#tremere antitribue

[drmikhailov]

CRINGETOBER 2024 Day 2 - Tsundere

I failed at sleeping lol

[mortifying-macaroni]

Doodle dump of my goth & nerdy Tremere - Gretchen 🖤

[dravencroft]

Some of the main NPCs from the VtM one-shot I GMed for my friends, set in the city of Davenport, Iowa!

Khadija: Sheriff of the local Camarilla court; Ventrue Antitribu

Thiago: Seneschal of the local Camarilla court and Khadija's worst headache; Samedi

Ife: Leader of the local Chantry and BBEG of the story; Tremere

Lenore: Very inexperienced hunter from the Society of Leopold; Redeemer

Hole: Owner of the Watering Hole, a local diner for truckers and bikers; also owner of a big black cat named Shit; Garou (Metis, Ahroun, Fianna)

Abeni: Trucker, regular customer of the Watering Hole and owner of a truck named Betsy; perfectly normal human, thank you very much

[kavalyera]

tevy realizing she MIGHT be attracted to the 6’8, blind tremere scourge that has perfect hair and is 400 years old:

[spiritumantophila]

🩸🗡️ And nobody believes you now, you're bleeding magic out! 🗡️🩸

[deathandthesoul]

If it wasn't for his stepdad, Jesse would have been Toreador Antitribu........

[jinxessticktogether]

i just got struck by the idea for a vtm sao crossover au and im-

[vixensdungeon]

The funniest thing about the Tremere in Vampire: The Masquerade is how the writers had to work around them not having a Clan bane.

They have one now, but originally they lacked one because they weren't descended from one of the 3rd generation vampires cursed by Caine, they were instead all bloodbound to the leaders of the Clan. And if they somehow got out of that blood bond, no more weakness! That was just one of those weird things in old World of Darkness.

But later they introduced the Tremere antitribue and of course those can't be bloodbound to the Inner Circle, so they had to get a clan bane to balance things out. Same with the Telyavelic Tremere. And even the mainline Tremere got the weakness of being especially susceptible to blood bonds.

I quite like the V5 clan bane they have and the reasoning behind it, I just think it's funny how they kept having to write around one of the more interesting aspects of the clan for so long.

[eggslamwich]

Been listening to alot of Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines ambient music while I draw, so of course I combined brainrots and made a vtm au for some jjk stuff (ignoring most of 5e because they gentrified my vampire ttrpg 🥲)

Kenjaku is an extremely old Tremere antitribu and has taken the path of biothaumaturgy, thus the brain transplant cursed technique in this universe. Kenny likely doesn’t have a sire and was part of the big Tremere transgression, still working out the kinks on that, but they tend to take on the identity of those whom have resources valuable to their goals and the Sabbat overall, which is why despite being Tremere they’re tolerated amongst the Sabbat.

During their era as Noritoshi Kamo, they created Choso and his brothers through experimenting with blood magic and breeding ghouls in an attempt to create more powerful revenants, but as is the case in canon that didn’t turn out the way they wanted rip. At some point when they took on Kaori’s identity, they made Jin into a ghoul as well, and he blood bonded with them ❤️

Mahito is a shovelhead tzimisce who surpassed her role as canon fodder and proved to be a prodigy among Sabbat fledglings. Kenjaku took interest in them especially and took her under their wing in guiding her through their new life as a vampire, curious to watch her grow in her disciplines. (And totally doesn’t plan on diablerizing them)

At some point Junpei crossed paths with her, and was tricked by her under the promise of making him a vampire too into becoming their ghoul. The stitches are from places she opened up to see the insides, but they kept them for “aesthetics”, and a benefit of being a tzimisce is you can get all the body mods you want without risk of infection. :D

(I mainly based human mahito off @cursedvibes ‘s depiction of her in his fanfic here)

I’m still churning lore ideas in my head to make every thing better tho, I hope to add more to it sometime uwu

[kentuckycaverats]

oc deep dive: delsidhe tsuga

formerly delphine tsuga fujinami

maeghar, thinblood, sired by toreador antitribu

portrait by @hairbrushed

what common/uncommon fear do they have?

her greatest fear (one of the only things she fears, really) is loss of autonomy. as a mortal her abusive bio parents raised her as a sacrificial lamb for baali methuselah petaniqua; upon escaping them she was involuntarily ghouled by a domitor who heavily abused her via auspex and presence; she took her life in an attempt to be free of her domitor, who embraced del to maintain her control; resulting in the expulsion of del's fae mien, who was then imprisoned/tortured/exposed to constant banality at the hands of the sabbat for the better part of a decade; and nearly every encounter with petaniqua throughout the chronicle involved del being on the receiving end of dominate or dementation. her "submit to no one" conviction is the one she most often takes stains against, whoops.

do they have any pet peeves?

cowards and politicians. if you're gonna do something fucked up, at least have the balls to own it and get your hands dirty yourself.

what are 3 items you can find in their bedroom?

a cauldron-shaped ceramic mug that she made for her (tremere) wife, tara. it's used like a vase to display lavender and lilacs.

a tie-dye print hydro dipped sniper rifle, gifted by coterie lasombra benedetta.

an ungodly number of lava lamps.

(visual refs for the vibe of her haven)

what do they notice first in a person?

as a matter of survival: how banal they are. all kindred are banal and all mortals have some degree of banality, but her fae nature makes her particularly sensitive to it. most ventrue, tremere, and lasombra are unbearable to be around but most ravnos, malkavians, and toreador are mild enough.

on a scale of 1-10 how high is their pain tolerance?

somewhere around 7-9. she inherited the toreador antitribu beast and therefore fixation on pain from her sire; and between all the torture she's endured + the chronic pain caused by the dissonance between her changeling and kindred natures, her tolerance is pretty high.

do they go into fight or flight mode (or freeze or fawn) when under pressure?

fight <3 girl who loves craves delights and revels in scenes of carnage.

what animal represents them best?

tasmanian devil! small, ferocious, territorial, fearless.

how would a stranger likely describe them?

insane, unpredictable, bold, self-assured

do they have any hobbies?

pottery, dancing, occult research, breaking and entering or carjacking with ravnos bestie mitra, arson, interior design, tending night-blooming plants, wooing/relentlessly hitting on tara.

tagging @lgbtmi @eric-the-bmo @harbingerofskulls @chiss-ticism !

[badass-at-fandoming]

Hi, you were recommended to me by ryttu3k fir your knowledge of Anatole.

Their is one question from clan novel saga by the Prophet that always confuses me.

"the young wizard’s sire is within the clay.”

A bit of context- he is saying this with two Kindred present, Victoria Ash, and Jeremiah (an obfuscated nosferatu). It is said within Leopold's art studio.

The young wizard is obviously Leopold. It is revealed that he is not a toreador but is the childe of tremere antitribu, Nikolai.

But the sire is in the stone????

There are a few named statues at the art studio. A bozetto of Petrodon, but he's the deceased nosferatu Justicar and Sire of Cock robin and Julio Martinez. There is also a bust of Victoria Ash. Later their is a tower made of gangrel and Hannah (a tremere) fuses with it. But neither are Leopold's sire.

This causes Ms Ash, unaware of Jeremiah or the Justicar bozetto, to think that Anatole is saying Leopold is her childe. He is not. This causes the nosferatu to gain this incorrect info temporarily too.

It does save the day at the end, as Ms Ash walks up to Leopold (and eye of hazimel) and this distracts him long enough to be killed by Ramona.

But, as far as I'm aware, their is no Nikolai sculpture in the book. Cock robin is not a "young wizard" so it can't be about the bozetto.

The only thing I can think of, was that Anatole deliberately lied to cause Leopold to be distracted later in the book and die. But why would the prophet of Gehenna deliberately lie?

What is the answer to "the young wizard’s sire is within the clay.” since I swear there's no Nikolai sculture?

If you can't tell, Anatole is one of my favourite non nosferatu vtm characters of all time.

Hello! Awww, I'm honored to be considered to have insight into Anatole and his Malkavian prophecies. Thanks @ryttu3k! You seem anxious for an answer, @roseate-felidae, so I'll do my best. Honestly, I'd probably need to have read the Clan Novel Saga for a confident answer. Browsing the wiki and the context you've given me are good enough for guesses. In order of most to least likely:

1) Your first instinct is right, Anatole is lying. More accurately, Anatole could be manipulating his report of his vision to achieve a better final outcome. A fun layer to Malkavian visions is the difference between the vision itself and the interpretation of the vision. For example, Anatole used to think his visions were literally God talking to him, but now he's like, nah, just a Kindred power like Potence or Celerity. He could be false reporting what he's seeing or hearing, or only sharing a suggestive portion, like you first guessed.

As why would Anatole lie: well. He and Victoria Ash aren't friends. She manipulated hunters into burning down his Paris haven, with his ghoul Paul inside. She's too powerful and connected to eschew outright, but I wouldn't describe their relationship as "good." At the end of the Saga, Hesha Ruhadze has the Eye from Leopold, and Hesha is on friendly terms with Anatole and his faction, the Mnemosyne. It could be that Anatole foresaw that Ash & the Nos thinking Leopold was Ash's childe would benefit him in the long run. Maybe he foresaw and wanted the happier ending you described. That, or he just wanted to throw a spanner in the works of Victoria's plan and/or general unlife.

Being a Prophet of Gehenna and a Malkavian doesn't preclude Anatole from deceit. He has to lie to humans all the time, remember, about his identity and Kindred status. He lies to his friends, including Beckett, about what's under Jerusalem. Victoria Ash points out the obvious logical flaws in his prison "rehab" program, and he self-deceives that there's nothing wrong. "We're natural liars," as Beckett says.

2) Nickolai is in a stone/clay building. While the location in Leopold's studio jumps the mind to clay sculptures, the Malkavian Cobweb's reach is not limited by immediate geography. From the wiki, I can glean that Nickolai is in his haven in NYC, which is warded with blood sorcery. NYC has stone buildings, or clay might be a ward ingredient. It's probably not a reference to a basement encased in clay-type soil, because NYC's soil is the silt-loam type of dirt (yes, I looked this up). This theory can be disproved with a description of Nickolai's haven, so I kicked it down the list.

3) The young wizard is Aisling. This theory switches the young wizard part of the equation. Malkavian visions are not necessarily about the topic at hand, after all. To a methuselah like Anatole, Aisling Sturbridge is quite young and she's a Tremere. Instead of Leopold as the "young wizard," Anatole could mean Aisling, and the clay part a reference to her sire, Lucien de Maupassant. Lucien disappeared while on a mission from the Inner Council in 1948. "Within the clay" could be any number of hints to his fate, including his ashes mixing with dirt.

4) Nickolai is being controlled by the Eye. This is a biiiiiiig stretch, but whatever. Hazimel used to a stone mason, which is a profession that works clay. Compared to Hazimel, Nickolai is an incredibly young wizard. Nickolai thinks he's manipulating Leopold and the Eye to his own ends, but perhaps Hazimel is working him. Anatole is saying that Nickolai is within Hazimel's thrall, or influence, and Nickolai is being shaped like clay under a mason's hands.

The number of problems this theory has is Many, no matter how much I like it. First off, I don't think the Eye shows full sapient intelligence: it more like, makes its bearers into powerful rage machines, like the Beast. If someone as cool as Hazimel was controlling it, the Eye would be more sophisticated. The theory is also very Lord of the Rings-y with the whole "cursed object wants to return to its master." Vampire: the Masquerade doesn't draw inspiration from Tolkien. Last, the theory falls apart under a Doylist lens. In-universe, sure, Hazimel could know that manipulating Leopold and Nickolai would drop his Eye in Hesha's hands, and Hesha would find the Eye too hot to handle and therefore drop it on Beckett, and Beckett would return it to him. Out of universe, the Clan Novel Saga was published 1999 to 2000 in a hysterical frenzy. The story of the Eye's return appears in Beckett's Diary, which launched its Kickstarter in 2016. Sixteen years is a loooonnnggg time to pay off one line in a previous book. Possibly longer than 16 years, depending on if the story was written after or before the Kickstarter was funded. A meticulous planner could do it, of course, and maybe a nebulous idea of the Eye's return existed in the White Wolf writers' heads, but I am full of doubt. The BJD story itself doesn't call back to Anatole's prophecy either, which weakens the idea further.

The prophecy is a fun puzzle! Thank you for bringing it to me to play with. If any other Clan Novel Saga or Anatole fans want to chime in with their ideas, feel free :D :D :D

[mortifying-macaroni]

Finally finished Gretchen's pinup poster :3

[dravencroft]

A quick redraw/redesign of Lazare Téophile, Tremere Antitribu and cunning con artist I played during a Vampire: the Masquerade one-shot session a few years ago. I suddenly missed him so here he is!

[kavalyera]

Did this tier chart thing by girlnextvore :3 Ventrue at the top while Toreador and Tremere are at the bottom is insane work from me but that’s okay I can defend myself. I like Toreador…. bloodlines. Not the clan itself. In love with Toreador Antitribu and Volgirre specifically but the clan itself is too bland for my tastes sorry. Maybe my opinion will change when I manage to get this Capoeira Toreador out of my head and into a oneshot or chronicle but in all honesty, Toreador just doesn’t do it for me

I don’t know why Tremere’s are just not hitting it for me. Just kidding I know why. Banu Haqim blood sorcery better sorry yeah said it right there. Banu Haqim are much more sexier and cooler

I’ve always wanted to play a Nosferatu but dayum I just get kidnapped by other clans before I get to harness my energy to make a character concept😔 maybe if I get into a VTR game that I’ve always been meaning to get into, I’ll finally be able to play a Nosferatu because I already have a concept for her !

Anyways Salubri is quite low because as much as I love Tevy um. I like Salubri Antitribu more

Anyways—Ventrue, Gangrel, and Banu Haqim on top ! !

Bully me for my choices, I know. I play based off of how horribly sexy I can make my character not based off lore. Anyways who wants to invite me to their chronicle so I can play a Tzimisce haha

[gretchen-grim]

𝔄𝔟𝔬𝔲𝔱 𝔪𝔢

If you must know... I am a Tremere Antitribu, a proud thorn at everybody's side since my Embrace in 2004 at the age of 27. By my husband Andrei's side (yes, I kept my maiden name don't pester me about it), I reign over Los Angeles to this very night. I serve myself and the Sabbat; in that order. My thoughts are bathed in vanta black, my meals taste even more scrumptious when they're fueled by agony and the melody that soothes me the most is the symphony of chaos. If you cross me, the most I can do is insult your pitiful existence and block you since I'm nowhere within the desirable range of boiling you alive or draining your blood.

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[holly-bearie]

*im finally running out of these* only 2 more i think

chandra!!! they're a gurkha on a Mission (not dying again). they went missing (got embraced) during the Anglo-Nepalese war because a Salubri Antitribu wanted a protégé, and now they're hiding out on the East Coast in a cheesy resort city dodging Tremere and tracking low-humanity Kindred