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this is me nitpicking, but it bothered me ever since i noticed it, so
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so, in the podcast, Amir shouts at Rupert to toughen up, to fend for himself, 'cause Amir couldn't save him anymore. and while i could generally understand this being in a moment of anger, i feel like this still leaves Rupert looking like a male damsel of some sort, since Amir doesn't specifically apologize for that, just for yelling.
and it looks like this has at least some effect on a few of the fans too, from what i've seen? 'cause i've read here and there on how people like that Rupert took 'more initiative' in s2, when it never came off to me as him not doing so in s1?
sure, he's not as physically strong as Amir, but it's not like Ru hasn't done his own thing until s2.
the voice didn't have to convince Rupert to go to the Hollow, anyway. he was already going to do that, because his Kingdom was in danger and his mom sure as hell wasn't going to do anything about it.
yes, he was unprepared, but most teenagers would be, especially since he didn't have time to go back and get supplies.
and in the forest, he was willing to fight. poorly, but still willing.
when Amir had the cave collapse on him and trap his legs, Rupert was confident and determined in saving him, despite the protests. and he technically saved Porridge, too.
and then when Amir was ( not? ) about to send Porridge running, Rupert stood up to him and told him to knock it the fuck off.
then made a plan to trick Barabbas, Cedric, and Crazytooth to give their weapons and leave them defenseless, saving himself and Amir.
then he technically saves both of them again by surrendering and confessing his love for Amir in the forest, which heals it.
and throughout most of this, he keeps the overall objective in mind. to get to the Hollow and break the curse.
like.
he's not a helpless twig.
he's a pretty capable guy, just might not be able to throw a punch without spraining ( or breaking ) it.
i guess people think he took more initiative because he was more willing to bring out his sword and more prone to being stern // angry or something like that, but i don't think it was for the better ( as in, i don't think s2 improved Ru's character that much ).
soooo...
if it were me, i would've made Amir recognize Ru's capabilities pre-s2.
#the two princes#the two princes podcast#ttp#ttp rupert#ttp amir#prince rupert#prince amir#rumir#ttp crit#i guess#yeah it kinda is#i dislike s2#a bit#quite a bit#that's likely not surprising
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when you get into a series and then stupid shit happens.
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so, i got into a podcast from 2019 called 'The Two Princes', and i love it. it's very charming, basically like a show in audio form, and full of queer. listen to it frequently, got into the tags on my socials, found some fanart and fics and a bit of inspiration.
but during my searches of fanart, i came across two things.
people calling the main relationship ( rupert x amir ) an EtL
some people comparing it to c//a
both of these severely bothered me, and i'm gonna explain why.
for the first one, it's very simple. rupert and amir were not really enemies, in terms of their actual dynamic. according to this red herring of a prophecy, though, they are 'meant' to be enemies.
however, rupert lies about not being the prince of the west ( amir is prince of the east ), saying he's a thief, that his name is fitz, and that he wants nothing to do with his kingdom. this isn't because he holds any ill-will to his own kingdom, but because the east and the west are hostile and he didn't wanna get killed by amir leaving him behind in the forest.
so, their actual dynamic was more of 'unfriendly strangers to friends to lovers'. because amir was a bit uppity and micromanaged, while rupert was more soft(?) and tended to overreact // overly panic. that, and the span of the first season is 3 days. you can't really go from being enemies to lovers in 3 days. in most cases, i guess.
anyway, moving onto the even more frustrating point.
the princes are nothing like catra and adora. absolutely nothing alike. not even a little.
i'm guessing part of the reason is because amir asks rupert to stay. but the context of that situation vs catra repeatedly demanding asking adora to stay is entirely different.
amir asks rupert to stay because, despite being prickly, rupert saved his life and continued being kind to him. he doesn't ask him to stay because of any self-importance, or because he wants rupert to do dirty work, or for any other reason but because amir likes him and wants them to be friends.
that is entirely different from why catra kept demanding asking adora to stay. she kept asking because she couldn't take no for an answer. because adora's ideals didn't align with hers. because she wanted adora for herself, and took any other options as a personal attack.
and another reason this comparison exists, i'm guessing, is because of the whole "they saved the world // universe // kingdom // wtv by kissing and being gay", which. that's still. no. but okay.
the prophecy in 'The Two Princes' is a red herring because it's misleading. it's not intending to be, but it is. everyone thought it meant that the two princes would fight to the death and one kingdom would rule over, when it actually meant for one kingdom to unite the east and west.
and amir and rupert figured that out by kissing and later on deciding to get married ( that's a general way of saying it, but it's cute, aight? they're very cute ).
in the final episode of spop, there was no actual reason or explanation for why any of that happened. it just happened because the show wanted it to.
why did a viral infection go away the moment catra kissed adora? THE FUCK IF WE KNOW!
why did that activate she-ra? 'CAUSE- LOVE! EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SISTERS, BUT WHATEVER!
why did the heart get destroyed by that? WHO CARES? WE DON'T!
final assumed reason is, again, because of the whole EtL thing.
like i said, 'The Two Princes' is not an EtL story.
and spop was never supposed to be an EtL story. but it is one, so there's that.
anyway, the writing isn't perfect, but if you like podcasts and wanna hear a cheesy-ass queer show with a disaster gay prince, disaster bi prince, a badass lesbian knight, a bi diva, a feral gay twink, a pathetic flirty gay twink, and a dragon and a dog, then give it a listen.
and there's a goat unicorn.
#spop#she ra#spop critical#spop salt#spop adora#spop catra#adora deserves better#the two princes#ttp#ttp rupert#ttp amir#know the difference between EtL and strangers on the wrong foot pls and thanks
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because people keep liking and reblogging and replying to the post saying they wished they could've voted
a year later, let's have a redo.
#the two princes#the two princes podcast#the two princes rupert#the two princes amir#ttp rupert#ttp amir#polls#b says things#b polls things#b queues things
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"Hi. Prince Rupert the First. Of the West. Nice to meet you. And you’re…the other prince of the Prophecy, aren’t you?"
"...that’s it?! You’re just going to introduce yourself, just like that? No lies or deceit about your identity? No knife in my back while you do it? No tricking me into a pit? What kind of a rival are you?"
Or: the one where Rupert succeeds in stealing the Forbidden Book, doesn’t lie to Amir when they first meet, and befriends the guy destined to kill him through sheer willpower.
My canon-divergent The Two Princes fic Veritas is back with a new chapter! To the three people who are still here, I hope this was worth the wait. More chapters to come, hopefully!
Excerpt from the latest chapter under the cut:
"The Kingdom of the East is thriving, despite the aftermath of our fathers' war. It will take more than a cursed Forest to destroy us," Amir says sharply.
"Sorry. I didn't mean to insinuate anything." A beat. "...my kingdom's not doing much better, really."
"That is why it is of the utmost importance that we are here, Prince Rupert."
#the two princes#the two princes podcast#ttp#ttp fanfiction#canon divergence#rumir#ttp rupert#ttp amir#truth au#vince writes stuff
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My name is Amir, prince of the East, no doubt you’ve heard of me
I’m the son of Queen Atossa
Heir to the golden throne
Defender of the burnished realm
Hero of the unstained blade
Protector of the sacred flame
Champion of the eternal truth
Art by me @ ferxotl
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More in class doodles
#it’s how I pay attention. kinda#it’s more like. when doodling I pay half attention which is better than just sitting there because then I zone out and completely lose track#Doodle Dilemma#The Two Princes#I don’t like this but I’m pushing through the self depreciation here to post this 👍#Rumir ttp#ttp Rupert#ttp Amir#there’s more for an AU fic I wanna write
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I drew these silly fellas
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Percy jr
The from the hit podcast of 2019
The two princesssss
#miss kookiio#the two princes#the two princes podcast#the two princes fan art#percy jr the two princes#ttp percy jr#meme#shut up my dad works for the Central intelligence agency and can get your entire neighborhood addicted to crack#ttp percy jr fanart'#percy Jr is such a silly lil guy#ttp rupert#ttp Amir
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My favorite hc. From this website
I for got amirs name and accidentally put rumir.
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The boys :]
#my art#art#fanart#the two princes#t2p#ttp podcast#ttp rupert#ttp amir#prince amir#prince rupert#gimlet#the two princes fanart#ttp fanart
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Merry Christmas Heartlanders!!!
Here's a parody Hallmark Movie Poster based on @fluctuating-fanby 's AU
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5% of the reason i gave Rupert long hair is because of those scenes in old Disney films and shoujo anime with dramatically flowing hair.
5% is because of a hc i made up where Rupert's hair always grows really fast, so when Lavinia would cut his hair really short, it'd just get back to its usual length in weeks.
40% of the reason was because i like long hair.
and 50% was for Rumir reasons. from domestic "Amir braiding Rupert's hair in the morning" to mid-adventure "them getting caught in the rain post-battle and Amir pushing Rupert's hair behind his ear".
#the two princes#the two princes podcast#ttp#ttp rupert#ttp amir#prince rupert#prince amir#rumir#long hair on men >>>
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I need to know for reasons.
#the two princes#ttp#ttp podcast#the two princes podcast#rumir#polls#poll#ttp amir#ttp rupert#Rupert ttp#amir ttp#prince rupert#prince amir#gimlet#shifty speaks
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"I don't want our story to be over for a very, very long time. I want years of adventures with you, good and bad."
A very happy 2023 to all of you! Here's to happy beginnings, indeed :D
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#the two princes#the two princes podcast#ttp rupert#ttp amir#rumir#the two princes fanart#I'M BACK MOTHERFUCKERS#gonna be posting my art from 2021-22 in the upcoming months#alongside my newer art#vince draws stuff#digital art
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does anyone on this hell site listen to the two princes ?
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Trying to get back into the writing mood to work on my big bang fic so here's a TTP fic I wrote if anyone wants it: x
#I have a feeling people on tumblr are more likely to find it that ao3 so#Rumir#The two princes#ttp Amir#ttp Rupert#Frost writes
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