#tremere antitribue

[drmikhailov]

CRINGETOBER 2024 Day 2 - Tsundere

I failed at sleeping lol

[mortifying-macaroni]

Doodle dump of my goth & nerdy Tremere - Gretchen 🖤

[dravencroft]

Some of the main NPCs from the VtM one-shot I GMed for my friends, set in the city of Davenport, Iowa!

Khadija: Sheriff of the local Camarilla court; Ventrue Antitribu

Thiago: Seneschal of the local Camarilla court and Khadija's worst headache; Samedi

Ife: Leader of the local Chantry and BBEG of the story; Tremere

Lenore: Very inexperienced hunter from the Society of Leopold; Redeemer

Hole: Owner of the Watering Hole, a local diner for truckers and bikers; also owner of a big black cat named Shit; Garou (Metis, Ahroun, Fianna)

Abeni: Trucker, regular customer of the Watering Hole and owner of a truck named Betsy; perfectly normal human, thank you very much

[spiritumantophila]

🩸🗡️ And nobody believes you now, you're bleeding magic out! 🗡️🩸

[deathandthesoul]

If it wasn't for his stepdad, Jesse would have been Toreador Antitribu........

[jinxessticktogether]

i just got struck by the idea for a vtm sao crossover au and im-

[vixensdungeon]

The funniest thing about the Tremere in Vampire: The Masquerade is how the writers had to work around them not having a Clan bane.

They have one now, but originally they lacked one because they weren't descended from one of the 3rd generation vampires cursed by Caine, they were instead all bloodbound to the leaders of the Clan. And if they somehow got out of that blood bond, no more weakness! That was just one of those weird things in old World of Darkness.

But later they introduced the Tremere antitribue and of course those can't be bloodbound to the Inner Circle, so they had to get a clan bane to balance things out. Same with the Telyavelic Tremere. And even the mainline Tremere got the weakness of being especially susceptible to blood bonds.

I quite like the V5 clan bane they have and the reasoning behind it, I just think it's funny how they kept having to write around one of the more interesting aspects of the clan for so long.

[eggslamwich]

Been listening to alot of Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines ambient music while I draw, so of course I combined brainrots and made a vtm au for some jjk stuff (ignoring most of 5e because they gentrified my vampire ttrpg 🥲)

Kenjaku is an extremely old Tremere antitribu and has taken the path of biothaumaturgy, thus the brain transplant cursed technique in this universe. Kenny likely doesn’t have a sire and was part of the big Tremere transgression, still working out the kinks on that, but they tend to take on the identity of those whom have resources valuable to their goals and the Sabbat overall, which is why despite being Tremere they’re tolerated amongst the Sabbat.

During their era as Noritoshi Kamo, they created Choso and his brothers through experimenting with blood magic and breeding ghouls in an attempt to create more powerful revenants, but as is the case in canon that didn’t turn out the way they wanted rip. At some point when they took on Kaori’s identity, they made Jin into a ghoul as well, and he blood bonded with them ❤️

Mahito is a shovelhead tzimisce who surpassed her role as canon fodder and proved to be a prodigy among Sabbat fledglings. Kenjaku took interest in them especially and took her under their wing in guiding her through their new life as a vampire, curious to watch her grow in her disciplines. (And totally doesn’t plan on diablerizing them)

At some point Junpei crossed paths with her, and was tricked by her under the promise of making him a vampire too into becoming their ghoul. The stitches are from places she opened up to see the insides, but they kept them for “aesthetics”, and a benefit of being a tzimisce is you can get all the body mods you want without risk of infection. :D

(I mainly based human mahito off @cursedvibes ‘s depiction of her in his fanfic here)

I’m still churning lore ideas in my head to make every thing better tho, I hope to add more to it sometime uwu

[kentuckycaverats]

oc deep dive: delsidhe tsuga

formerly delphine tsuga fujinami

maeghar, thinblood, sired by toreador antitribu

portrait by @hairbrushed

what common/uncommon fear do they have?

her greatest fear (one of the only things she fears, really) is loss of autonomy. as a mortal her abusive bio parents raised her as a sacrificial lamb for baali methuselah petaniqua; upon escaping them she was involuntarily ghouled by a domitor who heavily abused her via auspex and presence; she took her life in an attempt to be free of her domitor, who embraced del to maintain her control; resulting in the expulsion of del's fae mien, who was then imprisoned/tortured/exposed to constant banality at the hands of the sabbat for the better part of a decade; and nearly every encounter with petaniqua throughout the chronicle involved del being on the receiving end of dominate or dementation. her "submit to no one" conviction is the one she most often takes stains against, whoops.

do they have any pet peeves?

cowards and politicians. if you're gonna do something fucked up, at least have the balls to own it and get your hands dirty yourself.

what are 3 items you can find in their bedroom?

a cauldron-shaped ceramic mug that she made for her (tremere) wife, tara. it's used like a vase to display lavender and lilacs.

a tie-dye print hydro dipped sniper rifle, gifted by coterie lasombra benedetta.

an ungodly number of lava lamps.

(visual refs for the vibe of her haven)

what do they notice first in a person?

as a matter of survival: how banal they are. all kindred are banal and all mortals have some degree of banality, but her fae nature makes her particularly sensitive to it. most ventrue, tremere, and lasombra are unbearable to be around but most ravnos, malkavians, and toreador are mild enough.

on a scale of 1-10 how high is their pain tolerance?

somewhere around 7-9. she inherited the toreador antitribu beast and therefore fixation on pain from her sire; and between all the torture she's endured + the chronic pain caused by the dissonance between her changeling and kindred natures, her tolerance is pretty high.

do they go into fight or flight mode (or freeze or fawn) when under pressure?

fight <3 girl who loves craves delights and revels in scenes of carnage.

what animal represents them best?

tasmanian devil! small, ferocious, territorial, fearless.

how would a stranger likely describe them?

insane, unpredictable, bold, self-assured

do they have any hobbies?

pottery, dancing, occult research, breaking and entering or carjacking with ravnos bestie mitra, arson, interior design, tending night-blooming plants, wooing/relentlessly hitting on tara.

tagging @lgbtmi @eric-the-bmo @harbingerofskulls @chiss-ticism !

[badass-at-fandoming]

Hi, you were recommended to me by ryttu3k fir your knowledge of Anatole.

Their is one question from clan novel saga by the Prophet that always confuses me.

"the young wizard’s sire is within the clay.”

A bit of context- he is saying this with two Kindred present, Victoria Ash, and Jeremiah (an obfuscated nosferatu). It is said within Leopold's art studio.

The young wizard is obviously Leopold. It is revealed that he is not a toreador but is the childe of tremere antitribu, Nikolai.

But the sire is in the stone????

There are a few named statues at the art studio. A bozetto of Petrodon, but he's the deceased nosferatu Justicar and Sire of Cock robin and Julio Martinez. There is also a bust of Victoria Ash. Later their is a tower made of gangrel and Hannah (a tremere) fuses with it. But neither are Leopold's sire.

This causes Ms Ash, unaware of Jeremiah or the Justicar bozetto, to think that Anatole is saying Leopold is her childe. He is not. This causes the nosferatu to gain this incorrect info temporarily too.

It does save the day at the end, as Ms Ash walks up to Leopold (and eye of hazimel) and this distracts him long enough to be killed by Ramona.

But, as far as I'm aware, their is no Nikolai sculpture in the book. Cock robin is not a "young wizard" so it can't be about the bozetto.

The only thing I can think of, was that Anatole deliberately lied to cause Leopold to be distracted later in the book and die. But why would the prophet of Gehenna deliberately lie?

What is the answer to "the young wizard’s sire is within the clay.” since I swear there's no Nikolai sculture?

If you can't tell, Anatole is one of my favourite non nosferatu vtm characters of all time.

Hello! Awww, I'm honored to be considered to have insight into Anatole and his Malkavian prophecies. Thanks @ryttu3k! You seem anxious for an answer, @roseate-felidae, so I'll do my best. Honestly, I'd probably need to have read the Clan Novel Saga for a confident answer. Browsing the wiki and the context you've given me are good enough for guesses. In order of most to least likely:

1) Your first instinct is right, Anatole is lying. More accurately, Anatole could be manipulating his report of his vision to achieve a better final outcome. A fun layer to Malkavian visions is the difference between the vision itself and the interpretation of the vision. For example, Anatole used to think his visions were literally God talking to him, but now he's like, nah, just a Kindred power like Potence or Celerity. He could be false reporting what he's seeing or hearing, or only sharing a suggestive portion, like you first guessed.

As why would Anatole lie: well. He and Victoria Ash aren't friends. She manipulated hunters into burning down his Paris haven, with his ghoul Paul inside. She's too powerful and connected to eschew outright, but I wouldn't describe their relationship as "good." At the end of the Saga, Hesha Ruhadze has the Eye from Leopold, and Hesha is on friendly terms with Anatole and his faction, the Mnemosyne. It could be that Anatole foresaw that Ash & the Nos thinking Leopold was Ash's childe would benefit him in the long run. Maybe he foresaw and wanted the happier ending you described. That, or he just wanted to throw a spanner in the works of Victoria's plan and/or general unlife.

Being a Prophet of Gehenna and a Malkavian doesn't preclude Anatole from deceit. He has to lie to humans all the time, remember, about his identity and Kindred status. He lies to his friends, including Beckett, about what's under Jerusalem. Victoria Ash points out the obvious logical flaws in his prison "rehab" program, and he self-deceives that there's nothing wrong. "We're natural liars," as Beckett says.

2) Nickolai is in a stone/clay building. While the location in Leopold's studio jumps the mind to clay sculptures, the Malkavian Cobweb's reach is not limited by immediate geography. From the wiki, I can glean that Nickolai is in his haven in NYC, which is warded with blood sorcery. NYC has stone buildings, or clay might be a ward ingredient. It's probably not a reference to a basement encased in clay-type soil, because NYC's soil is the silt-loam type of dirt (yes, I looked this up). This theory can be disproved with a description of Nickolai's haven, so I kicked it down the list.

3) The young wizard is Aisling. This theory switches the young wizard part of the equation. Malkavian visions are not necessarily about the topic at hand, after all. To a methuselah like Anatole, Aisling Sturbridge is quite young and she's a Tremere. Instead of Leopold as the "young wizard," Anatole could mean Aisling, and the clay part a reference to her sire, Lucien de Maupassant. Lucien disappeared while on a mission from the Inner Council in 1948. "Within the clay" could be any number of hints to his fate, including his ashes mixing with dirt.

4) Nickolai is being controlled by the Eye. This is a biiiiiiig stretch, but whatever. Hazimel used to a stone mason, which is a profession that works clay. Compared to Hazimel, Nickolai is an incredibly young wizard. Nickolai thinks he's manipulating Leopold and the Eye to his own ends, but perhaps Hazimel is working him. Anatole is saying that Nickolai is within Hazimel's thrall, or influence, and Nickolai is being shaped like clay under a mason's hands.

The number of problems this theory has is Many, no matter how much I like it. First off, I don't think the Eye shows full sapient intelligence: it more like, makes its bearers into powerful rage machines, like the Beast. If someone as cool as Hazimel was controlling it, the Eye would be more sophisticated. The theory is also very Lord of the Rings-y with the whole "cursed object wants to return to its master." Vampire: the Masquerade doesn't draw inspiration from Tolkien. Last, the theory falls apart under a Doylist lens. In-universe, sure, Hazimel could know that manipulating Leopold and Nickolai would drop his Eye in Hesha's hands, and Hesha would find the Eye too hot to handle and therefore drop it on Beckett, and Beckett would return it to him. Out of universe, the Clan Novel Saga was published 1999 to 2000 in a hysterical frenzy. The story of the Eye's return appears in Beckett's Diary, which launched its Kickstarter in 2016. Sixteen years is a loooonnnggg time to pay off one line in a previous book. Possibly longer than 16 years, depending on if the story was written after or before the Kickstarter was funded. A meticulous planner could do it, of course, and maybe a nebulous idea of the Eye's return existed in the White Wolf writers' heads, but I am full of doubt. The BJD story itself doesn't call back to Anatole's prophecy either, which weakens the idea further.

The prophecy is a fun puzzle! Thank you for bringing it to me to play with. If any other Clan Novel Saga or Anatole fans want to chime in with their ideas, feel free :D :D :D

[holly-bearie]

*im finally running out of these* only 2 more i think

chandra!!! they're a gurkha on a Mission (not dying again). they went missing (got embraced) during the Anglo-Nepalese war because a Salubri Antitribu wanted a protégé, and now they're hiding out on the East Coast in a cheesy resort city dodging Tremere and tracking low-humanity Kindred

[mortifying-macaroni]

And I've always been ashamed that I wanna Fall into a dream with my honour desecrated Blood is jaded (Spiritbox - Jaded)

[dravencroft]

A quick redraw/redesign of Lazare Téophile, Tremere Antitribu and cunning con artist I played during a Vampire: the Masquerade one-shot session a few years ago. I suddenly missed him so here he is!

[y-rhywbeth2]

My trip to Baldur's Gate: Vampire the Masquerade AUs has haunted me all day.

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The Dead Three aren't going to translate neatly and should probably be split into different characters covering different aspects of the originals. The Clan of Death is the neatest fit for them overall, but they don't all fit. The Giovanni fit Bhaal best (the Endless Night is basically his ideal, then there's the family money, the fucked up family shit). The scholarly bent of the Cappadocians with the aesthetic of the Harbingers of Skull is Myrkul and followers. Myrkul and Bhaal are too tied to death and undeath, if you take them out of here you lose something. Bane, frankly, is Ventrue with a splash of Lasombra; which does take us out of the box and the succession thing. Luckily their antediluvian is dead as hell as far as anyone can tell, so that's free real estate.

Withers is a fragment of Cappadocius; 'retired' and his one church/clan split in three (they might be pawns though god knows who of); mostly forgotten in the modern nights; seems benign on the surface and then you look closer and he's the world's least trustworthy motherfucker. Jergal has never schemed to eat Ao's soul as far as I know, but I sure wouldn't put anything past him.

Failing that he's the Capuchin... assuming those two are so unrelated, although I'm pretty sure the Capuchin is Lazarus.

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Haarlep is hosting the succubus club. I will overlook how much it annoys be that 5e stopped the succubus being strictly tanar'ri for the bit.

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Durge: Extremely low generation Giovanni neonate... or Baali, if you want to go ultimate edgelord. Enjoys the principle of Taboo in their necromancy work too much.

Gale: Has an Oblivion-tainted chunk of Mr 'I Can Totally Eat God's Soul and Replace Him' in his chest, so Cappadocian, I guess. Formerly awakened, but he ignored his avatar when it warned him not to touch The Thing and here we are.

Astarion: World's Worst Tremere Wants Dark Thaumaturgy. So he doesn't have to actually study hermetic mysticism to get the rewards of blood sorcery. And also to be free of the pyramid. Cazador should not be a regent, but alas, he won his certamen against Velioth. And also diablerised him. And made a pact with an Archduke of Hell.

Shadowheart: Setite by faith, Lasombra Abyss Mystic by lineage. Is actually kinfolk to the Children of Gaia, but she neither knows that nor would it help her to know that in any way.

Karlach: Abandoned Gangrel fledgling is taken in by Kind Older Vampire who is Going to Show Her the Ropes and Definitely Not Scheming; This is heart-warming and definitely not going to be tragic. (The horns and tail are permanent frenzy mutations).

Wyll: I got Toreador vibes over here. He's got an insanely high humanity rating, but Mizora's a diabolist and Wyll's caught in the net. Haven't decided whether Mizora or, if I stretch, Ulder is his sire. It's probably Mizora.

Lae'zel: Still thinking on that one, but I do get Sabbat crusader vibes. Ventrue antitribu? I think that fits. She's had heavy modification from a deceased Tzimisce pack mate.

[thesixthplaneteer]

Hi, for the VTM OC Ask Game, I would love to know the following for Harri and Godwynn: 6, 10, 16, 30! Thank you 🙏

Hello! thank you for the ask and sorry it took so long to respond <3

6. What was their relationship to their sire? Were they close in any way or mere strangers? Harri - He was embraced by Ta-Urt, a direct child of Set believing herself to be the goddess of fertility, childbirth, and black magic. She is actively worshipped as a goddess by the Cult of Taweret, a cult within the followers that heavily practices the Path of Ecstasy. Harrakhty was brought in after being able to sneak into her temple and made it as far as the treasure room. At first he was taken as a pet but his deep dive into devotion and acceptance of the cult tenants made Ta-Urt see some potential. She then groomed him for centuries. Convincing him he was Sobek reborn. They were incredibly close with Harri convincing himself he was the favorite of the Goddess and a very unhealthy matronly dynamic that would have made Sigmund Freud blush. She guided and shaped him into the very thing he is today. Godwynn - He was embraced soon after the final battle of the War of Roses. He was injured and in his recovery was unknowingly conversing with the man that would become his sire. Godwynn holds great respect for Walder and they were as close and any packmate and pack leader would be with the knightly fraternity of their mostly Ventrue Antitribue pack but it was very much a commander and soldier relationship. Godwynn preferred it like that. He looked up to Walder and aspired to be every bit of the warrior he was. The only time Godwynn recalls feeling sadness was the night Walder met final death.

10. What is their relationship to that childe if they do have one? Harri - Even as old as he is he has rarely sired with none making it to modern nights. He would find a promising aspirant in the cult and bring them by his side. They would be close, very close, as he guided them through the gates of enlightenment. However at some point he is disappointed by them or his wife decides she let it go on long enough, or they thought they would be able to replace the wife. Ambition seemed to always get in the way of him having a progeny that can last. In modern nights he embraces a ghoul he had for nearly a century. An enforcer/bodyguard type that he has taken strides with to try and make it work out. Godwynn - He has never sired, being far to hard on his ghouls and potential childer. He would build knight and squire type relationships and put them through all imaginable torments to prepare them to become a crusader.

16. How good are they at acting “alive”? Harri - He hangs around mortals enough he can act alive, however he himself is a walking masquerade breach but Obfuscate helps with that. He may be seen as eclectic or quirky but he can act alive. Godwynn - Terrible at it. He only started even using the blush of life in modern nights to appease his Bishop turned Prince. He will do the bare minimum to keep the masquerade, otherwise he makes no effort.

30. Do they have a clan that they do particularly like? Harri - The necromancer clans. Necromancy may hold some secret to bringing Set back so he has always been fond of the clans that now make up Hecata. With the miracles Noa helps him perform in modern nights, they are the top of his like list. Godwynn - Tremere, for all the wrong reasons. He likes the taste of warlock vitae the most and enjoys hunting them. He even developed counter thaumaturgy after a diablerie or two because he enjoys the smug looks faded form their face when they realize their greatest weapon is rendered null. He holds no particle hate for them, they're just fun to hunt. Outside of his own clan he doesn't care at all about the others.

[crownedinmarigolds]

Thank you all SO much, I am overwhelmed! Who belongs to who in both pictures and below the cut!

Magpie - Dykeferatu's Nosferatu OC. I am obsessed, I may've adopted her in my head? I love her so much.

Mina - Arcturus's Tzimisce OC! I think they're just gorgeous... was very stoked to be able to draw them!

Quinn - Tzimizce's Ventrue Antitribu OC! I LOVE VENTRUE ANTIS SO I WAS SO STOKED TO SEE TZIM KNOCK ON MY COMM DOOR. Gonna stick all the VenAnti's in a Medieval Times together soon.

Hunter - 6ut's Tremere OC! I was told he's a Southern boy covered in tats and as a Southern Woman with some tats myself I was very intrigued....

Cassidy - Blood-bound's Tremere OC! I was told he has sad tired eyes and he may be kind of baby boy to me now...

Willow - LGBTMI's Toreador! She's so lovely and has a great aesthetics/reference side blog that really helped!

Linden- Spell-Fox's stunning OC! I love their entire vibe, the patterns, the COLORS.