#very high stakes for leo

[tangledinink]

question for ur gemini au: do they ever get cloaking broaches/do they have cloaking broaches and if yes why do they use them?

me: im not gonna draw anything for any of these asks, just simple easy answers, that's all--

idiot-mushroom, my beloved mutual, asking this and giving me the opportunity to make yet another set of TMNT human designs:

ANYWAY! they don't OWN cloaking brooches of their own, but every now and again they'll get a pair for the evening for some topside dinner or charity event or what-have-you that Mama wants them present for. And they look a little like this!

this is a rare occasion and has only really been something they've been asked to participate in a handful of times over the past several years. they both find it horribly stressful for a variety of different reasons.

[personastrologyhub]

Degree Theory Series: The Leo Degrees (5°, 17°, 29°): Unveiling the Complexities of Power, Prestige, and Presence

☆ Leo degrees represent a striking influence—one that combines ambition, charisma, romance, and a near-magical allure. The house that Leo is in your chart is reflective of the area of life that you have the potential to receive a lot of attention.  It is literally the sign of reaching for the stars.   But beneath the well-known themes of fame, leadership, and power, these degrees have deeper, sometimes hidden qualities that shape the lives they touch. Here’s an exploration into these powerful degrees, plus the distinctive flavors they create when combined with different planetary energies.

5° Leo: The Catalyst for Expression and Presence

Keywords: Bold action, self-expression, initiator, elite status, teaching and guidance.

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Personality and Physicality: Known as a degree that heightens presence, 5° Leo lends a dignified, commanding air that can be quite magnetic. David Hasselhoff’s for example has a Venus at 5 degrees of Leo. Back in the day, David was known for his magnetic charm and stage presence. He had set the Guinness world record of the most watched man on Tv. This degree supports his appeal as the central figure of Baywatch, Knight Rider and other things, and it shows his ability to thrive under the spotlight. He had set the Guinness world record of the most watched man on Tv.

5° Leo isn’t just the “leader” degree; it often marks those who naturally attract authority and influence without having to seek it.

Hidden Quality of Resourcefulness: A lesser-known quality of 5° Leo is its connection to resourcefulness in high-stakes situations. Those with this degree on key planets often discover remarkable ingenuity under pressure, especially in challenging or isolating circumstances. To thrive in the spotlight, you have to be very resilient.

17° Leo: The Degree of Visionary Influence and Endurance

Keywords: Legacy, public service, intellectual pursuits, mentorship, teaching roles, family connections.

Social Reach and Legacy: 17° Leo reflects someone whose influence extends over time, resonating through a legacy, particularly through teaching, law, or service roles. the 17th degree is the 2nd highest degree amongst the leo degrees (5, and 29 are the other leo degrees) meaning that it has a “longevity” behind it. There’s often a connection to mentorship or guiding others, and those with 17° Leo placements may be naturally drawn to academia, justice, or philosophical pursuits. They often think in terms of generations and long-term impacts.

Oprah has her MC in 17 degree of Libra.

Elvis Presley is a prominent example of a celebrity with a 17° placement, specifically with his Sun at 17° Capricorn, which is influenced by the “Leo degree” due to degree theory. This degree is associated with lasting fame, a magnetic stage presence, and the ability to create legacy and extend over time. Elvis Presleys music has the ability to transcend time—this aligns with Elvis’s legendary status as the “King of Rock and Roll.” The 17° Leo degree amplifies qualities like charisma, recognition, and impact in the public eye, traits strongly reflected in Elvis’s career and enduring influence in music and culture.

Another example is George Michael, whose Ascendant is at 17° Cancer, lending him a path aligned with Leo qualities—drawing attention, captivating fans, and excelling as a charismatic performer in the entertainment industry. Both figures illustrate how the 17° Leo degree enhances the potential for significant, long-lasting public impact and memorable artistry.

These cases highlight how the 17° degree is seen as one of prestige and enduring influence in charts of famous figures, marking individuals with an aura of distinction and an ability to maintain a lasting legacy in their field.

The Role of Family and Support: This degree frequently connects individuals with family lineage, both in values and sometimes through inheritance or positions of responsibility within family networks. The “father” degree, it suggests an ability to support or uplift family lines or nations—carrying a certain gravitas that inspires collective respect. Just as 17° Leo was prominent in Bill Clinton’s chart, it speaks to enduring influence, as well as the idea of a “national father figure.” Again with Presley he was considered the Father or King of Rock and Roll.

Lesser-Known Influence in Social Structure: Lesser known is 17° Leo’s gift for navigating social structures, from rallying support to surviving intrigue. Individuals with this degree may exhibit a resilient streak, successfully facing threats or challenges within power structures=Much like Elvis who did receive multiple death threats and kidnap warnings, particularly while performing in Las Vegas. 

29° Leo: The Degree of Transformative Leadership and Strategic Vision

Keywords: Finality, transformation, intuition, covert planning, prestige, challenging circumstances.

Mystery and Power Dynamics: Known as an “anaretic” degree, 29° Leo carries themes of completion, change, and high-stakes decisions. People with this degree tend to face intense personal or public challenges that demand creative problem-solving and often put them in complex or strategic roles. A bit of a “chameleon” degree, it suggests someone who can operate under the radar and emerge victorious, often as a reformer or innovator within traditional structures.  Leaders like Winston Churchill, who had his Moon at 29° Leo, epitomize the strength of this degree. Similarly, Donald Trump's 29° Leo Ascendant underscores a charismatic presence and his controversial but impactful role in the public sphere, navigating complex political power structures. They guy became the president of the United States at one point and is up for office again. 

Transformation and Symbolic Rebirth: 29° Leo may indicate the ability to work behind the scenes or in covert ways, potentially in intelligence, diplomacy, or advocacy roles where resilience is paramount. Often, individuals here face life events that force them to “become someone new,” such as a leader rising unexpectedly or a figure dealing with transformative personal setbacks. Just as Churchill rose during Britain’s darkest hour, those with 29° Leo can emerge from crises as symbols of strength and change. his degree also enhances adaptability, suggesting a capacity to emerge stronger after setbacks or public scrutiny. This is also seen in Drake (BBL Drizzy) and Heidi Klum, both with Ascendants at 29°, which contributes to their enduring relevance and adaptability in the ever-changing entertainment landscape.

Lesser-Known Themes of Hidden Loyalty: There’s also a lesser-known aspect of loyalty and readiness to defend others, even to the point of self-sacrifice. This degree attracts followers or allies who support them in unlikely ways, often during critical transitions or public shifts.

Planetary Combinations:

Mercury at 29° Leo: Mercury here indicates someone who speaks with finality and influence, often giving speeches or communications with a lasting impact. They may find themselves in pivotal discussions, historical moments, or transformative media.

Pluto at 29° Leo: This pairing suggests a powerful leader who can influence others profoundly, sometimes by overturning existing power structures. Pluto at 29° Leo is highly transformative, especially in public roles, and may attract both fame and intrigue, giving the individual an almost mythic quality.

Uranus at 29° Leo: With Uranus, there’s a push for radical change and an ability to innovate under pressure. Individuals with this placement can disrupt the status quo effectively and are unafraid to act independently, even if it means losing support temporarily. Their vision is ahead of its time, and they may be involved in pioneering work or historic moments of change.

Hidden Qualities Across the Leo Degrees

Each of these degrees in Leo also carries unique subtleties, especially when it comes to handling public pressure, love for prestige, and overcoming personal trials. Whether seen in how they survive adversities (often with an unexpected inner resilience) or in their commitment to their people or causes, Leo degrees add depth and charisma that’s impossible to ignore.

If you hold one of these degrees in a major placement, consider it a call to embody love, loyalty, and leadership in your unique style. The Leo degree asks for authenticity and confidence, even when the stakes are high.

Observation:

Sun at 5° Leo: A classic position for leaders who are highly visible and admired. The Sun here drives an ambition that others respect, even if they don’t fully understand the drive behind it. There’s a fierce desire to succeed on one’s terms, often in high-profile careers or pursuits.

Moon at 5° Leo: Emotional expression is vital here, with a need to connect in visible, memorable ways. A Moon at 5° Leo can feel happiest when making an impact in social or familial spheres, perhaps guiding or inspiring others. There’s a special talent for evoking loyalty and support from people, often based on an instinctive understanding of group dynamics.

Mars at 5° Leo: Mars here is a warrior spirit that fights with purpose. It’s often associated with a physical stature or confidence that commands space, possibly leading to military or athletic pursuits. There’s a heightened ability to rally others, leading to leadership roles that arise naturally in tense situations.

[turtleblogatlast]

Thinking about how Leo says he uses his jokes to cope and y’know, thinking harder on it I think it may very well be because of what else uses one-liners and puns and that type of humor.

Specifically, 80’s action movies and campy sci-fi. Even more specifically, the protagonists of these.

So I can imagine why, exactly, Leo leans toward this brand of humor. It’s directly linked to things he loves! But even more than that is why I think it’s used as a coping mechanism.

In these genres, these quips tend to be said by the winner - or, if not a winner, then someone who will stay alive. So there’s a confidence behind them, an assurance, almost, that even if things go wrong, things aren’t ever too serious. There’s no bad endings here! It’s all good fun, even if the stakes seem high.

Leo canonically has been known to steer his brothers away from the more brutal villains and toward more fun, lighthearted activities and not-so-dangerous criminals. So for Leo, these jokes definitely make things less heavy, make the situations they find themselves in less intense.

It’s kinda not just coping, but also can be seen as a form of escapism. A safety blanket. A way for Leo to defuse the tension of knowing just how dangerous their lives are and replace that with a levity which implies that things will be okay.

Unfortunately, levity alone does not alter reality.

[themisplaceddemigod]

could you do another leo valdez smut

answering both of these in this one, i hope you guys don't mind! @charlottethepancake. once again, i'm so sorry it took so long!

beach day

Leo Valdez x F!Reader

Reader's godly parent - Apollo

summary - the ask sums it up :)

warnings - SMUT, sexual content, MINORS DNI!!!

You hadn't been to the beach in ages. Since you found out you were a demigod, it's been non-stop running from monsters or going on high-stakes, dangerous quests that almost killed you and your friends. So between all of that, there was never really a good time to just relax on the beach.

And now when you did get the chance, your needy boyfriend was making it difficult for you to just relax and sunbathe like you had originally planned to do. His roaming hands and teasing kisses along your shoulders and neck were a dead giveaway to what he wanted to do, and while you were annoyed you couldn't just relax, you had to admit you couldn't resist your fiery lover.

And that's what led to you being pushed up against the nearest wall, legs wrapped around his waist as he dry humped you. With no care for who would see the two of you, his lips trailed wet kisses from your lips down to your shoulders, where he started licking and sucking like he needed it, biting down occasionally and earning surprised but pleased gasps and moans from you.

There were so many things you could say to get him to realise this was not the place to do it, but the way he rolled his hips against yours, his clothed crotch rubbing up against yours in just the right way, made you completely forget how to speak. Instead, your head tilted back until it touched the wall, barely registering the feeling of his hands sliding up to grope at the soft flesh of your breasts. Before you knew it, your hands were moving down to untie the strings of his shorts, pushing it down with a fervor only he brought out of you.

"Someone's eager," he teased, dragging his tongue along the base of your throat, earning a groan from you.

"Shut up," you breathed out, voice shaky and heavy with lust.

He just laughed and moved back up to kiss you as his hand slid into your bikini bottoms, fingers easily finding your soaked entrance. They went to work immediately, rubbing and pinching in ways that had you grabbing and pulling on his wild, curly hair. The moan that left his mouth was absolutely lewd, so you did it again.

"Oh you like that hmm?" You smirked. "Good to know."

A low growl emanated from his throat, "You'll be pulling harder than that in a few minutes, just wait."

Your spine tingled in anticipation, capturing his lips with yours and kissing him messily as he fully removed your bottoms. One finger entered, and soon you were bucking your hips against his hand, eager for his fingers to ruin you. He knew your body so well that his fingers seemed to have a mind of their own, and brought you to the edge of an orgasm within minutes. One, two, three digits pumping in and out, curling inside you just the way you liked, it didn't take you long before you were whining and whimpering.

"Fuck! I'm gonna-"

"Cum?" He finished, "Oh no, not yet."

You just whined in response, hips rocking involuntarily as he removed his fingers. He responded with a chuckled before he fisted his dick and aligned it with your entrance, teasing you for a moment by rubbing just his tip against you, letting the head slide in before pulling out.

"Don't tease!" You whimpered, nails digging into his shoulders as you tried - and failed - to push yourself onto him.

"Aw, but you're cute when you're desperate," he pouted, but obliged.

Leo wasn't very thick, but he made up for it in length. He was three-quarters of the way in when you felt full, gasping and throwing your head back as you relished in the feeling of him inside you.

"Think you can take the rest today, baby?" He mumbled, biting your bottom lip as you moaned and nodded frantically. You needed all of him inside you or you were going to explode. "Good girl."

Leo knew what was coming when he shoved himself all the way. His warm hand came up to cover your mouth as you screamed, body lurching at the new feeling. His cocky smirk remained as you struggled to take him fully for a moment, before finally adjusting. The roll of your eyes sent waves of smugness through him, and that's when he began his thrusts.

Setting a harsh pace, the son of Hephaestus felt control slipping away from him slowly as he rocked into you. The way you clenched around him and the sounds coming from you were making him feral.

"Fuck, you're taking me so well," he groaned into your ear, hips snapping against yours with the force of a god. Wet, squelching sounds filled the air as he continuously and relentlessly bucked up into you, with you gasping, moaning and screaming into the palm of his hand. "That's it baby, you're doing so well. You feel so fucking good..."

He moved faster and harder when he felt the telltale signs of your impending orgasm, and his hands tightened at your waist. His thrusts became sloppy and uncoordinated, but much rougher and it had you seeing stars as your head spun from the pleasure. Your head was thrown back, mouth dropped in an 'o' shape, eyes shut tight and it was the hottest thing he'd ever seen. He always loved seeing how good he could make you feel, but he wanted to see your pretty eyes.

"Open your eyes babe," he prompted with a particularly violent thrust, "I want to see your eyes as I make you cum."

Those words combined with the ecstatic feeling of his dick ramming into you repeatedly were enough to send you flying over the edge, your orgasm coming so hard that for a moment you saw only white. But Leo didn't stop, he kept thrusting into you like a wild animal, chasing his own high and fucking you through the best orgasm of your life. He finished not long after you, pulling out so that he could release ropes of his white seed onto your lower stomach. You whined at the sight, breathless and weak.

"God, you're hot."

"I know," he winked, before gently setting you down. "And since I wanted this, I'll clean you up and carry you to the ice cream stand."

"You'd better."

Though you couldn't help thinking...it was a great beach day after all.

[myokk]

I had so much fun writing this up as I drank my coffee this morning, thanks for making the templates @kiwiplaetzchen 🥹🙏

A little bit of backstory for Eloise - I’ll do an actual drawing etc etc in the future but for now if you’re interested!!:

Eloise has a brother, Leonard (Leo) who is a year older than her (I want to draw him soon!!) and her parents are both (unfortunately 😔🙏) still very much alive. If the family had continued to the 1930s, they would DEFINITELY have been part of the Sacred 28, making it the Sacred 29 instead. Her father was an only child so he inherited everything, and her mother is Elladora Babbit née Black, the woman who started the Black family tradition of beheading useless house elves😭 (and yes unfortunately that makes Headmaster Black Eloise’s uncle😫).

Eloise was kept a secret from the rest of magic society her whole life. In my imagination, the pureblood families have so much inbreeding amongst themselves that it’s not uncommon for them to give birth to squibs. Part of pureblood culture is not announcing they’ve given birth to a child until they’ve shown signs of magic - normally around 3/4 years old at most. When Eloise never showed ANY signs of magic, she was just their shameful secret. On her eleventh birthday when it was all but confirmed she was a squib, she was burned off the family tree and spent the next five years at a muggle finishing school. Always looking to take advantage of whatever they could get, however, Eloise’s parents arranged a marriage between her and the firstborn son of a wealthy muggle landowner when she came of age.

Her family had no idea that she was admitted to Hogwarts (they cut off all ties to her and disowned her) and Leo, who had always been fiercely protective of her growing up was simultaneously devastated and ecstatic that he could see his sister again. It’s been really hard to repair the relationship though, as there is a lot of resentment that they cannot get over even though they want to😭. And, for as much as her parents dictated everything about how her life has gone, Eloise can’t help but try to work hard to get their love and approval as it’s all she ever thought she wanted. And now that she’s in a position to become the daughter they’ve always desired, she feels a lot of resentment towards herself. She feels as if she’s betraying the young girl who was abandoned by her family, because she wants their approval so badly (it will take a while for her to get over this😔🙏)

In terms of the personality I did it a bit like the sims where I just max things out bc I think everything in the middle is boring jajajaja. But:

Shy: not shy in the sense she can’t talk to other people and she isn’t necessarily socially awkward. She just doesn’t always know what to say and will remain silent if she thinks she has nothing to add to a conversation instead of yapping away (BUT unfortunately rambles and over explains herself to not be misunderstood when she does talk, THANKS narcissistic mother), and normally she wishes people would ignore her. When the Daily Prophet article came out about her “miraculous” recovery and introduction to magical society she HATED it & she HATES all of the people trying to talk to her and befriend her.

Active: NOT active as in super energetic. She just wakes up really early and always needs to keep herself busy. She gets anxious if she doesn’t have anything to do - but, she includes thinking as doing something, and often retreats into her thoughts and doesn’t realize when people are talking to her.

I think grouchy and nice can exist together so with this one I put it in the middle. She’s both simultaneously😭

Aaaand with cowardly/brave, she thinks she is really cowardly for going back to her parents so easily and wanting their love so badly, and hates herself for it (not realizing it’s an accumulation of a lifetime of emotional trauma). But lots of times when things get very high-stakes she will jump in and do incredibly reckless things without thinking of the consequences, although if she stopped to think before she acted she would definitely NOT do them. So maybe brave in actions, cowardly on the inside (IDK)

If you read all of this I love you!! I want to share more about her but this was getting crazy long jajajajajajaja😇🙏

[coffeegnomee]

The nature of opposing your lore.

It is in the nature of Lifesteal to see you do a character, and violently, psychologically and verbally, oppose your character. 

And not even just rigid characters, though the more rigid the greater the opposition. 

And the more rigid, the less room you have to defend yourself. 

S6 Zam is the easiest example; he chooses to kill nobody, and Planet, Bacon, Mapicc, Flame, Mane, Wemmbu, Kab, Ash, Derap, and given the opportunity, literally everyone, opposed him choosing to not kill. All tried to get him to kill or tried to talk him out of his logic.

S4 Vitalasy chose to explore a character who is not evil but has ultimate power. Everyone became hell bent on opposing him and making him see that he was being evil even though he was insisting he was not. 

S5 Ash, Jumper, Minute all chose to be “the good guys” and end the server in peace and Zam, Bacon, Mapicc, Ro, Clown, Leo and the whole server with their voting, diametrically opposed that as the ending and tried to get them to see how they were not good. 

S3 Zam chose to make an empire to repair spawn. Everyone opposed it, even at the last second when he got everyone to join his side again they all turned and joined the opposition when he said it would still be the “PrinceZam” empire. His character's empire.  

S5 Ro chose to “preserve spawn” with medusa and tried to “save everyone” with the end trap, and was violently opposed in the first case by everyone, and in the second by Mapicc who opposed not just with betrayal but with blowing himself up dramatically and banning himself to make Ro rethink his character deeply and realize he was completely alone because his beliefs. 

There’s a concept that it is a law of lifesteal that power must be opposed. 

This is true for simply having 20 hearts. Or being good at pvp. 

But it is more violently - psychologically, not physically - opposed when you are trying to influence the story with character motivations. Which I find imminently fascinating. 

Because the thing is, s3 Spoke was not opposed in the finale. People joined Zam, but as the server ticked towards its inevitable end, most players joined Spoke in ending it, or banned themselves off. But Zam, doing the character of saving the server, was opposed by Spoke and torn down through the convo on the hill and the convo in the base. 

And the opposition given to Spoke s4 wormhole wasn’t trying to stop him from doing it, to shame him out of it, it was just accepting the inevitable and trying to survive. 

But the opposition given to wormhole Zam by Parrot (and lesser extent by Planet) was to try and get him to stop this character and swap back to their side.

Do you get what I mean? It’s like every time you do anything “lore” you get torn down by everyone else. But when it’s a more objective content moment it’s just accepted and fought physically. 

Like nobody tries to talk Clown out of doing anything. 

But Zam Pangi and Mapicc all tried to talk Flame out of blowing up spawn, or violently opposed his methods for getting what he wanted. Flame wasn’t doing lore, but he was pushing the boundaries of content (fight me) and lore (blowing up spawn as a way to influence you to do my fight) 

Somehow, even though lore very much exists on this server, it will always be opposed. Out of spite, out of boredom, out of believing that you’re being boring with the character. 

But it’s a brutal environment honestly. One that you either survive or leave. And not everyone survives. 

The stakes are high. And every good story need high stakes.

And if you manage to survive, you become an unstoppable force capable of weaving lore and story and character and emotion that goes far beyond any story created by another minecraft server. 

[thesweetestdevotion]

enhypen on coachella reading please!!

Oh is Enhypen gonna be in Coachella??👀 lets see the energy of it!!

Enhypen at Coachella, Reading the Energy:

Dice: 7th house, Venus, Pisces

Their Overall Energy:

Tarot: Eight of Wands, The High Priestess Reversed, Ace of Swords, Nine of Cups, Two of Coins, The Star, Nine of Swords, Ten of Wands, The Lovers Reversed, Knight of Coins, Ace of Coins Reversed

There’s a lott of energy here about this hehe. Im seeing they’re kinda nervous. they feel like it happened very fast? Or that it is approaching quickly and there is a lot of emphasis put on their work at the moment. they could be feeling overwhelmed and stressed, there seems to be a lot of work to do and many things to account for at this time. they feel very stressed about this haha, but there’s also an overwhelmingly exciting feeling from them too. I think it’s something they’ve thought about doing before, but now that it is happening there’s a lot of emotions about it. They feel nervous about how they will be perceived, but also excited about having the opportunity to be there. They understand the stakes, it seems like there was a lot of time and money put into this so they feel like they have to do their best to show up and be perfect. they could be overworking, practicing, smoothing over any details and flaws at the moment. I also think they feel unstable, since they don’t know what is going to happen, all they can do is trust in each other and their teams to do the best they can.

How will it go?

Dice: Mercury, 3rd House, Leo

Tarot: Ten of Cups, Knight of Swords, Ace of Cups, The World, Eight of Coins Reversed, Seven of Cups, The Emperor Reversed, Five of Cups

I think it will go very well!! Im seeing they will be emotional after? Maybe some tears haha. But I see this will catapult them into many new opportunities, I’m seeing they’re gonna be overwhelmed with how many choices they will have. this will feel like they’ve completed a cycle and are going to start a new one. They might also feel very out of control, like the universe is putting them in paces without them having to ask or do anything about it. I also see they will be able to rest after haha. I feel like they’re going to be well liked? In the area in which they will be preforming, i think they’ll be able to communicate well with the audience and the local people. There is an aura of success, big celebrity energy! They’re gonna have fun lol, we might see them having fun around the place of the performance.

Wishing them the best!!

Hope you guys like this, lmk if you like these kinds of readings too! <3

[sugarpasteltmnt]

i am currently catching up on neon void, and it is a delight to read. your descriptions of leo’s mind is mesmerizing and grabs the reader’s attention so well. it’s very diverse and unique compared to other interpretations and fics♥️

i’m curious to know what your thinking process was like while writing leo’s insanity and his own thought processes.

(spoilers for ch11) the scene that stuck out to me the most was when leo was about to infect donnie. it felt so vulnerable and raw ahh

anyways i just want to dig into your mind a little to know how it works.

keep up the great work, you are doing wonderful.

WAAA THANK YOU SO MUCH 😭😭😭 you are so sweet thank you!! 💙💗‼️and ohmigosh what a fun ask.

tbh i sat on this one for a while to think of how to dive into it-- beware of my (VERY) long ramblings below!

this question really got me Thinkin' and i kinda popped off but!! If i may indulge myself, here's sort of a wild explanation of how i approach Leo's Insane Brain for this specific fic:

does it meet R.I.S.E???

R - Realistic? I - Interesting? S - Silly? E - Existential?

R - Realistic

"How the hell do i make this sound realistic" is often an obstacle i run into. but it's also the Secret Sauce. What really gives the thought process direction. Given Leo's current situation, he's battling between what he wants and what he needs to do. Which is often a very real problem real people have. Exaggerating it helps create a fun back-and-forth dialog that can make his thoughts seem muddled.

With Leo in this fic’s setup, there are about five main key factors i rely on with his decision making:

Happiness The root of Leo’s general personification. He’s the guy who beat Krang One. The one who escaped a place worse than Hell. After years of missing home so much he’s FINALLY home. He’s drunk on happiness. He was finally home. And that relief and joy is what makes him so jubilant and goofy.

Awareness of his goal Though Rise Leo is a very funny dude, he's still a Leonardo. Throughout the series, Leo is the voice of reason when things are getting out of hand or are potentially dangerous. Leo's had nothing but time to think. Wishing what he'd done different. Wishing he had been more serious. After five years obsessing over his mistake and missing his family, the moment he see's the opportunity to make sure this never happens again he'll latch onto it. And when the stakes are high, accentuating that tension can help with frantic impact of his thinking.

His desire to see his family This desire often clashes with point number 2. Writing his internal struggle between the two helps with the “overwhelmed thoughts” vibe. It’s hard for him to choose! And he doesn’t wanna have to choose! Playing out the conflict between his 'want' vs his 'need to do' helps me bring out his nervous thinking process.

He's self-reprimanding thoughts We all love an Angsty Leo. It was hinted in the show that he had some self-esteem issues, but who doesn't love ramping it up to 11 for a fic??? That, and he was trapped with Krang this whole time. After hearing he was nothing but trash for five years PLUS the guilt of nearly ending the world, the guy doesn't exactly see himself in a great light you know? This can help clash with point 1, again helping with that 'what he wants' vs 'what he needs to do' inner conflict.

Instinct to Survive / Feral Tendencies This one is super fun. I love feral AUs/tropes. With little to no socialization in the Prison Dimension, Leo's sanity started to slip, leaving his body's natural instincts to become more profound. Plus, with the Krang Parasite, I like to exaggerate how feral/dangerous he could be outside of 'turtle' instincts. (Seeing that parasite hosts in the movie were very violent). Sprinkling in feral moments is just a delicious thrill I love adding, and it makes the insanity factor skyrocket and it's so fun to write 🩵🩵🩵

I - Interesting

Is Leo's thought process interesting to read??? Honestly, I just gun for what I think is the most interesting; Leo's relationship with his brothers (especially Raph), and the cause and effects of his shenanigans.

Also, I liked to experiment with wonky texts to help emphasize key moments or words to grab attention. Mostly because it feels like a fun surprise to read them in my opinion. Though not necessary in writing, I thought using some funky fonts might entice and excite 💙

S- Silly

THE BIG ONE!!! EVERYONE'S FAVORITE!!! 🎉��🥳🎉 Something I really love love love about Rise's style is that it's silly It's unique! It's fun! I love that Leo and the others are goofy and have some slap-stick moments. And I wanted to keep that with Leo despite everything. Plus, I ADORE that in this iteration of TMNT, the characters are such showmen. They are DRAMATIC. They are SILLY. And that's something I wanna celebrate!! Plus, as much as I love angst, writing nothing but pure angst is exhausting. (And I'm sure reading pure angst isn't enjoyably to everyone.) Throwing in Silly moments is like a little moment of refreshment to me 🩵

I also like to believe that Leo kept his sense of humor out of sheer SPITE. The 'wipe that stupid grin off your face' line in the movie really stuck with me. I feel like Leo would smile through his fear and still be a clown just to spite Krang One.

E - Existential

At the end of the day, Leo is dealing with a VERY big issue. I felt like the Rise movie did an excellent job portraying the severity of an alien invasion for the setting Rise had. And the weight of the situation would be too great for one person. And this is often what I refer back to to make Leo snap. A relapse in clarity of mind. A moment for the panic and PTSD to come back in full force and make him rely on his instincts. Usually the feral instincts he became more attuned with while fleeing/fighting Krang One. It also goes hand-in-hand with his awareness of his goal (as mentioned in 'Realistic' above).

And that's kinda a word-vomit of how it goes!! Honestly??? The tug-o-war between conflicting thoughts helps me write the madness in his head. It's been super fun and interesting, and I hope it's been fun to read!!! (Though I'm telling you now I will NOT be doing those floating text tables again OOF)

Thank you again for the ask it was super fun to think about ;w; 🩵‼️

[bvckbiter]

some thoughts on characterization of the seven in hoo, VERY long post ahead:

for each of the five books in the series, i read them right as they came out and endured the year-long wait til the next release. like many readers, i was thrown off by the introduction of the new trio in the lost hero. but that was offset by 1) the seemingly more mature vibe/themes that riordan wanted to explore, 2) the monumental tension that was being built around the greek-roman separation, and 3) percy's comeback in son of neptune, even as an amnesiac.

mark of athena, released october 2012, was extremely anticipated because it was set to be the long-awaited percabeth reunion as well as the true crossover for the greek and roman spheres. there were a lot of theories being made at the time. would piper be able to mediate between eons-long enemies in a genuinely diplomatic way, or was she going to brainwash charmspeak them into compliance? how is reyna going to take jason suddenly having another girl and a new set of friends and another life after abruptly disappearing? will we get to learn more about jason's relationships within camp jupiter? would nico be dealing with any fallout from essentially boating along two riverbanks (translated directly from a tagalog idiom, so if the wording seems clunky thats why)? it didn't help that the first avengers movie came out in 2012, so the idea of a huge crossover event was all the hype then.

the published work, in my opinion... fell considerably short of expectations.

to be fair, we got some very good character moments. i did not find the judo flip scene cute, just kinda weird in the sense that i felt the author didn't know how to handle such a huge emotional turning point, but percabeth for the most part of moa was enjoyable, really giving you the high of this teenage couple finally being able to resume the honeymoon period they were probably in after four years of pining and a war lol. everything the fans wanted! unfortunately, we didn't get the same with other characters.

while i wouldn't say that percabeth was the reason, the difference in spotlight is nonetheless very staggering. the roman-greek reunification goes bad, sure, but it begins due to outside interference more rather than any actual intrinsic differences between the two camps; so the built-up tension from the previous books kinda falls flat. we get none of jason's backstory, so next to percy, he barely leaves an impression on the reader. hazel, frank, and leo get shafted into this weird love triangle where their enemy is leo's long-dead ancestor who ultimately makes no impact on the plot other than to have hazel and leo intersect somehow, contributing to leo's man-angst of being the seventh wheel. frank, who arguably has the most interesting set of powers and lineage, is basically relegated to being the muscle and hazel's (understandably) jealous boyfriend. piper... good lord. thats probably a whole other post, so i'll just say: cornucopia.

and yet, despite the disparity in characterization... you don't really feel that percabeth has a character arc or development per se. it's an odd contrast, with percy and annabeth getting a lot of time but pretty much remaining stagnant characters, as opposed to the other five who are written pretty blandly, but have valid, explicit inner struggles and questions they must face. for jason, it's being greek or roman. for hazel and leo, they want to parse their connection, even at the expense of frank, who is still struggling with his self-esteem. piper comes into her own power.

so despite being a book full of twists and turns, especially for percabeth, this is where you really feel the stakes begin to slump. decisions are being made to move the plot from point a to point b pretty straightforwardly, but there's not a ton of effort to make you invested in these characters other than what we know about them from previous books and the fact that they have a role to play in this apocalyptic second great prophecy.

but there's still two books left! the yearlong wait demands patience and creativity. surely percabeth falling into tartarus is going to make for some interesting development and impact. it was a brilliant plot twist, after all. with the darker turn that hoo was seemingly taking, there could have been so many consequences. percabeth could shut the doors of death from their side and come back alive, but come back wrong—unearthing old traumas, questioning and ultimately foreswearing their loyalty to the gods, threatening the reunification of the greek and roman aspects, etc.

and once again, house of hades... only semi-delivered? the tartarus chapters were certainly harrowing: percy choking akhlys is still a Scene of All Time to me because it felt earned, after all that percy has been through and what the series has been building up to! annabeth also having to face all the times she's been abandoned in her life, while less focused on, was also a very poignant moment for her character. they were events that seemed to push for development.

back on the argo ii, there's a continuing case of kind of low-effort writing on the other characters. frank and his mars blessing, for one; you kind of understand what rick was getting at, but... what! piper... girl idk what she was doing other than seeing visions in her dagger. leo... ue ue ue. jason commits to chb, but ofc he does because neither he nor we know/remember much about cj, so we don't really feel the loss! but there is one exception for his part, and that is of course the (in)famous cupid scene with nico, but i'll talk about nico much later.

hazel is an interesting case, so here's another paragraph for her. she gets to come into (more of) her powers just like piper did in the previous books, but from my viewpoint, it was considerably less engaged with who she was as a character compared to piper. in mark of athena, piper still struggles with being a daughter of aphrodite and how she can be "useful" as we know she struggles with internalized misogyny. on the other hand, hazel gets in touch with her mother's background... kinda? idk if controlling the mist can be considered equivalent to marie's voodoo; i dont think so. she certainly gains more understanding of her pluto heritage, too, and has this nice back-and-forth with hecate about creating her own path, but you don't really get the sense that doing so has consequences, or that she concretely shirked other paths to get where she was at.

where mark of athena fell flat with character stakes, house of hades to its credit does manage to up the ante—but only truly for percabeth. with all the resolutions to the character arcs in this book, you don't feel that the characters have anymore stakes or reasons to fight gaea other than the fact that she's still coming for them and they are in turn prophesied to defeat her. the one big thing that could be personal to them, which are the camps, ultimately fall under the purview of coach hedge, nico, and reyna, who are side characters, upgraded to main characters in the last book of a series already overbloated by shifting povs and favoritism.

ultimately, this is why blood of olympus falls apart. the best characterization work done, which is on percabeth and their time in tartarus, is in the end of no consequence and is barely mentioned. it's as if nothing has happened. all the build-up and investment fizzles out because in boo and beyond, even though they went through literal hell, they just shook it off (because accdg to rick demigods are extra resilient and don't get traumatized lmfao). the climactic face-off against gaea is headed by jason, piper, and leo, and it has no pay off. the books haven't dwelled on them as a trio after tlh because leo was too busy angsting about his love triangle, and jason's and piper's arcs, both individual and romantic, are shoddy, to say the least. to add insult to injury, leo's sacrifice is a fake-out! so he can finally shed the fucking seventh wheel arc that came about not because of a genuine exploration of how he has been outcasted all his life, but because the argo ii mysteriously became demigod tinder and also because rick thought "haha how funny that the latino is the outrageous flirt!" frank and hazel... just get shafted im so sorry babygirls T_T

what saves boo is not the cast of the seven that we have spent the five books journeying with. no, what saves boo is the three side characters suddenly made main characters because. well, fan favoritism and pandering. nico, reyna, and coach hedge comprised the only arc that wasn't an absolute slog to read through—high stakes, chemistry, and well-rounded character arcs that complemented each other. no hoo scene is honestly more heartwarming than reyna embracing nico. it makes you question if hoo's length and frankly shocking quantity of main ensemble members even constricted the narrative that could've been told, as opposed to the original intention of expanding the world of percy jackson through more povs. five books with at least 700-800+ pages each for five years. what a tremendous amount of time and energy to be wasted.

and there is, of course, the question of "should percabeth have been in hoo." until house of hades, my answer was yes. the fact that their tartarus arc fizzled into nothingness changed my answer to no. taking the whole series into perspective, if their treatment in boo was all that the hype and tension would amount to, it would've been better if they'd been relegated to side characters with mentor/helper roles as opposed to taking the spotlight away from the rest of the seven. their succeeding cameos in the other series + the new college reco trilogy makes the blunder all the more grievous.

heroes of olympus did give us a new cast of characters to love. along with all its racist stereotypes and pitfalls, it also diversified the percy jackson world. if not for the mid-2010s fandom who took up the slack of unexplored storylines and potential, these characters would be very much not impressioned on us. and as a successor to a series that was so deeply driven by family, friendship, love, and belonging, that it couldn't consistently humanize its main cast was the biggest sin.

[orchard-keeper]

!!!~Fic Recs~!!! (Pt. II)

Here is a follow-up to my last post of Fic Recs (in which I listed my favorite completed multi-chapter ROTTMNT fics).

In this post I'll be recommending ongoing multi-chapter fics. In no particular order, here they are:

There Must Be Something in the Water by Filsamek

-This fic has been such a delight to read. The premise is interesting and even chilling, and the ways in which the turtles have to puzzle out how to solve the problem at hand has been exciting to follow along with. Very interested to see how the conflict will be resolved and what further Mystic concepts the author will introduce!

Blood, Water, and Thicker Things by JumpingInMuddyPuddles

-While this fic has but 4 chapters thus far, I am absolutely psyched for future updates! This is, in a way, a "sick fic" but combined with Leo pushing his needs aside and facing imminent danger while suffering AND featuring a Leo-Donnie team-up mystery with action and high-stakes...! In the words of Donnie in Lair Games: Nom nom. Nomnomnom.

The Old College Try by theashemarie @theashemarie

-There is just something about this fic that grips me in such a way that it almost hurts to discuss. Leo's characterization feels very accurate and very real, and somehow the ways in which he struggles with his identity in general as well as his identity surrounding intelligence/academia really hit me in the heart. I don't know if it's because I already relate to Leo so much, or if its because of my own (academic) experience of feeling like no one will take me seriously and having that odd and alienating (ADHD-related no doubt) infantalization grate on me, but... the ways in which Leo has to confront his relationship with his place on the team, the character he plays, his true interests and passions, and his relationship with his brother who has claimed the title of "the intelligent one" is hard-hitting. Add to that the struggles of humanity/fitting in with society, of the seemingly inherent selfishness of valuing your own pursuits despite risks or pitfalls therein... the tension is amazing. Oh, did I mention-- this is about Leo and Donnie going to university lmao. But its actually also about so much more, as you can see... Overall: this author is a master of character depiction and I cannot wait to see how the rest of the story unfolds...! Donnie in this fic is also so wonderfully rendered. Best of all are Leo and Donnie's interactions in such a foreign setting, and them having to (re-)learn to navigate one another's feelings this new environment brings out. Ah! Good, good stuff. And if that does not convince you, there's also action, a prominent villain, impossible choices....!

All the Ashes in My Wake by paperxcrowns @crows-murder

-Ooh, I can just tell this one is setting up to be some serious Leo angsting. The premise works so well, and I'm eagerly awaiting for that moment when Leo can no longer keep hiding things from his brothers and the dam breaks. The suspense of wondering how that's going to happen is so, so good. Also, insane dramatic irony that is causing sooo much angst. Leo's brothers hurting him/unknowingly forcing him to do things because of a curse... Dramatic! Irony! Delicious.

Last Grain of Sand in the Hourglass by TjLockticon @last-hourglass

-This fic is a sort of alternate take on the ending of the movie, wherein Leo stays trapped in the prison dimension, but not because Mikey's portal failed– rather, because it brought Future Leo back to the past instead. The ensuing chaos and angst is really well-done, and my favorite parts were actually how each brother came to terms with the situation and how to react around this version of their brother, all while their 'true' brother is still trapped and suffering. The chapters with Present Leo in the prison dimension are a really unique take on his experience there. Another thing I found very intriguing is how Leo's Mystic powers and his swords are included in the plot. I'm looking forward to seeing what further angst lays ahead and how the author chooses to resolve the complexities of feeling introduced with the bros getting attached to Future Leo and also Casey's suffering at the idea that this situation cannot endure, and he will lose his sensei all over again. Wild!!

Alpha Stage by snailsnaps @snailsnaps

-Oh I have so much to say about this fic. The premise is so heart-wrenching and interesting, and scratches that itch (in a way) of having had the planned turtle tots episode canceled. And yet, Donnie is still totally himself, mentally, despite being tot-sized. What is a total delight is the art in this fic. Each illustration is so charming and impeccable and adds to much to the story. I keep coming back to it, and I'm excited to see where the author takes the narrative!

The Same Little Faces by awkwardusagi

-This fic also scratches the itch of the canceled turtle tot episode, but the focus on this one is particularly on Leo being turned back into a tot! I love this take because the author explores the dynamic between Mikey getting to be a big bro for the first time, Donnie and Raph witnessing this, and Splinter giving all of them tips and tricks he knows about how to wrangle hyperactive turtle mutant babies. It also has the interesting and really innovative idea that tot Leo retains the memories and experiences of teenage Leo in his subconscious, and this plays a significant role in the plot. I won't say much more, but the cast of characters and how they slot into the big kerfuffle at hand is also so fun! Particularly my favorite Hippo and Worm duo... and Señor Hueso! The relationships explored are so captivating and heart-wrenching in their tenderness. Leo's insecurities manifested in the form of a turtle tot who cannot hide away their pain from their family... ahhh! It's overall super fun and super sweet and I felt so gripped by the narrative. I'm really interested to see how the author will resolve the conflict!

I May Be Invisible, but I Still Look Good by Dandy @dandylovesturtles

-Ohhhh my gosh, where to even begin with this fic... It follows Leo's (mis)adventures dealing with a Mystic curse that renders him invisible, intangible, and inaudible. I feel like I can't say much about the plot because I don't want to spoil the experience of reading it– each installment of puzzle-solving regarding Leo's curse is so unique and intense and gratifying to experience, so I won't go into too much detail. Leo's characterization is so wonderful and feels so real. His thoughts and reactions and struggles and how he chooses to endure them and cope with them is just... so Leo. Which means that there is a lot of silent suffering, of course! We love to see it. (I'll also briefly note that this extends to all the brothers! I just mention Leo particularly because we are in his head.) The author's ability to depict Leo's panic attacks and dissociation is my favorite I've encountered. It's also, of course, entirely heartbreaking to read. The enemies and the Mystic curse are incredibly engaging as well; they feel very much like classic fantasy adventure obstacles/antagonists that I used to read as a child, which is such a fun thing in the setting of Rise, and fits in very well. It's so believable within the universe. I'm super excited to see how the breaking of the curse will play out! I've probably re-read the fic in its entirety 2-3 times now, and each time it was equally as engrossing. Not only that– the author is such a master that I've noticed foreshadowing interlaced throughout, and that has been such a delight! This fic inspires me, and invigorates me, and leaves me wanting to read basically anything else from the author. I cannot recommend it enough!

Mutant Ninja Midlife Crisis by a_platypus

-This fic includes Future Leo being transplanted into the past, but his meeting with the turtles and April and Casey as well as the circumstances surrounding his presence are not so innocent. The tension and dramatic irony created by this set-up are gripping and exciting. And kinda makes me wanna smack a Leo (or two). The dialogue and relationships are so well-written, and the pacing is really nice. Everything feels very in-character and believable and intense. Also, just an aside, but the interactions between Present Leo and Future Leo feel so believable, and the way they change how they relate to one another over time feels very organic and natural. It's handled and presented very well, and is one of the central reasons I'm excited to see how the plot progresses moving forward.

The Aftermath by Starrcrossrose

-This fic is set post-movie, and focuses on the healing process Leo (and the others) have to undergo, and all the complicated emotions involved. There's particular emphasis on the relationship between Leo and Donnie. The author does an amazing job showing the reader what is going through both their heads and how they're struggling under the burden of Leo's decision to sacrifice himself, as well as the circumstances surrounding this (namely, Leo's mental health). It's heart-wrenching to see them both struggle under this burden and knowledge, and even more so to witness how it drives a wedge between them. Another aspect of this fic that I love is the angst surrounding the idea that Leo is doing all he can to cope and to heal, but his family is so worried and so anxious for him that they push him to recover more quickly, and this actually ends up complicating things and even making things harder for Leo. The frustration is real! The depiction of a well-meaning family making a suffering family member feel even more isolated, ironically, feels very realistic and therefore all the more maddening and heartbreaking. The recent chapters made me have to go and like. Lie down. It's that intense. And that good.

As before, I did my best to figure out which authors have accounts on here and tag them, but if I've missed you/you know the author's @, please let me know and I'll update the post!

[splosh-crime]

Lazarus Pit - DC x Riordanverse

Nico di Angelo and Pollux meet and save either Jason Todd, Tim Drake, or Damian Wayne at the Lazarus Pit and take them to Camp Halfblood.

Hades & Thanatos requested that Nico di Angelo and the only surviving Son of Dionysus, Pollux, rectify the problem of the Lazarus Pits.

Every Death/Underworld God of every pantheon has agreed that the Pits are an abomination of maddeningly corruptive resurrection that never should have been used, especially not for immortality. Ra’s al Ghul will face eternal punishment for his crimes in whichever underworld he ends up in.

As the most experienced child of Hades alive and the only one with teleportation powers, Nico was an obvious choice for the mission. Pollux, however, was chosen because of his father’s control over insanity and lesser known association with rebirth. Unfortunately, because Nico is a Prince of the Underworld, it goes against his very nature to touch liquid resurrection, and doing so would leave harsh burns on his skin in addition to the average effect of Pit Rage. A bottomless pot was forged and enchanted to fully drain the pits but even then, the essence bleeding through is too much. In order to combat this, a son of rebirth and insanity (Pollux) must be sent to drain and hold the pot while Nico acts as transport and defense from the League of Assassins.

While most of the Pits are drained with little to no problem thanks to Leo’s hacking and Nico soul sight, it’s the last Pit where the plan goes awry. Which bat the boys meet next is up for your choosing. A choose your own adventure for writers who already have that option anyway.

Personally, I believe either Jason or Tim to be the most plausible to be in the Pit Room and in such a bad situation that the demigods would feel the need to intervene. Jason because, obviously, he’d be about to get dunked in it to restore his mental capacity and demigods know that’s an awful idea. Not to mention that Pollux could ask Dionysus to fix that instead if needed. Once his mind’s back, he’s going to be absolutely pissed that so many kids are being used as child soldiers, cannon fodder, and monster food with little to no outside help. After he reunites with his family, he’ll definitely be setting up a series of fully-stocked safe houses with hero contacts taking shifts to protect them from monsters if not all are secure enough with bat tech. When he’s older, he’ll probably adopt some.

Tim because he just lost his Spleen and surgery isn’t cutting it so they also need to dunk him. The demigods take him to Camp for Apollo Cabin surgery. It’d be kind of weird for Will Solace to be a better surgeon than one hired by the al Ghuls (even if he’s a demigod) but it’s action/adventure fiction so we can afford to be handwavey about it. He’d definitely set up a safe house system too, but might not adopt a demigod when he’s older.

The demigods could also meet Damian since obviously he grew up there but I seriously doubt he’d be in there without Ra’s and/or Talia personally overseeing his safety. And while these demigods are good, 500 yrs of combat experience is pretty damn hard to beat (especially since many of the giants and titans probably relied more on brute force/power than skill) and Talia’s no slouch either, not to mention that it’s unlikely that Damian would be physically abused in that room badly enough to need intervention during such a high-stakes quest. He might not see the need for a safe house system, but when he meets/reunites with the batfam, Jason at least would probably still set it up.

[familyofpaladins]

What are some of your favorite character relationships/dynamics in TMNT, and why? Is there anything that you particularly like seeing explored with them in fan works (art, writing, comics, etc)?

Thanks for the ask! Great question!

Oh man, theres so many dynamics I like!

Let's see...

Well. I guess first off, I love the dynamics between all four brothers as a whole! When one gets separated off, both sides work so hard to get back to the other(s). Doesnt matter who it is, its "gotta get back to them" "gotta bring him home". They love each other so much and would do anything for any one of them. Any one of them would probably sacrifice himself to save the rest of his brothers of he thought it was the only way (some more likely to do that than others *coughleocough*), meanwhile the rest of the brothers would be like "uh no. Stop that shit right now. You're not allowed to die". I just love how dedicated they all are to each other and the ends they're willing to go to to keep each other safe.

A little more specifically, I like Leo and Raph's dynamic/relationship. They're like two sides of the same coin. They're so similar, but their methods/approaches to situations are a little different so they end up clashing a lot. But like I said before, they love each other would do anything for each other. No matter the iteration, and how big/bad of a fight they've had, they're always gonna have each other's backs.

Like, for example, in the 2003 series, one of the few times they actually clashed angrily (and not just momentary sibling bickering) was in season 2, the 3 part episode arc "City at War". During that time they've defeated(or so they think) the shredder, and differnt gangs are fighting over who gets control of the parts of the city that the foot used to control. Leo and Raph argue about whether or not they have a responsibility to stop the gangs from taking over the city.

At one point during their arguing (and fighting other gangs) Raph crashes a bus and gets trapped in it, and fire is about to light the leaked-all-over fuel. Leo immediately jumps into the over turned bus to get his brother out while they're still arguing!

Like!!! Its truly a moment showing their dynamic. It's one of the few times they're really pissed at each other because they cant agree on what they should be doing, and they're pissed at the actions the other is taking, but when there's danger, they're going to run in and save the other! It's not even a question. Saving each other/having the other's back is such a part of who they are, that not even their biggest fight can (which is still going!) can stop them from helping each other.

(And sometimes the dynamic between Leo and raph kinda feels like the relationship me and my sister have. We annoy each other and can get on each others nerves. Or one of us assumes the other is mad and gets upset when it was actually fine. Sometimes my sister is in a mood and I have to be careful how I approach her or ask her a question otherwise she snaps. And I can see it being like that for Leo when Raph is in a mood. ((And that goes vice versa)) Its common across many iterations for Raph to think Leo is too rule-abiding, and Leo thinks Raph is too impulsive/hot-headed, and that feels like very familar arguments between me and my sister lol)

I also like the dynamics between April and the turtles, and how she's their friend/sister. And how she'll do just about anything for them and vice versa just like how the brothers are to each other.

As for fanworks, I guess I like anything that really shows how close and important they all are to each other. Whether that's whump fics where they rescue/take care of each other, or art of them in a sleepy turtle pile.

Honestly anything that just shows how much they all love each other, whether is mundane or high stakes situations, is really nice. :)

[perseidlion]

This is probably gonna rub some people the wrong way but...I think two things are true, re: The Acolyte:

Some Star Wars fans were hostile to The Acolyte because it starred a woman and most of the supporting cast were women and/or POC so they were never going to support it.

AND

The Acolyte was not a very good show.

SPOILERS BELOW.

If the show had starred a white man and had more nostalgia bait, it probably would have been renewed, let's be honest. But that doesn't mean it was a good show or it would have been better with those changes. It just would have meant the hardcore complainers would have supported it just because it was Star Wars.

A lot of Star Wars stuff is getting multiple seasons when the shows themselves are lacklustre. And don't get me wrong...this isn't necessarily a bad thing. I think the networks cancel shows WAAAAAY too fast these days. How many great shows can we think of that had kinda shitty first, second, and even third seasons that went on to be classics and huge hits? So when I say the show wasn't great, that doesn't mean I think it deserved to get cancelled. But also we aren't stuck between a binary of "a great show got cancelled unfairly" and "an awful show got deservedly cancelled." There's nuance here.

Full disclosure: I am an extremely casual Star Wars fan. So on the surface, I was the perfect potential audience member for The Acolyte. It was a show that tried to stand on its own merits without a dozen callbacks and references that only appeal to hardcore fans/fans with nostalgia feels. I was fully willing to accept it as just a solid science fantasy show that happened to be set in the Star Wars universe.

Frankly, I was bored through most of it. I like Amandla Stenberg, but I don't think she did a very good job differentiating Osha/Mae and she didn't do a great job getting us to root for her.

The show also set up tension only to immediately diffuse it, or the tension they teased all season turned out to be no tension at all. The mystery of what the Jedi did on Brendok should have been central to the story. It should have been kept secret and concealed. And it should have been darker than it actually turned out to be. That's what had to happen for that to work. Like, the Jedi were ordered by a corrupt high council member to purge the coven or something. THAT would have been interesting and worth the narrative stakes. Instead, an accident, impossible choices, and bad circumstances were at the heart of the whole show.

The show also wants us to root for Mae after she straight-up murdered a bunch of Jedi masters in cold blood in the first few episodes. That's a hard thing to ask Star Wars fans to come back from, especially when the Jedi's "crimes" were revealed, which for most of them ended up being "were present when an injustice occurred."

Qimir had so much potential as a villain and Manny Jacinto's performance almost justified the whole show's existence. Unfortunately, his introduction was fumbled. Everyone figured out very quickly that he was the mysterious master. Again, zero narrative tension.

There are a lot of good ideas in The Acolyte, and a lot of potential. Unfortunately, it fumbled a lot of those ideas and the whole thing just ended up being a mess. It is a shame because if a certain segment of the SW fandom hadn't been so hostile to it for even daring to exist, we might have seen those problems ironed out in a second season and beyond. But it'll never get that chance, and that's a shame.

I would LOVE to see more exploration of the hypocrisy of the Jedi and the imperfect nature of their philosophy. I think that's something baked into the DNA of Star Wars, especially from the prequels onward. It's a rich bit of story fuel, and it was refreshing to see a show that wasn't just crammed full of stuff to make you do the Leo point at the screen or go "I got that reference."

Two more things are also true:

The Acolyte was not a very good show

AND

It deserved the support of Star Wars fans and a second season to try and do better.

[tabl3]

ef incorrect quotes #3 (ft. Adam and Leo)

Casually in the Middle of a High Stakes/Dangerous Situation leo: How do you eat pickles? kaz: What do you mean? leo: I mean, there's a whole process. It's not like you can grab them from the jar with your hand, because it's cold and the juice burns if you have a cut, plus, it's pretty unsanitary. And you can't use a spoon because you'll have to scoop it out, and it'll be way too difficult to grab more than three or four without taking 10 minutes along with half the brine in the jar, even if it's one with holes. kaz: Yeah, that's why you use a fork. leo: Okay, sure, but what if you don't have one of the big ones clean? It's weird to use a small one. But there is always one of those smaller sharp knives clean. kaz: But the straight edge doesn't really fit the cylindrical shape, and you have to make sure you don' t break it, it's too much work. leo: It makes me feel like I deserve the pickles though. Like, "Yeah, I did it. That's right. Good job me." It's empowering. But even after that, it's not like you can use a bowl. kaz: I get that, it's not aesthetically pleasing. leo: Exactly! And it looks weird if you don't entirely fill the bowl, but you also can't eat that many. My solution: Use a mug. kaz: Nods in agreement chase: That is all very interesting, BUT WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DIE RIGHT NOW! USE YOUR LIMITED ATTENTION SPANS AND FOCUS! leo: Jeez, okay. kaz: Quit yelling at us already.

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skylar: When bree was born, the gods said, "She's too perfect for this world." oliver: Please. When she were born, the devil said, "Oh, competition."

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chase: I am going to need you to swear- adam : Fuck. chase: chase: …swear as in promise.

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chase: You get turned back into a baby but you retain all your skills and memory, what do you do? leo: Eat a nickel. skylar: A reminder: You have retained all your skills and memories. adam : Eat a nickel. chase: Ok.

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kaz: Think you can answer some questions without the usual level of sarcasm? oliver: If you can ask the questions without the usual level of stupid.

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chase, working at McDonald's: Sorry sir, we don't serve a McFuck here, so either you throw that one slice of pickle out or we're gonna have a McProblem.

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leo and bree are in a car teetering on the edge of a cliff leo: oh my god, bree, backwards! bree: Really, leo? I thought I might go forwards into the river, I thought that would be a fun thing to do.

(chase had to come rescue them)

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chase: Hey, no, you stay out of this, this is between me and leo! adam : So leo knows about this? chase, walking away: No, this is between me and me!

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kaz : Can we go out to get ice cream? leo: Did you ask chase? kaz : He said no. leo: Then why did you ask me? kaz : He's not the boss of you. leo, internally: It's a trap, it's a trap, it's a trap.

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Computer: Please enter a password. adam : types in leo Computer: Your password is too weak. adam : How fucking DARE YOU-

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leo: Hey, oliver you're smart, tell me what would happen if I chugged 3 gallons of chloroform. oliver: Have you ever been to a mortuary? leo: Yea, my dad lives there. kaz: That is the worst response to that question.

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oliver: I don’t even have time to tell you how wrong you are. bree: Okay? oliver: … oliver: … oliver: Actually it’s gonna bug me if I don’t, so—

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kaz: What if people had food names and food had people names? leo: Hey, spaghetti, we’re having kaz for dinner. chase: What is wrong with you people? skylar: Shut up, chocolate.

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kaz: You’re alive. skylar: No need to sound so disappointed.

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kaz: Is the pink panther a lion? bree: Say that again but slower. kaz: I don’t get it. bree: He’s a PANTHER. kaz: Is that a type of lion? bree: No, it’s a fucking panther. kaz: googles panther They aren’t pink? bree: AND LIONS ARE?!

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leo: Why would you think any of this was a good idea?! chase: Probably because I’m a dangerous sociopath with a long history of violence. leo: Oh… skylar, from across the room: I don’t understand how you keep forgetting that.

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adam: Am I in trouble? chase : Take a guess. adam: No? chase : Take another guess.

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chase : Do I sound smart, or am I smart? bree: You sound unbearable, to be perfectly honest.

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adam : The floor is lava! skylar: helps bree onto the counter oliver: kicks kaz off the sofa chase: lays on the floor leo : …Are you okay? chase: No.

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kaz: So how’s the food chase made? bree: It's great! Compliments to him. kaz: goes to the kitchen kaz: You're adorable. chase: blushes

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Shapeshifter: *transforms to look like adam * adam : Okay, are you like BLIND? You look nothing like me. First off, I'm way taller. Secondly, I DO NOT look so sleep deprived and lastly, if you could drag comb through that hair you're like a 7 on a good day and I've been told I'm a constant 10.

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chase: is wearing silk pants How does this look? kaz: Like its slips on and off really easily. chase: kaz: No, I didn't mean it like that- bree: We know what you meant.

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kaz: Hostage or not, sometimes it’s nice being held. adam : Are you okay.

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bree: Ok so, apparently the "bad vibes" I've been feeling are actually severe psychological distress.

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oliver: What do we say when making bread? kaz, glumly: That's the dough rising. chase: And what do we NOT say? bree, sadly: That's the yeast fucking.

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kaz : What’s it like being tall? kaz : Is it nice? kaz : Can you reach comfortably for the cupboards? adam: We live in constant fear of the short ones who, in my experience, will climb 4 chairs, 2 boxes, a small coffee table and 6 oddly placed stools to get what they want. bree: It was one time!

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adam : My favorite thing about big dogs is that when you push them over, they're all like "Oh, I'm lying down now! Someone might scratch my stomach! I might nap! Endless possibilities!" skylar: …whereas, when you push little dogs over, they're all like, "Vengeance! Death before dishonor!"

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skylar: So, are you two dating now? kaz & chase: Yes. skylar: Why? kaz: I happen to find chase very appealing. skylar: Yeah, I can understand that. I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with chase.

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oliver: To be honest, I'm kinda pissed that I'm not asleep in bed next to the love of my life in a cottage with no obligations other than watering my vegetable garden.

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oliver, to leo: I mean, I get complimented all the time- bree: starts cackling oliver: I do! bree: laughs harder

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kaz, tearing up the room: Where are they? kaz, looking under a pillow: Who moved them? Who moved my children? kaz: Somebody moved my M&M's, and now I am going to start killing.

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kaz: The scariest president had to be Rushmore because he had four heads. oliver: Yeah, it’s a good thing we captured him in that mountain, even if we have to live in fear of the spell wearing off. adam : Do you two still believe in that legend? Come on, Rushmore was killed a hundred years ago! We’re safe now. leo: You people have clearly never taken a history lesson. His body was never found.

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chase: Do you have any skeletons in your closet? leo: Literally or figuratively? chase: I have to specify?

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oliver: Like they say, "If you can't beat them, curl up in a ball and protect your organs."

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leo: Croissants: dropped kaz: Road: works ahead adam: BBQ sauce: on my titties skylar: Shavacado: fre oliver: Miss Keisha: fuckin dead chase : chase : …I didn’t understand a single word of that and I hate every single one of you.

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chase: I only have two emotions: exhaustion and stress. And I’m somehow always feeling both simultaneously.

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bree: I have very high standards, you know. skylar: I can make spaghetti… bree: Oh no! You're meeting all my standards!

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chase: What is the one thing I told you not to do? adam : Burn the house down. chase: And what did you do? adam : I made dinner. chase: adam : chase: adam : And burnt the house down.

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leo: I mean, sure, I have my bad days, but then I remember what a cute smile I have.

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leo: mom is calling… hi mom. chase: Come on guys, stop. He's trying to talk to our mom. kaz: loud fake sexual noises oliver : EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP! bree: is asleep skylar: gets really close to the phone Tell her I said hi.

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bree: Being gay is a constant battle between "I wish to sit on a window bench with my lover, our legs tangling as we listen to the birds" and "Hey, let's go throw rocks at fascists" and I think that's very sexy of us. skylar: If the window's open and you time it right, we can do both.

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skylar: Sometimes, I don’t realize an event was traumatic until I tell it as a funny story and notice everyone is staring at me weird.

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bree: That’s a crazy idea. Insane. It doesn’t make sense. kaz: You’ll do it? bree: Of course.

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kaz: Where are you going? leo: Hell, eventually.

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skylar: You’re so funny! leo: Thanks; I’m desperate for people to like me.

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oliver: The first time skylar opened a box of Cheerios and looked inside she yelled, "OH WOW! DONUT SEEDS!"

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bree: Ugh, there’s always that weak bitch in the group who isn’t down with murder. team: glares at oliver oliver: Well, sorry I have morals!

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leo and bree are planning to break in somewhere leo: We need to distract the guards. bree: Right. leo: What are we gonna do? bree: I'm gonna break their elbows while you poke their eyes. leo: bree: leo: Deal.

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chase: Kill me nowwwww. bree: Sorry, no can do. I need your help with my homework.

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chase: You've been given a new job to do, but I'm worried it might make you angry. adam : Just say it quick, like ripping off a band-aid. chase: You have to teach leo how to drive. adam : …put the band-aid back on.

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kaz: Laughs Babe, you had a crush on me? That’s embarrassing— chase: We’re married.

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adam : My friends say I'm the most charismatic out of the group. oliver: Well, you always have a smile on your face. adam : Thank you. oliver: oliver: What drugs do you take?

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skylar: I dare you- oliver: kaz is not allowed to accept dares anymore. skylar: Why not? kaz: "I have no regard for my own or others personal safety", as some would say.

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adam : coughs blood chase: Don't die, adam ! adam : Don't tell me what to do!

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oliver: I just want someone to take me out. skylar: On a date? kaz: With a sniper gun? chase: Both if you're not a coward.

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kaz: I think this might be a bad idea… oliver: Don't start thinking on me now!

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when a child starts crying in public adam : tries to make the child laugh kaz: tries to play a game with the child to make them calm down chase: gives detailed instructions to the parents oliver: cries with the child bree: ignores the child leo: is the reason why the child is crying

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bree: You deserve a reward for putting up with me. skylar: You are my reward. meanwhile kaz: You deserve a reward for putting up with me. chase : True, you can be really difficult at times.

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The squad is asked what they would do with 5 children with only 3 chairs. chase: Get two more chairs! kaz: They can get their own chairs. skylar: Make them fight for it. bree: You only need one chair to beat them all with. oliver: I would never be near children. leo: Kill two.

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the Squad cleaning up oliver: Pick up the nearest piece of trash and throw it away. bree, to chase: Aight, which bin do you wanna go in—

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leo: I'm not creepy. leo: I'm petty. leo: There's a difference, ya' know.

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adam : walking around disappointed after visiting an aquarium bree: adam , what did you think a tiger shark was?

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skylar: If I make you breakfast in bed, a simple "thank you" is all I need. skylar: Not all this "how did you get into my house" business.

chase:

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chase, to oliver: If leo doesn't say "I'm King of the world" within an hour on that boat, I will give you my next pay check. leo, within 5 minutes of getting on the boat: I'M KING OF THE WORLD!!!

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oliver: We've got to find a way to cut down our expenses. What can we live without? adam : chase, probably.

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kaz: Remain CALM! slaps leo multiple times

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kaz: You know what I’ve realized? oliver: Some thoughts are better left unsaid? kaz: Nice try, anyways-

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skylar: How is the most beautiful person in the world? bree: blushing I— kaz, butting into the conversation: chase is perfect, thanks for asking.

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bree: You know, when leo comes over, kaz can get a little… oliver: Psycho? skylar: Scary? chase : Drunk? bree: All three.

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oliver: The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was changing her name to bree.

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bree & adam :Playing video games skylar: You guys woke up at 5:30 in the morning just to play games? bree: silence adam : silence skylar, finally figuring it out: …You two never went to sleep, did you? bree & adam in shame: Yeah…

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adam : English is CRAZY. Oregano is both a spaghetti leaf topping and a form of paper art! leo: What is this "paper art" you speak of? adam : That shit where you make cranes and stuff out of folded paper! leo: … adam.

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leo: I told kaz to grab snacks for everyone. bree, looking through the options: Why did you grab fruit snacks? Are you five? Who even likes Fruit Snacks? leo, kaz, and adam raise their hands

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Rats playing a board game together adam: I will put 'A' down to make 'A'. leo: I will add onto your 'A' to make 'AT'. bree : I will add onto your 'AT' to make 'RAT'. chase: I will add onto your 'RAT' to make 'BIOSTRATAGRAPHIC'. bree: flips the board

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chase: Ew. What kind of tea is this? adam : I boiled gatorade.

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kaz: skylar isn’t answering my messages. oliver: Allow me. kaz: I tried 6 times, what makes you thi- skylar : replying to message Hello.

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chase, texting leo: Text me when you’re home safely. leo: I’m home dangerously. chase: Stop it. leo: I’m home lethally.

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[mc-critical]

Ibrahim and Hatice's wedding in the show is the grandest, happiest, most feastful wedding of the series, with as many celebrations as can be. It's obvious why, of course: given the show has the most "foreign politics" plots at this very point, we have to have separate moments of the ambassadors and the people of power acknowledging that whole ordeal, it's the first ever royal wedding we see in the series and it's both a payoff of so many episodes of development of Ibrahim and Hatice's story, a high culmination point, and a setup of the right upcoming close matter of the Jannisary rebellion and the future, more far looming (or that's how it merely looks like) issues of Hatice and Ibrahim's relationship (Gülfem's usual prominence is set aside for a bit to make place for Nigar); each wedding in the show signifies a major change to the status quo, but namely Hatice and Ibrahim's wedding accentuates that the most, as it doesn't just have someone permanently moving to a new place/castle (Hatice here and in E94, Nigar in E44-5, Mihrimah in E99 etc.), giving birth (Mihrimah to Ayşe Hümaşah after her own wedding, but Hürrem to Selim during Hatice's wedding) or getting wounded (Ibrahim during Hürrem's wedding, mirroring E10-E11 a bit) and new twists on established dynamics (not just the wed couples but also Mahidevran and Hürrem, SS and Mustafa, Hürrem and Leo in E17; Nigar and Ibrahim in E17 and E44-5; Hürrem, Hatice and Ibrahim, Hürrem and all the others in general in E42-3; Ibrahim and Matrakci in E44-5 etc.), but it also has a timeskip, showing the older kids to literally stress that a next stage of the characters' lives is coming forth. We get to see what a wedding is like for the first time, in its fullest and most detailed to accustomize ourselves even more in this world, so this may allow for the other weddings to lean on a more individual focus of the characters of the wedding themselves and what the wedding entails for them and those around them, the celebrations dimish and even the time the wedding's given could do so too depending on the narrative point of said wedding (more time could be given to the aftermath of the wedding than the wedding itself like in Nigar and Matrakci's case), formal weddings for ulterior, political purposes and alliances increase much more (while Hatice and Ibrahim's wedding is one of the biggest exceptions in the series and it's fascinating that we begin with it) and we get to have more bittersweetness or outright tragedy if the wedding is such for the characters. The weddings aren't only happy, they can also be like a funeral and we gradually arrive at a stage where we can actually observe that, not having it simply be hinted at (like Hürrem and Hatice's respective weddings to Lala Kasim's son and Mehmet Celebi were hinted at). The grander yet more interpersonal stakes and the bigger lean inside the empire are punctuated by the weddings as well.

{All that is to also say that it's sad that Hürrem claims that she won't get the wedding Hatice gets but Mihrimah will get it instead, when precisely hers and SS's wedding is the closest to Hatice and Ibrahim's in terms of massiveness, unprecedentedness (a big shift in traditions due to a love match as well, or rather, an even bigger one as a sultan hasn't freed and married a concubine for a looong time), structure (ceremony, feasts for the people as well as for those around the sultan and a major parallel event during the wedding, in this case Ibrahim's wounding) and feel (yes, a sorrowful element is around for everyone other than the married people this time instead of the everpresent happiness in Ibrahim and Hatice's wedding that contrasts only with Mahidevran's anguish that isn't even about the wedding, but an even bigger joy is presented for Süleiman and especially Hürrem; in E42 itself, the focus is all on the double joy with the ongoing princely circumcision and the surprising wedding in the very end, while E17 has an ongoing wedding and the surprising birth, so the focus shifts more), while Mihrimah's is a genuinely sorrowful wedding, more parallel to Hatice's E94 wedding than her E17 wedding instead.}

[r-0-x-4-s]

so... i watched tottmnt and i didn't love it

also why isnt this show being hated on whaaaat, every tmnt show has to go through the initial hate, thats like the law /hj

tw opinions under the cut

it just felt so... empty?? i dont really know how to explain it but, the lack of brothers interacting and anything ninja related, kinda made me frown

why did it feel nothing like a tmnt show??? my brother said "it looks like it took some ideas from rottmnt and just... made it worse", and in a way i agree? its like, in a way, this show wants to please everyone but doesn't have the balls to go full original and new like rise did...

i was very optimistic about it before its release, the turtles in high-school is something i dreamed of when i was a child! AND THE SHOW JUST BLUE BALLED ME??? I GET JUST SOME MENTION ABT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN SCHOOL BUT ITS NEVER SHOWN AND THAT MAKES ME GRRRR

IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO EASY FFS, doing something none of the show before had ever done but nooooo u get two mini arcs

and lets talk about these arcs:

bishop arc: i really liked the general plot of this one ok, but since the first ep i could see one of the main problems with tottmnt, EACH EP IS ABT A SINGLE TURTLE retelling their version of what happened in the same moment, that could be cool, BUT THAT MEANS THE BROTHERS INTERACT WITH EACHOTHER IN ONLY 2 EPISODES CIRCA

AND I HATE IT SM!

also why does everyone kinda have the same personality (by this i mean cus they react basically the same in every situation, apart if there's a computer/something technological, then donnie would use it/the other 3 would say something abt like "donnie could use it")

and they are so chill abt their problems (leo's self worth issues, raph's anger issues) ? like everything is so lighthearted and they already know how to deal and therapy talk??

i wonder how they will get to grow as characters cus as of now, they are already way more mature than any other tmnt version???

goldfin arc:... so???? IM TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING POSITIVE TO SAY ABT IT REAL HARD, maybe it will come to me later so lets start with things i despise abt the show!

uno: I HATE THAT THEY PAIRED EACH OTHER WITH A "COUSIN", I WANT MY TURTLES INTERACTING WITH EO

deux: i hate that they have "cousins" 😭 why is every character related to them (tbf this was already from the movie so u can just ignore it) it makes the world sm smaller and takes out so many known villains... also i hate scum sm, also shes the turtles' cousin too so her relationship with splinter is kinda even weirder

(tbf it could be that i hate the cousins thing after i came back from my vacation surronded by my huge family, AND HAVING TO SPEND SO MANY DAYS WITH MY SO FUCKING MANY COUSINS)

три: the way that the stories are told, apart that it makes it look like nothing is canon? ive seen many fans confused about it, but i think that both stories actually happened. the only reason i dont like it is cus... it clashes with the choice of having a single turtle each ep so hard

like whats the point of starting the arc with a turtle narrating, but the next ep it will be focused on someone else?? and then ending it with the first one closing it like as if he had been the one talking all the time

quatro: uhhh by this time i found things i like so i want to talk about them too, but! i feel like this arc is so much worse than the bishop one and horrible for a closure.

the enemies are uhhhhh something, the stakes are lower than my will to live and we get poop jokes too <3

cinco: WHY DOES THE INTRO NOT HAVE LYRICS, EVERY TMNT INTRO IS A BANGER, THATS THE RULE!! U CANT BREAK IT OMG

six: WHERE IS MONDO GECKO, THE ONLY COUSIN I LIKED AND WANTED TO SEE MORE OF

sept: this leo isnt leoing and april's personality just being "girl with the phone and recording"

восемь: DONNIE AND MIKEY ALWAYS REFERENCING TO RANDOM AMERICAN PEOPLE OR OTHER POP CULTURE THINGS, I UNDERSTOOD 6% OF THEIR JOKES

by the second arc my brother started loudly sighing and glare at me every time donnie/mikey would make a "joke" we wouldn't understand, i started beating him to feel something

NOW THE STUFF I LIKED ABOUT THE SHOW

one: THE ANIMATION IS GREAT! im not the biggest fan of the artstyle but thats my personal bias, i like it being 2d! (i still like rise's animation and fluidity more, but THAT studio is impossible to beat, im still destroyed they dropped lmk <\3)

due: i liked the detective that hated birds, he brought a chaotic energy no one has in this show

três: THERE WASNT ANY APRILN4RDO THANK FUCKING GOD (i wrote this but then my brother made me notice the murales and now idk if i should take this out or myself)

четыре: i love hun and him being an animal activist is the cutest

and thats it ig?

tldr: i think its a mid series, it does nothing remarkably bad but it doesnt do anything remarkably good.

i finished and it left me nothing (it left me longing for more of rise actually)

though, its early to say it cus we have just 12 episodes! ofc i hope it will get better!!

(ALSO BEFORE SOMEONE SAYS ANYTHING ABT TARGET AUDIENCE, I WASNT EVEN IN THE RISE ONE AND I ENJOYED IT JUST FINE

also WHAT CHILD WOULD WATCH THIS OVER SOMETHING HYPERACTIVE AS RISE??? OR EDGY AS 2012/2003??? OR FUNKY AS 1987???)

also im autistic abt tmnt but in particular abt leonardo, i dont like this leo = my enjoyment of the show is very low

so until they get leo's character right, i will have spite in me