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Louis is a beautiful, intelligent, successful young lady that unfortunately loves and is deeply attracted to bums, losers, and scheming scammers who are one phone call away from the state penitentiary
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#amc iwtv#if you can guess which between armand lestat and daniel is the bum loser and scammer ill give you a kiss and some ceviche#amd once that fuckass man of hers goes to the pen she will unfortunately hold his ass down and put money on his commissary for cup noodle#lestat de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac#ldpdl#armand iwtv#daniel molloy#loustat#loumand#danlou#and if you saw this crossposted to redacted no u didnt
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Is My Very Nature That of A Devil - Louis de Pointe du Lac
#the 🥺 eyes after he burned the tapes#glorious aa#unfortunately whenever i see this part of the ep all i think of is the i let my man cheat video its jus stuckk in my brain😭#amc iwtv#iwtv#louis de pointe du lac#vampterview#amc interview with the vampire#interview with the vampire#ldpdl#ldpdl.txt#is my very nature that of a devil
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I'd get them if they were on sale.
#interview with the vampire#sam reid#iwtv fanart#loustat#jacob anderson#ldpdl#amc iwtv#vampire jokes#unfortunately for you all the jokes also come in pairs#iwtv funny
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#unfortunately based on previous incidents#i'm permanently suspicious of the way ppl talk about#ldpdl's blackness#it's like this weird campaign to make him the clarence thomas of vampires#using ahistorical evidence#and ignoring shit that was deliberately placed in the show#do your research!#read a book!#go hang out with black people#do anything!#stop with these weird sly takes#like 'pet/token black' and shit#people really don't know what to do with a well written black character with flaws#and whose dialogue isn't ripping the tweets of an activist#if someone isn't facing the screen and telling the audience what kind of communist they are#they're basically uncle ruckus#it drives me nuts
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i do kind of have mixed feelings about the armand reveal i will not lie. but at the same time, I think we forget that we still do not have all the information (lestat’s pov, and armand’s unfiltered pov of the trial, maybe even sam’s pov loool). also i don’t think this was particularly ooc nor do i think that it flattens armand’s character.
one,i think him doing this is completely in line with what we have seen from his character thus far. at this point (ep4/6 in paris) imo it is clear that he is feeling unloved/rejected on some level by louis [dreamstat haunting their relationship was the proverbial shoe waiting to drop; there was always a lingering feeling of inadequacy armand was feeling in his relationship with louis and considering his history (his trauma) we know how deeply this would affect him]. madeleine semi-confirms that there’s a sort of wall in the vulnerability of the loumand relationship when she asks louis why he doesn’t tell armand he loves him. armand is a character that desperately wants to be wanted, is desperately insecure, and on top of that, like assad said in an interview, very forward thinking. i think he really did not think his relationship with louis would survive — not with the burden of lestat, the burden of claudia/madeleine, and honestly i think it was coupled with a lot of self-hatred. the coven was a far more reliable decision for him. louis, throughout their relationship, was not a very consistent partner if we’re being honest (and i say this as a ldpdl apologist every tongue that rises against louis shall fall unless in defense of claudia). he refused to join the coven, he was constantly haunted by lestat in vital moments of loumand relationship development, he and armand were on verryyy different wavelengths about the labeling of their relationship, madeleine’s turning in itself i think also put a major strain in their relationship, etc. i don’t say this to excuse armand, but to contextualize his feeling of isolation within the relationship.
and thinking about his history, his trauma, i really do think that he would latch onto whatever seems to be the most consistent. he yearns for that commitment, and to feel wanted; and if he was not feeling that with louis, he would make the decision to stay with the coven. years upon years of abuse, and having that abuse be tied with a twisted sense of worship with marius, I believe has stunted armand significantly. armand is cunning, manipulative, whatever, but he really does not like being a leader. he leans into subservient positions constantly, and i think this is a pattern of learned helplessness that would explain why he perhaps may have felt as though he “could not prevent it” wrt the trial. i think him honestly believing he could not prevent it and also directing the whole thing are not really mutually exclusive here.
i don’t think this diminishes his love for louis at all either, he loved louis before during and after the trial, and the trial’s preparation. this was done in response to feeling unloved by him, not in response to not loving him. and i think, at least within the show’s presented narrative thus far, witnessing the actual trial along with lestat’s action versus his own inaction at its conclusion perhaps really put his guilt and regret into perspective which led to him saving louis from the wet room. and after finding a way to be with louis again (claiming to have saved him), and having louis speak to his commitment to him (even if it was done as a way to torture lestat), made armand solely focused on preserving his relationship with louis in any way possible - and unfortunately that meant also preserving this big lie. armand isn’t some supervillain that secretly wants louis dead - he did genuinely spend his life trying to make up for it. he is desperately desperately lonely and he has lived centuries feeling inadequate and unloved. this deep deep insecurity and attachment to preserve feeling loved/wanted drives his actions in paris, in san francisco, and in dubai.
so no! i don’t think it reverses any development of his character at all! honestly, apart from delainey’s claudia, armand was my shining star of season 2. assad played him brilliantly, and i don’t think this finale diminished the complexity assad (and the writers) gave to this character at all.
(i also think having this revealed and what this will do to armand’s psyche (as a character who i think is really really afraid to look inward) is such fun setup for season 3)
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#armand#armand de crippling insecurity#iwtv finale#iwtv spoilers#loumand#honestly reacted so viscerally to the reveal and then sat with it for a second and was like wait this is kind of cool actually#assad zaman#i stand with my cancelled wife#iwtv 2x08#is this too long of a post maybe this is too long of a post#louis de pointe du lac#ldpdl
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oh great i didnt realise i was gonna run into fans like this IMMEDIATELY after starting the show so yeah louis was wrong in many ways in his relationship to lestat but he WAS NOT "the real abuser" you're not gonna DARVO ldpdl, mutual abuse does not exist and even tho yes its fiction so abuse dynamics dont have to be exactly true to life im still not gonna watch idiots turn the black man in an abusive relationship into the "raging narcissist" they wanna pigeonhole him into being.
firstly, take DSM diagnoses out of your mouth, secondly, yea louis contorts the truth (to himself too, remember? this show loves to rely on unreliability and the limitations of memory) but that doesn't make him lestat's tormentor ffs please THINK for a second before you hit post, and thirdly why are you so so so SO willing to make it seem like louis is the evil manipulator and lestat the poor, innocent, long-suffering (white) victim who cannot be to blame for his own actions because his heart was broken or some other banal shit?
louis was lured into a life of vampirism by lestat, with no real clear alternative, on the brink of his suicide- his lowest moment (while alive). he was in love with lestat but he says he did not "consider himself a homosexual at the time", while lestat had much more opportunities in his lifetime to accept his sexuality louis was just discovering his. we see this intertwined with his crisis of identity as a vampire, afraid to even say the word half the time, ashamed of it. so to say he had inhibitions using the word 'love' towards another man, is putting it lightly. he didn't lead lestat on, like some people might like to think, he loved him to the point of self-destruction, he forgave him after the physical and mental abuse he faced, and yet some people still want to misread the text and call him the narcissist in this scenario. Louis rightfully and at his own personal cost, had reservations saying "I love you" but not because he was trying to manipulate Lestat into a one-sided relationship, bc it put his life in danger to do so.
Lestat is his maker, his first love, Louis is hunted and consumed by him, under his influence but kept in the dark by him; he'll never shake the grasp that man has on his soul. Claudia and Daniel are correct in identifying the racial undertones of their relationship as hostile to him and clearly problematic, and Louis is reluctant to admit to this but he clearly knows if anyone else were in his shoes how wrong and fucked up it would be. unfortunately he is self-sacrificing and his self-respect has been literally beaten out of him so he loves lestat despite it all. i just can't see how you would mistake daniel's criticism "never tell a narcissist you love them" that he said about lestat during an interview (and maybe a little self-flagelation) to somehow be about the abuse recipient? i just can't fathom it actually
#i hate fandom so fucking much sometimes#also i hate loustat so much idgaf if theyre endgame make them Not endgame#abuse#iwtv#interview with the vampire#sinkhole#iwtv commentary
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top 5 ldpdl (amc) moments? and/or top 5 music albums?
Going with the louis moments only bc I'm gonna answer the album question kinda in another ask
I feel like there's just so much incredible in ep 1 especially the monologues in the last bit of it that the heartbeat pounding like a drum monologue is kinda under mentioned.... this is probably one of my top 10 scenes in the whole show. I knew my ass was in trouble bc you can see the pain and the fear and the love all in one not just in Rue Royale but it coming back to him as he's recalling it.
Catboy.
"IT WAS BOTH RANDOM AND UNFORTUNATE THE MAN PICKED THAT NIGHT TO DABBLE IN FUCKERY"
the draining the tenor scene when Louis is describing the memories he sees of the tenor and you can just feel even now as he's recalling it his aching connection to humanity... also a very nice touch in the scene is his pupils shrinking back to normal the more he sees Lestat tormenting the poor guy... incredible character moment.
[insert essay here]
and the automobile... was his pussy.
gonna stop here for now I literally cannot choose just 5 scenes I couldn't even choose 5 per ep
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P. S. 2x08/Swan Lake parallel is so great and I found it so romantic and unfortunately the reason no one else noticed it despite all these show "understanders" (IJBOL) is because many of them do not gaf about Louis outside of being a trophy/prize/accessory for their nb man of choice. So Louis' interiority and feelings and meta are always always always getting sidelined and then people act shocked when they're called anti-black for it like damn maybe don't act like thee protagonist is a fucking guest star in his own life. Some people in this fandom are more invested in LBF than LDPDL like I need a gun. - 🦁
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#asks#interview with the vampire#amc interview with the vampire#interview with the vampire amc#iwtv amc#amc iwtv#iwtv 2022#louis de pointe du lac#loustat#fandom racism#antiblackness#swan lake#and that's the end of it. there's nothing else
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unfortunately i understand ldpdl
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The show targeting white liberals like the type who watch amc shows like mad men, breaking bad etc especially Western Europeans who have weird opinions on prostitution/sex work like a lot of them prob think the government cracking down on prostitution was a bad thing (especially as it was instigated by Wilson who was hardly anyone’s idea of a good prez). it’s no surprise it goes over their heads esp since there isn’t a character who actively calls out his profession not even daniel (but then he is a white liberal just like a lot of the shows audience)
the president/s who drove prohibition policies & crackdowns on prostitution was motivated by the need to ‘whip their citizens into shape’ and was far more likely to blame & arrest the women then they would be to arrest & hold the pimps accountable. in most government initiated ‘crackdowns’ on prostitution, it is unfortunately, the victims who are targeted by the government & shamed by their friends/family for being ‘loose women’ rather than the tricks, pimps and buyers.. im not the smartest person nor do i have the solution in mind but i want ppl to understand my criticisms are centered around ppl on multiple echelons sharing the fundamental view that black women, especially poorer black women, are disposable. this view bleeds into their interpretation of even fictional characters, their understanding of the scale of ‘good’ v. ‘evil’. ur biases impede ur interpretations of whats on screen. its difficult for ppl to accept that louis is morally objectionable off the jump bc they do not think a black man getting rich off sexually marketing poorer [primarily] black women to racist city leaders is evil enough in their eyes. these women are not ‘desirable’ ‘worthy’ victims – theyre NPCs to the avg fan. the showrunners was brilliant to make ldpdl a pimp here, bc while the avg person who watch amc stuff/lib modern vamp fan can somewhat [doing a lot of heavy lifting here] understand the evils of being a white chattel slaveowner of the antebellum period, they r far more reticient when commenting on [what they view as] intracommunal power dynamics btwn the black man & black woman. i can think of dan giving lou some shit a few times: when louis tries to make a euphemism out of his old hustle [‘diversified portfolio of businesses’] daniel was like ‘ur a pimp’ & louis once again, dwelling in the semantics of it all, says the product was desire & dan just lets him go on. and in the s1 finale daniel was like ur 145 years old and still the pimp, paying a hoe to listen to u. cant say thats principled ‘critique’ or dan being motivated out of altruistic concern for the condition of black women in the gilded age [LOL] so much as it is dan being a smartass + reacting to lou, but if even the smug old white fictional character can recognize theres something off about pimping, so should the 3d human beings.. u shouldnt need a fictional chara to tell u right or wrong u should already understand it but alas
#yn.#yn answers#iwtv#louis de pointe du lac#daniel molloy#Re: 5001 antoinette martyr asks but 0 on miss lily or bricktop#Its p anachronistic tho. cuz rl the madams of storyville was creole women
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Hello everyone.
Sorry for the delay in answering questions and engaging with you all. I’m still getting used to the internet and sometimes the days pass me by, making me forget that I have a blog to come back to. I’ve realized that I may not be the best at keeping up with online recreation so I ask everyone to be patient with me. I may not post everyday but I will come back every now and again to respond and update everyone about my whereabouts. Unfortunately, I’m not like Lestat who seems to be glued to his phone screen 24/7.
Thank you all for your patience and understanding.
~LDPDL
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Ldpdl unfortunately there are sexual urges and desires I want you to fuck me in papa's orchard
JACOB ANDERSON as Louis de Pointe du Lac
Interview with the Vampire, AMC - Series 2, Episode 2
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Louis have you felt insecure about Nicki and lestat’s past relationship? An urge to compare yourself to him?
Admittedly in the past when Lestat and I first started our life together, there were times were I was insecure about Nicki. I still acknowledged the importance Nicki had in Lestat’s life and was genuinely happy whenever Lestat reminisced about him to me. I can tell that they were truly in love with each other. I was grateful that Lestat felt such comfort with me when it came to talking about him. Unfortunately, there were times when I thought about if I was as good of a companion as Nicki was. Even whether or not I was as pretty as Nicki. But those thoughts were all on me. I’d never blame such insecurities on Lestat or Nicki. Even in his worst days, Lestat made it very clear that he loved me as I were and he continues to do so everyday.
~LDPDL
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I want to ask you a question but I keep thinking about how pretty you are and my brain freezes. Is this what it feels like for lestat?
Let’s ask Mr. Lioncourt himself shall we?
@the-brat-prince-1760 Do I make you forget yourself with my beauty? Just as this unfortunate stranger?
Nevertheless, I believe in you anonymous. Just take your time and I’ll be here when the question comes back to you.
~LDPDL
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both are awful. it all comes back to Claudia. he watched her die, didn’t choose her to save and LDPDL witnesses LDL’s inner turmoil because of Claudia and views it as enough to forgive him over compared to monsieur “i could not prevent it”
who did not know nor care for Claudia the way Louis would need him to, like a parent whom Louis and Lestat recognize themselves as to her. who share just as much responsibility for her death and creation. also, he just started processing that revelation of Armand compared to what he knows for sure is Lestat. (in Louis’ shoes, I said I’d successfully put myself to the fire as fuck them both on first watch, Louis is better than me.) the man he couldn’t get out of his mind and buried his love for for so long until their reunion and whom he can finally discuss their history with. he probably felt relieved to know that Lestat still deeply loved him too in spite of everything and actually hadn’t wanted him dead after—knowing louis—thinking he’d deserve to, finally getting the weight of guilt alleviated over how he felt all that time for the “undeserving Lestat”. Lestat unfortunately has always been a greater comfort and relief than Armand, it is what it is
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here’s a petty lestat or whoever as tiffany and armand as hottie meme clip for you that doesn’t fit perfectly but i thought was funny
What's the difference between Lestat and Armand? Genuine question. Lestat left Claudia to die in order to save Louis, so what makes him worthy of forgiveness? Doesn't that make him just as responsible for Claudia's death?
show pretty heavily hints lestat doesn’t have control over the events of trial + i don’t think he would opt to take revenge on claudia through the coven anyways .when louis thought armand was a hapless bystander who chose to save louis over claudia he stayed with and implicitly forgave armand & never wanted to speak to lestat ever again. Also
#i’m coming out officially as a loumand hater#iwtv#Armand#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#claudia#analysis#Loustat
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I wish I could log off but unfortunately I don't play about being a ldpdl akgae
Twitter is bad for me why do I wake up and immediately start arguing....
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