#tw// homophobia

[acknowledge-reigns]

TW// Mention of car accident, wishing harm on Roman, use of F slur.

Y'all take this shit too fucking seriously then wonder why nobody rocks with certain parts of the fanbase. Fuck outta here.

[joestarkisser]

TW// fatphobia, homophobia, biphobia, transphobia, and other forms or bigotry as well as mention of slurs (generalized, these aren't mentioned by name but just to be safe!)

Hey y'all... did you all know... that if you're a minority who finds catharsis in imagining your F/Os being bigoted toward you.. that is super cool and good...

Yeah... wild right... whether it's a scenario in which you're being degraded in a scene with an F/O, where it's all just play for arousal, or if you prefer to just have your F/O be bigoted toward you in sex for pleasure... or if you just like them being shitty toward you.. that's super cool and awesome and good you all...

Finding catharsis and pleasure in this kind of fantasizing, especially if it's in a sexual context, is your right as a minority or person that faces discrimination for the group you belong to... and nobody besides your personal trained mental health professional should say jack shit..

Yes.. even if you like hardcore fantasies where your F/O uses serious slurs or the like...

Like.. it's so up to you guys how you wanna interact with fiction and if this stuff makes you feel good sexually or otherwise that's really awesomesauce epico..

[illithussy]

reddit is still free. also tbh good riddance for the op

edit for everyone who is confused: shart is shadowheart, people shorten her name that way as a joke on reddit

[not-alpharious]

I really hope that when Space Marine II comes out they let you choose Titus’ pronouns just to fuck with this guy specifically

[fidanmev]

he bribes her with gum or something later and she becomes an ally guys dw

[blairelythere]

"Teaching kids about gay shit is grooming and desensitization"

alright, what about the hundreds, if not thousands of homophobic and transphobic jokes I had to hear as a young, impressionable kid? how is that not desensitization and grooming?

[roadhogsbigbelly]

this is like 99 percent of lgbt discourse online right now lol

[draw-the-squad-like-this]

Draw your OTP like this

[raymusterio]

Nex Benedict deserved to live.

That's not just bullying, that's assault and murder.

Notice how the "save the children" crowd is literally nowhere to be seen?

[star-anise]

I get how it's not actually paradoxical or surprising but it's eternally hilarious to me when the same people who say "But they're your FAMILY! You can't turn your back on the people who raised you!!!" also think it's a-ok to disown your children for the high crimes and misdemeanours of like. Smoking pot. Getting pregnant. Sucking dick.

[saintjosie]

a couple months ago, i took a bit of a risk and played a show opening for a friend’s band, in a small city in a very conservative state in the south. my friend warned me that they didn’t know anything about the venue or the kind of people that would be there but i said fuck it and did it anyways.

so there i am, my extremely transgender self, standing in front of about 30 middle-class-brewery-bougie people, singing extremely transgender songs about religious trauma, trans joy, and self love, making a room full of people who had no idea who i am, empathize with my story, cry, and celebrate trans joy.

and during the show, i of course thank my incredible girlfriend for supporting me on my journey and helping me love myself. this is very important and very relevant to this story.

after im done, im thinking, fuck yeah this is awesome, i can’t believe that these very cis het people resonated with my music so much

when this older woman and her husband comes up to me and tells me how much they enjoyed hearing my story.

and then tell me that she is THE PASTORS WIFE AND HE’S THE HEAD PASTOR.

and THEN they tell me that their son is playing in the headlining band, and i realize that most of the people in the room are people FROM THAT CHURCH and i just sang my very transgender and anti-religious music to a room full of weirdly supportive christians.

and then they all proceed to tell me how much they enjoyed my music and then also tell me how awesome it is that my “friend” is so supportive and came to the show, when i literally said during the show that she’s my girlfriend.

you’ve heard of trans inclusive radical misogny, now introducing trans inclusive homophobia?

9/10 show, would not attempt again.

[cinematicnomad]

9-1-1 ▸ 2.09 hen begins

[lylahammar]

btw this is a downer but important: project 2025 plans to criminalize pornography, and defines all queer affirming content as such, so a lot of trans creators might have to delete a lot of videos in the future in order to protect themselves. Natalie Wynn (Contrapoints) posted on Patreon about how this is a threat to her career, and she might have to take down a lot of her channel. If you have any comfort content that's made by queer (especially trans) creators, now is a good time to download it for your personal use just in case.

[mostly-funnytwittertweets]

[lgbtqtext]

[anniflamma]

So I’ve received a couple of anonymous messages telling me that they were really disappointed in me for liking Elian's Antinous fanart. Instead of answering them individually, I’m just going to make an angry rant post instead. Most of if probably won't make sense anyway.

This post have talk about SA, and homophobia. Be aware. I don’t ship genuinely Telemachus and Antinous, if that’s what you’re wondering. I didn’t even consider the possibility that ship could even exist. At the end of the day, I don't care about that ship.

And do you want me to explain that I know SA is bad? Or that I’m aware Telemachus/Antinous is a toxic ship? Do you think I’m dumb and don’t know that? You don't have to explain to me either, I know that SA is bad, I have experienced it, you don't have to explain to me, trust me I know.

I like Elian's art because it’s really beautiful. Her work is a huge inspiration and encouragement for me when making animatics. But do I REALLY have to spell out, word for word, that I know Antinous is an antagonist and tries to do bad things? Does it mean every time someone draws Antinous and I like it, I have to explain that I like the drawing because it’s well done, not because I support Antinous’ intent toward Penelope and wants to kill Telemachus?

I mean, I’ve seen tons of thirsty comments like, "I hate how Zeus treats women, but your design is really hot" or "Even if Poseidon SA Demeter, this Poseidon I'd go down on all fours for!"

I have seen some stuff….

I guess I could just imitate something like that????

But I know it’s a joke and I know its a fantasy that someone is expressing. Its not real, its fictional. I know all those thirsty ppl who simp over Poseidon, Zeus, or even Antinous aren’t supporting hatred and violence toward women. And yes, I am expecting that you should already know this too. Because if we gonna assume the worst of ppl… Then everyone who likes Greek myth/Epic the musical are pro SA. "Do you like Crice from Epic the musical? That means that you support her actions, you support SA!" "Oh you like Odysseus?! He killed a baby and all of his female slaves cuz they got SA by the suitors! You support infanticide, slavery and SA!" Do you hear how dumb that sounds? To be honest, I wouldn’t be that surprised if there are some who think like this. I mean, this discussion wouldn’t even be a thing, right.

And if you don’t know, I literally make thirst art of Poseidon (and that includes Zeus and Hermes), and you don’t see it as a bad thing??? It’s Poseidon… Do you know what he has done to women in the myths?!

Im going to ramble here and I will bring up stories from greek myth that have SA in it. So be aware.

One example is the story of Caeneus. When Caeneus was a woman, his parents left him to take care of the house while they were out running errands. Poseidon took that as an opportunity to break into the house and sexually assault him. This is probably the only myth where Poseidon actually feels bad after what he did, so he grants Caeneus a wish. Aww, how sweet~~~ /sarcasm.

Do I need to give an example of Zeus? We all know what Zeus does. But hey, I’ve made Poseidon/Hermes ship art. And guess what? There’s a story where Hermes breaks a woman’s leg so she can’t run away from him, and then he sexually assaults her. Isn’t that cute~~! /sarcasm

Heck, I can even go on with my biblical ships. David/Jonathan—David, a serial assaulter and murderer, and Jonathan, a mass murderer. But do I support their actions? No, I do not support mass murder, and its really dumb that I have to spell it out for you.

Daniel/Darius is even questionable too! It's literally a king and his servant, and that power imbalance is so big I don’t know what to tell you! Do I have to spell it out that I know that, in real life, king/servant relationships aren’t cute at all?!

All of these characters that I’ve listed have done or represent horrible things. And I have to tell you that I don't support their actions?! Really? You really can't think outside the box?

But do you see what I’m trying to tell you? We can simp over other ancient mythological figures but Antinous is the red line that we can never cross??? It’s hypocritical and immature, that’s what it is.

Right now, ppl loves the Ody seduces Zeus art I made. And that "ship" is well really questionable too! But nobody have called me a witch and tries to burn me at the stake yet. 😐

And the thing is, I can separate these fictional characters from the real world. I can also separate the fictional material from other fictional interpretations. Exemple, I like The Song of Achilles, in it, they are the same age, but I am also aware that in the Iliad, Achilles is 16 and Patroclus is 26. But do I automatically assume that Madeline Miller likes teens? No! Do I assume that everyone who likes The Song Of Achilles like that shit? No!

But we still can have a disscussion about it without making it into a witch trial.

As long as we can separate different fictional materials, then everything is fine. It only becomes a problem if a person can’t separate them. Then we have a problem. I can acknowledge that my depiction of King David from the bible is not the same as from the original story and that he is horrible person towards women. If I couldn't acknowledge that, then its bad! The same goes for Antinous if someone makes an AU or headcanon about him. If someone want so make AUs about Antinous, my first thoughts isnt "Oh they like to SA ppl!". At the end of the day, this is just a group from tiktok who didn’t like a toxic ship and decided to bully an artist while acting like they have superior morals.

And I get this type of shit from christians when I make my queer bible interpitations, both from those that don't like the queer stuff but also those that points out that David and Jonathan were horrible ppl.

So I rarely answer comments like this because they usually end up spewing beliefs filled with homophobia and Islamophobia. Heck rasism sometimes, apparently, Christians don’t know that the Bible takes place in the Middle East, and they are angry at me for drawing them looking like Arabs! I just delete their comments before they gets there. Making queer biblical animatics on TikTok that go viral on the Christian side is not fun at all guys....

And hate to say it but tiktok Epic fans sound really similar. You are acting like you’re on a pedestal, holier than thou. Its just a different font.

+ I haven’t forgotten all those homophobic comments I got on my David/Jonathan animatic that I posted right after my Ruthlessness animatic. Epic fans were saying they didn’t want “that gay shit” and wanted to see more Epic stuff. Hate to break it to you all, but the Epic fandom isn’t that innocent.