you want your protege to marry into. her inability to cook suggests very little skillset bonding. she’s an ordinary farm girl from ferelden and viago’s an antivan elitist so no discussion of their relative backgrounds is going to go very well. HOWEVER, there are saving graces here. she’s a rogue, which is the viago equivalent of dating someone who’s made good career choices. they briefly worked together in the comics with no issues and happily shook hands at the end. he would find her powers conceptually interesting. she’s the type of person to make an effort with in-laws. (hysterical image of her somehow getting viago to her ma’s house for a family gathering. his spindly legs not fitting under the dwarven table. him testing the world’s most earnest fereldan soup for poison. endless potential here.)

5) neve is a detective. viago is a poisoner and rook is his assassin. these are not particularly compatible life paths and i believe viago would point this out with increasing volume as nobody else seems to take issue with it. her canonical willingness to work with the crows would mollify him a bit. every other aspect of her life would not. maybe avoid her mentioning that she lives in a dock town apartment and makes no money because she’s too busy picking fights against impossible odds out of the goodness of her heart? like just don’t bring that up over dinner.

6) davrin made life choices against his own clan’s wishes, greatly approves when you knock his boss out cold, and has zero respect for the crows. davrin does not want viago’s approval. davrin cannot even pretend to want viago’s approval. viago thinks he has the right to be insulted. let alone the insult of his protege ending up with someone with the zero lifetime prospects of a grey warden monster hunter. does rook even know what happened the last time a crow lost their head over a warden? perhaps rook would like the crows to bury as many fifth talons as they did eighth talons! <- said in increasingly hysterical tones, as teia pats him on the back comfortingly while giving rook a thumbs up for picking out a handsome one

7) viago’s fairly sure you’re publicly dating the first talon because you want him personally in an early grave

#veilguard spoilers #viago de riva #okay i mostly put lucanis last for the bit i don’t know if that’s necessarily true #depends a lot on the rook and also how the first talon situation is being handled in your personal post-canon imaginings #but as soon as you make the crows even slightly more crow like in your mind. most reasonable viago paranoia moment ever i fear #hes right this time. why are you doing that.

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jean-dieu · 29 days ago

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Dragon age the Veilguard: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

Don't expect too much there, I'm just writing my own subjective, non-organized, badly written critic of the game. Spoilers ahead, so be warned!

The Good is the good stuff, The Bad is the bad stuff that aren't too jarring or that don't threaten the whole setting so much so it's okay to just ignore them, and The Ugly is the bad stuff that DO make me want to fucking die and explode.

The Good:

-It's beautiful. Not a fan of a lot of design choices but it's obviously well made. The landscapes are very pretty.

-The character creator. It's always funny to me when I see some dudebros complaining about it as if they're not purposefully making ugly characters. It has quite a lot of option, nice skin details, scars, tattoos and all.

-I really like the combat. I still think DAO is the superior system but I'm much more happy with a true action rpg than whatever Inquisition was trying to do.

-I'm going to be more objective there and say the maps are better than Inquisition. THAT BEING SAID I love the Hinterlands so I still prefer Inquisiton's bloated open world lmao.

-There's a lot of nice details all around! Neve's metallic prothesis walking sound, the decorations all around, tears in character's eyes, ect.

-Solas. Can't believe I'm saying it as I didn't like him much in DAI and I don't like Solavellan but DATV made me like him very much. He's much more morally grey and less uwu wet cat and I'm here for that. Excellent voice acting of course.

-Mythal. Again, I love whatever Solas and Mythal have going on. It's toxic, it's passionate, it's one sided, and Mythal is a very interesting character IMO.

-Felassan. Again, such a cool and compelling character.

-A lot of NPCs were very cool. Antoine who's singlehandly saving the French's reputation, Evka, The Viper, Strife, Viago, Teia, etc. They're cool and rather compelling.

-I did enjoy a lot of the companion's personal quests. Davrin and Bellara especially as they felt more in line with Dragon Age in general.

-For a game where the Bad Guys are Comically Evil... Johanna Hezenkoss fits the bill and yet she's a delight.

-There's really cool codex entries. Irelin's letter about mourning Arlathan for example. Antoine's letter to Evka should he ever be Called.

-Ghilahn'ain's design.

-I liked the living Blight! OK the darkspawns were ugly af but I still really enjoyed the idea.

-I actually liked the puzzles lmao? I'm sorry but I usually find puzzles fucking annoying in that type of game so I'd rather have something easy and fun than scratching my head in a rpg.

-I was glad to see Valta again!

The Bad: (vaguely in order of importance)

-Unpopular opinion but Assan and Manfred felt forced af. Yeah I got it, they're cute... Now can we go back on uh, the apocalypse.

-The music is boring. Fuck man Inquisition and Origins musics make me cry, but Veilguard's main them... Exists.

-I would prefer the companion to be stationary and being able to talk to them whenever want. They tried something but it didn't deliver.

-The fuck is Inky wearing.

-The fuck is Isabela wearing, but racist edition. Oh well. At least it's an easy fix with a mod.

-The companions have potential but they often lack something. I wish we got more than Lucanis liking coffee. Also, some characters concept from the art book felt so much more interesting. The only character I REALLY was interested in was Davrin because he feels very dragon age-y. A Dalish Grey Warden! That's interesting!

-The Lore seems alright and coherent with the serie so far, but it was just lore drops after lore drops, with no time for reactions, and your companions being sometimes waaaaay too chill about it.

-The overall sanitazing of the world while the grim stuff still somehow being there regarding Tevinter. It's very close to be in the Ugly category but because it's supposed to be there, I'm encline to believe it's still canon and not a retcon, and just a poor presentation. Where are the slaves? We see some of course, and some stuff were legitimately jarring... But because we're confined in docktowns, we don't get to see the ruling magisters and slavers. Docktowns almost seem... Nice. But it doesnt stop there. The Lords of Fortune not stealing artifacts because they respect cultures. The Crows being patriotic vigilantes. Lucanis being a mage killer but only for evil tevene magisters.

-I understand the impossibility to be Evil as you're recruited by Varric and he wouldn't have recruited the local serial killer that drowns kitties for fun. But... You should be able to be aggressive, stern, serious and all. You should be able to play a no-nonsense character who is authoritative and assertive while still following the plot.

-Again, I understand the companions being healthier than whatever DA2 crew had going on (love them tho) but it should have been more like Inquisition. People working together and forcing themselves to make it work for the sake of the world YET fighting and disagreeing on plenty of subjects. And Rook should be able to tell the companion to stfu sometimes. To tell Taash that they're an ass. To tell Emmerich you don't give a shit about his magic and that Manfred is fucking weird and shouldn't exist. To tell Bellara to stop whining.

-On the same note, the companions are all WAY too nice. One their own they're alright, but none of them have some true flaws/secrets/dark past/opposing convictions or whatever. Davrin and Lucanis are almost the only one who are arguing and fighting a bit but it's very tame. We never hear them arguing over politics, religion, or even ways of doing things (except for food lol. why is this game so much about food). If you take Inquisition for example, the companions are ALL working together in the face of a Ancient Evil threatening Thedas. Yet, they still argue about plenty of things. Solas and Iron Bull about the Qun. Vivienne and Solas about the existence of Circles. Varric and Cassandra's fighting is ruthless even when it's about nothing important. Try to show your pride as a Dalish to Sera and she won't take it well. Tell Cassandra that you don't give a shit about the Chantry and she'll disapprove. And still, these persons managed to work together. The excuse of "They put their differences aside because of the current threat" doesn't hold. The companions don't necessarily need DA2's level of animosity between them, but they don't need to all be best friends forever second one. Bellara could be suspicious of Neve for the sole reason of her being a Tevinter Mage. Lucanis too ("Mage Killer"!!!), but because he doesn't trust magic at all. Davrin and Bellara could argue about what it means to be Dalish to them, or argue about their faith!! EVERYONE Should be more worried about Lucanis being an abomination, damn it!

-I understand the Crows we see are not the one experiencing the worst of the organisation since they're highranking members but c'mon... It should be acknowledged at least.

-Some of the dialogues are fucking awful especially at the begining. They repeat themselves so much. The scene with "Nooo Rook you need to help us resolve our problems otherwise we will be too weak to fight the gods!! Rook, do my personal quests or I'll be too sad to fight!!". Harding's "Awkwaaaard". Bellara's quirky uwu manic pixie girl vibes at the begining.

The Ugly:

-Anything related to the elves. For a game centered on elven gods... We get so much yet nothing. Why are they all more or less cool about their "Gods" being real and evil? No one freaking out about having Elgarnan's vallaslin on their face? No crisis of faith? No elves joining them, really? Not a single one? No dalish celebrating their return before realizing the awful truth? No city elves or elven slaves fleeing to them because they have nothing to lose anyway? That's unrealistic. I can understand the Veil Jumpers already knowing the truth, it's more or less explained in the books anyway, but there's no way it's commonly accepted among all dalish clans. Speaking of dalish clans, were are they? And Briala ? Didn't she also control the Eluvian? What about city elves in general? And elven slaves? There's just nothing. The elven pantheon wasn't some myths for the Dalish. It was a religion. Their religion. Damn, imagine Christians learning Jesus is coming back BUT he's in fact very evil and is launching nuclear weapons everywhere? And their only reaction is "Oh no, we have to stop Jesus :(" ? I'm taking the christian example but you could say that about pretty much every religion.

-Where are Fen'harel agents? A few lines and one or two NPC mentioning Solas parting ways with them or even making the Veil Jumpers the ex-agents left behind would have been SO much more interesting than whatever they justified in the AMA. I can't believe they didn't even put A CODEX ENTRY explaining their absence in game. That's lazy af.

-No repercussion on the elves AT ALL? Seriously, realistically speaking, what is the future for the elves at the end of DATV? "Their" Gods almost destroyed the world, "Their" Gods killed countless, "Their" Gods created the Blight, "Their" Gods that many dalish still worshipped only a few years ago. What do you mean humans aren't going to declare open season on them? Like OF COURSE I don't want that to happen, and I'm hoping that idk, they'll found their own country in a reclaimed Arlathan, or that the instability in the south allows some of them to grab positions of power but don't tell me the humans aren't going to feel so fucking justify in their hatred, especially towards the Dalish who never converted to the Chantry. The fact that the endgame doesn't mention ANYTHING about it is jarring. Bioware ffs drop a book or whatever soon I need answers. I need hope. The game is treating the racism against Elves as... Some prejudices humans soooometimes have against them and not... centuries of systematic oppression, genocide, cultural erasure. The City Elf origins, Chevaliers killing Alienage elves for funsies, Celene burning down a whole Alienage, the genocide of dalish clans anyone? All of this is stuff that happened like... Between 8 and 20 years ago. It's not ancient history.

-Blighting Ferelden Beyond Repair, the Venatori Coup in Orlais and Kirkwall's evacuation was mean. Of cours the South is dealing with the blight and a shitload of problem but the "we lost Denerim. And Redcliff. And anything really. Idk if there's survivors. But if there is they'll starve anyway. xoxo the Inky." was just mean spirited I'm sorry. Same as above, Bioware. I fucking need hope for the South. Anything really. They could have stopped as "Yo there's a big Blight in the south and it sucks, Denerim is struggling and we lost villages and all" and that would have been FINE. No need to go scorched earth damnit.

-The lack of worldstate choices. C'mon. I understand not having a lot of them but a list of 6-10 easy questions would have been nice. Who's Divine? Who's ruling in the South? Who drank from the Well of Sorrow? It wouldn't have asked much work to just personalize a few sentences to adjust that. Also, saying they only kept 3 choices so they could really mean something... Liar. The only thing that really has an impact is did u date solas or not. Which fine, of course it matters! But all the other romances, the inquisition disbanded or not, stopping solas or not had NO IMPACT whatsoever.

-Where the fuck is Fenris. Idgaf Inquisition had Leliana when she could die in DAO, so bring Fenris in the Shadow Dragon. He needs to be there.

-The Antaam is such a fucking racist trope I can't believe they did it. Yeah, let make them growl like damn animals.

-Speaking of Qunari, even Taash is... Urgh. Why do you mean they sniff people. Also, their whole storyline on their gender identity was badly written. That scene with Isabela... No. That's not how you apologize. You misgender someone by mistake? Say sorry, correct yourself, move on. That's it.

-Dwarves had cool moments in the game but dang, we really, REALLY needed more of it. So many revelation about them, and while some of them were very well written, it doesn't have enough impact.

-The absence of reactions and dialogues related to your race is jarring. Can't believe I'm begging the game for racial slurs but here we are. EVERYONE in Origins commented on you playing an Elf. A non-human Inquisitor faced struggles as the Herald. Why is Qunari Rook able to roam freely in Minrathous without a SINGLE comment on their race? Same for the elves, to a lesser degree since at least they are not a rare occurence in Tevinter. Can't believe dwarves get so little reaction for all the big reveals. Can't believe elves barely get to react to ELVEN GODS destroying the world or Bellara's guilt about it.

-WHERE'S THE CHANTRY. WHERE. DAMN IT. Even if it's not the focus of the game, I'd expect to still see its influence. Man I'm almost wishing Harding was more of a Chantry Girl.

-Morrigan's whole storyline is an insult to her character.

#aaaaand that's it for me #I needed to write it down #It's a mess but yeah #dragon age #dragon age the veilguard #datv #datv critical #dragon age critical #dragon age the veilguard critical #datv spoilers

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anotherramblingfangirl · 2 months ago

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What if Rook de Riva was just a problematic fledgling Viago got saddled with by the previous House talon? They apparently were seen as having talent from the start, perhaps explaining why that Talon didn’t just do away with them and took a different approach.

Viago meanwhile remembers Rook as a fledgling who are children/teens and their graduation - as well as seemingly views a lot of responsibility for how they turn out, even still, including wanting them more “cultured” such on Antivan art - but isn’t quite old enough to have been the Talon in charge himself when Rook was actually recruited.

This could have been either a keep Viago busy and unproblematic to me sort of decision, or perhaps giving him responsibility over a fledgling under his wing was part of grooming him as heir to the house depending on if Viago was the intended next Talon.

It could explain the sibling/parental dynamic fans have been commenting on, especially as in-game comments make it clear this isn’t just on all in his house - he worries and is in a worse mood when Rook specifically isn’t there.

#dragon age veilgaurd spoilers #dragon age veilguard #dragon age #viago de riva #rook de riva #not really spoilers but just in case #just brought about from #Wondering about how the brother/parental #Sort of dynamic came in place #because rook is singled out as being important #and a key component of his mood #Post by me #this may not be correct but musings #antivan crows

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lancedoncrimsonwings · 1 month ago

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So Viago de Riva owns Death Adders right? (Acanthophis antarcticus)

I'm 99% certain the snake Lucanis owns is an Adder too. Though I've decided he owns their slightly less deadly cousin, the European Adder (Vipera berus) purely because they're one of my favourite species of snake.

I got to tattoo a pair on a client the other day!!!

(Well, we had somewhere to be straight after so I only shaded the male but we'll add the browns on the female later. Healed newts, frog and stag beetle done by me, butterfly and dragonfly done by someone else)

When work and fandom collide.

I need to do some Adder based Lucanis and Viago fan art, don't I?

#lucanis dellamorte #viago de riva #adder #vipera berus #snake #tattoo #snake tattoo #tattoo artist #death adder #european adder #acanthophis antarcticus

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therookandthecrow · 1 month ago

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I'll be honest, but the Lucanis/Davrin (aka Lucavrin) ship doesn't do it for me, although I do like some of the fan-art made of the fandom pairing. I prefer his relationship with a romanced Rook far more.

Even if such an option were available, my canon Rook wouldn't share Lucanis with him, though he may be a hypocrite, because he ends up sharing him with Teia and Viago along with Spite post-game.

It's just one of those fandom ships that doesn't do it for me. I tried to force myself to like it a lot, but at the best, I tolerate it to a degree, but I am not the intended audience. It's so popular, but for me, it's nah.

To me, it's just two extremely attractive male characters getting paired together because some of their banter could work as good enemies to lovers works if one is so inclined to do it, so I see that angle of the appeal.

#dragon age: the veilguard #da: tv #lucanis dellamorte #davrin #fandom pairings #fandom ships #it just doesn't do it for me #and i tried to like it #there is nothing about the pairing that makes me go omg they are so good together

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lexalott · 3 days ago

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#illustration #fantasy art #drawing #da4 #dav #veilguard #da:veilguard #viago #viago de riva #the veilguard #dragon age #dragon age 4 #crows #da fanart #dragon age fan art #art process #dragon age fanart

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jaderavenarts · 2 months ago

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5, 39, 49 for both please <3

Thank you for the ask!! 🥰

5. What was life like for Rook before joining the Veilguard?

Aster de Riva: As someone who was a street orphan when their magic started to manifest, being recruited by the Crows gave them training, stability, and a family,* seeing them as sorts of heroes, whether or not that's a particularly healthy view to have about the Crows. They're prone to heroics and will sometimes break Crow conduct to do so, much to the leadership's frustration, which is partly why they end up with lower level contracts. They're also pretty social but never had much luck in the romance department.

Adaia Laidir (aka my Warden/Zevran daughter Rook lol): Growing up with her parents and their stories drew her towards a life of adventure, but also an inclination to avoid city life and a change of surname that won't allude to her famous/infamous parents. Maybe it was stories about her pirate aunt that led her to the Lords of Fortune, where she could go exploring, treasure hunting, help with escorting researchers, and maybe sometimes let corrupt nobles slip into a trap. Oops.

39. What is their room at The Lighthouse like?

Aster: They decorate their room with a mix of elven cultural items (trying to connect to their heritage), Crow memorabilia (their present home), and art with bird motifs. Though they might keep things simple while on a job, they like to have lots of comforts like an excessive amount of pillows and blankets around if they can.

Adaia: She keeps a lot of trinkets from her adventures and loves landscape art. She's used to being on the move though, both from her childhood and with the Lords, so her room is easy to pack up and go.

49. What will always make them laugh?

Aster: Puns and cheesy jokes for sure.* But they laugh pretty easily, and are also the sort to use humor to hide fear/insecurities.

Adaia: She's a fan of wild stories with unexpected twists.

(Full list of questions)

References to NPCs and companion banter below:

For the * on 5: specifically, they see Viago as an older brother figure

For the * on 49: much to Lucanis's dismay lmao

#jaderaven answers #jaderaven plays datv #aster de riva #adaia laidir

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lancedoncrimsonwings · 2 months ago

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Viago definitely has an Adder, given the story in Tevinter Nights and repeated references to them in game!

I'm inclined to think Lucanis probably has the same?

They're also one of my all time fave snakes so maybe I'm a little biased

Some Adder facts under the cut, because I fuckin love snakes and I can;

European Adder, Vipera berus

Adders have a dark zigzag pattern across their back

They eat small mammals, lizards, birds, and amphibians.

In the wild, they generally live for 5-10 years, but some older individuals have been found and they could live up to 15-20 years.

Females are larger and brown, reaching up to 80cm

Males are smaller and a silvery grey, reaching up to 65cm

There is a melanistic population of literal "Black Adders", this morph is most commonly found in mountainous areas, but can be found across their full range, and some studies suggest females are more likely to be melanistic than males.

They're not aggressive, and tend to flee when disturbed.

Adders brumate (hibernate) in the winter months.

They do not lay eggs, instead they give birth to live young. (Ovoviviparus)

They like to swim and are often seen swimming in canals and rivers.

They prefer open shrublands and moorlands and dislike it too overgrown, habitat loss and the resulting population fragmentation is their biggest threat, among others, such as cats. In the UK, there are volunteer groups to clear areas of overgrown foliage so the Adders can thrive.

They're the UK's only Venomous snake. The UK's two other native snakes are non venomous- the Grass Snake and the Smooth snake. We also have three small established populations of non venomous Aesculapian snakes, the largest of which is in Conwy, made up of around 70 adult descendants of Welsh Mountain Zoo escapees.

Adder bites can be fatal, but are unlikely to be; In the UK, there have only been 14 recorded cases of humans dying from an Adder bite in the last 150 years, and 0 deaths since 1975, though there have still been a number of serious, life-threatening bites.

Around 70% of Adder bites have a negligible or mild affect, and an estimated 1/3 bites are "dry bites", without any venom.

An estimated 50-100 people are bitten each year, usually on the hands or arms due to picking up the snake.

You should ALWAYS go straight to A&E if you think you have been bitten by an Adder.

They are a protected species in the UK, and much to my chagrin, illegal to keep as a pet.

I definitely need to do some Viago and Lucanis Adder fan art now...

Snake enthusiasts Lucanis. No really guys he has a pet snake. So does Viago.

Is this a crow thing? Do they all just have pet snakes cause hell yeah I fuck with it.

The real big question is the type of snake they have.

#viago de riva #lucanis dellamorte #antivan crows #dragon age spoilers #dragon age #dragon age veilguard #tevinter nights #adder #vipera berus #cool snake facts #snakes #i just fuckin love snakes ok

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