#vefve

[denzi-p]

Vefve: “no!!!! I don’t like that necrophilia fic I made years ago!!!!!! Stop bringing it up!!!!!!!”

Also Vefve, referencing it not even a month ago:

[n3rdyw0rdy]

I think vefve blocked me for my post of giving her genuine criticism on her behavior, says a lot about her. She shows signs no signs of improving herself and ignoring/blocking anyone who speaks bad on her behalf. I can’t say I’m surprised though.

(also apparently alexbstudios made an alt account and commented on that post, i didn’t find out it was them until vefve made a post revealing it was them, so i blocked them immediately, but now she probably assumes that I associate with them now, oh my glob)

[nixierain]

Well I have FINALLY had enough and now I am going to rant

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT.

Oh yeah, I'ma probably be talking about a controversial topic and I will be yelling a lot. I will mostly be talking about how I feel about the whole Vefve thing and other things. Read at your own "risk"

OK, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU AGE UP A GHOST!?

Yes I know Christopher is canonically 17, but he is DEAD, he is a ghost and NO THIS AINT NECROPHILLIA, HE IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER. ALSO HOW THE ACTUAL FUCK DO YOU VISIABLY AGE HIM UP?

SO WHAT? A FANFIC "GLORIFIES NECROPHILLIA" (I havent even read the fic so whatever) BUT WHAT ABOUT FAIRY TAILS, DONT HALF THE PEOPLE KISS SOMEONE WHOS DEAD OR BARELY ALIVE AND BOOM THEYRE OK, NO ONE CALLS THAT NECROPHILLIA.

Also what the fuck? None of you call out any people who like furries or sexualize the, and call them zoophiles right? You dint call out the sun simps and call the mechaphiles RIGHT?

SO WHY THE FUCK CALL OUT SOMEONE RANDOM WHO IS JUST EXPRESSING THEMSELVES AND DOING ALMOST NOTHING WRONG?

Sure, Vefve could possibly handle things in a more adult fashion but YALL NEED TO STOP HARASSING HER LIKE WHAT THE FUCK? YALL ARE BEING CHILDISH TOO.

Good GOD PEOPLE. I AM NOW REMINDED WHY I HATE SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.

And WHY is Denzi being called a zoophile for likeing mantis. LOTS OF YALL ARE PROBABLY SIMPING KVER FURRIES, WHO THE FUCK CARES. You had BETTER NOT come at me for saying this, but I like Flick from Animal Crossing (the chameleon who has an intrest in entomology and art), there is NOTHING wrong with that!

I know people are allowed to have their own opinion but WHAT THE FUCK. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO HARASS PEOPLE LIKE THIS! There are better MORE MATURE things you could be doing, alright? SO DO THEM

And there, that is most if not all my rant

Also, this is some of the reason I have been snaping at you annons because you are giving me misinformation and JUST WDCPIFNIOENVRIOFIOENVVNOIBERHOIBTEIOBBINORGIOBHTRHBIRTO

Also, I know people can handle things more maturely and yell amd scream for no reason, but still, and yes explaining sometimes doesnt work but still DONT HARASS THEM

AND PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES GEEZ JUST LET THEM BE WITH THEIR MISTAKES!

[wermie-real]

Another point on that one enigmatic freaky deaky one

we all know like "ooh vampire au kissing a decapitated head is fucking icky!!"

On the other points just go skim through erm @n3rdyw0rdy 's post on the whole thing

OKAY my point is er..

Maybe making a fan PV on SOTS isn't the best idea because I'm like 99 percent sure that shit is like ghost venting about how people dehumanize them constant WHY WOULD YOU MAKE A PV OUT OF A VENT SONG THATS SO INSENSITIVE??? omt I'm going to explode

[slurpees-number-one-wife]

okayI should of said this in the beginning if your a zoophile, transphobic, homophobic, a rachel fan (or rachel), a denzi fan (or denzi) vefve hater leave my page immediately

all I had to say today :]

[tjakev]

Stance regarding the Vefve situation

(TL;DR for those who suffer Attention Deficit like I do)

While yes what vefve has made is undeniably weird, I don’t think it’s a justification to those who are becoming almost unhealthy obsessed and will dedicate their entire blog to hating on Vevfe.

LONG STATEMENT:

I’ve been following this whole Vefve situation for a bit now, it’s insane to consider since I wouldn’t even be on tumblr without Vefve via their about page on youtube.

So when I started browsing and discovered this overwhelming hate for Vefve I was initially shocked and yet also intrigued, I learned more. By the end of it, I came to the conclusion that there were parts that were well deserving of Criticism, and others that I think were kind of overblown, mainly by a small yet vocal minority of especially butthurt Vefve Critics, to the point where it was creepy within itself.

I’ll start with the stuff I believe is worth critiquing, then the stuff I’m 50/50 on, then with the stuff I feel like was overblown, ending with how bad some have been about this whole shebang.

The Chris x Kennith ship:

This was the one where I felt like it was justified in terms of critiquing, Chris’s entire schtick is he’s a self entitled manipulative scumbag who has no issue mentally breaking down people one by one, and he’ll smile the whole way through. While Kennith was a Homosexual who was gullible, manipulated by Evelyn into basically almost causing an apocalyptic style mass murder and ended up taking his own life. So to ship One of the most Manipulative characters with one of the most Mentally destroyed is like trying to mix Water and Oil, it’s completely backwards in terms of logic and common sense. I know Vefve has this whole Fnaf fan styled “Alternate Universe” where the characters are slightly tweaked, but removing Chris’s manipulative behavior is like removing Frank Sinatra’s ability to sing, you completely remove the entire reason Chris is the way he is.

Not to mention the two were born almost a century apart, and Chris’s soul stayed in the Manor making it almost impossible for the two to really meet.

Vefve’s Immaturity and Echochamber:

Another thing that Chrisoncrack brought up as their main argument was how immature Vefve was and has been throughout this whole 2-3 month scandal. Their inability to take criticism and feedback, mostly bad feedback, is the whole thing that’s been stirring the pot that is this drama.

Instead of either Apologizing or standing her own ground(IN A MATURE MANNER). She instead throws a hissy fit and blocks anyone who dares to give her the slightest pushback, I’ve seen many and talked to many who’ve been blocked for some of the most simplistic call out posts or comments, hell they don’t even need to do that! They just need to simply reblog someone else’s posts and BOOM you’re blocked. Also I’m fully aware Vefve will probably block me too, not remembering I can use Alt accounts or Safari lol.

Vefve also constantly teases the people criticizing her by drawing art of the Chris and Kennith stuff(which I’ll go into depth about next).

Next is the topic I’m 50/50 about.

Vefve self shipping with Chris:

I’ve seen many people get mad at how Vefve self ships/simps for Christopher Pierre(which does explain why she washed any manipulative habits of his away but I digress).

Chris is 17 while Vefve is 23 meaning that it would be considered Pedophillic or illegal for Vefve to ship themselves with Chris. Now yes, I 100% agree that it’s odd to be an adult and ship yourself with someone who is underage. Where I become divided on this is the fact that 1. She has been shipping herself with Chris since she’s been apart of the community, which has been 5-6 years meaning that she was 16-17 when she started shipping herself with Chris. Aka a minor, so this isn’t an instance of an adult whose shipping themselves with a minor all the sudden while they’re an adult. This is an instance of a minor shipping themselves with another minor, but Vefve became an adult after the fact.

Once again I still think it’s weird, in general I think self shipping is weird in general. But I don’t think we should be throwing the word Pedophile with Vefve without substantial evidence, especially when entire peoples careers like Alex Kister and Pyrocynical have been almost thrown away because of false Pedophile allegations people threw around and everyone accepted.

Finally onto the only overblown topic:

Vefve’s fan comic and the Necrophilia Accusations.

Oh boy I might get some shit because of this, but honestly I didn’t think from at least what I’ve read that the comic isn’t that bad. Is it weird to have these Characters who represent various forms of Trauma and Abuse be Halloween monsters, yes. Is it weird Chris killed kennith and then basically made out with his decapitated head, of course.

But to say that there was this underlining tone or message of Necrophilia is a WILD thing to say. I don’t like the comic either and I sorta don’t wanna defend it . But The comic is about horror and as such the part of Chris kissing Kennith’s head was probably written to be an extreme form of horror. But to say that this is Vevfe’s underlying fetish is a very out of pocket thing to say and the fact she’s being harassed over this fact amazes me. Because this is exactly what happened to the creator of “The Coffin of Andy and Leyley”. Where a part of the game has the siblings “do the do”. Which was supposed to be a shock value moment and supposed to be taken as a bad ending. Turned into people accusing the creator of being into incest, to the point where the harassment was so bad they had to sell the rights and basically erase their own existence off the internet.

And I don’t think we should be accusing someone because they decided to add a form of horror to their horror based story, I know authors will often add stuff in their story’s that’s underlying of their actual motives and thought process. But it’s one thing if it gets really nsfw and sexual and constant in their works and it’s another thing if it’s a one and done thing in the media.

Now let’s get onto the echo chambers on BOTH sides of the spectrum.

First starting with Vefve fans, I’ve been seeing a lot of things fans of Vefve have been doing that is insane, from the metaphorical meat riding of her to apparently doxxing someone on tik tok. It’s honestly wild how close minded her defenders are, I get defending what you love but Jesus, there’s defending someone and then there’s ruining someone else’s life over petty tumblr drama most won’t care about or remember in 5 years.

This goes both ways, I won’t name drop who but there’s this user I’ve been noticing who has a massive hate boner for Vefve and anyone who slightly defends her is given the boot and is told to basically kick rocks and fuck off. Even if they have a decent point. Once again it’s okay to defend and criticize someone but if it comprises most of your modern blog page and it becomes this almost obsession, it just makes you look worse than the people you accuse. Go outside, get some Ice cream and go on a walk, trust me, it’s a better way to spend your time than to ramble about tumblr drama in a niche community for months. Trust me I’m already losing my mind after typing this for an hour and a half.

I won’t be bringing this topic up again and anything I need to add will simply be edited into this post cause I don’t like to constantly reignite drama. I only made this cause I wanted to get it out of the way before people started asking me to pick sides and shit. If you have any counter arguments or points you wanna bring up, absolutely feel free to do so! Just PLEASE keep it Civil and friendly.

That’s all, stay tuned for more drawings of Slurpee and Friends I got in the works, Stay cool, stay chill,

AAAAAAAAAND P E A C E

[methamphetaminelol]

Hey so groomve just sent me a paragraph and blockd me.. (thanks to my bffs name i will not be sharing. The ss is from her<3)

I dont wven have a attraction to school shooters.. im just intrested in the cases. I am attracted to no one since im aroace and even if i was itd be my bff max dince we call eachothers bfs and stuff..

and my profile changed becouse i lost a hyperfixation. I have a new one wow. And its a mirderer,i know edgy,but im not hurting anyone. And not shipping myself with minors as a grown adult woman!

(Im a minor thats 13 but whatever)

Oh and m header was changed becouse i kinda lost my columbine obbsesion and i dont wanna trigger people. I mean i can put it as gore again if i wanted to lol

[denzi-p]

Aaaaaa I wanna make selfship content but since I’m in the ghost and pals fandom and also have a shit ton of drama surrounding me I’m scared I’m just gonna come off as Vefve 2.0

[skellyweb]

someone is stealing my identity on rule.34

I'm just making a post about this to nip it in the bud before anybody sees this and tries to ask me about it. There's someone on rule.34 using my username and posting edited versions of my art.

(and just to keep things especially clear, I didn't find this out because I frequently look at the ghost and pals tag on rule.34. I was reverse image searching my art just because sometimes I like to see if anyone has reposted it lol)

Basically, like a week or so ago I drew a funny little drawing and sent it to Veeeffvee's inbox. I was just doing a bit of trolling, you know. It was a drawing of Christopher Pierre voring her and had "Vefve x Chris" written on it. I did not draw it with sexual intent. I am not into vore. I just thought it was very funny. I also did not post it anywhere; it was only shared in Vefve's asks. Somehow someone saw this image and removed all of the parts that had Veeeffvee attached to it, and then posted it to the site under my username.

This person also made several comments under my name.

The interesting thing about these comments you may notice is that they follow a certain unique writing style that someone in this fandom uses. Another interesting note to add is that Vefve never answered this ask publicly, meaning only she and anyone who she possibly shared it to could have seen it.

Something else that is a little interesting is that Veeeffvee has been namedropping me on her blog. Specifically under the idea that I'm the only person criticizing her for having a creepy relationship with her (majority) underage fans.

(also, just for the record I did not send this ask. I wouldn't have had a reason to be on anon since vefve already knows how I feel about her.)

What I'm saying, is that to me, it looks like vefve is annoyed by my criticism of her and is impersonating my identity to try and create some sort of blackmail or leverage against me so that my criticism looks less valid. Which is interesting because I know for a fact that I'm not the only one who's criticized her for her creepy relationship with her fans. What is also interesting, is that I am 17. Christopher Pierre may not be a real person, but I am. And if this really is Vefve or one of her friends doing this, then it means that she's impersonating a minor in order to post on porn sites and make sexually explicit comments as well as post fetish material. Which definitely wouldn't help her case against the accusations of being a creep. If this isn't you, Vee, I really think you should find some good evidence that this wasn't you or someone in your posse. You are literally the only person who would have seen that image.

[chrisoncrack]

hey fern! maybe dont doxx and pretend to be someone just because they hate on your idol who is an emotional groomer!

[orangeleftyart]

A monster, monster, monster,

-Christopher Pierre

That’s it. I’m not getting any clues, am I? Well I’m just gonna have to go dissect every single one of my friend’s blogs and everything they’ve ever said to me to figure out who the hell this individual truly is.

(hypothetically if this ended up being vefve i would actually explode /nsrs) (this is just a joke i dont want to revive the actual vefve drama okay?)

[veeffveeehater1]

confirmed

PROOF I AM NOT ALEX

[slurpees-number-one-wife]

ship artttttt of me and my wifey <3

[denzi-p]

Did vefve delete her tumblr account or something I genuinely cant find her account anymore

Or maybe I was just blocked so

Update: yeah I got blocked