#tw: lily orchard

[oblivionbladetd]

Any thoughts on this video?

I wish I knew a way to share this with the Dire Gentlemen group.

[not-miles]

Lorch drives most sensible folks to alcohol.

Just remember to drink responsibly.

By unfortunately popular demand today I will be tackling Lily Orchard's terrible TTS Utena "parody" at 2pm EST.

Here's a better look at the thumbnail!

It's gonna be another Tequila Rose drinking stream just like the Somerton and Lily bad Utena takes react double feature!

[sickness-stricken]

Alright folks, place your bets, is the book in this screen grab in the newest Lily Orchard video about incest?

DING DING DING DING DING

I’m pretty sure even people who ADMIT to having incest kinks don’t have this much of an internal catalogue of pieces of media that have incest in them good fucking LORD

[thetimelordbatgirl]

If this video thumbmail isn't the perfect summay of Lily Orchard: whenever she's being called out and exposed for being a shitty person and a predeator whose into incest and has sexually abused their sibling, she still tries to find a way to make herself into the victim of it all, portraying herself here as some poor innocent victim whose been hurt by all these people, when we know in reality its the opposite.

[not-miles]

I’m glad to hear you’re choosing not to give her attention. Gives her less ammunition to attack with.

If you don’t mind me asking — what do you intend to do in the meantime now that you’ve giving you-know-who the cold shoulder?

if lily comes after you/malicious covers "your" topics will you respond?or will this be a Turning the other cheek deal?

I am no longer giving Lily's videos any of my attention. Unless she does something serious like spread libel about me or try to doxx me I don't see any reason to interact with her further on Youtube, and I'm trying to dial it back here as well. I think I'd be more likely to file a cease and desist against her if that happened than publically respond. (I've unfollowed the vast majority of Lily critical blogs and don't check the tag like I used to.) I'm happy to respond to asks and comment on situations my friends are in on here, but it won't come up on YouTube unless me, or one of my friends (Sai, or Anthony, namely) have their livelihoods, privacy, or reputations seriously threatened.

[lilyvalerieorchard]

Oh, you mean the mod where you can marry your sibling? The mod that you've been promoting non-stop ever since Courtney spoke up? Wait! It gets even better! On a Twitch stream, Lily revealed a little item she made for her OC's fictional sister...

[atomicpizza64]

so one thing someone pointed out on reddit is that lily is a massive fan of world of Warcraft, which bleeds into her Pokémon video. To quote someone on reddit:

“World of Warcraft is...

-A game where dialogue is minimal and easily skippable.

-You don't have to grind against enemies in the world to level up, you can just do quests.

-Has a point A to point B style of questing.

-Has a huge focus on exploration of the vast and grand world.

-Once you get to a certain level you can basically curb stomp your way through all of the early parts with no effort.

-Are able to just skip all the cutscenes to fight the boss”

are you fucking kidding me. No knowing that she has the media literacy as a smashed egg on toast this just compounds it. They are different games you fucking dumbass

[nivatar]

So, I found out why @ cryptid-catnip didn't answer me if they okay with the incest mod or not. I looked at they subscriptions and the first one on the list was a profile with a LeyLey on the profile pic.

I decided to check out this profile and guess what they posting about?

[not-miles]

Are you familiar with the concept of “Doublethink”, as coined by George Orwell?

Because I’m fairly certain that’s what Lily’s damaged mind operates on - and the worst part is that she (subconsciously) chooses to think that way without being indoctrinated by some domineering authority figure, unless of course it’s a very toxic coping mechanism she developed in her abusive childhood, which would also explain a lot.

I still believe that Lily Orchard is completely delusional about every aspect of her life and herself, as well as being largely divorced from reality as a result. And everyday her delusions grow stronger and more entrenched in her damaged mind.

She doesn’t belong in prison - she belongs in a psychiatric hospital.

You're free to believe that but I respectfully disagree. I used to believe that. I've seen far too many examples of her being knowingly, intentionally calculating in her lies and manipulation over the years. She knows what she's doing. Otherwise she wouldn't feel the need to lie and try to hide or obscure it.

She doesn't care about the harm she does to people. All she cares about is herself. In a lot of ways, she enjoys causing people distress.

[thedepressedjuggalette]

You never looked at the evidence if you really believe all they have is cropped screenshots. Your rhetoric about unrelated events in the past has nothing to do with your disgusting attitude towards people genuinely hurt and abused by that monster. It's clear all you've done is do exactly what Lily says to do and refuse to look at what her victims post. They are her VICTIMS. THE SAME VICTIMS YOU CALLED PREDATORS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO CLICK A FEW LINKS AND READ THROUGH POSTS THAT SPOONFEED YOU EVERYTHING SHE DOES.

Really love how you ignored the fact that I said and I quote "I've watched plenty of videos going into the abuse allegations" and I've even name dropped Ethel (aka Essence of Thought) as an example.

I really loved that. It's adorable. Learn to fucking read.

Also I am a victim of Pedophilia and fyi my abuser actually is a free man because the courts said there was a "lack of evidence". Thanks for reminding of that, asshole.

But let me give you a simple thought experiment that I KNOW you're not going to answer or are going to find a way to weasel your way out of answering:

Lily Orchard stated that her parents were extremely abusive, her sister even stated this in her own blogs and in her interview with Essence of Thought. Her sister's Tumblr Bio even has her bragging about how she was their parent's favorite -- not Lily.

So let me ask you, if Lily's sister was the golden child and Lily was the scapegoat... WHY DIDNT HER SISTER OPEN HER FUCKING MOUTH?

Lily even stated that IF she was such an abusive disgusting asshole her parents would've MURDERED HER. Point blank. PERIOD.

IF Lily's sister was such a favorite, such a golden child, their parents would've killed Lily a long ass time ago.

Now let's look at recent events.

It's been confirmed by Lily and KP herself that KP tried to get Lily and her sister into a call together....

IF Lily was SUCH AN ABUSIVE ASSHOLE...WHO THE FUCK THINKS ITS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT AN ABUSER AND THEIR VICTIM IN THE SAME CALL LET ALONE THE SAME ROOM WITH EACH OTHER NO MATTER WHO THE FUCK THE THIRD PARTY IS????

That shit is NEVER a good idea. But what makes this shit even more sus to me is the fact that KP got UPSET when LILY FUCKING ORCHARD was the one to say "No!" LEAVE THE CALL when this idea was brought up. KP stated this.

Do you want to know what this says to me. This says that Lily wasn't the abuser in this situation.

Lily was having a trauma response.

But Lily's sister was the one open to the idea of getting into a call with her supposed abuser... WHAT THE FUCK???

As a victim of pedophilia I can honestly say to you that if someone tried to get me in a call with my bio father - my abuser - I'd run so fucking far I'd change my name and move to the other side of the fucking planet if I had to.

My own mother tried to get me to interact with my cousins, aunts, and uncles from my bio-fathers side of the family and the answer has always been "No!" every single fucking time.

Why?

Because I don't want to be anywhere near the IDEA of my abuser let alone anywhere near him.

It makes me sick. So tell me why the fuck is it that Lily's supposed victim, Lily's sister adopts Lily's name, actively reached out to one of her friends and even reached out to her on Deviant Art to INTERACT with Lily?

Everything that the sister does doesn't scream "this a victim of an abuser."

It screams "THIS IS A POWER PLAY FROM AN ABUSER!"

So let's look at what this entire situation says to me.

Lily Orchard didn't want to be forced by KP to join a call with one of her supposed "victims" and is her sister who has been BRAGGING about being their parents golden child and could've gotten her murdered at any time said sister felt like it. Lily said "No!" and left the call.

Predators LOVE to have power over their victims. They LOVE having info on their victims and former victims. It's like crack to them. It always has been. So IF Lily was a predator... Why is it that she's been avoiding her sister? Her supposed former victim...

My abuser used the fact that I was just a naive 7 year old against me all the time. That my mom would never believe me. And he was damn near right until he broke up with my mom in another one of their heated arguments and after a month of him being gone I spilt my guts and my mom kept asking me "Are you sure?" until she finally faced reality and realized that he was in fact a predator.

Can't wait to see how you'll ignore all of this shit and all of these questions in the next ask which I'm 99% sure is going to be you twisting yourself into knots to not answer them and bitch about whatever perceived slite you find in this.

Also before I forget I'm mature enough to see that Lily was obviously annoyed and saw plenty of people whining about her about anime and just took it out in that ask and thus I didn't take it personally. I don't have to take every insult someone gives me personally.

I didn't call her supposed victims predators. You just did though LOL. Way to out yourself there bud.

What I've been doing is pointing out that the shit being thrown at Lily is the EXACT same things that have been thrown and accused at LGBTQIA+ people for years, especially in the current Political Climate. Marjorie Taylor Green and JK Rowling have been throwing pedophilia and grooming allegations at the Trans Community for YEARS.

And what makes this shit all the more suspicious to me is that A LOT of Lily's haters dead name her and misgender her so often it's expected of them and when Lily's sister first came on scene, and this was pointed out by Essence of Thought herself, she misgendered and deadnamed Lily until she realized that Ethel was going to continue to correct her so she had to use Lily's name and gender.

It's no secret that the majority of Lily's haters are transphobes so it's not hard to expect that they'd use the very talking points transphobes have been throwing at the trans community for YEARS.

[imoenhatesthis]

Lily Orchard and Imoen: Lily is a Liar

If you remember, we discovered the work of T.C. Dale, one of the main writers of the current Imoen Romance mod and erotica author. This author has sexualized the topic of incest even outside the mod in question.

Now, when approached about T.C. Dale on Tumblr, Lily had this to say:

(Source)

Never read any of T.C. Dale’s work? Well, she mentioned T.C. Dale in her Imoen video just as mod credit. And she's only really talked about the other listed author on her blog favorably. So maybe it's true? Surely, this is the only video where T.C. Dale is mentioned...

Well, you can see and hear for yourself, Lily has read T.C. Dale’s fanfiction about Imoen (A Messy Origin of RPG Romance, 1:57).

We get a name drop AND a picture, as well as favorable language describing the book (Implying "at least the Ward and Imoen are safe from Larian Studios at T.C. Dale's house!")

On the Imoen Romance mod site, it's listed as such:

(Source)

"Crumbling Down" is a novelization of...Gorion's Ward (Cassandra) and Imoen's BG2 story using the Imoen Romance mod. Sounds familiar. Only, one of these fanfics has no qualms with being honest about the taboo subject matter:

(Source; Crumbling Down, Chapter 11. There's plenty more examples, it isn't one scene. Once again, leave this author alone).

So that's Lie #1. Lily has engaged with T.C. Dale's work outside the mod. And has talked about it quite favorably.

And that isn't even the ONLY lie. In the same video, she has footage of playing the mod with Aryana and Imoen. And guess which path they're on!

(File: RomanceContent, v4.1.2. Pink is Imoen, Yellow is Charname/Aryana. Dialogue is only initiated after starting romance.)

(File: GorionWraith, v.4.1.2). This is the same scene where figures taking the shape of your foster dads chastise you for the relationship. This dialogue is the direct aftermath. Again, dialogue you'd only find on the Romance path.

So Lie #2. Aryana and Imoen aren't played exclusively on the Friendship Path.

[werewolf-cuddles]

Sorry, I'm confused why Lily orchard writing weird fucked up mlp fanfiction makes them an abuser??? Am I missing something?????

The fanfiction isn't what makes her an abuser.

She's an abuser because she has literally fucking abused people.

Lizzy's testimony: Here

Brittany's testimony (and screenshot evidence): Here

Courtney's testimony (tw; incest, CSA): Here

[not-miles]

Thank you Jess. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Although I sincerely doubt that race favoritism is something that happens in The Owl House fandom.

Would you believe me if I told that Lily Orchard hates Hunter for being a cis-hetero Caucasian male?

Probably an uncomfortable request, but could you please explain why Hunter is not popular because of supposed “white favoritism” or other such nonsense?

Well, ok, i'm not going to assume there aren't fans who might indeed act this way about the characters of the show, because I'm sure there are.

The show isn't perfect in itself, i feel the criticism aimed at some of the poc cast is fairly justified.

I do, however, think it's a bit unfair to claim that hunter's race was the only reason he's popular though. I mean, that kinda assumes hunter has nothing about his character that would appeal to others and i disagree.

I mean, take it from my perspective, as someone who is fascinated and invested in hunter, philip, and caleb as characters, all white characters.

What got me invested in the show was their interpersonal drama, all the tragedy and heartbreak and emotional chords personally hit with me. I tend to love stories like hunter's in shows, he's not the first character I've enjoyed with similar arcs and growth, and philip's fascinating character evolved from tragedy and what happens when the worst kinda people are left to hate without anyone to help them grow.

all of this appeals to me, and it most likely would have still appealed to me had they not been white. (Though, they are the only characters in the show that had to be white given the historical aspect)

I'm sure it's similar for a lot of others, hunter has a lot of the most compelling lore, and his story resonates with people (Let's be fair here, people tend to latch onto abused angsty characters). Like, c'mon now, hunter, belos and caleb had SO much lore about them in the fandom that most of the rest of the cast don't have, it's understandable why they got so much attention when they were so tied into the backstory and lore of a show. Of course people are screaming about hunter being a clone, it's a massive reveal and extremely dark! people eat that stuff up!

I think we just gotta remember people will have different things that appeal to them in characters, a character that might appeal to you, might not be for someone else. Even if hunter's story wasn't to your taste, it was for others, and i think we should understand that before assuming he has no other appeal to an audience then his skin.

I mean, amity is a fan favorite as well, and given she's also been accused of the same favoritism, it would be fair to assume she's also a favorite character of mine right? i mean, if logically, the only reason i feel this way about the tragic trio is their skin, then i should like amity more then characters like luz for example.

Except no, i've never been really big on amity, i think the mean girl turned good trope has just never been a trope that appeals to me that much. It certainly is a popular one, i think because people love redemption stories and once again, latch onto abused angsty characters, but she wouldn't personally rank my top 5 favorites in the show.

Same could go for eda, or lillth, who are white coded, but also not personally my favorites even if i understand their popularity.

i resonate with luz the most of the cast, and have probably the most in common with her, and i think she would rank above those three even if she's not my favorite character overall in the show.

I think we gotta look at these things with some nuance sometimes, just like how people who love philip as a character are not evil monsters and can have many reasons to enjoy his character, same goes for hunter that has nothing to do with his race.

you're not a bad person if your favorite character in a show just happens to be a white one, sometimes that just means they're a well written character who works for you and that's just it.

i think that favoritism should indeed be called out, especially when it's warranted, and of course it could play into why the show is the way it is or why the fandom is the way it is so i can't dismiss it entirely.

But we also shouldn't state it as a fact either, not without more compelling evidence at least.

And if you ask me at least, i think it does a disservice to hunter to think he of all characters has nothing else going for him.

[brunossan]

About Syir, from Pokemadhouse

TW: Mentions of R4pe and Abu53

If you follow me for a while, must have seen my Pokemadhouse rage about Syir The Gardevoir.

But unfortunally i never explained WHY i hate her so much and why my blood boils when i talk about her.

So, here is the big explanation, in topics.

1-So, who is Syir and what did she do?

Syir is a character from Poke Madhouse, a now deleted pokemon comic made by Lily and Mikaila Orchard that talks about a pokemon world and the lives of their ocs and their pokemon in a house.

In this world Gardevoirs are the most dangerous and powerful species of pokemon, and Syir is a Female Gardevoir whose trainer is nothless than Diantha, The Kalos Champion.

And not only that, she and Diantha are implied on being in a relationship, wich in Poke Madhouse world is seen as the worst crime a person can do, even if its consensual. Gardevoirs are the biggest victims in this, as Lily even said People call them "The Waifu Pokemon", and doesnt help they do a thing called Mating Bond, where they use their psych powers to fuse their lives together.

And in this case, if you think they have a very good relationship...

ITS NOT WHAT HAPPENS HERE.

Diantha in the comics is coerced by her Gardevoir into sexual relationships, even using her psych powers to rape her. And she cant escape or cut the bond, as Syir use it to control and track her, like a leash. Also, Syir kills anyone who discovers about the True nature of their relationship, and its implied in some comics that everyone knows the nature of their relationship but dont do anything in fear of getting killed next.

2-Why no one tried to stop her?

A thing from Poke Madhouse is that Gardevoirs are in risk of extinction and have very short lifespans because of excessive breeding to get perfect Gardevoirs and shinies (Basically Lily dissing People who do this). So they are an endangered species. Also, this was Lily decision, without any reason besides "why not?"

There were at least 3 People who gave reasonable plans to defeat her. Poison, Guns, attack with pokemons with type advantage. All good and reasonable things within pokemon universe. However, all Lily answered them was a meme.

This meme

Basically, the answer to everyone wanting to defeat Syir. Literally a "You cant" in form of a bad meme.

Lily says that Syir is too powerful and evil to be defeated, to the point there's nothing anyone can do. Even G and C!Lily couldnt. Hell even Bonnie cant stop her, lily said that if they met Bonnie would cry and hide.

Actually, this will be the final topic, the reason i hate her.

3-Snitches get Stitches

In 2020, Lily added a thing in Madhouse wikia Page of Syir, currently deleted by her. She added a small lore info about Diantha and Syir.

Diantha one day managed to escape Syir and tried to find Help on the last person who tried to stop her Gardevoir: C!Lily.

C!Lily was an enforcer, a kind of pokemon cop, who really tried to stop Syir. However, Syir almost murdered both her and G, wich made C!Lily abandon all investigation she made, and made her terrified of Syir.

Diantha begged her for help, to find a way to save her. But C!Lily didnt wanted to help, because Syir threatened to kill everyone who she loved if she tried anything.

So what C!Lily did?

She gave Diantha back to Syir.

She GAVE. AN ABUSE VICTIM. BACK TO ITS ABUSER.

Now you get it why i feel so much hate towards her?

I dont care about any drama of hers, i cant EXCUSE THAT SHE WROTE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WANTS ME TO LIKE HER CHARACTERS.

TO LIKE G, C!LILY OR ANYONE ELSE.

She May have deleted the original pages and only left the nuke attack she gave to Syir.

But i will never forget what she did.

And i will never forgive.

[sickness-stricken]

Apparently the “is it beastiality or not to want to fuck a Pokémon” discourse is coming up again in regards to PokeMadhouse and… yall.

Lily Orchard isn’t a zoophile because she wants to fuck the Pokémon that looks like an alien lady and speaks English

Lily Orchard is a zoophile because she commissioned someone she groomed to draw art of her fucking dogs

Like I’m sorry but can we please redirect our focus a little

[not-miles]

You can criticize something without attacking it.

I want to say that I hate Lily Orchard as a horrible critic and equally horrible human being, but just know that as someone who loves Steven Universe, She-Ra And The Princess Of Power, The Owl House, Avatar: The Last Airbender, The Legend Of Korra and others, I will never bond with the critical-communities/hatedooms of them (like the SU criticals, SPOP criticals, ATLA criticals and so forth).

I have no time or patience for such negativity and elitism in my life.