#toxic moxiety

[thatonelesbianfander]

Rating Every Single Sanders Sides Ship Because I'm Bored

I'm bored so I'm gonna rate every single Sanders Sides ship

Little disclaimer: I am not including any poly ships for now because i don't want this to be too long. These are just the character x character ships.

Ratings under cutoff.

Demus/Dukeceit (RexJ)- 10/10. Favorite ship of all time. Great dynamic, great characters, love it. I am their #1 fan and defender.

Logince (RoxL)- 9/10. Second favorite Sanders Sides ship. Started shipping it ironically after my Logan and Roman YouTooz plushies arrived together, but now I just like it. It's nice.

Moxiety (PxV)- 6/10. Honestly, my opinion about this one changes every day, sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't care about it, and sometimes I dislike it. The dynamic is very nice, but I honestly just think they're better as friends instead.

Prinxiety (RoxV)- 8/10. A classic, one of the first three that I shipped when entering the fandom. Maybe a little overrated, but still a good one.

Logicality (PxL)- 7/10. Pretty good, one of the first three that I shipped, but was the one I paid the least attention to. Very cute and wholesome dynamic, just didn't catch my eye as much as Prinxiety and Demus/Dukeceit.

Analogical (LxV)- 7/10. Very nice dynamic. Their interaction at the end of My Negative Thinking will always be one of my favorite non-Remus moments. I do care for Logince a little bit more but this is still a very nice one.

Royality RoxP)- 8/10. Once again, very nice, wholesome dynamic. Also, pretty underrated in terms of the core side ships, don't see quite enough love for this one.

Loceit (LxJ)- 6/10. Honestly, I don't really see this one that much while scrolling, but it does have potential and I can see why people would like it. Especially after the orange Logan reveal.

Roceit (RoxL)- 7/10. Toxic yaoi at it's fullest potential. Great angst. Don't care for it as much as Demus/Dukeceit, but it's still great and sometimes I don't mind indulging in it.

Moceit (PxJ)- 7/10. A pretty unpopular ship at first that really started to gain momentum after POF, and I can see why. The dynamic certainly has charm. I am very bias towards Demus/Dukeceit because of my autism latching onto it, but sometimes I don't really mind indulging in it much like with Roceit.

Anxceit (VxJ)- 5/10. Honestly, I kind of see them more as family than as lovers, but that's my own opinion. I don't have any strong feelings towards this ship in either ways. Don't hate it, don't love it, mostly neutral.

Intrulogical (LxRe)- 7/10. Also a pretty unpopular ship at first that started to gain momentum after a singular episode (WTIT). I can see why people would like it. These two would definitely do a bunch of crazy wacky experiments together and cause general mayhem. I honestly see them more as friends, but the ship is great and my main go to for angst with Demus/Dukeceit.

Intruality (RexP)- 7/10. Very underrated and wholesome. I love the dynamic of sweet soft guy and crazy guy together. Do think they would work out better as friends, but I do adore the dynamic either way. The ship is also a little ruined because of a fanfic I once read where Patton (completely out of character) did unspeakable things to Remus, but it didn't really affect my overall view of the dynamic.

Dukexiety (RexV)- 2/10. For some reason, I have an insane hatred of this ship. I have no fucking clue why??? The dynamic is nice, the two have really similar aesthetics to each other, I just don't like it. I think it might be because I got baited with it while I was reading a Demus fic where, out of nowhere, Remus cheated on Janus with Virgil, but I have no fucking clue if that's right, or if I'm misremembering. Still, very nice dynamic though.

RemRom (RexRo)- No. Just no. Get it away from me. Out of all the other ships in this fandom, you choose to ship this, wtf. negative infinity/infinity. Get out of my sight.

Karrot Kings (NxT)- 10/10. One of my favorites. Their dynamic with each other is SO GODDAMN GOOD, I love it. Please let them be canon, C!Thomas needs happiness in his life.

Thomas x any side- 1/10. Gonna group all the Thomas x side ships together because I have the same feelings about them overall. I don't really like any of these ships. I kind of think they're weird since it's basically selfcest. Like, all the Sanders Sides ships (that don't include Nico) are all technically selfcest, but at the same time, they're technically not since the sides are both their own people and a part of Thomas. You can suspend your disbelief for the side x side ships because the sides are all their distinct character with their own thoughts and feelings, but the same thing isn't really possible for the Thomas ships. If I had to pick one to ship for the rest of time, I would probably go with Thomas and Janus since that's the one I see the most for some reason. I don't really know. Pretty good on paper, not really good in practice, overall an improvement over RemRom.

Nico x any side- 3/10. Gonna also group all the Nico x side ships together. I honestly don't see any love for any of the Nico x side ships, which is pretty sad. Their dynamics have so much potential and make a little bit more sense than the Thomas x side ships. They also have a lot of angst potential especially when paired with one sided Karrot Kings. Like, imagine if the person you have feelings for tells you one day that they only love one part of you instead of you as a whole. Fucking brutal. If I had to pick one, I'd say that Roman and Nico, but I do like that more as a family dynamic along with Karrot Kings and Creativitwins found family, so maybe Virgil and Nico would be better? I don't really know. Pretty nice, but Nico does have more of a dynamic with Thomas than with the sides.

[goldenduckie]

I dare you to rank all sanders sides ships on a scale of 1-10. At least, as many as you can think up of.

OOO SOUNDS FUN ANON! Ill try to get as many ships as i can (but not that one, you know which one)

Rankings under cut

btw i used fanlore.org to look for all the ships, so idk if each of the ship names are right

AND THIS IS JUST MY SILLY OPINION! IF YOU DISAGREE THATS ALRIGHT THIS IS JUST WHAT I THINK!

Loceit: 8/10 Really good, love it, love the content of it

Moceit: 50/10 MOCEIT IS MY OTP! MY EVERYTHING, MY ABSLOUTE FAVOURITE SHIP

Dukeceit/Demus: 7/10 Its really good! Lovee their dynamic, its a shame we dont see these guys interact in the show much :(

Roceit: 7/10 Love roceit, so many angst and fluffy opportunities, honestly love the angst

Thomceit: 5/10 Honestly im not enthusiastic about sides x Thomas ships, but they can be pretty sweet! This ones really good, i see the appeal

Anxceit: 9/10 AHGG THEM! Sooo good! As platonic, romantic, familiar, and bitter exes! Love it! So many fun amd angsty posibilites!

Logicality: 7.5/10 Its so adorable!! I loveee logicality fanart and fics! I really loved logicality when i first joined watched the show, so it gets an extra .5 for nostagic sake

Intrulogical: 10/10 like DUDE INTRULOGICAL MAKES ME FERAL! Its so silly and adorable and freaky ahsxhjlsxkjkjhsx

Logince: 9/10 aaa its sooo fun! Their chemistry is SO INCREDIBLE

Lomas: 5/10 Again, not big on thomas and side ships, but this ones pretty cute

Analogical: 10/10 YESSS! YES YES YES! I COULD TALK ABOUT THEM FOREVER! THEY MAKE ME SOO HAPPPPYYY!! ESPECIALLY AS QPPS!! AAAA I LOOOVVEEEE THEMMM SO MUCH!

Intruality: 6/10 I like it! Its growing on me! Has a lot of adorableness

Royality: 6/10 Love it platonic, indifferent to it as romantic, and its just very sweet and seeing content of it makes me smile

Momas: 5/10

Moxiety: 6/10 again, love it familar and platonic, with a father son relationship! Honestly dont like it romantic

Platonic Creativitwins: 9/10 Yes! The twins! I love them just being chaotic siblings, or even on good terms and having being good brothers to eachother

Intrumas: 4/10

Dukexiety: 7/10 I like it a lot!!

Prinxiety: 8/10 its reeaally adorble, honestly love it lots

Analogince (Lo/Ro/Virge): 7/10 cute!

Romas: 5/10

Thomxiety: 5.5/10 this ones pretty cute

Logicalceit (Jan/Lo/Pat): 8/10 Its content is soo sweet

Intruloceit (Jan/Lo/Rem): 9/10 YEAHH I LOVE IT!! MAKES ME FROTH AT THE MOUTH

Roloceit (Jan/Lo/Ro): 7/10 Seems loevly

Analoceit (Jan/Lo/Virge): 9/10 At first i was indifferent to it, but a certain mutual made me see how amazing this ship is

Intrualceit? (Jan/Pat/Rem): 5/10 i think thats the name

Royalceit (Jan/Pat/Ro): 5.5/10 havent seen much of it, but points for that sick name

Moxiceit? (Jan/Pat/Virge): 7/10 ive seen some cute suff with this, i think thats the name

Anxceitmus (Jan/Rem/Virge): 9/10 YESS! AAAAA THESE THREEE MAKE ME SOOOO INSANE!

Anaroceit/Prinxieceit (Jan/Ro/Virge): 8/10 so much potential for a toxic yoai polycule

Intrugicality (Lo/Pat/Rem): 5/10

Morolo/Moralogince (Lo/Pat/Ro): 8/10 SO ADORABLE

Analogicality? (Lo/Pat/Virge): 6/10 i think thats the name

Anaintrulogical? (Lo/Rem/Virge): 6/10 i can see the appeal, i think thats the name

Anaintruality? (Pat/Virge/Rem): 5/10 i think thats the name

Anaroyality? (Virge/Ro/Pat): 5/10 i think thats the name

LAMP/CALM: 9/10 LOOOVEE IT! I DO NOT MAKE ENOUGH CONTENT OF THEM! ITS SO ADORBLE

DLAMP: 7/10

DLAMPR: 8/10 YES! ONE BIG HAPPY POLYCULE! THE BEST KIND OF SHIP

Thanks for the ask anon! Again, all these rankings are just my opinion, please dont fight me

[bumb1e-vee]

I have a Sanders Sides oneshot request. (This is under the assumption that the king creativity headcanon is canon and it contains unsympathetic!Patton) Ok so, basically, the king was really good friends before the split and after the split the twins are on good terms with each other and all the dark sides but Roman needs to hide this from Patton and the dark sides help him and Virgil only joins the lights to keep an eye on him, can I get a oneshot were Patton finds out about all this and isn't happy with it?

He was trying to find the good creativity, but he couldn't, and that was years ago, now he was listening to Logan and Virgil whispering to each other

"We need to keep him safe from Patton Virgil" "I can distract him, god knows the man likes to baby me" "Good understood"

Logan then left to go help Roman visit his brother, Virgil went to go see Patton. The moral side was waiting for Virgil, if he wanted to play dirty, well Patton could too.

"Hey there kiddo! I think we should take our realtionship to the next level! Dating" Virgil was taken aback but needed to keep him distracted, "Yeah, okay Patt" Patton smiled and pulled Virgil down on the couch tightly in his arms, "Now tell me where Roman is and you'll get to leave my arms tonight, if not, I'll make you scream in more ways then one" The threat was hissed into his ear while Patton squeezed him tighter.

Meanwhile Roman and Remus were having a water gun fight, it was great, the two were laughing so hard while Logan and Janus 'supervised'. They all were having fun and enjoying themselves, though the fun had to come to an end when the three hour timer went off. Roman and Logan returned to the light side to see Virgil in Patton's lap with an increasing number of hickys on his neck.

"Welcome back Kiddos!" Patton greeted in a dark voice. "So, I know you've been seeing your brother Roman, Virgil refused to spill where you were, so now he's my little pet, you can keep seeing him and I'll just keep Virgil like this forever, I am very dissapointed in all of my kiddos, so for lying to me, you'll have to do all the dishes, and well a few hours without your phones, so no talking to your dark side friends, just know I'm doing this because I love you"

[anxiouslyfred]

Selling a Soulmate

Completely Inspired by this post from @writing-prompt-s and @chaos-by-all-means

Pattons sells Virgil’s soul to a demon, that demon and their soulmate are extremely angry when they don’t find Patton while following the soul connection. Virgil just got 2 new demonic soulmates of Deceit and Remus

/\/\/\/\/\

Patton thought it was all for the best, after all Virgil constantly made jokes about wanting to die, or just going to hell for more continuous torture as if that’s all he had in life. They’d been soulmates for years and he still couldn’t get Virgil to stop.

So he was selling a soul to a demon, for the chance to look after his family and friends, to actually be the perfect dad friend to them all and make them feel better, face the struggles of the world down and keep standing too. If that meant Virgil actually would be destined for hell now, well those jokes always did seem to serious to Patton.

Deceit and Remus had always known that soulmates had some ownership over each others souls, and could in fact bargain each others souls when making deals. No demon had ever heard of that actually happening.

Then they followed the soul link that came from Deceit’s deal with the human Patton to find someone neither had seen ever before.

“You’re definitely Patton.” Deceit was glaring between the strand of connection and the man, curled on his bed in a hoodie and clutching a letter.

“Apparently so, given his letter is only saying that all those jokes I make about going to hell can come true as I wished. Who the fuck actually wishes something like that and what the hell does he mean? If it’s a break up letter then that’s one hell of away to tell your fucking soulmate they’re dumped.” The man barely even looks up, tears brimming even as he glares at the page.

“Soulmates? I mean I do some twisted things with the souls I get from deals but that’s dark.” Remus comments quietly, knowing his pairing with Deceit is unusual since most demons ignore any compulsions to their soulmates and that he technically shouldn’t even be there.

Deceit just moves closer to the bed. “What’s your name, Patton’s soulmate?”

“If he didn’t tell you when he invited you in that’s even more stupid. I’m Virgil but whatever.” Virgil does glance up at the two people, barely taking any of their appearance in before turning to grab a robot plush toy. “Logan always used to warn that Patton only understood his brand of puns and would take my dark jokes too seriously after a while. Who are you?”

Deceit turns to share a heavy look with Remus, deciding if the words they want to say will be echoed but Remus is already moving to take the letter from Virgil’s hands.

“We’re your new soulmates, Remus and Deceit. Not sure what nonsense Patton’s been writing but it’s this weird rare quirk thing that can happen.” The explanation makes no sense, a lot of the things Remus starts without thinking through don’t really, but at least this time he’s on the same page as Deceit.

“In a manner of speaking at least, we are indeed your new soulmates. I was hoping to be able to take you out this evening, but if you need time to process what ever Patton wrote to you we understand.” Deceit’s words are smooth, offering but not demanding and they’re only hoping the rage that’s going through them isn’t showing in their eyes.

Virgil had looked to Deceit as Remus moved and while part of him wanted to believe them and relax, he could see fury waiting to burst out of Remus, especially as he read the letter, and there were small echoes of anger in the one called Deceit too. “You wouldn’t be angry if some weird quirk had given you a new soulmate. Why should I trust you when I can still only feel the connection to Patton?”

The mention of his anger is enough to set Remus off, unleashing a hundred attacks to the walls, windows and door to the room, form shifting as his fury is too much to remain consistently human now it’s being released. Deceit had made to intervene then, but all they could do was stay on the bed and keep Virgil there too.

Virgil is shying away from them both at the change, recognising Remus as so many creatures he’d read conspiracies about over the years, and wishing he’d never spoken. He doesn’t feel at threat, but he feels terrified.

Four hours ago he had woken up to Patton’s clothes emptied from the cupboards and a letter that left him feeling like the world was ending, like the anxiety Patton had insisted countless times wouldn’t change his love had driven his soulmate away finally. He’d felt confused and heartbroken.

Half an hour ago Patton had called him, laughing and making puns all around wishes coming true. Virgil hadn’t understood why or how someone could call his self-deprecating jokes wishes anymore then than he had while reading the letter, but knew Logan had said something about it before. The mention that Virgil should expect a guest had only confused him more.

Now there were two beings, basically strangers, trying to claim they were his new soulmates and destroying the room. Nothing felt safe and everything seemed likely to kill him or suck out his soul and leave his body just a husk. He wanted to fight and scream but couldn’t move, couldn’t breathe, could barely think as one stranger tried to shield him on the bed while the other raged.

A whimper breaking through Virgil’s lips finally calmed the storm. Remus flipping on a dime, from raging to comforting, but keeping his distance now. “Darling, if you’ll have us, we will be your new soulmates, far better than Patton ever was.”

“But you’re demons.” Virgil can only assume both of them are demons, despite Deceit still looking completely human. Why else would they be talking for each other?

Deceit just nods, wanting to twist words but knowing that blunt honesty would help them more in this moment. “And I had your soul sold to me. Technically, if I wanted I could easily make it truth when Remus says you’re now our soulmate, and given that I cannot believe even the most selfish person would do what Patton has done, I’m sorely tempted to.”

“That’s what he meant by my jokes about going to hell being wishes that come true?” More tears and pain hit Virgil then as he realises that not only had Patton broken up with him, he’d literally sold him, and whatever was brought couldn’t be equal to what Virgil had thought they had.

The creature, whatever he was now was leaning over to Virgil, a limb he didn’t want to identify wiping the tears away before they fell. “Let us court you Sweet thing. We’ll be your soulmates now.”

Virgil’s life and his room were suddenly in shambles where the day before he’d thought things could be improving. He’d been abandoned and learnt that abandonment included getting sold. He’d already spent the day crying but here were two beings, two demons who while they definitely had violent reactions showed no chance of them being directed at him. 

Nothing seemed real and everything seemed doomed and Virgil could almost hear Logan telling him not to make life changing decisions when emotionally compromised but his friend wasn’t there then. His friend had been unable to comfort him when Virgil had called up to ask for help after first reading the letter.

Looking at Deceit,still kneeling on the bed and looking at Remus, slowly regaining a more humanoid form, Virgil nodded. “Okay, yes, if - if that’s - if you actually mean it when you say you want me as a soulmate despite being such a fuck up even Patton couldn’t stay with me, you can do that, just let me keep Logan, let me keep whatever friends won’t expect me to be around someone who sold me.”

“Come here, Raindrop. I’ll make you ours now.” Deceit just nods, gathering Virgil into their arms while bringing their powers to the surface. Changing the binds of soulmates could be difficult, but Virgil’s was already weakened, first by Patton using it to sell a soul that wasn’t his and now by Virgil’s own honest agreement. Their eyes beaming golden yellow and the scales shining through their form were all the outward signs that anything changed, but Virgil gasping as the connection changed from one of a brought soul to a soulmate was warming.

Deceit has accepted a deal for ‘a soul’ precisely once, and he got a new soulmate from it. Ever since then Remus and they have been precise in wording every deal for the persons specific soul. If someone wants to sell their soulmate then they’ll have to find a different demon.

[dysfunctionalbundle]

First Step of the Save Virgil From Evil Patton Plan

this is something i wrote for @nachosforfree ‘s personality switch au!

warnings: mentions of unsympathetic patton, references to toxic/abusive moxiety, references to manipulation/gaslighting, references to emotional abuse, and two curse words (let me know if i need to add more!)

word count: 671 words

After the time Virgil helped Logan with his hair color changing potion, Logan began to notice things. He took note of all the times Patton shut Virgil down. He took note of all the times Patton got mad at Virgil for forgetting things. He took note of all the times Patton called Virgil’s interests dumb and childish. He took note of all the times Virgil said “I love you” and Patton not even responding.

The number was ridiculously high and Logan worried about his friend. Whatever claims Virgil made that Patton did indeed love and care for him were heavily contradicted by the data he collected. And the other concerning things Virgil said about his relationship with Patton.The situation was dire. Who knows what other shit Patton pulled behind closed doors, but Logan suspected it wasn’t anything good for Virgil. 

He needed to tell someone. He couldn’t do this alone. He already tried and that ended up with Virgil withdrawing from Logan and denying any explanations that Patton’s actions were toxic. So he was going to recruit help.

“Reeeeemuuuus!” he called while frantically waving around his data sheets. “Remus! Remus! Remus!” He ran to Remus’ room, slammed the door open and close, and made his way towards Remus. 

Logan noticed that Remus was working on something probably important but Virgil’s safety and health were definitely more important at the moment. Remus can get angry about being interrupted later. They needed to help Virgil now. So obviously, first step of the Save Virgil From Evil Patton Plan was to annoy Remus, his specialty.

“Remus, I have something important to tell you! Remus! Remus! Remus! Pay attention to meeeeee! Remus! Remus! Reeeeeeeemuuuuuuuus! Re-” 

“What is it now?”

“Oh um.” Oh shit what was he here for again. 

Remus gave Logan an exasperated look. “You forgot again?”

“Ye- No! Virgil!” Logan practically slapped the sheets of data on Remus’ face (“Hey!”). “We have to help him!”

“What’s this?” Remus raised an eyebrow at Logan.

“Data! Virgil said that Patton cared about him even after I told him that Patton’s behaviors were toxic, so I started to collect data to prove him wrong! Data doesn’t lie if interpreted right and I'm sure I interpreted it correctly and it contradicts what Virgil said an-”

“Slow down and breathe.” Logan took a gasp of air. “What do you mean contradicts? And toxic behaviors?”

“I mean that Patton and Virgil’s relationship is toxic! I have proof! Look at this! This is all the times Virgil said I love you and this is how Patton responded. Look! He ignores Virgil most of the time! And this one! This one shows all the things Virgil does for Patton and this is how many times Patton does the same. It’s-”

“He doesn’t reciprocate.” 

“Exactly!

Remus leafed through more of Logan’s data sheets. “And you said that Virgil claimed that Patton loved him?”

“Mhm. Clearly that’s not true! I took extended notes about both of their behaviors. I know what I’m talking about!”

“Yes, I can tell. I’m guessing you’re here to ask for help?”

“Yes! I can’t do this alone! Virgil might listen to me now with evidence, but I’m worried that Patton won’t let him go! Or, or, or that Virgil will stay because Patton will say he’d kill himself and he-”

“Hold on, Patton did what now?”

“Virgil told me that Patton has said he’d kill himself if Virgil wasn’t there…”

Remus took a breath in through his nose and stood up.

“Where are you going?” Logan asked with his head tilted to the side.

“To find Patton and Virgil. We need to have a chat.” He looked back at Logan. “Aren’t you coming?”

“Oh yes!” Logan gathered up his data sheets again. “You think Virgil might listen to me? Or Patton?”

“I don’t know.”

Logan frowned slightly. “Hm, well I guess we will find out soon.”

“That we will.”

The pair left Remus’ room to go find Patton and Virgil. Who knows what they were going to find.

[nachosforfree]

PS Virgil helping Logan out with his experiments and Logan comforting him after he accidentally spills some of The Tea about patton

It wasn't often that a side other than Remus helped Logan with his experiments at all, so when Virgil walked in and asked if Logan needed any help, Logan jumped at the offer.

"Oh absolutely!" Logan clapped his hands together in excitement, before conjuring some goggles and giving them to Virgil.

Virgil took them and put them on, walking over to the table Logan stood at, "What are you working on?"

"I'm designing a special 'potion' that allows you to change any part of your hair color at will! Remus was complaining about his hair earlier so I wanted to make him it!"

"Aw, well, that's sweet..." Virgil looked at the list of ingredients Logan needed, even though he was unable to tell what any of the large words meant.

"You seem sad."

Virgil blinked and looked up at Logan, "What?"

Logan tilted his head, "When I talked about me making Remus the potion, you seemed sad."

"Oh! Oh, I'm not sad," Virgil assured the other, "I just..." He looked down at the liquid filled cups, "I wish Patton would do stuff like this for me sometimes..."

"You wish Patton would make you potions?"

"No, that isn't what I meant," Virgil ruffled his own hair, "Gosh, words are tough. Uh, I mean I wish that he would, like... Just do something for me."

"Does he not do stuff for you?" Logan asked, "Me and Remus do stuff for each other all the time! I make him stuff, he writes me gross stories to read, I give him ideas, we do a ton for each other!"

"Well..." Virgil picked up the list and played with the edges of the paper, "I do stuff for him. He just...doesn't care enough to do any in return."

At Logan's angry expression, Virgil quickly added, "It isn't that he doesn't care about me! He just...has trouble getting the energy to do things. He's really depressed, y'know..."

"That doesn't mean he should make an effort to make you happy!" Logan poured two of the cups into a larger cup, "Remus doesn't care about much at all either but he still does his best to be there for me!"

"It doesn't really matter," Virgil said, "He makes me happy even if he doesn't do stuff for me!"

"Does he really?"

The words caught Virgil off guard, and he looked over at Logan again. The other side had a more serious expression than Virgil thought he'd ever seen on him.

"I... He...of course he does..." Virgil couldn't keep the eye contact with Logan, something about the look filled him with shame. Maybe that was his own anxiety. "I...I love him, and he loves me."

Logan looked sad, and he reached over to put a hand on Virgil's shoulder, taking notice as the other flinched, "Does he?"

Virgil sniffed quietly, pushing his own goggles up as he wiped at his eyes, which suddenly had tears in them. Why was he crying? He was so stupid to be crying. He was stupid to doubt Patton's love. He was stupid to tell Logan, or to help Logan with this in the first place. He should've just stayed in his room or stayed with Patton.

He hiccuped through tears and Logan's arms were around him, holding him close and gently. Virgil buried his face into the other's shoulder, unable to force back his tears now.

Patton loved him, he told himself. Patton loved him.

[softlysugar]

I love toxic prinxiety and I love toxic moxiety, so why not combined them?

Virgil being in a relationship with both but they are separate and kept secret so the other won't find out. Then Virgil's manipulative trash to both Patton and Roman to the point where when they find out the other is dating Virgil to, they blame the other and not Virgil. Both stop being friends which Virgil is happy about, as keeps manipulating and staying with the both of them and blaming the other when he gets caught

[kys0g0i]

Everytime I listen to Heart of Stone (from Six), all I can think of is either Logan or Virgil singing this to (an unsympathetic) Patton and it’s currently the only thing keeping me sane

[imtryingthisout]

Of Frogs and Friendship

[based on @nachosforfree Au @sanderssides-magicalgirlau check them out]

[Warnings: abuse, toxic relationship, unsympathetic Patton. Be careful]

It was hard not to love him.

Maybe that’s why it was so hard, because despite everything, Virgil just couldn't help but love him. The way Patton had looked at him, eyes so wide and vulnerable, tear laced whispers about how ‘you stayed’ and ‘I don't want to be a monster’. It was like they were kids again, and virgil had just hissed at some of the bigger boys who were picking on them. Calling Patton a crybaby, saying that he was too weak and girly. As if being feminine was something to be ashamed of, something lesser.

(Virgil knew better than that, even at six. His mom could drop kick any guy, any day, in any outfit. She was awesome like that.)

Patton didn't have many friends, was odd cause he was so happy and smiley all the time, but who was Virgil to judge. Not like he had many friends either. Or any friends really.

(No Andy didn't count, he was a baby)

Patton seemed so amazed, looking at Virgil with stars in his eyes, like he was a hero. So Virgil didn’t exactly offer his friendship (stammering and clamming up after the initial adrenaline rush faded) but he didn’t turn Pat away when he started to eat lunch with him. And when Patton wanted to hang out after school he didn’t say no.

So two lonely boys became friends, and they were happy.

Later they added a golden eyed (seemingly) girl into their fold. Miss “Call me Dee” Lyr was a wonderful oddity, who favored short hair and bowler hats, loved courtroom dramas and had a special knack for arguing with Teachers. Especially Mr. Yanez who taught Social studies.

She would constantly interrupt class, hopping on a soapbox and go off on tangents about the nature of society, governmental lies and propaganda. No manner of punishment seem to deter her, any reprimand seemed to just fuel her rants further. And while Mr. Yanez tried desperately to find some way to deter her- Virgil just thought he didn't like seeming dumber than a little girl. He was right.

“Sir, did you know that if a frog was suddenly put in a pot of boiling water it would try to leap out. But if you put a frog in a pot of tepid water and then slowly start to boil it, the frog wouldn’t notice and be slowly boiled to death. Imagine thinking you’re taking a nice relaxing bath, never knowing your inaction is sealing your fate. So while you and others lay comfy in your tubs, unaware that your rights are slowly being eroded away by those in power.”

“Miss Lyr will you please sit down. We are going over European Geography- what are you even talking about?”

(Falling in love with Patton was so easy Virgil didn't even notice it. Didn't notice the water rising and rising all around him. It was just felt so natural to have him around.)

Talking with Patton sometimes made Virgil’s head feel like it was under water. His words drowned out all the other noises in the world, till he was lost in a sea of static and siren song. It didn’t happen a lot, never at first, but by the time Virgil was nine he had periods of just.. blacking out.

(“Do you think I made him this way with evil intent? No! It started with me making him feel happy when he was sad! Me pulling him out of panic attacks! It started with me making him forget bad things-)

(The temperature was changing, ever so slowly, yet the frog remained oblivious-)

(“It just got worse and worse and worse-”)

He never told his Mom about the blackouts, he had meant to- he was sure he had meant to- but he just.. Forgot. He suspected she found out anyway. Taking him to the doctor and doing all manner of checkups and screenings that young Virgil didn’t have the vocabulary to describe.

In the end he got a temporary medication that did nothing to help, and a slightly clingy Patton to deal with.

Nothing he couldn’t handle.

(The trick is to have patience, heat the water up too quickly and the Frog jumps out. Go slowly enough- kindly enough- and he’ll gladly let you burn him to the ground. He might even thank you for it)

“You know Verge, you would look really cute in purple”

“You really think so pat?”

“Ooh we should get matching bracelets- so everyone will know we’re best friends!”

“That sounds like a good idea pat”

“Hey Virgil what if your costume had a ribbon around your neck?”

“Really- like a bow and everything?”

“Yep! Wouldn’t that just be so pretty?”

“If you say so pat”

“Come on, just try it?”

“Of course pat. You’d know I’d do anything for you”

The first time Patton hit him Virgil blamed stress. Stress and trauma. Patton was just lashing out- he didn’t know any better. He just needed to get it out of his system and he’d be fine. Virgil was strong, Virgil could take it. He later held Virgil and apologized, begging him to stay, promising to do better. And Virgil looked into his teary eyes and couldn’t help but still love him.

(Virgil had a vague awareness that Patton wanted more from him. Wanted things that Virgil couldn’t give him. Patton was his best friend- his brother- and he didn’t want to kiss his brother on the mouth. Didn’t want to hold his hand in anything but a platonic fashion. (Virgil didn’t even know if he liked anyone like that, but he most certainly knew he didn’t want Patton like that). But Virgil was unaware of Patton pushing his boundaries, clinging to him more, getting more and more touchy-feely till it was hard for the others to tell if they were flirting or not. (Patton was, Virgil definitely wasn’t).

What was it Dee said about frogs and water? )

The second time Patton hit him Virgil blamed his friends. Things were going fine, Patton was listing to him- waning off some of his more.. extreme schemes. But something had happened, some plans had fallen through due to their involvement, and Patton didn’t even know it was Virgil who grabbed his shoulder, wanting to offer comfort. He just lashed out blindly- striking Virgil in the eye.

(Some days Virgil couldn’t get out of bed. Too overwhelmed, yet too drained to force himself up.

He’d stopped talking after a while, none of his other ‘housemates’ wanted anything to do with him, and he’d just repeat back what Patton wanted to hear on the occasion that he did want to talk. To be honest Virgil couldn’t tell if he was speaking in his own voice.

So he laid there, quietly hoping everything was just one long horrible dream.)

Patton loved touching his neck, playing with his hair. Sometimes when he thought virgil was asleep he would trace along the bruises blooming on his throat- feather light touches as he would whisper sweet poisoned nothings into his ear.

(Some days it felt as though Virgil was empty inside. Just a hollow husk shambaling around in the vague approximation of how a normal human function. He stopped having blackouts, but his memory worsened. The world around him seems grey and hopeless without Patton. The only clear memories were the ones with him in it.)

Virgil eventually stopped counting the strikes. Stopped blaming anyone but himself, it was his fault he knew, no point trying to deny it. Even in his own mind. He just wished he knew what to do to fix himself- what to do to make Pat happy again. Maybe he should just---

(It was like he was in a tub of lukewarm water, but instead of getting hotter. It just got colder and colder, till his hands and feet where blue and shivering. Till the piercing white numbness grew in his chest like a tumor. Hypothermia seeping into his bones. The water was freezing over and Virgil was drowning in blue. But he was too tired to get up. Too numb to fight it. He was the frog and it was hibernation. So he

just

gave

in )

[unsympathetic-patton]

Patton was a fun person. At least, that's what everyone told Virgil when he asked them about the bright eyed blond.

"He's just such a fun person!"

"Oh he's a pretty fun person to be around!"

"Just an all around fun person you should totally try hangin' with sometime."

Virgil was told it'd be good to make friends, so he starts befriending Patton. Patton loves to host fun dinner parties. He does it all the time.

Virgil thinks half the school must come to those parties. They are always smiling. Virgil doesn't go to the parties - it's to many people for his tastes.

Everyone is always smiling. Virgil doesn't really know why Patton is called a "fun person" beyond the fact that he hosts parties. Patton is always smiling.

Lately he's noticed that somethings... off about Patton. He always looks just a little... wrong. His smile to sharp, his eyes to buglike. And he doesn't think he's ever seen Patton frown.

Patton has never asked for his name. Virgil found that odd. But then again; everyone st the school insisted on going by code names rather then there own. He wasn't even sure Patton was really the others name.

"Hey Storm, can I have your name?"

He held his hand out to shake, as if this were a deal and not a simple name exchange.

"Sure, it's Virgil."

Patton stopped feeling off to him. Patton was just right. Whatever to the left he had been, vanished.

Virgil went to the next party. Patton's house is surrounded by mushrooms.

Virgil thinks Patton is just such a fun guy! He's a pretty fun dude, always smilin' and dancin'.

[glqwberries]

Crawling back to you

[non-binary-nightmare]

No laughing

Soapwashing idea was all due to @unsympathetic-patton 's post about Patton washing out people's mouth.

Warnings: Toxic!Moxiety, abusive relationship, unsympathetic!Patton, forced self harm, mentions of blood.

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Virgil, Logan, Deceit, and Roman were in the living room having a decent conversation. Logan talking about different topics that Roman didn't entirely understand. Every now and then the conversation would switch to something about Disney or musicals. Remember how I said Virgil was apart of the conversation? Well, he was there, in the middle of it. Not really joining in on the conversation. Roman took notice on this when Virgil didn't join in on the Disney talk. He always does. He always points out the bad qualities of the Disney movie they were talking about. But nothing..

To Logan, Virgil looked spaced out. Logan thought this was quite rude. Though he didn't want to say anything because he didn't want Virgil to feel called out.

Deceit honestly didn't seem to noticed. He might've said something to Virgil to help him join the conversation but when Virgil ignored him, he thought it was just because of their love-hate relationship. So he ignored it.

"Virgil? Are you okay?" Roman asked, more concern in his voice than wished. Virgil seemed to leave his mind and enter reality again. "Yeah, I'm fine."

"Can you tell us what we were talking about then?" Deceit asked. "Probably something about Disney. I don't know." Logan looked at Deceit. Then at Virgil. "Virgil? I understand if you are tired or don't want to have a conversation with us." Logan said. Virgil's eyes widened. "What?! No! I'm fine with having a conversation with you guys." Roman smiled slightly. "Great! Then I would like to know your opinion on something!" Roman said. "Shoot."

"Do you think Logan is mean?" At hearing this, Logan scoffed. "Of course you have to ask him. I am not mean! I just have a more logical perspective towards life."

"Well you don't have to state your opinions all the time!! You ruin all the fun!" Roman whined. They went back and forth for a bit. Deceit jumping in every now and then. Virgil smiled at their bickering. It was really funny because if they just pointed out one thing, then the whole argument would be over. Virgil thought to himself and laughed lightly. Deceit made a joke about Roman and Logan's argument and Virgil laughed a little more. A little harder this time. A little louder. Then out of nowhere, he stopped. He stood up, about to walk to his room. Tears started forming at his eyes and he dropped to his knees. "I'm sorry! I didn't mean to!!"

"Virgil?" Roman said, getting up and moving over to him.

"I'm sorry! I didn't mean to laugh! I don't want to be punished! Don't tell Patton! Please!" Virgil pleaded. Deceit walked up to Virgil and hugged him. "It's okay Virgil. You'll be okay. Your safe." Virgil leaned into the hug, crying more, continuing to apologize. "Virgil? What did he do to you?" Logan asked. Virgil sniffed and turned to Logan. "He- He doesn't like my laugh. That's the main rule he has.. And- and I broke it.."

"What does he do if you break one of his rules?" Logan asked. "If I laugh or swear, then he washes my mouth out with soap." Logan sighed. Virgil started crying again and pushed his face into Deceit's chest. Deceit began running his fingers through Virgil hair, rocking him back and forth, trying to calm him down. "Don't tell- don't tell Patton.. Please.." Virgil pleaded. "How long has this been going on?" Roman asked. "A few months after we got together. It wasn't bad- it wasn't bad in the beginning. But it- but it got worse."

"Hey guys I-" Patton came running down the stairs. "What happened?" Everyone was silent. "Virgil had a panic attack." Deceit said. "Oh. Well, I can handle it from here, Kiddos!" Patton said. Deceit was hesitant but Logan nodded and Deceit let go of Virgil, letting Patton hold him. Patton started rubbing circles around his back. Then, he whispered something in Virgil's ear. The others couldn't hear it, but thankfully, I'm writing this story so I know what he said. He said: "You better stand up and go to my room. I'll meet you there." Virgil heard him loud and clear. "All better?" Patton asked, putting on his facade once again. Virgil nodded and stood up. "I think I'm just going to go lay down." Patton smiled. "Okay, Love. Sleep tight." Patton kissed Virgil's forehead. Virgil went up the stairs and went to Patton's room. Patton turned to the others. "Do you know what caused the attack?" Patton asked. They all shook their head no. "Oh. Well did he say anything?" Patton asked. "No Patton he didn't say anything. Do you have any idea why that would happen?" Logan asked, fixing his glasses. "Nope. Has someone already checked on Thomas? To make sure he is okay?" Roman shook his head. "No but I will." He sunk out. Patton started going back up the stairs. "Where are you going?" Deceit asked. "To my room. Do you need something?" Deceit shook his head and looked at the ground. "What about you, Logan?"

Patton left to his room and Virgil was sitting on his bed, waiting for what was going to happen next. "Virgil, what happened?" Patton asked, closing the door. "I-I laughed."

"We can deal with that later, then what happened?"

"I started apologizing and had an attack and Logan started asking questions."

"What kind of questions?" Patton asked,getting closer to Virgil. "He asked me why I was apologizing and what you did to me."

"And what did you tell them?" Patton asked through gritted teeth.

"I told them- I told them that you washed my mouth out with soap for laughing and swearing." Patton grabbed Virgil's hair. "Now, I'm going to punish you for three things, telling them, laughing, and talking to Deceit. Got it?" Virgil nodded as much as he could. Patton pulled his head back. "Use your words."

"Ye-yes. I understand." Patton dragged Virgil by his hair and into the bathroom. Patton grabbed the soap and put it under some water. Virgil tried to pull himself away. "Stop struggling. It'll only make it worse." Patton shoved Virgil head back and opend his mouth, shoving the soap in his mouth. He began moving it around and rubbing it all over Virgil's tounge. The soap began foaming and once there was a large amount, Patton took the bar out. "That's for laughing. Besides, they won't mind that I do that because now that they've heard it, they know how bad it is. That's what I was trying to keep from happening. Them finding out and you getting humiliated. I was only trying to protect you." Patton dragged Virgil into the room. Virgil started spitting the soap out of his mouth. "Are you spitting on my carpet?! Now I have another thing to punished you for!" Patton shoved Virgil on the ground. "Why did you tell them?!"

"I-I don't know. I-" Patton slapped Virgil. Hard. "Not good enough!! Why did you tell them? Do you not love me anymore??!! Am I not good enough for you?!"

"N-no Patton!! I do love you!"

Another slap.

"You haven't shown it lately! I have only a few rules and you disobey the most important ones!!!" Patton slapped Virgil again.

"I-I'm sorry!"

"You will be. Now, why were you talk to Deceit?"

"I- He was there and I-"

"I don't care if he was there!! You could've gotten hurt, Kiddo! Do you want to get hurt?"

"Well n-"

"Because it seems like you want to get hurt. Since you want to get hurt so badly then, here." Patton handed Virgil a knife. "Make a cut on your arm." Virgil shakily took the knife and put it near is arm. "Do you need help? Here." Patton took Virgil's hand in his and led Virgil's hand to his arm. "Now push down." Patton let go and Virgil hovered the blade over his arm slightly, not wanting to do it. "I-I don't want to do it."

"Do you not love me anymore?!"

"I do! I do!"

"Then do it." Virgil nodded and put the tip of the blade on his skin. He looked away and gently pushed down, piercing his skin. Blood slowly started coming out of the cut. "Look at it. Don't look away. You need to look at what you've done." Virgil slowly looked at the cut, blood bright red and slowly dripping out from the cut made. Virgil's eyes started forming tears. "Now, what have we learned not to do?

"Don't-don't laugh, don't tell the others and don't talk- and don't talk to Deceit." Virgil said shakily. Patton slapped Virgil, hard. "Don't talk to ANY of the dark sides! Not just Deceit." Patton spoke sternly. "Oh-okay." Patton layed down on his bed. "Good. Now, go clean yourself up and come lay with me."

"Okay."

~Hope you enjoyed!!! Please let me know about any mistakes!! That would be much appreciated!~

[softlysugar]

Does anyone have any toxic prinxeity or moxiety with toxic Virgil ideas,,, or just any unsympathetic Virgil ideas,,, you don't have to send or say any,, just wondering,,

[unsympathetic-patton]

Whoops, posted on the wrong blog!

After a lot of heavy debate and thought, Thomas decides to go to Therapy and Psychiatry. After a couple sessions, he's prescribed an anxiety medication to help deal with it.

This actually has very positive affects on Virgil, who finally feels more relaxed and able to express himself better. He becomes happier with the medication.

However, Patton is adamant that the meds should not be a good things for Virgil. He continuously advocates against them and for stopping them, however he isn't listened to.

So he decides to repress Virgil and blame it on the meds.

[imtryingthisout]

Letters Written, Never Sent

[based on @nachosforfree Au @sanderssides-magicalgirlau check them out]

[warnings: Unsympathetic Patton, Coping mechanisms, Talk of Abuse. Be careful]

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Dear Patton,

When you look at the uncionus body of the boy you claim to love, do you feel guilty? Do you try to memorize the curves and dips in his body, try to count the exposed ribs on his chest? (Do you make a reminder to yourself to feed him tomorrow- or did you prefer the way he looked undernourished. All skinny and fragile like a baby bird.) Do you compare his paleness to moonlight? Do you trace the bruises on his skin that fit so perfectly to your fingertips- and wonder how you could ever hurt him?

Or are you too far gone for that.

Do you take pleasure in his obedience? Are you satisfied with your work? Go on Doctor, look upon your creation that you so tenderly broke and resurrected. Stitched together with syrupy words and empty promises. The acclimation of a lifetime of manipulation, the product of your pain.

I blame myself sometimes for not seeing through your lies, for excusing you. Was your plan so deep-set that even as a child you could not help but corrupt him? Or was this all some tragic mistake? The by-product of too many coincidences piling upon one another, until the house of cards fell down.

The latter seems more realistic, no matter how much I prefer the grandiosity of the former. I refuse to deluid myself anymore, not after what it cost me

Some days I cannot help but ask myself just where it all went wrong? Where the kind hearted boy who cried over wounded animals and emotional movies went? -The first person I ever confided to about myself, who hugged me and told me he was still my friend boy or girl- Just what happened that day your smile died?

We visited your mother yesterday, Ms. Diana and I, we had considered taking the twins- but thought better of it. -they hate you so much, remus talked about all the things he wishes he could do to you, I wish you could have heard it, would you even have cared? Ms. Diana had said how fragile she was, didn't want to risk their eccentrics upsetting her. -You know they never had any tack, especially in delicate situations.

Did you know that your Mother and you have the exact same eyes?

Were they always that way? Or did you push her too far, played a little to rough and couldn't understand why your toy broke under your strength. Did you learn from your mistakes and treated him gently? Or is virgil just another doll to amuse yourself and then throw away-

I wonder if you had gotten help earlier -if we noticed earlier- if all of this couldn't have been stopped. If we could have been a real team, if you could have stayed good.

-But where you ever good? I never bought into the whole dichotomy of Good vs Evil, but now I think I could understand it. If only slightly.

How could anyone who hurt him-us-me so badly be anything but evil? Roman sure seems to think so.

I will not grace your letter with excuses, your behavior is abominable and heinous, and I wish upon all the karmic vengeance that you will get your just desserts. But there will always be a you in my memories that will not be tainted by the present days bitterness. The soft-hearted child you were will always exist- if only in my mind. And when I think back on those days of yester-years, the boy you used to be, I can understand why Virgil would leave everything for him.

He is quite hard to stop loving.