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toss-a-coin-to-your-stan-account · 5 months ago

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tiktok "toxic yaoi enjoyers" when the ship is actually toxic and problematic and involves continuous mistreatment and manipulation and isn't just a healthy relationship where they have mean banter sometimes

not my tiktok feed going from "BILLFORD!!! TOXIC OLD MAN YAOI😍😍😍😍😍" to "yeah i like billford but ONLY pre-portal billford and i'm not like THOSE fans who like [insert toxic/"""problematic""" thing bill did to ford] bc that's WRONG and and if you like it you're BAD" girl what do you think the "toxic" in toxic old man yaoi MEANT

#y'all will say you love 'toxic yaoi' but will then not only sanitize and woobify all toxicity out of it #but harass and bully creators who ACTUALLY make content where it's ACTUALLY a toxic relationship with ACTUAL continuous toxic behavior #(i.e. the creator of the 'property au' on tiktok that apparently got so bullied and harassed that they took it down and APOLOGIZED.)#(you would've done numbers on whump tumblr)#and i truly believe its because since the biggest demographic of tiktok fandoms is teenagers #that they're still terrified of anything 'problematic' (both seeing it and BEING it) bc its seen as a fucking social death sentence #you don't talk to people who are problematic. you stay away from and actively demean work that's problematic.#you don't deserve a support system or livelihood or an online presence or any form of fucking decency when you're problematic #'problematic' is seen by a huge majority of young fans in fandom spaces one of the worst things you can ever be fucking be in a fandom #because many. MANY younger fans in fandom spaces haven't reached the point in fandom where they just block & ignore things they find Wrong #and instead whoever is 'problematic' or makes 'problematic' work is reprehensible and needs to be harassed into never posting it again #and you'll never be able to have an actual popular 'toxic ship' where it's ACTUALLY TOXIC thrive in a fandom space #until fans in that space make peace (or at least neutrality) with the notion of being 'problematic'#and the term doesn't get innocent creators ran out of the fucking space.#tldr; if you actually want a 'toxic yaoi' ship you're going to have to be okay with things being 'problematic'.#thank you for coming to my TED talk

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