#tu lore

[homochampagne]

quinn’s in love and death stream summary: all of the lore

he described the way bert’s voice sounds towards the ending of i caught fire as “cute and sweet”

he said he has synesthesia and gave us a color for a lot of the songs. the only ones i remember are: i caught fire is red and yesterdays feelings is green

at the beginning of yesterdays feelings, quinn’s voice can be heard saying “creaks and cracks”. it turns out he was talking about a really old guitar he was playing that wasn’t very good for recording because it made noises as you played

regarding the meaning of yesterdays feelings, quinn said he couldn’t describe it.

a lot of the songs on this album were from ideas quinn came up with. he said he did background vocals on about 75% of the songs

light with a sharpened edge was a title bert came up with, quinn said he really liked that title

in 2004, while the used was working on in love and death and mcr was working on revenge, the two bands lived in the same apartment building in la and would hang out a lot. gerard would come over to quinn’s place and quinn told a story about gerard playing 3 songs from revenge for quinn in his bedroom. quinn said he remembered thinking revenge sounded very cohesive and in love and death was a lot different; it was kind of all over the place and he worried it was too pop and that they were getting too far away from the used’s original sound. he played some songs for gerard as well

quinn talked really positively about mcr, he described them as having a “vampire motorcycle gang” aesthetic back in the day. around 2003 i believe the used took mcr on tour in europe with them; quinn said he’d often film them/take pics of them from the side stage, at one point he was thinking about maybe making a music video for them of liveshow clips but that never happened. he remembers being sure that mcr would become a really huge band (they were still in bullets era at this time)

in 2004 during the writing and recording of in love and death quinn was doing mushrooms and smoking weed and he was reading a lot of philosophy books. i forget the authors name, but chapter 8 of a book he was reading that was about transferring the perspectives/teachings of eastern philosophy into a western lens was called “how to be a genuine fake”. at this time, tensions between him and bert were high, they were butting heads a lot and quinn was sick of his behaviour. he noted how bert would act around people/treat people completely differently; he’d be great to some people and horrible to others. in quinn’s room at the apartment, he handed bert the philosophy book opened to the “how to be a genuine fake” chapter and told him to read it. bert read one page and then threw it on the bed and was like “whatever”. a few days later, bert had written lyrics to a song and said it was titled “i’m a fake”

someone asked about blue and yellow and he said “yes that song’s about me”; he gave us the exact meaning of the “your hands were shaking” line. feldy and bert have both told a story about how during the recording of the first album, bert disappeared for ~2 weeks. bert said he met some girl and was gonna quit the band and whatever. (<- when he’s talking about blue and yellow in that interview, it’s one of those half-truths where like, it did happen, yes, but it’s like the irrelevant part of the larger story, which he obvs doesn’t want to talk about now. gina is a convenient fake inspiration. this section of this interview is so eyeroll inducing because he literally admits to lying about the song in the kirsten dunst part. bert has talked about quinn being the subject of blue and yellow so many times; i have very thorough citations & proof for all of the blue and yellow stuff in my fic masterguide). REGARDLESS, when bert finally showed up at feldy’s again, quinn said that he was so mad and upset that his hands were shaking. (when i say disappeared i mean DISAPPEARED like they couldn’t contact him at all). quinn said that feldy just hugged bert and was like “you can’t do that”. quinn said that at times, feldy was kind of like their dad.

as we all know, all that i’ve got is about bert’s dog david bowie that passed away by getting hit by a car, which in some roundabout way was due to the wrong plane ticket being booked for him meaning he couldn’t take bowie, so he left him with someone who was going to drive him out to wherever the band was heading. quinn said that the line “so deep that it didn’t even bleed” is a reference to the phonecall bert received from his dad who broke the news to him that bowie died, saying “it was quick, there wasn’t even any blood”

the line “i couldn’t come/you couldn’t come” in cut up angels means cum, like orgasm

sound effects and overdramatics is about sex, relationships, and drugs/addiction

feldy told quinn to listen to the beatles entire discography around this time, which he did. he said that there were definitely beatles and nirvana influences on this album. he specifically mentioned territorial pissings, and he mentioned playing a beatles riff backwards on one of the songs but i can’t remember which one :( sorry

quinn likes thursday, and he listened to full collapse a lot

when asked, he said he likes fall out boy

he still talks to mikey sometimes

someone asked if his kids know the used songs and he basically said no, and then he started talking about how his son says “skibidi” and “rizz” and “ohio” and “brainrot” and he like knew all of the lingo???? NDSJSKAKKS and then he was like “back in my day the cringe stuff we would quote was pauly shore” (i’m paraphrasing) and then he did a pauly shore impression

off-tour he would just live out of his backpack, and he rented a spare bedroom at his friends house (im assuming this was like late 2002-early 2004 because in summer 2004 they had the la apartment). he built a bed out of bricks with planks of wood on top. (……this info combined with him just sleeping on the floor of his bedroom at his parents place because there was no bed makes me think he was just used to sleeping on hard surfaces????)

he confirmed that hard to say is about kate, bert’s girlfriend who passed away during the recording of in love and death. it was a song that was added in right at the end of recording and they weren’t sure if they would keep it in. quinn said that he and his family were close to kate, because back at the beginning of the band when bert joined and quinn said he could move in with him, kate lived with them for a period of time too. quinn said that bert and kate were recovering addicts and that he left home for a while at this point because they were staying in his bedroom and sometimes it was “hard to be around them”. we know for sure that quinn sometimes did stay there with bert, because of the whole story where they were sleeping on his bedroom floor together when feldy called from norway in the summer of 2001 and blah blah blah (which he told on branden’s podcast)

towards the end of the recording of in love and death, quinn said that he and bert were not speaking to each other. finding album cover artwork became his responsibility, quinn found alex pardee and basically organized/chose all of the album artwork working with alex (who was the artist)

because we would never figure it out, he told us a secret about ocean of the sky. put on the film 2001: a space odyssey, skip to 20 minutes and 1 second from the ending and play the song tethys and it’s supposed to line up exactly to what happens on-screen. he was inspired by those rumors that you could do the same thing with the original wizard of oz and pink floyd’s dark side of the moon. the guys had been talking about 2001: a space odyssey in regards to ocean of the sky, the “ocean of the sky” meaning outer space. he said he created the song tethys in one sitting, from 9pm - 6am and his computer crashed twice. he digitally mixed it and then sent it off at 9am that morning and that was the last song on that ep.

quinn said that he’s happy bert’s sober now, but it’s “too little, too late” (his exact words)

he confirmed that bert’s struggle with addiction and his behaviour for the majority of the time quinn was in the band was what lead to quinn’s departure. it was draining, exhausting, and the 23 hours a day that they were not on stage was a “nightmare”. he says very confidently that he’s happier now. (side note: if you haven’t listened to this interview with bert about addiction/sobriety i think you should, because he gives details regarding the severity of what was happening. tw: discussion of self-harm)

when asked if there’s any chance he’ll ever play a show with the used again, he said “no”

re: the band and quinn’s frustrations about bert, quinn said he found himself “sitting on his hands” (exact words) a lot of the time and just going along with whatever was happening because he had no other means of enacting change that would actually work (paraphrased). he used a really good metaphor of letting bert “drive”, but quinn would always have “one hand on the wheel”… i feel like that’s self-explanatory

during part of this section of the stream, he got emotional and teary-eyed and said that some of it is hard to talk about

regarding some of the meaning behind quinn’s song i digress, quinn said that it’s about the difficult experience of trying to help a friend who struggles with severe depression and persistent suicidal thoughts, and how he felt that all of his efforts were futile. this seemed to be a recent experience of his. he also spoke about a similarity between this situation and being in the band, which he described as very negative and emotionally taxing when you continually try to help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. for his emotional wellbeing he needed to step away (in both situations). he also clarified that the lyric is “i’m hanging by your thread” which i got wrong in my transcription. he compared the “i’m hanging by your thread” line to the heart noose.

quinn showed us the physical prototype for his book which is completely finished. he is hopeful that pre-orders will be available in mid-october through kickstarter, he is planning to make a signed book and cassette tape ep bundle which he wants us to receive before christmas (this is all tentative).

he is apparently filming a music video for his second single today (yesterday he spent building the set for it). physical versions of his ep will only be available in cassette tape form because that’s what he grew up with, he likes that they’re small and easy to display

the book has A LOT of exclusive photos in it. he showed us some pages of the book. he said that he started writing it/working on it back when he left the band as a therapeutic, cathartic hobby. aside from the written chapters, there are a lot of pages he created in photoshop that have photo collages that he would draw little pictures on and organize. he said he would work on this to process his emotions, he would cry and let himself feel angry or upset, but it ended up being a very healing project

someone mentioned that they gave him a scrapbook in 2012 (he remembered it) and he said that he still has all of the stuff that the fans gave him/the band. he would box all of it up after their tours and ship it to his house. some of this fan stuff is featured in the book

he really enjoyed the stream and he will likely do another one sometime in the near future (no date is set yet). he’d like to do a listening party for the first album and talk about the songs/behind the scenes lore like he did for this one. he’d also be open to doing a stream just about guitars. people were requesting for him to put out official guitar tabs for the used songs and he said he’ll definitely work on it now that he knows there is interest

he had literally stacks of old photos and showed us some of them which i’ll make a separate post for. at one point he was like “ohhh i can’t show you those” and skipped through a bunch which is just the most infuriatingly intriguing thing like…… i can only imagine.

this was all just written from memory bc for some insane reason recording desktop audio on obs if you have a mac is literally impossible which is crazy in 2024 but regardless i think the livestreams are more special if they aren’t recorded because you have to be there to witness it. i got the vibe that he doesn’t want them to be saved (he said “i can’t” but that’s not true), so instead of asking him in chat next time and you really really want to save it, just record it for your own personal viewing and keep it on the down low. (i’m not telling anyone what to do but i feel like re-uploading to youtube would be against his wishes (he never said this, it’s just my inference)).

if anyone who watched feels like i missed a crucial piece of lore, feel free to add XD

[empquipress]

realized i never posted some little doodles i made of @narcissistcookbook and @bughuntermusic / @jammechanics. both based off tour and podcast art by the lovely DeepBlueInk.

if anybody got charms of the latter that I was giving out at the show, absolutely feel free to show me cause I would love to see where they all ended up!

[bitspieces]

It is the morning of the Ides of March, you are getting ready for a day in the senate. Someone knocks at your door. You are Caesar.

[sacachorch0vo]

MOMENTO

Yo a ese le conozco

@erizumon Siempre diva, nunca indiva

[dearmyloveleys]

bunnies this bunnies that they fuck like bunnies

[felixravinstills]

President Ravinstill and Failed Fatherhood

President. First Citizen. Father of the Country. Maximinius Ravinstill had been that if nothing else.

pater patriae/exu: calamity, ep. 4/ the death of antony/tu fui, ego eris/exu: calamity/ caesar's dismay upon seeing pompey's head/pater patriae/exu: calamity/ivan the terrible and his son ivan/ave atque vale/tbosas (movie)

*unsure if it's clear, so dying/dead romans and ivan the terrible and his son paintings are meant to symbolize marius, gnaeus, and felix's deaths in reverse chronological order. marius and gnaeus being my ravinstill extended family ocs.

[gordiicore]

[echotunes]

hab grad die fränkisch-option im minecraft-sprachenmenü gefunden. ich muss sagen ich bin fasziniert

[randomartsideblog]

Crime I havent drawn baile folklórico in a while. My mom has had me thinking of El Salvador recently.

[catsconflictscopicsandchamomile]

Sometimes having an Extremely Detailed Personal Version Of Spn PS16-18 made up of all the actors’ projects since 15x20 can be so painful bc. How do I explain the sheer levels of angst I’m feeling from Edward and Stella Winchester* and Dean Jr being a parallel to Sam, Dean and Adam? The (technically)older pair of siblings who would die for each other, trying to save their dad but discovering that powerful forces have much larger (and more apocalyptic) plans for them, even right down to the older sibling trying and failing to shield the younger from the mental & physical torment of becoming an unwilling vessel to something terrible… and then the estranged (technically, kinda)youngest half-sibling who disappeared into the underworld and has been missing for a year, but never knew his father, or any of his family, long enough for the narrative to consider him worth saving….

,,,fuck,,,,,

*Ruby should not have been allowed to name children

[blue0blink]

El regreso de Luzu al qsmp me respira en la nuca, lo siento cerca y no es esquizofrenia

[homochampagne]

Bad news: my outline contains an extended gerbert plot because I have spent time in the gerbert trenches, my issue with gerbert is the character assassination that such fics usually do to Bert, I love the concept of the ship… “we go out in a musical sense” and all that… as long as it’s a total trainwreck on both sides that’s completely and utterly doomed and Bert isn’t The Bad Guy or some sort of child with a sugar high. That one MCR fanfic where Bert is Gerard’s abusive boyfriend IMO had long lasting and far reaching effects on how MCR fans talk about Bert, and I hate it. But main ship? Bert/Quinn, Bert and Gerard are DOOMED.

firstly i totally think you should write about whatever makes you happy and/or whatever interests you so don’t let me dissuade you from that.

but with that being said, here are my honest thoughts about gerbert:

“That one MCR fanfic where Bert is Gerard’s abusive boyfriend IMO had long lasting and far reaching effects on how MCR fans talk about Bert”

there were a lot of fics like that which i believe directly stemmed from this magazine feature where bert addresses their falling out. i think that the hardcore mcr stans of 2007 and beyond took great offence to it and could not stand to see any negative criticism pointed towards gerard. the fact that there could have been a kernel of truth to what bert was saying in that interview (or even just the simple fact that this is how bert felt, emotionally, about the members of mcr at the time, based on his personal experiences with them) was unfathomable to them and therefore bert was a Liar and an Evil Person and was basically reduced to a Jealous Ex-Girlfriend type of role.

and then obviously this trope got recreated in fic time and time again (over a period of 10-15 years) by people who didn’t even know the origin of why bert was depicted this way or what even happened between him and gerard.

but on to your main point, i totally understand what you mean when you say you like the narrative concept of “we go out in a musical sense” because that truly is such a batshit crazy thing to say and bert’s reaction to it in that famous interview with the two of them was funny. the era of gerbert was of course super homoerotic and they both played into it but in my opinion i don’t think there was anything actually romantic between them—i think it falls into that category of “on the road” gay experiences that souryogurt64 talks about in her prison essay. for gerbert to be “doomed” as you say, implies some modicum of love or would-be-love on a romantic scale and i really don’t think that was the case for a multitude of reasons.

1. for gerard the public gayness and kissing boys was a political statement against homophobia and toxic masculinity (which was his “explanation” for the frerard kisses as well)—i think bert and gerard were briefly a good match simply in the sense that bert was open to participating in these public displays of affection and gerard needed a dude who was open to doing this with him. and of course this all ties into bert’s participation with ‘prison’ and its messages about homosexuality and gender expression in the early 2000s.

2. at this time bert already had a very open laissez faire attitude about his own sexuality, saying things like he “isn’t any specific type of sexual being” and that he “lives in the moment” and that “i could be gay but i could not be, it doesn’t really matter” on public radio, which shows that he cared about the destigmatization of gay male relationships in a, while subtle, political way. i’m saying all of this for the fact that he and gerard’s political inclinations aligned and i think that that was the true motivating factor of any explicit gayness between them in public, combined with the fact that they were friends and bert had an “open sexuality”

3. i have reason to believe that if anything actually romantic or sexual happened between them, bert would have, at some point, said that that was the case—when asked, he explicitly said that “At the time, Gerard and I had such a close friendship that we weren't afraid to hold hands or, you know, kiss for fun. It was never anything truly intimate, or actually sexual. It was a fun little show we were putting on. So I associate ‘You Know What They Do to Guys Like Us in Prison’ with that kind of carefree sexual freedom.” you can call me naive if you want but i do truly believe he’s telling the truth here, because:

4. bert has been open about intimate gay experiences of his that were romantic and sexual in nature which he’s spoken about regarding the canyon. yes, you could argue that out of respect, bert wouldn’t publicly speak about ‘truly intimate moments’ he and gerard had together, but i think bert describing his and gerard’s kisses as “a little show we were putting on” versus the private experiences he was having with other men at that time which were NEVER public or even spoken about shows the clear difference between bert’s actual gay relationships and stage-gay-between-friends

tldr—i think they simply kissed/acted gay together to make a public statement about ‘sexual freedom’ between two men which bert mentioned above, they also bonded through the fact that gerard would binge drink and do drugs with him at the time which in bert’s case was fulled by a need for disassociation from trauma, and then they stopped being friends for the reasons bert explicated in the blunt magazine interview i linked above

what occurred between him and quinn i think was CLEARLY romantic for reasons that you’re totally aware of and that i can’t even get into right now for time’s sake and i’ve already written a novel here (i mean my masterguide is 10k words and even since writing that i’ve found more stuff that i didn’t even know about at the time). bert once mentioned that he couldn’t fully discuss his feelings about his parents and childhood trauma because “they’re still alive” and i think it’s a similar case here regarding quinn in that out of respect for him and his privacy he wouldn’t speak about the deep interpersonal things that happened between them. this also aligns with him “letting quinn dictate the story” of their falling out, because i think if bert were to truly speak on the matter like how candidly he spoke about him and tregan, it would reveal stuff that quinn would not be okay with becoming public information. (and i mean i wouldn’t blame bert if he wanted it to stay private as well).

anyways quert was real and gerbert wasn’t, that’s my thesis.

[the-untouched-story]

Slinker Species

* universe’s deadliest balloon animals

* They don’t eat! Or breathe!

* Borderline on the definition of a living thing

* Have a thick black leather skin

* The insides are mostly gas

* Then the skin is fully pierced and the gas leaks, they explode. Making a 5 mile circular crater.

* The only bones are in the head

* They Have fur! The fur can be any shade of gray or can be white. The base color is usually black

* They too spawn in like a Minecraft character

* However there are no known requirements for one to exist

* Tend to group up once they find other Slinkers

* A group of Slinkers is called a search

* The group of Slinkers can be any size

* Slinkers usually spend time researching things, usually planet’s ecosystems and history. But can be anytime

* Slinkers can be any size up to a large dog (like a Doberman)

[hbxplain]

Find the Word Tag

thanks to @ceph-the-ghost-writer for the tag! this reminded me that sls is actually really fun and i should get back to writing it asd;flkj

i'll be tagging @mallthologist @jezifster @writing-and-trying, @juls-writes, @moonlitinks, @aquil-writes, @unholyspaceprophet

your words are: believe, awful, particular, tug, and lying.

my words were: impulse, main, enhance, table, and temperature, and i'll be finding them in seven lovely sins! I couldn't find "enhance" or "table" so I just used some longer excerpts to make up for it ^.^

Impulse

Vice’s parents have always been the bleeding-heart types; they’d take in all the kids in the world, if they could. They never did, but it’s one thing to want to save up enough money to be absolutely sure you could support a second kid no matter what and then go through the entire adoption process, and another entirely to impulsively tell a teen in active danger that he has a safe place in your home.

Vice waits for some form of jealousy or defensiveness to crop up in her chest… but it doesn’t. She realizes she wouldn’t actually mind having Eli around more often. He’s genuinely her friend, someone she almost trusts. She doesn’t want him to take over her entire life… but she does really like him.

And that is horrible for her mission. How is she supposed to say ‘no’ to keeping one of her first friends and getting her parents back? She wants to tell them everything. What could possibly make her want to go back to Hell, when it doesn’t have her parents and it doesn’t have Eli?

Main

Before she’s anywhere near ready, she finds herself in front of NASA’s main doors. The security guards nod her in, and she takes a deep breath as she steps into the elevator, pressing the button to send her up to the human research and invention floor. She counts her steps as she walks down the hall, and she holds her breath as she takes her lab coat off the hook and shrugs it on, and she finally exhales as she swings open the doors to see-

Sienne.

“We are going to be civil,” Sienne hisses, “because we are at work, and Tigh is not going to sacrifice his dream job because of your sick, twisted self.”

“What?” Tu squeaks, not quite comprehending the situation.

“I know what you are,” Sienne says proudly, hands on her hips. “And I have only one thing to say to you.”

“Uh huh,” Tu says, wondering if Sienne’s the type of person to come into work while high. She tries to stand up on her tiptoes and peer past Sienne, looking for Tigh. “And what’s that?”

Sienne moves to block her view, and a big, shark-like grin crosses her face. “Nice fucking try, Jezebel!”

Table

He begins tinkering with a tiny machine part on the table, explaining as he goes. “This is part of one of my current projects,” he says. “It needed a better eximium sensor—wait, you know what eximium is, right?”

“‘Course I do,” she says, because who doesn’t? “But I like hearing your voice, so tell me anyway.”

Tigh’s blush gets heavier, and he fumbles the screwdriver in his hand for a second. “Uh- Right, sure, yeah! So, eximium is the metal that everyone has in their blood. It contributes to your immune system, but also—for a small bit of the population—it activates in such a way as to give you a very malleable sort of magic, or powers. Thing is, eximium is still a metal, which means that we can manipulate it with the right machines.”

“Which is what you’re doing,” she replies.

“What I’m trying to do,” he corrects her with a little smile.

[mossmx]

@naivesilver

Dhxjsjxhdhshdhd I love my bf so much he just said "hey do you ever see a picture that changes your life forever" and then showed me a photo of a loaf of bread shaped like a crocodile

[garvalhaminho]

songs you are learn at school are so funny to me. we were like 8yo singing the portuguese equivalent to "if you saw what i saw/in front of the court/the judge's underwear/wrapped in the newspaper/this street smells like blood/it was someone who killed themselves/it was my love's mother/from the window she threw herself" and no one in my private catholic school even questioned it 😭😭